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Politics / Re: What The Niger Delta Want From The Nigeria State by foxe(m): 9:07am On Nov 01, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
The South-South or "Niger Delta" is the region that is rich in mineral and human resources. It is the most misunderstood region that has experienced the worst form of marginalisation within the Nigeria State and suffered environmental pollution. It consists of over 40 ethnic groups which include; Bini, Efik, Urhobo, Ogoni, Ijaw etc within the six states that makes up the region (Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom and Cross river states).

Who Should Speak For The Niger-Delta
I want to state that no single ethnic group within or outside the region has the authority to speak on behalf of the entire region. However, people of the region have co-existed for centuries, some ethnic groups even trace their ancestry to common 'ancestor'. As a proud Nigerian from the Niger Delta extraction, I considered it wise to bring to the fore the demands of ethnic nationalities with respect to their respective declarations and bill of rights.

WHAT NIGER-DELTANS WANT:
1. Autonomy/Resource Control:

This is the Demand-in-Chief of all ethnic nationalities in the region within the Nigeria state. Ogoni nation in paragraph 20 of Ogoni Bill of Right(1991) demand for control of resources within Ogoni land. Similarly, paragraphs 3 of Urhobo Declaration(1998), 10 of Ijaw/Kaiama Declaration (1998), 4 of Ikwere Rescue Charter(1999), 5 of Oron Bill of Right (1999) and 53 of Itsekiri Memorandum(2012) all call for Regional Autonomy and control of resources that lies within their respective lands, while paying an agreed percentage to the Federal/Central Government.

2. Abolishment of Land Use Act(1978) and Other Laws:
All ethnic nationalities within the Niger-Delta were unanimous in their demand for the abolishment of Petroleum Act of 1969 and 1991, the National Waterways Decree of 1977, the Land Use Act of 1978 and 1993, and Supreme Court ruling of April 5, 2002. This demand is found in the declarations/bill of rights of each ethnic groups.

3. Cooperation Among Ethnic Nations:
Ethnic nations within the Niger-Delta are peaceful and law abiding people. Despite difference in tribes and tongues, the pledge for peaceful cohabitation with other groups within and outside the region is one that is held so dear. A look at the declaration/bill of rights by all ethnic groups will give a picture that all nationalities are in solidarity and pledges to work with each other. Ikwerre people expressed solidarity with "all oppressed peoples in Nigeria in their just struggle for justice and equity." Similarly, Urhobo call for "full cooperation not conflict among nationalities". Ijaws in their declaration offer a hand of friendship and comradeship to the Itsekiri, Ilaje, Urhobo, Isoko, Edo, Ibibio, Ogoni, Ekpeye, Ikwerre etc. They also affirm commitment to joint struggle with the other ethnic nationalities in the Niger delta area for self-determination and expressed "solidarity with all peoples, organisations and ethnic nationalities in Nigeria and elsewhere who are struggling for self-determination and justice"

4. Niger-Deltans Not In Conflict:
Make no mistake, ethnic nations within Niger-Delta are not in conflict. Ethnic nationalities within the Niger Delta have realised that the present structure in Nigeria and the multi-national companies are responsible for setting ethnic nations against each other. In Warri for instance, the Ijaws, Urhobos and Itsekiri have lived together since the 15th century without rancour or war. But in 1997, Abacha relocated the Hq of Warri South-West LG from Ogbe-Ijaw(in Ijaw area) to Ogidigben (Itsekiri area). This singular action precipitated riots and then ethnic war between the two groups. In a situation of fiscal federalism/autonomy, such wouldn't have even been. The People Are Wise! On September 29 2014, the Ijaw Youth Council and Ikwerre Youth Council vowed to work together because the two ethnic groups have "common destiny". They realised the scheme of oil firms to exploit their lands while setting them against each other. www.thetidenewsonline.com/2014/09/29/ijaw-ikwerre-youth-unite-against-oil-firms/

All through the Midwest/Bendel/Benin Empire, the ethnic nations never went to war against each other. Today, God in His divine Wisdom has brought these people of the SIX states together. The unity and bond is stronge than ever.

5. Niger-Delta Is Not Hating On Anybody:
In the declarations of the various ethnic nationalities within the Niger-Delta, no mention of hate against any group was made. The oppressor is the Nigeria system and multinational companies and NOT the tribe of office holders. Hence, the call for the convocation of Soveriegn National Conference. This position I believe is shared by other groups as testified in the respective declarations. Niger-Deltans may be dissatisfied with the present structure of Nigeria(like everyone else) but they DON'T hate Nigeria. They only want it restructured for the good of all.

6. Niger Delta "Is" A Majority Group:
By the grace of God, the unity of the Niger-Delta has made the people a collective majority group in Nigeria despite the minority status/population of the respective ethnic nations that make up the region. The people of Niger-Delta are equal in unity whether Efik, Ika, Itsekiri, Ibibio, Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Bini, Esan, Ogoni, Ijaw etc. Despite the unity, they recognise and respect respective ethnic distinctiveness. The resolve to see to the actualisation of the noble demands within the Nigeria State is unshakable. By the Grace of God, the demand for restructuring shall come to fruition for the benefit of all Niger-Deltans and the Nigeria State.



May God Bless Niger-Delta
May God Bless Nigeria

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Politics / Re: Rejection Of 2014 Confab Report: Thumbs Up For Northern Leaders by foxe(m): 5:40pm On Oct 29, 2015
dearpreye...the only sensible ijaw in nairaland, I sight you...good evening
Politics / Re: Rejection Of 2014 Confab Report: Thumbs Up For Northern Leaders by foxe(m): 5:38pm On Oct 29, 2015
we are still one Nigeria
Politics / Re: Frederick Lugard, 'Iguocha', And Historical References by foxe(m): 8:08pm On Oct 27, 2015
following
Politics / Re: Tonyebarcanista Ndoki Is Not And Will Never Be An Ijaw Land by foxe(m): 7:03pm On Oct 26, 2015
barcanista..you have lost relevance in nairaland

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Politics / Re: The Alphabet Of Assassination by foxe(m): 3:38pm On Oct 16, 2015
nice article... pls continue
Politics / Beyond Chief Olu Falae's Kidnap By Femi Falana by foxe(m): 10:12pm On Oct 12, 2015
In October 2010, a traditional ruler and a
college provost were abducted in Ekiti
state by a gang of kidnappers. While the
bandits were taking the victims to a hideout
in Delta state, a fatal accident occurred at
Kabba in Kogi State. Both victims were
killed while the kidnappers were seriously
injured. The criminal elements were
promptly arrested by the police and charged
to court by the Kogi state ministry of justice.
Although the trial court ordered that the
kidnap suspects be remanded in prison
custody, they escaped last year during a
violent attack on the Lokoja prison by
unknown gunmen.


Shortly after that, the wife of the Speaker of
Osun state was abducted in Osogbo. She
was later found by a vigilante group in Ogun
state.

In Lagos, the chairperson of Ejigbo
local government was
abducted. He was released upon the
payment of a ransom of N15m. Since then
several persons have been kidnapped and
released upon payment of ransom
negotiated by their family members.


Notwithstanding such incidents of
kidnapping the south-west zone was
considered relatively safe. But the crisis of
insecurity of life and property in the region
became exacerbated after the 2015 general
elections following the retrenchment of
hundreds of armed political thugs and the
escape of a number of prisoners at the
prisons in Ado Ekiti, Akure and Sagamu in
the last couple of years.
The few kidnap
suspects who were arrested were not
charged to any court by the police while the
prison management did not declare any of
the prison escapees wanted.


No doubt, the kidnap of Chief Olu Falae, a
former secretary to the federal government
in his farm in the outskirt of Akure, Ondo
state last month added a new dimension to
the kidnap saga in the region. Embarrassed
by the development President Mohammadu
Buhari directed the Inspector-General of
Police, Mr. Solomon Arase to secure the
release of the Chief. Barely 24 hours later
Chief Falae regained his freedom after the
payment of ransom by his family.
Upon his
dramatic escape from captivity, Chief Falae
disclosed that his abductees spoke "good
English". Based on such disclosure it is
doubtful if the criminals who kidnapped
Chief Falae are Fulani nomads. However,
Chief Falae announced last week that his
farm had been invaded vi et armis and taken
over by a group of Fulani nomads. In a
classical display of impunity, the Nigeria
Police Force has failed to dislodge the
lawless group.


Instead of calling on the security agencies to
enforce the law by arresting and prosecuting
the group, some Yoruba leaders threatened
that the south-west region would secede
from Nigeria if Fulani nomads are not
banned from entering the region! It is
unfortunate that the senior citizens who
issued the threat did not address the legal
implications of their demand.

It ought to be
pointed out that every Nigerian has a
constitutional right not be expelled from any
part of the country. Leaders of the various
ethnic groups should be worried over the
involvement of educated young men and
women in the menace of kidnapping
throughout the country.
Chief Falae is likely
to be pained that the illegal occupation of
his farm by a criminal gang may degenerate
to civil disturbances between Yoruba
farmers and Fulani nomads.


More so, that Chief Falae was at the 2014
National Conference where it was
unanimously agreed by delegates that "In the
long term cattle routes and grazing reserves
be phased out to lay emphasis on ranching "
and that states which have large livestock
populations should "endeavor to maintain
grazing reserves."

It was further resolved
that "An integrated development and
livelihoods modernization program should be
designed and implemented to address the
issue of settling nomadic herdsmen into
settled communities based on established
cattle ranches with fodder development
technologies, and including abattoirs,
processors and other businesses along the
livestock value chain." The
recommendations have been ignored by the
Federal Government.


> It is on record that not less than 10,000
heads of cattle are consumed in the south-
west daily. The majority of the heads of
cattle are brought in malnourished having
been made to walk hundreds of kilometres
from the northern part of the country.
Instead of issuing threats the Yoruba leaders
ought to have mobilized the south-west
state governors to set up ranches and
abattoirs for the production and distribution
of meat in the region. For instance, through
a PPP arrangement a modern abattoir, the
largest in Africa, was built in Ibadan, Oyo
State in 2011.

But due to some inexplicable
reasons the state government has refused to
allow the abattoir to function. The Ekiti state
government once had a ranch. It was
established by the Adekunle Ajasin
government in the second republic. But it
has since collapsed due to lack of
maintenance. This is not the time to resort
to diversionary or escapist solutions to
man-made problems. The ruling class
should be compelled to address the
challenges of establishing livestock, grazing
reserves, ranching and modernization of
pastoralist or nomadic livelihood in line with
the aforesaid recommendations.


In conclusion, the police should move
speedily to dislodge the armed bandits who
have seized Chief Falae's farm. The Yoruba
leaders should consult with the south-west
state governors with a view to addressing
the increasing wave of insecurity of life and
property in the region. All prison escapees
should be declared wanted and fished out by
the police. Governments should embark on
the massive creation of jobs for the army of
unemployed youths. In addressing the crisis
of policing the country, state and local
governments should be allowed to set up
security outfits. Since northern governors
are worried over cattle rustling, their
southern colleagues should link up with
them with a view to having a holistic
approach to the establishment of grazing
zones, ranches and abattoirs. Unless these
measures are adopted, the country will
continue to witness insecurity of life and
property.
Femi Falana SAN.

source- http://saharareporters.com/2015/10/11/beyond-chief-olu-falaes-kidnap-femi-falana
Politics / Beyond Chief Olu Falae's Kidnap By Femi Falana by foxe(m): 10:04pm On Oct 12, 2015
In October 2010, a traditional ruler and a
college provost were abducted in Ekiti
state by a gang of kidnappers. While the
bandits were taking the victims to a hideout
in Delta state, a fatal accident occurred at
Kabba in Kogi State. Both victims were
killed while the kidnappers were seriously
injured. The criminal elements were
promptly arrested by the police and charged
to court by the Kogi state ministry of justice.
Although the trial court ordered that the
kidnap suspects be remanded in prison
custody, they escaped last year during a
violent attack on the Lokoja prison by
unknown gunmen.


Shortly after that, the wife of the Speaker of
Osun state was abducted in Osogbo. She
was later found by a vigilante group in Ogun
state.

In Lagos, the chairperson of Ejigbo
local government was
abducted. He was released upon the
payment of a ransom of N15m. Since then
several persons have been kidnapped and
released upon payment of ransom
negotiated by their family members.


Notwithstanding such incidents of
kidnapping the south-west zone was
considered relatively safe. But the crisis of
insecurity of life and property in the region
became exacerbated after the 2015 general
elections following the retrenchment of
hundreds of armed political thugs and the
escape of a number of prisoners at the
prisons in Ado Ekiti, Akure and Sagamu in
the last couple of years.
The few kidnap
suspects who were arrested were not
charged to any court by the police while the
prison management did not declare any of
the prison escapees wanted.


No doubt, the kidnap of Chief Olu Falae, a
former secretary to the federal government
in his farm in the outskirt of Akure, Ondo
state last month added a new dimension to
the kidnap saga in the region. Embarrassed
by the development President Mohammadu
Buhari directed the Inspector-General of
Police, Mr. Solomon Arase to secure the
release of the Chief. Barely 24 hours later
Chief Falae regained his freedom after the
payment of ransom by his family.
Upon his
dramatic escape from captivity, Chief Falae
disclosed that his abductees spoke "good
English". Based on such disclosure it is
doubtful if the criminals who kidnapped
Chief Falae are Fulani nomads. However,
Chief Falae announced last week that his
farm had been invaded vi et armis and taken
over by a group of Fulani nomads. In a
classical display of impunity, the Nigeria
Police Force has failed to dislodge the
lawless group.


Instead of calling on the security agencies to
enforce the law by arresting and prosecuting
the group, some Yoruba leaders threatened
that the south-west region would secede
from Nigeria if Fulani nomads are not
banned from entering the region! It is
unfortunate that the senior citizens who
issued the threat did not address the legal
implications of their demand.

It ought to be
pointed out that every Nigerian has a
constitutional right not be expelled from any
part of the country. Leaders of the various
ethnic groups should be worried over the
involvement of educated young men and
women in the menace of kidnapping
throughout the country.
Chief Falae is likely
to be pained that the illegal occupation of
his farm by a criminal gang may degenerate
to civil disturbances between Yoruba
farmers and Fulani nomads.


More so, that Chief Falae was at the 2014
National Conference where it was
unanimously agreed by delegates that "In the
long term cattle routes and grazing reserves
be phased out to lay emphasis on ranching "
and that states which have large livestock
populations should "endeavor to maintain
grazing reserves."

It was further resolved
that "An integrated development and
livelihoods modernization program should be
designed and implemented to address the
issue of settling nomadic herdsmen into
settled communities based on established
cattle ranches with fodder development
technologies, and including abattoirs,
processors and other businesses along the
livestock value chain." The
recommendations have been ignored by the
Federal Government.


> It is on record that not less than 10,000
heads of cattle are consumed in the south-
west daily. The majority of the heads of
cattle are brought in malnourished having
been made to walk hundreds of kilometres
from the northern part of the country.
Instead of issuing threats the Yoruba leaders
ought to have mobilized the south-west
state governors to set up ranches and
abattoirs for the production and distribution
of meat in the region. For instance, through
a PPP arrangement a modern abattoir, the
largest in Africa, was built in Ibadan, Oyo
State in 2011.

But due to some inexplicable
reasons the state government has refused to
allow the abattoir to function. The Ekiti state
government once had a ranch. It was
established by the Adekunle Ajasin
government in the second republic. But it
has since collapsed due to lack of
maintenance. This is not the time to resort
to diversionary or escapist solutions to
man-made problems. The ruling class
should be compelled to address the
challenges of establishing livestock, grazing
reserves, ranching and modernization of
pastoralist or nomadic livelihood in line with
the aforesaid recommendations.


In conclusion, the police should move
speedily to dislodge the armed bandits who
have seized Chief Falae's farm. The Yoruba
leaders should consult with the south-west
state governors with a view to addressing
the increasing wave of insecurity of life and
property in the region. All prison escapees
should be declared wanted and fished out by
the police. Governments should embark on
the massive creation of jobs for the army of
unemployed youths. In addressing the crisis
of policing the country, state and local
governments should be allowed to set up
security outfits. Since northern governors
are worried over cattle rustling, their
southern colleagues should link up with
them with a view to having a holistic
approach to the establishment of grazing
zones, ranches and abattoirs. Unless these
measures are adopted, the country will
continue to witness insecurity of life and
property.
Femi Falana SAN.

source- http://saharareporters.com/2015/10/11/beyond-chief-olu-falaes-kidnap-femi-falana
Politics / Re: The Acts Of King Bubu Son Of Hari Chapter 2: 1-32 (A Political Satire) by foxe(m): 6:32pm On Oct 06, 2015
nice writeup.. keep it up man
Politics / Re: Cohabitation Chart Of Different Religion Living Together by foxe(m): 8:54am On Oct 05, 2015
hahhaa..so u too dey observe

Muslims living with muslims ( War )
Christians living with muslims ( War )
Buddhist living with Muslims ( War )
Hindus living with Muslims ( War )
Pagans living with Muslims ( War )

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Politics / Re: Weep Not Ndigbo:- Vanguardngr by foxe(m): 6:39am On Oct 05, 2015
ayobabas:


OP, you are not a woman but a man, an asshole rabid dog pretending to be a woman! No woman or parent seeing the plight of those aggrieved parents can ever say that they were fake political tools. Did you think the girls were kept in one large compound for you to find or that PMB is a magician?

May God forgive this your inhumanity and perverted debauchery. Your tribal bigotry is unspeakable as is your morality. You are really an unrequited backside bug, rabid nyamiri dog!
Haba mallam. am not the one that wrote the article. you're so much filled with bile and hatred that you can't even read the article and the source.. awu gambia
Politics / Re: Weep Not Ndigbo:- Vanguardngr by foxe(m): 6:26am On Oct 05, 2015
Ymodulus:

. No one hate Igbos but the other way round. Igbos hate others and the thing about hate is that when no "other" is around Igbo extend the hatred to themselves. The mirage of Igbo unity exist only in paper like this.
Igbo hate others? man wakeup.. Igbo can be found all over the nook and crannies of these country... integrating and doing business with the locals. do you think its achievable when their is hatred?? forget about the activities of a few. Igbos are peace loving people. Shalom

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Politics / Re: Weep Not Ndigbo:- Vanguardngr by foxe(m): 6:17am On Oct 05, 2015
Kastonkastroll:


Peace loving indeed. With all the hate your tribesmen spread across board everyday, I really don't see any love or peace in them. There is absolutely nothing peaceful about iboes.
you can give us an example
Politics / Re: Weep Not Ndigbo:- Vanguardngr by foxe(m): 11:17pm On Oct 04, 2015
Kastonkastroll:
smh.. You are calling a group of people your enemies and at the same time you want those your perceived enemies to treat you like friends......
you're are wrong man... we are not begging anybody to treat us like friends... and for the records, Igbo are the most peace loving people in the whole of Africa

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Politics / Weep Not Ndigbo:- Vanguardngr by foxe(m): 10:38pm On Oct 04, 2015
You are not so blind with patriotism, that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it-—- Malcom X
I AM one of those , who never wished that APC, with President Muhammadu Buhari, PMB, would lead this country. It was not because we supported the ways of the ruling PDP at that time, but because we had our fears, about that change slogan, some of which are now manifesting in PMB’s government.
Our fears included first, that as Christians, the killings and burning of churches will continue under PMB, but will be seriously suppressed from the public. Today, we hear less of the wickedness against Christians in the north. We do not understand why this is so, while Boko Haram has continued to kill in the North East. Over three months of APC government, Chibok Girls are yet to be recovered, for example, confirming our fear that the whole noise about Chibok Girls was to push GEJ, out of power. Politics apart, we are all parents, and those parents, who chose to use the Chibok Girls as propaganda instruments should be hiding their heads in shame, because politics should be fair, and honest, with some integrity.
Our second fear was that PMB has been portrayed as a hater of the Igbos, and that he would not only push the South East to the back bench in his policies as President, but would also initiate actions to Islamise that zone that voted massively for the PDP. In Imo State, which is presently APC, their Governor was generally regarded as having betrayed the Igbo man. Today, that fear has proved genuine, as Governor Okorocha, is the one calling for calm among Ndigbo, in the wake of the appointment by PMB of his Kitchen Cabinet members, to the complete exclusion of the the South East. Governor Okorocha, and his colleagues in politics without identity, would have seen by now that they backed the wrong horse as Ndigbo. If out of 42 appointments of persons who would have close contact with PMB almost on daily basis, not one Igbo man qualified, in terms of merit and confidence by PMB, what else do they want the man to say? Is the message not clear ?
The best known method for Nigerian Leaders to kill any project is to subject it to what they call ‘a review’. The review of the second Niger bridge is to tell those who are honest to themselves that the project is dead under PMB, and no thanks to the Governor of Edo State, who may claim to be fighting corruption, but his attacks against that project has made him a manifest instrument in the hands of the enemies of Ndigbo. He may have his reasons for teaming up with Igbo haters, my only concern is for Ndigbo who have failed to read this hand writing on the wall. Our third fear was that PMB would islamise the South East.The first shot from him was the transfer of Boko Haram suspects from Maiduguri to Ekwulobia in Anambra State.In spite of the furore that followed that decision, we are yet to confirm what government has done to relocate those men. The matter seems to have died down, with the usual ignominy with which they treat issues that concern Ndigbo generally. The recent alert issued by the DSS and the Army about presence of Boko Haram agents in Lagos and the South East, leaves it up to the people to decide what to do to keep terror out of their regions, no matter what politicians say. Thirdly, we feared that PMB would kill the implementation of the Confab Report, simply because the South East among others has something to gain from it.
It ought to be obvious that the whole efforts to swing power back to the north were to prevent power from getting to Ndigbo, who rather than weep, should brace up boldly, work harder to put their houses in order, and ensure that come 2019, their earnest expectations shall not be cut off, not even by the common sense revolutionists in the South West.
Just like we say in Igbo land, the masquerade that blocks the road upon sighting me, will not shift grounds when he sees others too. Igbo haters will not change till their judgment by God comes upon them suddenly. Today, all we get are denials of electoral promises, ranging from the election campaign promise that the Price of Petrol would be reduced to N40/Litre if elected, the second Niger bridge for the South East, the provision of thousands of jobs for our teeming un employed youth within the first 100 days, to the promise of being the President for all Nigerians if elected. We are faced with the grim reality of petroleum subsidy removal, Naira exchange rates slides to all time low, while we wait for our mechanic to assemble his tools and men from the north, to come and repair the sick vehicle we call Nigerian economy.
They will need 100 days to assemble tools, 100 days to remove the tyres, 200 days to remove and repair the engine, 200 days to sort out the gear box, 100 days for the electrical and fuel supply system, 100 days to panel beat the vehicle, 100 days to spray it with a new paint, then 100 days to find a suitable northerner to test drive the refurbished vehicle. Ndigbo, this brings us to a total of 1000 days, and that is two years and seven months, thus, the game will continue till 2019, with nothing in it for you, except noise, propaganda, fear, intimidation, denials and hardship.
This type of change cannot favour Ndigbo, who must ignore it, no matter what is done or said, to provoke them. Let the changers face the terrorists, and don’t give them the pleasure to spill Igbo blood in the name of Biafra again. Even when their hirelings try to create social tension in your zone, just read between the lines and ignore them, because in this Nigeria, this phase shall pass away also, and Ndigbo shall prevail.
Mr Clement Udegbe, a legal practitioner, wrote from Lagos. source: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/09/weep-not-ndigbo

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Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 12:08pm On Oct 04, 2015
mahdino:


Jesus Christ was neither killed nor was he crucified, as alleged by the Christians and the Jews, but that he was alive! because:

1. Jesus was reluctant to die! He had worked out a strategy of defence to repel the Jews. Because he wanted to remain alive!

2. He beseeched God for help. With strong crying and tears for God Almighty to keep him alive!

3. God ‘heard’ his prayers which means that God accepted his prayers to keep him alive!

4. An angel of god came to strengthen him: In the hope and belief that God will save him alive!

5. Pilate finds Jesus not guilty! Good reason to keep Jesus alive!

6. Pilates wife shown a dream in which she was told that - ‘No harm should come to this just man.’ In other words that he should be saved alive!

7. Supposed to be on the cross for only three hours. According to the system in vogue, no man could die by crucifixion in so short a time which means that even if he was fastened to the cross - he was alive!

8. The other two - his ‘crossmates’ on their respective crosses were alive. So Jesus too, for the same period of time must be alive!

9. Encyclopedia biblica under article ‘cross’ - column 960 says: ‘When the spear was thrust - Jesus was alive!

10. ‘Forthwith’ came there out blood and water: ‘Forthwith’ means straightaway, immediately which was a sure sign that Jesus was alive!

11. Legs not broken - as a fulfilment of prophecy. ‘Legs’ can be of any use only if Jesus was alive!

12.Thunderstorm, earthquake, and darkening of the sun all within 3 hours! To disperse the sadistic mob to enable his ‘secret disciples’ to help, keep him alive!

13. Jews doubted his death: They suspected that he had escaped death on the cross - that he was alive!

14. Pilate ‘marvels’ to hear that Jesus was dead. He knew from experience that no man can die so soon by crucifixion. He suspected that Jesus was alive!

15. Big roomy chamber: Close at hand, and big and airy for willing hands to come to the rescue. Providence was out to keep Jesus alive!

16. Stone and ‘winding sheets’ had to be removed: Only necessary if Jesus was alive!

17. Report on winding sheets. German Scientists who carried out experiments on the ‘Shroud of Turin’ said that the heart of Jesus had not stopped functioning - that he was alive!

18. Ever in disguise! Disguise not necessary if Jesus was ‘resurrected’. Only necessary if he was alive!

19. Forbade Mary Magdalene to touch him ‘Touch me not’ for this reason that it would hurt; because he was alive!

20. ‘Not yet ascended unto my father’ In the language of the Jews, in the idiom of the Jews, he was saying, ‘I am not dead yet’, in other words, ‘I am alive!’

21. Mary Magdalene not afraid on recognising Jesus. Because she had seen signs of life before. She was looking for a Jesus who was alive!

22. Disciples petrified on seeing Jesus in the upper-room. All their knowledge about the ‘crucifixion’ was from hearsay, therefore, they could not believe that Jesus was alive!

23. Ate food again and again in his post ‘crucifixion’ appearances. Food only necessary if he was alive!

24. Never showed himself to his enemies. Because he had escaped death by the ‘skin of his teeth’. He was alive!

25. Took only short trips. Because he was not resurrected, not spiritualised, but alive!

26. Testimony of men around the tomb “Why seek ye the living among the dead?” (Luke 24:4-5) That he is not dead, but alive!

27. Testimony of angels “angels who had said that he was alive!” (Luke 24:23) Did not say, ‘resurrected’ but the actual word uttered by the angels was ‘Alive!’

28. Mary Magdalene testifies “they heard that he was alive, and had been seen by her, they believed not” (Mark 16-11).

Mary did not vouch for a spook, or ghost or spirit of Jesus but a Live Jesus. What they could not believe was that the Master was alive!

29. Dr. primrose testifies: That the ‘water and the blood’, when Jesus was lanced on the side, was on account of an upset in the nervous vessels because of the scourging by staves. Which was a sure sign that Jesus was alive!

[b]The 30th the last but not the least. You see we can keep arguing from years, so i advise we should leave all what everybody said or quote and let us stick to what the master said (Jesus himself)

In the book of John 38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 for as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
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He himself has said that the way Jonah has survived he not will not be killed by anything or anyone. It is either all of you have been mislead of he lied and we in the house of Islam believe that a prophet of God like Jesus has no reason to lie and the words of Jesus himself is more authoritative than the billions of Christian, so we stay on his side that he was not dead like Jonnah was dead for three days and three nights.
look at what you wrote' mine I give you with reference.. you still doubt. you should cap your argument with evidence...words are cheap..

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Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 10:52am On Oct 04, 2015
Annunaki:
The root cause orf islamic terrorism is deeply rooterd in the quoran and rthe zsahih hadiths which depicts the curzsed lirfe orf mohamed. Muslims have been deluded to believe that mohamed is "the best of man kind" and they are encouraged to live their lives the way mohamed lived his to be good muslims. Now the problem is that mohamed was a terrorist, murderer, high way robber, rapist, paedophile, philanderer amongst several other terrible things. A lot of terrorist feel justified in what they are doing cause it's clear to them that they are following the foot steps of mohamed as instructed to them in the quoran.

Bearing the above in mind I believe the best way to stop islamic terrorism is to continually expose the evils of Islam and also expose mohamed for the false prophet he is to discredit him. There should be a global campaign against Islam and muslims should be taught why mohamed is a fraud and encouraged to renounce islam. When strong doubts are established against the credibility of mohamed and islam which he invented, we will have fewer people willing to kill or be killed for the cause of Islam.
that is what am emphasising on
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 10:19am On Oct 04, 2015
If Jesus was supposedly never crucified, or never died, or was never buried, we have to ask: WHO WAS THE CRUCIFIED ONE? The Crucifixion and the "chain-of-custody" principle well help us identify.
I received a question about the Crucifixion of Jesus, asking to prove: (1) that anyone saw Jesus dead, and
(2) that anyone removed the dead body of Jesus from the cross, and
(3) that anyone put His dead body in a tomb. These three questions involve the "chain-of- custody" of Jesus and his body. They seem to be best broken down into the following five parts:
(A) Proof of Jesus being arrested, tortured, and hung on cross.
(B) Proof of Jesus remaining on the cross till death.
(C) Proof of the death of Jesus on the cross.
(D) Proof of the removal of the same dead body from the cross.
(E) Proof of the placement of that same dead body in a tomb. This study is from the documentation provided in the Bible by Matthew Levi, the son of Alphaeus, a servant of God and a companion and disciple of Jesus .
The Roman government , the Jewish rulers and the disciples of Jesus were confirming witnesses of these events. If the Jewish people were deceived into thinking that they had killed Jesus, that would have still made it necessary also to deceive the Roman government and the very followers of Jesus; even his mother and closest friends and disciples. All of these would have had to believe a complete falsehood.
(A) Proof of Jesus being arrested, tortured, and hung on the cross The "chain-of-custody" begins with the identification of Jesus by all twelve disciples (apostles) during the eating of the Last Supper at the Feast of Unleavened Bread on the night before the start of the full Passover commemoration. Afterwards, Judas left them (Mt 26:17-20).
Then the group proceeded under a full moon with plenty of moonlight (the 14th day of the lunar month of Nisan) (Exodus 12:18) from the place of the Last Supper going east across the Brook Kidron and to the Garden of Gethsemane at the Mount of Olives (Mt 26:30 & 36).
Judas Iscariot came and identified Jesus for the soldiers. Jesus also identified himself. Jesus healed the ear of the servant of the High Priest (Mt 26:47-56). Later Judas confirmed that he had betrayed an innocent man (Mt 27:3-cool. Also, the temple chief priests confirmed that the money given by them to Judas by them was "blood money" (Mt 27:6). Jesus went in the custody of the temple soldiers , to the house of Caiaphas. Many leaders were present including the whole great Sanhedrin (the 70 ruling men in the Council). Jesus confirmed that he is the Messiah and the Son of the God. Because of this statement of his, they said Jesus had committed blasphemy and was deserving of death (Mt 26:57-68).
Jesus was transferred into the Roman custody of Governor Pontius Pilate in the morning (Mt 27:1-2). The wife of Pilate stated that she had a dream in the previous night hours that Pilate should have nothing to do with that "righteous man" (Mt 27:19).
The Roman governor, Pilate, delivered Jesus into the custody of his own professional Roman soldiers (Mt 27:26). The Roman soldiers beat Jesus and put a crown of thorns on his head. This distinctively marked his body and the top of his head (Mt 27:27-30). These wounds, caused by the Roman soldiers, would help identify the body of Jesus all the way to the cross, on the cross, and in post-resurrection appearances.
Jesus remained in the custody of Roman soldiers and was taken to the place of crucifixion (Mt 27:31-33). Matthew, who was one of the twelve disciples, records that the Roman soldiers crucified Jesus, which means putting a live person on a cross (Mt 27:35).
(B) Proof of Jesus remaining on the cross till death Jesus remained on the cross under guard by the Roman centurion (Mt 27:54) and soldiers . Some sat down to watch him die (Mt 27:36-37). While hanging on the cross he was identified by:
1. The Roman centurion (officer over about 100 men) (Mt 27:54).
2. The Roman soldiers watching and who knew the wounds he had previously suffered (Mt 27:35-36).
3. The passersby who had heard him preach (Mt 27:39-40).
4. The chief priests (Mt 27:41).
5. The scribes (Mt 27:41).
6. The elders (Mt 27:41).
7. The two robbers who were also being executed (Mt 27:44).
8. The many women who had seen Jesus before (Mt 27:55-56).
9. John, His disciple (John 19:26)
10. Mary, his mother (John 19:26).
(C) Proof of the death of Jesus on the cross Matthew, a disciple, records that Jesus gave up his spirit, died (Mt 27:50). The Roman centurion (Mt 27:54) who was in charge of keeping guard over Jesus, refers to Jesus' life in the past tense after Jesus had died (Mt 27:54). The dead body of Jesus was later ordered by the Roman governor to be given to Joseph of Arimathea who wrapped it in a clean linen cloth and who laid the body of Jesus in his own tomb (Mt 27:59-60). The chief priests and Pharisees confirmed to the Roman governor that Jesus was dead (Mt 27:63-64). Also the chief priests and Pharisees confirmed to the Roman governor that Jesus' body was actually in a grave (Mt 27:64). Pilate, the Roman governor appointed a guard for the grave of Jesus’ dead body (Mt 27:65-66). An angel of the Lord from Heaven confirmed that Jesus had been crucified, and had been dead (Mt 28:2-7). The women to whom this message was given told it to Matthew and the other disciples (Mt 28:7-10).
(D) Proof of the removal of the same dead body of Jesus from the cross The Roman soldiers had custody of the dead body of Jesus (Mt 27:54).
Notice that not just anyone could remove the dead body Jesus, the executed prisoner, from the custody of the Romans. Permission had to be obtained from the proper authority who had ordered the execution. In this case, it was the Roman governor, Pilate (Mt 27:58). A wealthy Jewish man, Joseph of Arimathea,
who was a disciple and who would recognize Jesus, asked the Roman governor, Pilate, that he, Joseph, be allowed to take custody the dead body of Jesus for the purpose of burial (Mt 27:57-58). More than 700 years before the time of Jesus, the holy Prophet Isaiah, son of Amoz, wrote about this death and the burial in the grave of a rich man (Isaiah 53:9). At the time of Jesus, the holy Prophet John, the Baptizer, son of the Priest Zacharias, told that Jesus was the sacrificial "Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." (John 1:29 and Isaiah 53).
Pilate gave the order that the dead body of Jesus be given to Joseph (Mt 27:58). Joseph of Arimathea took away the dead body of Jesus which had been ordered to be given to him by the governor, Pilate, and which was identified to him as such by the soldiers who guarded the body and also from his own identification of Jesus, because he was a disciple of Jesus (Mt 27:57 & 59). The chief priests, elders and the soldiers confirmed that the body in the tomb was that of Jesus. It was the same dead body of Jesus that the governor, Pilate, had ordered the soldiers to guard (Mt 28:11-15).
(E) Proof of the placement of that same dead body of Jesus in a tomb Pilate gave the order that the body be given to Joseph (Mt 27:58). There is no evidence that any other body was given to Joseph. Joseph took custody of Jesus’ dead body which had been ordered to be given to him by the governor Pilate and which was identified to him as such by the soldiers who guarded the dead body and which Joseph must have been able to identify himself, because he was a disciple of Jesus (Mt 27:59).
Joseph kept custody of the body of Jesus and wrapped the body of Jesus in a clean linen cloth for burial (Mt 27:59). Joseph laid the wrapped dead body of Jesus in his own new tomb (Mt 27:60). Mary Magdalene and the other Mary who had been at the crucifixion came to that very grave (Mt 27:56 and 28:1).
An angel of the Lord from Heaven confirmed that Jesus had been dead and buried at that very grave. The angel said, "Do not be afraid; for I know that you are looking for Jesus who has been crucified. He is not here, for He has risen, just as He said. Come, see the place where He was laying. And go quickly and tell His disciples that He has risen from the dead ..." (Mt 28:5-7)
The body of Jesus was wounded and marked by the beating and the crown of thorns before the crucifixion and it was further marked by the wounds in the hands, the feet and the side while on the cross. Identifiable marks in his hands and side, made by the Roman soldiers, were still visible on Jesus’ body after his resurrection. He appeared to the apostles "... to whom He also presented Himself alive, after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, being seen by them during forty days, and speaking of the things concerning the Kingdom of God." (Acts 1:3) The details of the miracles, teachings and prophecies made by Jesus are recorded in the Injil, the first four historical Gospels ("Good News" section) of the New Testament of the Holy Bible which are advisable to be diligently studied for great spiritual benefit.
Thus, it becomes clear that the "chain-of- custody" principle affirms the historical fact of Jesus’ crucifixion. Of course, what is most important in all of this is why it was necessary that Jesus the Messiah be crucified. A study of the Scriptures of the Prophets (the Bible) clearly reveals that the Messiah’s death and resurrection was, from the beginning, the center-piece of God’s plan of salvation. Listen to what Jesus told His disciples on the day He arose from the grave ... "Then [Jesus] said to them, ‘These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.’ And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures. Then He said to them, ‘Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And you are witnesses of these things!’" (Luke 24:44-48)

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Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 10:19am On Oct 04, 2015
the religion of peace exposed
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 10:17am On Oct 04, 2015
typing
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 9:28am On Oct 04, 2015
mahdino:


How can Christianity be founded on a lose foundation? = There is nothing like crucifixion

[][/b]I wellcome all of u to this page with the greetings of the prophets Assalamu Alaikum (may peace and blessing of Allah (God) be upon all of u.
Before I start talking on the topic i will like u to quess in world history who said the following

"for those my enemies who do not want me to rule over them bring them here and kill them". It will take a genius for one to get the ans especially among the christian faith. If I list three names prophet Moses(as), Carl Max or Muhammad(saw). It will suprise u to tell u that Jesus christ utter those words because u hardly read your bible with free mind and reasoning,. Jesus said it in the new testament, the gospel according to matthew. Do u remember when he was riding on a donkey to Jerusalem.

Going into the topic crucifixion is to hang a man to death on a cross. But what if u hang a man on the cross and he didn't die? I want u to know that it is the Romans that started the believe in a son of their god that die for their sins, they worship the sun god. And its important for us to know that before Jesus christ their use to be salvation through the prophets of God of that time e.g at the time of Moses his people wanted to worship the golden calf, he has to call them to the right way in other words he was the way the truth and the live no one could reach God but through him, at the time of David he was the way, at the time of Abraham he was the way now this is the time of Mohammad as said by Jesus in the gospel of John 16:12-14
Jesus told his diciples that he will be betrayed but never did he say he will be kill, so when the Jews were looking for him to kill, he went to the garden with his diciples and told them wait at the gate, he went further and fall on his face and prayed to God to take away the cup from him, meaning to save him from death and an angel came to asure him that god has answer his prayers. Yes in Hebrew chapter 7 God answered his prayers. Why do we take all that is said without pondering?

Be ready to take the straight point.
In the book of matthew 12:38-40 Jesus prophesied that he will not be killed. When the Jews came to ask for a sign, they wanted him to walk on water, raise the dead,or perform a miracle but he put all his eggs in one basket. He said I will only give u a miracle like that of Jonah as Jonah was alive for three days and three nights so shall me be. Today over 2 billion christians of the world said that Jesus was dead for three days and even if it is a trillion population of christian said he was dead, the words of Jesus is more superior and more to believe than the billions of christians.
The Quran said that "they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it was made to appear to them so, but those who dispute about the matter are ful of doubts, for certainly they killed him not."

For salvation follow the master Jesus not Paul, Jesus said in matt. 5:17-20 going to heaven is only possible when u keep the laws and the commandements, when u keep the laws and the commandements u can't help but to be a muslim. Thank you
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you're wrong man... and I will prove that to you
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 9:22am On Oct 04, 2015
mahdino:


Mecca in the Bible


The holy Ka'bah built by prophet Abraham (pbuh) and his son Ishmeal (pbuh) is in Mecca
The name Mecca (Makkah) is mentioned in the Holy Quran in chapter 48:24. Another name for Mekka is Bakka, depending on the dialect of the tribe: this is also mentioed once in Surah 3:96 "Verily, the first house (of worship) appointed for mankind was that in Bakka (Mecca), full of blessing, and guidance for all people."
Amazingly enough, this word Bakka is mentioned by the prophet david (pbuh) in the Bible: "who passing through the valley of BACA make it a well, the rain also filleth the pools." Psalm 84:6. The well here is the well-known well of Zam-Zam, still present now, close to the Ka'bah; after thousands of years.
do you proof ? i mean evidence.words are cheap man
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 9:19am On Oct 04, 2015
solodox:

there's plenty of ways to exterminate vermin!
you're a are right
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 9:06am On Oct 04, 2015
solodox:


Trust Me Son, Your Prophet Didnt Have Me To Contend With... When i want some dead, it dies and stays so. ETERNALY.
are you for sure?
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 8:41pm On Oct 03, 2015
Duru1:
@OP

Who are “We” in the “how do we stop Islam”?
law abiding citizens... lovers of freedom and any person that wishes Nigeria and the world At large well

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Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 8:36pm On Oct 03, 2015
MightySparrow:


What we follow awareness? Islam could not. overcome Yorubaland by conquest the is reason the practice. is moderate, EUROPE. was librated from the. SULTAN. of. TURKEY. only by. war when maxim gun was invented. TAKE it or leave it the only lasting solution to win the battle. of ideology is to crush the spirit behind it. No army can be as committed to a cause than someone who believe he fighting a battle for eternal rewards.
I concur with you

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Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 7:39pm On Oct 03, 2015
MightySparrow:
Islam has only one solution which we. all love. to shy away from : WAR. WAR is inevitable. for ISLAMIC. excesses.
war cannot stop Islamic terrorism... awareness will help much...the experiment of the Arab spring is a good example
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 10:57am On Oct 03, 2015
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition that the number of people killed in a singles year by islam is more than all the people killed in the 350 years of Spanish Inquisition
Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 10:56am On Oct 03, 2015
alaoeri:

This your spamming won't change anything, those that are knowledgeable more than you have tried several ways with no result to show for it, you know nothing abt the relationship of arab countries & how their crisis started, try harder.
perhaps, you should school Me on that..that Islam has killed more people in a single year than all the 350 years of Spanish Inquisition.. the religion of peace indeed

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Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 10:37am On Oct 03, 2015

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Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 10:29am On Oct 03, 2015
solodox:


Yeah i know, one of the biggest since the 1991 or something disaster. Buh i'd have us remember that most, if not all of the people that died are regular folks like you and i with families that are hurting and no ties whatsoever to any terror group!
the stampede were blamed on black Africans... I pity those those poor folks sha....stupid Arab wannabe

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Religion / Re: How Do We Stop Islam ? by foxe(m): 9:34am On Oct 03, 2015
solodox:


My heavenly father Jehova God has no hand in the misfortune or evils of this world He did not strike anybody anywhere biko!
4000 people dead...no be small matter

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