Adehorze:


Bring it I'll buy all we use wese90 as escrow

stubbornman:


How long will it take??

stubbornman:
Hello house .

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Please someone should help urgently.

Thank you.

Kobojunkie:
This makes sense now..this is the same dude , awitness41 who that tried and failed to back up his claim that Jesus Christ taught His followers to obey the 10 commandments.

1. First of all there are 613 , not 10 comandments/rules in the Old Covenant Law of Moses and that Law was given by Almighty God to those who are descended from the Blood of Jacob and this for living in the Kingdom of Canaan. What you call the 10 commandments are only the first 10 that we given and since God's Law is not in pieces, attempting to live by only the 10 commandments is no different from living fully naked in sin. You either adopt all 613 commandments, as written of in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, or you forget God entirely and live free-willy!

2. God intentionally excluded all those of the gentile nations from that agreement and this detail is repeated over and over across the books of the Old Covenant Law of Moses. It is repeated in Deuteronomy 30 vs15 - 20 where the Old Covenant Law is ratified as a Covenant that is between God and those descendants of Israel, as Law in the Land of Canaan.

3. Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law of God, the embodiment of the Law that applies in the Kingdom of God, never asked any of His followers to live according to the Old Covenant Law of Moses, as that would have been in direct violation of God's Law and His own teachings and commandments.

Instead Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God, offers you an lighter yoke and a easier burden than that given by God to His People of Old, stating that those who obey Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments, the Law and Truth of God in the Kingdom of God.

Kobojunkie:
Again..... If your mind is unwilling to understand that which I have repeated to you several times today, maybe you should move on and accept this is not for you to comprehend.

Kobojunkie:
How does this statement...
compare to this statement below..

Kobojunkie:
Which one of the points, 1 through 4, does not make sense?

God exists outside of your Bible.... He is not bound inside of or by the book. In fact, the very first book that God led me too when I began questioning Himo, only some years ago, was not a Bible but a history book.

I don't think Jesus Christ isn't manipulated because my Trust is not in a book but in God and His ability to ensure His Word remains True no matter what - His Word is eternally True.

I dont study any Bible, God choose what to direct me to and I learn from whatever He leads me to so my knowledge is not limited to your Bible. Even the so-called apocryphal texts are not out of the question.

Kobojunkie:
Again..... If your mind is unwilling to understand that which I have repeated to you several times today, maybe you should move on and accept this is not for you to comprehend.

Kobojunkie:
From your response it remains clear that you are still having a ridiculously hard time wrapping your mind around the Truth of God being the Word of God, the very Words that come out of the Mouth of God.

Jesus Christ sent out His disciples but He never asked anyone to put their trust in and obey the disciples, instead He commands all to instead trust in Him and obey Him and only Him, Jesus Christ, the one and only Truth and Word of God.

Kobojunkie:
Like I already told you, the Bible is not the Word of God. If you can't wrap your mind around what that means, then you probably should not talk to me....I don't like to repeat myself even in this.

What you claim is written in Romans contradicts the statement made by Jesus Christ in the Law of the Kingdom of God and so obviously you have to pick one answer as both cannot be true. That is what the question is there to help you admit to and also help you realize where your trust really lies.

Unfortunately, you only revealed that you are willing to wallow longer in denial mode....and that is a choice you make allon your own.

Kobojunkie:
1. First of all there are 613 , not 10 comandments/rules in the Old Covenant Law of Moses and that Law was given by Almighty God to those who are descended from the Blood of Jacob and this for living in the Kingdom of Canaan. What you call the 10 commandments are only the first 10 that we given and since God's Law is not in pieces, attempting to live by only the 10 commandments is no different from living fully naked in sin. You either adopt all 613 commandments, as written of in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, or you forget God entirely and live free-willy!

2. God intentionally excluded all those of the gentile nations from that agreement and this detail is repeated over and over across the books of the Old Covenant Law of Moses. It is repeated in Deuteronomy 30 vs15 - 20 where the Old Covenant Law is ratified as a Covenant that is between God and those descendants of Israel, as Law in the Land of Canaan.

3. Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law of God, the embodiment of the Law that applies in the Kingdom of God, never asked any of His followers to live according to the Old Covenant Law of Moses, as that would have been in direct violation of God's Law and His own teachings and commandments.

Instead Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God, offers you an lighter yoke and a easier burden than that given by God to His People of Old, stating that those who obey Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments, the Law and Truth of God in the Kingdom of God.

Kobojunkie:
What part of my statement there in bold implies I dont read from the book of Romans? Is human language comprehension on off setting for you or something?

Kobojunkie:
So what part of "My Trust is instead in God and not in a book" keeps going over your head there?

This is nothing genius level for a one to experience a hard time wrapping his mind around it now.

Kobojunkie:
Why do I need to read the book of Romans when God's own Law , Jesus Christ, absolutely states that everyone who believes in Him will not die but have eternal life?

God's Law being absolute implies you can not add or remove from it in any way as no man has the authority to change that which God has declared. So, what exactly am I to do with whatever it is that is written in Romans? Overrule God's own law?

Kobojunkie:
Should I have asked him to quote from the Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas instead?

Kobojunkie:
You will keep surprising yourself until you finally realize you were not as intelligent as you thought yourself to be where my understanding of God and the things of God is concerned.

Kobojunkie:
God gave them the first 10 there,does not mean the rest dont apply. There are total of 613 commandments God gave them as part of the Covenant which He then ratified in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20, just before they entered into the land of Canaan where the Law was to go into full effect.

Kobojunkie:
In the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that is not of this world, there is only one Ruler/Leader/Authority over each and everyone who belongs to God, and that one is not a human being.

Read what is written to you from over 2000 years ago.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, the very same God!

Kobojunkie:
Where in the Gospels did Jesus Christ tell you that any of that is of importance to Him?

Kobojunkie:
Ok

Kobojunkie:
i am afraid your response makes absolutely no sense to me considering what I asked.... how much simpler can I make this for you..
So Again... .

God's Law, Jesus Christ, declares that the answer to question X is always equal to A, but Paul says instead that Q is the answer to X, and we know A is not equal to Q.

So is what do you believe and trust as the answer to question X and tell us why?

Hope this is easier in getting a direct answer from you now

Kobojunkie:
Here's a simple question for you.

If Jesus Christ said A, and Paul instead said Q, is the answer A or Q?

Kobojunkie:
1. My not subscribing to the same ideas you have of the book called the Bible in no way derailed my thoughts as far as this conversation. If I have to make reference to that which I learned from reading history books, I will too.

2. Stop trying to deduce me and my thoughts in this. Rather, focus on the arguing whatever point you are trying to make in this entire conversation and maybe by that you get even closer to learning how to approach the Word of God than thinking Bible first.

3. That book you call your Holy book contains the words of demons, witches, Satan evil men, as well as the Word of God Himself. That you are able to convince yourself that all that is Holy is you and only you. Nowhere is it written by God Almighty that the book is holy and nowhere does God tell you that even the words of Satan as written in that book are His Words, so I think you need instead wake up to the fact that your belief in the holiness of the book is a personal choice you made against all the evidence.


4. Another thing! When Jesus Christ declared that those who love Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments, He meant the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God - Matthew, Mark, Luke and John - and not the Old Covenant Law of Moses defined in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

Kobojunkie:
1. God is a God of Laws/Covenants - Noahic Covenant, Abrahamic Covenant, Mosaic Covenant(Old Covenant Law of Moses) etc.

2. Now, God's Laws are also absolute in the sense that when you adopt one, you let go of every other Law in order to do that. For instance, the Old Covenant contains a law that you are not to add or remove commandments or from it. So any attempts to practice both the Old and the New Covenants Covenants same time is a sin.

In similar manner, the New Covenant declares that you are not to add or remove to or from the Law, even by way of teachings and doctrines of men, as that is sin against God.

3. Jesus Christ is one of God's many Laws. He is the embodiment of God's New Covenant/agreement promised by God through His prophets, from even the time of Abraham, with which to save Israel and to bless the nations of the world with.

The teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ define for us what sin is in the Kingdom of God and is Law we are meant to live by. So, if Jesus Christ declares it sin, then it is indeed sin. If not, then it's not.

However, the Mosaic Covenant, the Old Covenant Law of Moses,is instead a Law given by God only to those who are descendants of Jacob for living in the land of Canaan. So those of gentile descent are excluded from practicing that Covenant, from the very beginning, by God Himself - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 -20.

So it isn't the case that I am picky but instead that I understand the different Laws God has in place and the contract to which God has called me to living by.

Now your question about Jesus Christ living in fulfillment of the Old Covenant is a valid one but there is so much to that that delving here will only derail this conversation, so let's leave that Interesting topic for another thread please.