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Christianity EtcRe: 2015 Statistics Regarding Religion Growth In Sub-saharan Africa by fedex01(op): 9:18am On Jan 12, 2016
Annunaki:
Olodo kontinu deluding your self, I will invite you to my thread on how muslims are converting to christianity and being persecuted in northern nigeria at the same time.
Hahaha retard, I can make threads too with bullsh!t sources and all.

I challenged you in my last post. Why don't you accept my challenge? cheesy There are individual conversions all the time everywhere (from Islam to Christianity, from Christianity to Islam, and so on). I am talking about MASS CONVERSIONS that change the demographic balance.
Christianity EtcRe: 2015 Statistics Regarding Religion Growth In Sub-saharan Africa by fedex01(op): 9:07am On Jan 12, 2016
Annunaki:
Olodo is that why the same report said that muslim population declined from 63% to about 48%huh And for the record islam is not maintaining itself in the north, muslims are converting enmass their to christianity every day. tongue
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Dumbf*ck, you YET AGAIN embraced yourself? cheesy Wow, it must be super hard for you to keep getting embarrassed by me.

Idiot, Muslim population declined as a percentage and not in solid numbers. There are more Muslims today as compared than previously in Nigeria..but there percentage went down because the Southern animalists converted to Christianity and reproduced.

In similar fashion, Europe used to be 25% of the world..but today it is 12%...What happened? Did Europeans became Africans? LOL..no, its just Europe grew--but Africans (and others) grew faster in terms of population growth. Same happened to Islam in Nigeria (as stated by PEW report). Animalists and traditionalists of Nigeria (which always outnumbered Muslims as per the report) became Christian and reproduced a lot--hence the percentage share of Muslims in Nigeria declined.

Please, can you quote me clearly one neutral report that talks about mass conversion of Muslims to Christianity in Nigeria? cheesy go ahead..do it. You can't cuz no report says that--because it didn't happen.

Challenge for you: Please produce material from PEW (or other credible neutral organization like it) that reflect mass conversions of Muslims to Christianity in Nigeria. Please do. Not some missionary Christian propaganda bullsh!t--but actual reports like I've been using as evidence throughout all my posts here in this thread and others as well!

I bet you can't do it cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: 2015 Statistics Regarding Religion Growth In Sub-saharan Africa by fedex01(op): 8:57am On Jan 12, 2016
JackBizzle:
It is growing at a rate at which it would not catch up with christianity in 40 years!!!
May be.

But it doesn't matter much. Islam has already defeated Christianity in terms of global influence and spread.

Islam has now become the largest practiced faith of the globe. Whereever Islam exists , it plays a central role in the society. Even secular Turks are very practicing Muslims generally. On the other hand , Christianity in the Europe, U.S, and Latin Americans is almost a dead religion...a humiliated, defeated relic of the past and nobody cares about it. No one really cares about it or its teachings and sex outside of marriage, hedonism, living together without marriage, revealing clothes/bikinis, not-going to church, greed etc is mainstream culture of these lands. It has been proven by scientific studies as well that Christianity is a dead, defeated thing in majority of the "christian" world.

Westerners are 'least practicing' people , according to the Gallop Survey on religiosity.

Even Adherents.com says that they have no reason to reject the assertion that there are more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians..

See the result of the comprehensive gallop survey on religiosity.


https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/jki5mzo1weomrxvyhpcsxa.png

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114211/alabamians-iranians-common.aspx

In the category of "most religious countries", almost all of them are Muslim nations lol...and in the category of 'least practicing nations', almost all of them are christian nations.

Almost enitre Islamic World is "most practicing" or "more practicing" , while almost entire West is "least practicing" or "less practicing" ..which means either agnostics or non-practicing cultural followers...


Also , even in the West , Muslims are way more practicing than Christians. There are way more 'practicing Muslims' by % than practicing Christians in most Western countries

For example , in countries like France which is the "largest" Catholic European nation , there are more practicing Muslims than Christians (Hudson institute who studies European religiousity)

http://www.realnewsreporter.com/?p=7...source=message

The most "ardent" christian country in West (U.S) is less religious than most "secular" Muslim country in Islamic World (Turkey)

http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-2-religious-beliefs-and-practices/

American Muslims are very practicing, too. See the above link..

Even in sub-saharan Africa, where the most zealot Christians reside, Muslims outpractice Christians according to Pew forum detail demographic and religious survey on ground.

Moreover, Islam is a ideological force having socio-economic, cultural, religious, legal, social, spiritual, and military components to it..Probably the most strongest ideological force to have ever existed...This also makes it way more successful, considering its global spread (It exists in literally every single nation on Earth)....

Remember, spreading just a religion (by changing it and adapting to local culture) is easy...Spread of an comprehensive ideological force such as Islam is hard...very hard..but Islam did it-successfully. Islam is only such ideological, cultural force in human history that is "global" and spread to every single corner to Earth...

Girls in Hijabs are a common sight in Western Universities now a days. It is visual evidence of presence of Islam...you can "feel" it...Can't say that for christianity though...

60% of all Muslim-American women wear hijab..and that's America which is a ultra secular country and where "christian" women don't even sh!t on bible and do everything without caring about christianity. Did you know majority of babies born to women in America are out born out-of-wedlock? christianity is a destroyed thing..

http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-2-religious-beliefs-and-practices/

So in the light of all these facts , it is clear to everyone in the world that Islam is the largest practicing and most influential religious force of mankind's history..and most likely will remain so since I don't see any new religion coming up to challenge the dominance of Islam

Constitutions and legal codes of tens and tens of nations--with billions of people in them--spanning across continents--are based in Islamic Shari'ah and legal codes. There are so many powerful Islamic states. Name me few "Christian" nations please? LOL, you can't name one. Everybody threw christianity out of their society and countries are based on godless non-christian laws where homosexuality is legal, sex before marriage is legal, there is no christian values in education system and so on. On the other hand, Islam plays central role in cultures, traditions, and lifestyles of Muslims and massive global Islamic World.

Speaking on the basis of facts, christianity is a joke compared to Islam today. All facts--no bias. Even YOU know that what I'm saying is right smiley I have provided you with evidence from credible and neutral sources to prove my point. You can't deny that
Christianity EtcRe: 2015 Statistics Regarding Religion Growth In Sub-saharan Africa by fedex01(op): 8:45am On Jan 12, 2016
Annunaki:
It is your same pew research centre that is known for their FACTS that said christian population in Nigeria has grown from 21.4% in 1953 to 49.3% in 2010. And you can be rest assured that most of this growth came from muslims converting to christianity. tongue
LOL, wrong. The very same PEW report (that you haven't read since you don't read but just copy-paste statistics from wikipedia without understanding them) said that Christian grew on behalf of traditional Nigerian African religions, while Islam maintained itself in the North (which, even to this day, is true). Majority of Christian converts were animalists and other traditional African traditions---not Islam. Atleast read the report that you use before making a living joke out of yourself again and again! lmao.
Christianity EtcRe: 2015 Statistics Regarding Religion Growth In Sub-saharan Africa by fedex01(op): 5:44am On Jan 12, 2016
Most credible statistical analysis by the best independent demographic organization of the United States (and the world) reveals that Islam is the fastest growing religious force not only in the world, but it is also the fastest growing religious force in sub-Saharan Africa as well (Mashallah!).

Moreover, the data reveals that the notions of mass Muslims conversions to Christianity or mass Christian conversions to Islam are myths and non-existent. The conversions account for only 0.3% of the total religious growth in the region (including both Christianity and Islam). So that puts to rest the idiotic myths of pastors and imams about conversions.

Very detailed and authentic report by PEW once again! Kudos to such a brilliant organization for doing its job better than everybody in the world. PEW is known as the "Fact Tank" in the United States. Hopefully we have such good organizations in Nigeria as well.
Christianity Etc2015 Statistics Regarding Religion Growth In Sub-saharan Africa by fedex01(op): 5:30am On Jan 12, 2016
[size=16pt]Sub-Saharan Africa[/size]

The total population in sub-Saharan Africa is expected to grow at a faster pace than in any other region in the decades ahead, more than doubling from 823 million in 2010 to 1.9 billion in 2050. As a result, the two dominant religions in the region – Christianity and Islam – both are expected to have more than twice as many adherents in 2050 as in 2010.71

Christians are projected to remain the region’s largest religious group, growing from 517 million in 2010 to more than 1.1 billion in 2050. But the Muslim population is expected to grow at a faster rate than the Christian population (170% vs. 115%), rising from 248 million to 670 million. Most of the smaller religious groups in sub-Saharan Africa, including adherents of folk religions and the religiously unaffiliated, are expected to experience at least modest growth in the decades ahead, although the small Jewish population is projected to shrink.

While the absolute number of Christians in sub-Saharan Africa is expected to double in size by 2050, the Christian share of the region’s population is expected to decline, dropping from 63% in 2010 to 59% in 2050. Meanwhile, the Muslim share is projected to increase from 30% to 35%.

Size and Projected Growth of Major Religious Groups in Sub-Saharan Africa, 2010-2050


https://www.pewforum.org/files/2015/04/163.png

Factors Driving Change

Fertility

Total Fertility Rates of Religious Groups in Sub-Saharan Africa, 2010-2015The Total Fertility Rates for the two fastest-growing religious groups in sub-Saharan Africa – Muslims and adherents of folk religions – are higher than the rates for Christians and the unaffiliated. However, fertility rates for all major religious groups in sub-Saharan Africa are considerably higher than the replacement level of 2.1 children per woman.

https://www.pewforum.org/files/2015/04/164a.png

Age Structure

Age Breakdown of Religious Groups in Sub-Saharan Africa, 2010

https://www.pewforum.org/files/2015/04/164b.png

The groups projected to experience rapid growth in sub-Saharan Africa in the decades ahead had very young populations in 2010. Nearly half of the region’s Muslims (46%) were under age 15, as were 44% of those adhering to folk religions, 41% of Christians and 40% of the unaffiliated.

The median ages of these groups ranged from 17 (for Muslims) to 20 (for the unaffiliated). The median age for the region overall was 18.

Religious Switching

Projected Religious Composition of Sub-Saharan Africa in 2050, with or without religious switching is expected to change the religious landscape of sub-Saharan Africa in future decades only modestly. (For information on the impact of religious switching on the demographic projections in this report, see Chapter 1.) The Muslim share of sub-Saharan Africa’s 2050 population is expected to be 0.3 percentage points higher than it would be if projected religious switching were not taken into account. By contrast, the projection for the Christian share of the region in 2050 is 0.3 percentage points lower than if religious switching were not included in the projections.
Migration

In the decades ahead, more migrants are expected to move out of sub-Saharan Africa than move into the region. This outbound migration is not expected to have a large impact on the overall religious composition of the region. Consequently, the report does not show different projection scenarios with and without migration for this region.

Complete report by PEW center
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/sub-saharan-africa/

Note: PEW center is the world's most well respected demographic center which publishes reports on population growth, political views of people, and American society. PEW is based in the United States where it was ranked number 1 in terms of accuracy, standards, and credibility in 2014 and 2015
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 5:20am On Jan 12, 2016
Stick to the topic, which is Nigerian religious landscape.

And uptil now, all the neutral and credible evidence and data suggests that Islam in the largest religion of Nigeria and it is growing much faster than Christianity due to fertility differences between the North and the South. Lets focus on that everyone
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience At A Church Today Almost Made Me Cry by fedex01: 4:34pm On Jan 10, 2016
Christianity is a fake religion exploiting poor Africans. It came to Africa through European white colonization.

We should go towards our own traditional religion which was Islam.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 4:32pm On Jan 10, 2016
Annunaki:
Kontinu I know the quoran permits you lie to further the cause of islam, to further expose your lies I will be starting a new thread on how islam spread through jihad and forced conversions. tongue
I am not Paul who'll lie to spread his cause. Lying is permitted in Christianity by Paul but not in Islam.

When you can't answer my valid arguments, you resort to insults and name-calling. Typical sign of a person with inferior intelligence qualities.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 3:22pm On Jan 10, 2016
Annunaki:
Dunce, you are bragging about what you should be ashamed about. All those countries you listed, the conversions were forced through jihad and is indeed very shameful. On the contrary, christianity spread through evangelisation and missionary workers and people freely converted based on the conviction of the gospel. In nigeria here the exploits of uthman danfodio is still very fresh and well documented, I don't need to remind you that your cowardly ancestors converted to islam to save their necks. What a shame. embarassed
LOL, wrong. In most of these countries, people weren't forced to convert. They converted on their own because they were living under oppressive christian colonization of Rome--and Muslims gave them freedom to choose.

However, Christianity always converts through mass genocide, enslavement, and colonialism--just like in Africa and Americas.

Tell me one African (other than Ethopia) or American nation that became christian on its own without European colonization first? Nigeria became Christian due to colonization and enslavement. Don't kid yourself. If there were no European colonialism, Nigerians wouldn't be following the illogical religion of Christianity believing in the confusing and false doctrine of trinity.

Indonesia, the largest Muslim country, became Muslim without even one Muslim soldier setting foot in it. Islam has been way more peaceful than Christianity over the years. That's a fact. Blind slaves of European white masters like you can't argue with facts.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 2:11am On Jan 10, 2016
OFFICIAL336:
Islam converts through terrorism, just like the first raid against Meccans.
And christianity converts through mass genocide, enslavement, and colonialism--just like in Africa and Americas. smiley

See, how easy it is? Tell me one African (other than Ethopia) or American nation that became christian on its own without European colonization first?

Indonesia, the largest Muslim country, became Muslim without even one Muslim soldier setting foot in it. Islam has been way more peaceful than Christianity over the years. That's a fact. Blind slaves of European white masters can't argue with facts.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 11:44pm On Jan 09, 2016
Annunaki:
Who quoted 6million daily huh Abi it's your depression that is giving you nightmares? tongue
lol, six million number is a myth that has been debunked by even Christian missionary organizations in Africa and worldwide.

Throughout history, many more Christians have been converted to Islam than vice versa.

Egypt, Palestine, Anatolia, Turkey, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco, Bosnia, Kosovo, East Thrace, and Syria were Christian areas with MILLIONS of followers. Today, all of these countries are Muslim (Mashallah!) and Christianity barely exist here wink cheesy

That's hundred of millions of people that would have been Christian but now are Muslims and on right path! Mashallah.

Annunaki, you can keep crying about myths while real world keeps marching on. And we just keep laughing at misguided Christians like yourself. Poor soul.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 5:02pm On Jan 09, 2016
Annunaki:
How they come up with their false conclusions that we have more muslims in Nigeria when all the population dynamics says otherwise really befuddles me undecided yet to include religion in census data, they won't gree.
Wrong.

All population data indicators point towards Islamic majority in Nigeria (as I have shown in the very first post of the thread on last page).

And including religion in census would be controversial because we know how South grossly exaggerates in numbers by millions (for example Lagos state authorities lied about their numbers and got caught).

The largest survey in recent history, Demographic and Health survey of 2013, also reveals Muslims to be 51.7% of Nigerian population.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 4:58pm On Jan 09, 2016
Amberon:
shocked shocked shocked huh

that's a blatant lie. exaggeration at its peak.
Exactly my point.

The federal census found Lagos population to be 9 million in 2006. However, the state authorities of Lagos conducted their own census in 2006 and said the actual population was 18 million in 2006 lol. Lying idiots were proven wrong via satellite pictures and scientific analysis by French experts.

That's why I opened this thread.
Christianity EtcRe: Nigeria, Nigeria.. When Shall Thou Wake Up From Thy Slumber?? by fedex01: 12:16am On Jan 09, 2016
Nigeria needs to get rid of colonizers' religion (Christianity) and all the western exploitation that comes with it! (Christian missionaries spreading westernization, exploiting resources of Afrikas and so on). Nigeria should have its traditional religion which is Islam--and it should become a great Muslim country with rules and laws--which will be a light to rest of Muslim World and hence Nigeria will become a GLOBAL player.

Currently, Nigerians can sing on the tunes of white-men's religion..nothing will change.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op):
Amberon:
the 2006 federal census figure of Lagos was 9m.
The 2013 internal Lagos state census figure was 21million... do you understand that now??

7 years was enough for any population to grow immensely. mind you that 2006 census was a scam. it put Rivers state population at 5m which is a big lie because the enumerators left out entire estetes and communities.
Ok but I was talking about how Lagos authorities put their population at 18 million in 2006! (which was a lie, offcourse).

That's my main point..

And what do you think about this?

https://www.nairaland.com/2835282/largest-religion-nigeria-islam-christianity#41537860
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 8:34pm On Jan 05, 2016
Amberon:
are you kidding Me??

Before attacking people, you should do well yo get your facts right. The 2006 census put Lagos state population was 9million, not 20m. in 2006 Lagos state conducted another census in Lagos state alone which brought the population to 21m.
That's exactly my point.

So the federal census revealed Lagos state population to be around 9 million while Lagos state did their own survey and put the number around 18. So which one is the correct figure?

The answer is 9 million. From independent research and satellite data--it shows that Lagos has a population of 9 million.

So where am I wrong?
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 3:16am On Jan 04, 2016
Annunaki:
Because the tout is trying to promote the islamic agenda.
No, its you who has Christian agenda and hence you can't debate with logic and evidence but resort to throwing insults and perpetuating evangelist lies and propaganda.

Please, let serious members have serious discussion and you play with your dolls.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 3:14am On Jan 04, 2016
Kdamilola:
And if I may ask, why is this thread created in the religion section?
Because the census 2016 is coming and the controversy regarding including ethnic and religious background in the census questions will rise again.

Lets be honest..if the Christian South will act as cheats and liers...and will inflate their numbers by MILLIONS just in one state (as demonstrated in Lagos)--then how come we can trust the census numbers...especially in regards to ethnic/tribal and religious adherence figures?

I am not here to promote any agenda (as the child-like poster blabbered above). I am just here to highlight basic problems with the whole census process and how its a nation-wide problem (North and South both do it. However, in South's example, the inflation is SO large that it will give a complete false picture--if implemented)
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 7:16am On Jan 03, 2016
CoolUsername:
Please, stop insulting 17 year olds.
LOL.
PoliticsRe: 9million! Scientific Research Proves 2006 Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 7:14am On Jan 03, 2016
Bump.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 6:53pm On Jan 02, 2016
Annunaki:
I didn't punch holes in your spurious claims yet I traumatised you enough to make you start another thread to state your case after you had been beaten blue and black in the previous threadhuh You call yourself a qualified researcher yet you can't do simple arithmetic calculations undecided your parents honestly need to ask for a refund for all the money wasted in sending you to school.
Lol, only one traumatized is you---hence you are acting as an insecure teenager girl throwing tantrums.

Everybody in that thread acknowledged that you were being an idiot and gave no evidence to counter my claims. While I have been consistently giving sources, neutral links, and credible data to support my claims. You were the one who believed Lagos population to be 18 million--so I debunked you there (you ran away and didn't respond, remember? lol)---and now I have opened this thread to dispel the myth of 18million Lagos.

Satellite images and biometric data analysis reveals that Lagos population was near 10m in 2006 and not 20 million, as poor cheats stated it to be.

How embarrassing! LOL..
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 6:49pm On Jan 02, 2016
Annunaki:
Let me just quote you here before you edit this post since you are not educated enough to calculate the difference btw 9 million and 2.8 million.
LOL, dumbass---these is a difference between Kano city and Kano state. You are such an idiot that I consistently have to explain things to you.

2.8m is the number for Kano city..while 9 million is the number for Kano state. Now you get it, child?
Politics9million! Scientific Research Proves 2006 Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 5:41pm On Jan 02, 2016
Can any numbers be believed? Experts Africa Check spoke with believe the best way to arrive at reasonable estimates is to cross-reference official figures with more scientific independent studies.

For example, research carried out by Africapolis – the African arm of e-Geopolis, a global study of urban populations, which is supported by the Agence Française de Développement – provided population estimates for settlements of over 10,000 people in West Africa.

The study used a combination of satellite imagery, geographic information systems, and the largest collection of documentation on the region ever collated to come up with its figures. It is “easily the best and most detailed source” on regional urban population, according to Dr Potts.

The organisation believes that 2006 census numbers for Lagos of around 9 million were reasonable and that the state’s own estimates are overblown.

Population growth in the city appears to have been slowed in the 1980s by an IMF-inspired structural adjustment programme, with rising unemployment and higher costs of living driving many back to their cheaper towns and villages, and this has affected the figures, it says.

However the group also found the 2006 census figure for Kano city, at 2.8 million, was inflated, suggesting officials had found about half a million more people than Africapolis estimated in 2010


https://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-nigerias-population-figures/


So there you go lol. Lagos and state authorities lying to the public and making up stories. There is misreporting everywhere in Nigeria--but the scope is small. For example, in the North--Kano City figure was inflated by 500,000 people...which is nothing compared to the inflation of a 9 MILLION people by Lagos.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 5:15pm On Jan 02, 2016
Annunaki:
I know you started this thread because I discredited your useless claims about religion population dynamics in Nigeria. I will surely be here again to punch holes in your foolish claims. tongue even going by the unreliable source you qouted, Kano inflated it's population by 6.2 million and not the 500,000 you fraudulently wrote and this still buttresses my point that the northern/muslim population is grossly exaggerated in this country.
LOL, you didn't provide even one counter to my arguments. Everybody in that thread acknowledged that. You aren't qualified enough to even have a debate. I am qualified researcher....and you?

Everybody should check out for themselves. There you go, I have posted the thread link where you supposedly "punched holes" in my claims (although you did not even counter one...yes, one..point of mine with any evidence.)

https://www.nairaland.com/2835282/largest-religion-nigeria-islam-christianity#41537860

And Kano inflated their numbers by 500,000 as stated by the article (Kano city has population of 2.8 million according to 2006 census). Where are you getting 6.2 million number? Can you even read? I bet not because even last time you were not able to comprehend the DHS survey data and I had to spoon feed and explain it you what it meant.

Your statistical literacy is very lacking and your education level doesn't seem quite impressive going by the errors you make in your English syntax.

How old are you? 17?
Christianity EtcScientific Research Proves Federal Census For Lagos To Be Correct by fedex01(op): 4:21pm On Jan 02, 2016
Can any numbers be believed? Experts Africa Check spoke with believe the best way to arrive at reasonable estimates is to cross-reference official figures with more scientific independent studies.

For example, research carried out by Africapolis – the African arm of e-Geopolis, a global study of urban populations, which is supported by the Agence Française de Développement – provided population estimates for settlements of over 10,000 people in West Africa.

The study used a combination of satellite imagery, geographic information systems, and the largest collection of documentation on the region ever collated to come up with its figures. It is “easily the best and most detailed source” on regional urban population, according to Dr Potts.

The organisation believes that 2006 census numbers for Lagos of around 9 million were reasonable and that the state’s own estimates are overblown.

Population growth in the city appears to have been slowed in the 1980s by an IMF-inspired structural adjustment programme, with rising unemployment and higher costs of living driving many back to their cheaper towns and villages, and this has affected the figures, it says.

However the group also found the 2006 census figure for Kano city, at 2.8 million, was inflated, suggesting officials had found about half a million more people than Africapolis estimated in 2010


https://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-nigerias-population-figures/


So there you go lol. Lagos and state authorities lying to the public and making up stories. There is misreporting everywhere in Nigeria--but the scope is small. For example, in the North--Kano City figure was inflated by 500,000 people...which is nothing compared to the inflation of a 9 MILLION people by Lagos.

Shame, shame.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 6:24pm On Jan 01, 2016
Annunaki:
The DHS survey was not done using the same methodology as the census as a survey involves only a small portion of the population and the census involves counting every single member of the population. And that is apart from the fact that the 2006 census was heavily rigged in favour of the north thus can't be deemed reliable.
I know the difference...but statistically, when you take a sample of tens of thousands that is nationally representative and is conducted via same methodology as census (using same data regions etc)---then the chances of deviation are almost negligible. For example, it doesn't matter if we count EVERY household or just conduct a massive survey---we both know that Hausa people in the North are overwhelmingly Muslim.

Anyways, no census has ever been undisputed in Nigeria's history so I see your point regarding 2006. However, independent research via scientific methods done by Afrocheck with the help of French development authorities reveal that the population of Lagos is indeed 9/10 million and the number 20 million is vastly exaggerated.

In any case, even in the BEST case scenario for you, the Muslim-Christian population in Nigeria are almost equally divided.

Also, can you please share the sources regarding mortality rates in North and South?
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 4:38pm On Jan 01, 2016
analice107:
I was going straight to this point.
This point has already been debunked.

The DHS survey of 2013/14 was conducted by National population commission using the SAME methodology as 2006 census...which means that we already have the census results regarding religion in Nigeria.

And it puts Islam to be the majority faith in the country.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 4:35pm On Jan 01, 2016
Annunaki:
But it's quite glaring to the whole world that our population census has always been rigged in favour of the north. For instance in the last census Kano's population was put at 9.3million whilst Lagos population was put at 9 million but an independent census that was carried out simultaneously by Lagos state govt put Lagos state's population at 18 million which is far more reasonable than the 9 million the federal govt claimed. The north has always been notorious for inflating their population since independence to gain resource sharing and political advantage over the south. Though it's true their birth rate is much higher than the south so also their mortality rate is much higher as such they don't have any real population advantage over the south.
What the hell? That is a big difference! 9-10 million vs 20 million shocked shocked

Didn't Nigerian media questioned Federal and state authorities about this deviation?

And Northern population increase per year is still higher than Southern population increase, despite the differences in mortality rates.

For example, mortality rates are higher in Nigeria than say in Pakistan---but that doesn't change the fact that Nigerian population growth is higher than Pakistan's.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op):
Annunaki:
I checked it again though your claim is right but the statistics is flawed. The sample population was heavily drawn from the North West were they are predominantly muslims. Such a flawed data gathering process cannot possibly reflect the true religious demographics in Nigeria. tongue
Sample was drawn on the basis of national population distribution smiley

The page no. 35 on PDF of DHS survey states "The sample for the 2013 NDHS was nationally representative and covered the entire population residing in non-institutional dwelling units in the country. The survey used as a sampling frame the list of enumeration areas (EAs) prepared for the 2006 Population Census of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, provided by the National Population Commission."

So not only Demographic and Health Survey chose a sample based on national representation--the survey used the same method and data gathering process as used in the national census of Nigeria by National Population Commission.

It means that this survey IS the national census done as recently as two years ago (its just doesn't cover ALL aspects of census but some aspects, including religion).

Now what? smiley The evidence just keeps on mounting that Nigeria is a Muslim majority country (or going towards that path).

Moreover, the North has an average fertility rate of 6.7 while South has 4.6

You only confirmed what I've already stated by saying "data is drawn from North" (which it isn't btw). According to all the evidence, Islam is the largest religion of Nigeria--if not now, then in the future since Northern population is rising faster than Southern parts. So not only Islam is already the largest religion in Nigeria (as proven by the most credible sources such as DHS conducted by same agency as census)---it is also increasing faster because Muslim women in Nigeria are having more kids than Christian women.

Also, I am an independent researcher. Can you please provide me with some credible sources regarding tens of millions of Nigerians converting to Christianity from Islam? I'd love to look at them.
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 9:55am On Jan 01, 2016
gimakon:
grin No I don't read when I post, because I'm mad na grin

Oga, u don't have anything to say. Go away with your lie of a religion, or let me put it this way, if you claim everything is fables, then islam as the fastest growing religion is fables too.

The ISIS problems your islamic problems caused and are causing is more than. Enough to ruin islam as the fastest growing religion.

Proof 1...
Why you keep insulting Islam when I didn't even talk about it once? I just opened a thread about demographics.

Moreover, it were European Christians who r@ped Africa, enslaved it, and forced christianity on peoples. Stop with your high horse. Atleast I don't follow the religion of colonizers.

Moreover, if you truly are a believer of God..then you must study Islam with open mind and understand it with Muslims. Only then you can differentiate falsehood from truth brother. Think about it
Christianity EtcRe: The Largest Religion In Nigeria? Islam Or Christianity? Detailed Analysis by fedex01(op): 9:50am On Jan 01, 2016
Annunaki:
The report on the link you provided ends at page 20. It doesn't get to page 60.
lol, bro, I am talking about the link I provided in my first post.

Actually, let me just give the link to you once more...

https://dhsprogram.com/pubs/pdf/FR293/FR293.pdf

This is the complete nation-wide Demographic and Health Survey report implemented by the Nigerian Population Commission (same institute that conducts census).

Go to the page 60 (of PDF) and see it for yourself smiley

51.7% of Nigerian population is Muslim according to this survey conducted just two years ago (and conducted by the highest, most credible authority on demographics in Nigeria. Same authority that conducts census which you so speak off).

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