₦airaland Forum

Nothing like forgiveness. If any crime was committed then someone must pay for it. Justice for the dead would be nice.

Many of these people here are only participating for the bread and won't be voting for Tinumbu.....I mean how can sane and decent young people prefer a sterile old man to healthy young men? It's ridiculous.

seppuku:
isn't Lebo that lady that died in a car accident back then. I remember her?

Correct. She's the one.

seppuku:
You see Irongalaxy. I am not the only one that can see through your BS.

Here is another witness telling you about your behavior for the past almost 20 years.

My brother, he can only deceive the ignorant and the gullible. I knew the late Lebo Mathosa and Kelly Khumalo personally. Kelly was resident in Voslorus then.... I was in Rosetinville, specifically Mabel Street, the night Lucky Dube was murdered. The guy needs to be calming down.

IronGalaxy:
Because you're lying.. it's that simple, and here are your lies so far..

1. "80% of South Africans (basically a whole country) are "lazy" and entitled"


2. "Coloreds are murderous"


3."South African men are not hardworking, only their women are"


4."South Africans believe ALL Nigerians are drug dealers:


5. "South African men don't talk much, they just talk through their firearms "



6 " White and Indians, are the ones found in our universities" not blacks"


7." Black South African men are entitled, only prefer handouts"

You can't spew these lies and expect not to be called out

You seem to thrive in focusing on little details. Maybe a rephrasal will soothe your frayed nerves.

1) Many South Africans are lazy and entitled.
2) Coloureds are very violent people...maybe the gangs in the Cape flats will support the submission.
3) South African women are more hardworking than the men.
4) Many South Africans believe most Nigerians are drug dealers.
5) Many South African men are trigger happy. Bouyed by private gun ownership. Taxi violence attests to this.
6)There are more whites and Indians in SA universities than blacks, taking cognizance of the populations of the races.
7) Many black South Africans are entitled and prefer handouts also bouyed by BEE
then.

I hope this is now a fair representation of facts in South Africa.

IronGalaxy:
We dont want what we dont want in our country, its our constitutional right, focus on what you dont want in your country, its that simple.

The world is a global village. You can't leech on other countries in your times of need and then turn around and say you don't want foreigners because of those lame excuses. If you do not want illegal immigrants then that's fine, but why harrass and abuse documented foreigners? I was in SA in 2008 when a Mozambican guy was burnt to death in Ramaphosa near Reiger Park for being a foreigner....... Your xenophobia is not a recent affliction but you'd scream lies are usual.

Jennyclay:
Well, what is good for the goose, is also good for the gander

I can’t deal with a cheating man

Then the gander will go back to her father's house.

Whatever it takes Israel must not be compromised. Arabic and Islamic elements must not be given a chance....the United States is waking up late, the UK is gone almost like France.

seppuku:
Be careful with irongalaxy. He has one up his sleeves no matter how much the facts stares him in the face.

I can see. His default mode is to scream "lies"!

IronGalaxy:
We dont want illegal immigrants, we dont want Nigerian drug dealers and scammers, we dont want Mozambican hawkers, We dont want copper thieves from Zimbabwe, Zama Zamas from Lesotho, We dont want illegal Pakistani who create their own products and sellimg them to our people in our country etc..

Our country, our rules, if this is "scapegoating" so be it.

Your arrogance is well noted but the truth is you can rant and march all you want but as long as there is a market for drugs the gap must be filled. And there will always be black foreigners in SA whether zama zama, hawkers or drug dealers. There's absolutely nothing you and the likes of Jacinta can do about it. The worst criminals in South African prisons are South Africans.

IronGalaxy:
Nobody terms all Nigerians drug dealers ...thats another lie..

Another lie? I give up on you. That's all you guys talk about in SA. Mention Nigerian and it's drugs.The only truth is what you spew? Get off your sanctimonious high horse and be honest for once.

Alliswell248:
reserve your wailing till january 18th, when Presdent BAT is declared winner.

Some of you are funny. So what if Tinumbu is declared winner? Is he your father? Will you get an appointment where you can steal money? If Tinumbu is declared winner we move. All of us will suffer it.

Judiciary that is deep in Wike's pocket.

IronGalaxy:
You're conveniently ignoring other points ive raised to focus on the crime issue

Yes, theres crime in SA, which whether you agree of not, is also exacerbated by illegal immigrants

The notion, that "South African men dont talk much, they only talk though firearms" is misleading and a lie since an overwhelming majority of SA men, aren't criminals or own firearms.. own up to this misrepresentation

Well, if it's actually convenient for "all" Nigerians in SA to be termed "drug dealers" for obvious reasons it is not out place to also emphasize on the gun violence in SA in those terms. Admittedly, SA men are not all criminals, far from that. But the point is that guns talk a lot in Mzamsi which should be worrisome to anyone and everyone.

seppuku:
Dem BEE boyz were on it back then. Brand new BMW, Benz, VW's swishing pass you non stop.

Eish, take me back!

I recall the Zuma incident but hey that was when they wanted a populist president. They were tired of the uppity pipe smoking Xhosa Mbeki.

Exactly......Zuma then earned a shower to his head in cartoons and caricature.

seppuku:
I would say best times were between 2005 and 2015. A lot my friends in academia and in the medical field left after that period especially to Canada. They complained bitterly at how they were made to work for extensive periods of time in public hospitals and were underpaid, plus the environment started becoming very unfriendly to them as well.

I was there between 2003 and 2010. It was a very exciting period in SA when Zuma was president, allegedly raping a late friend's daughter who was HIV positive and taking a shower thereafter.

IronGalaxy:
and I certainly dont expect to be impressed by a Nigerian when he talks about my country, I expect the same scornfull rhetoric you're spewing..

You can't go to a country then claim 80% of the country is just "lazy" and "entitled" , how is that even possible or realistic?

"Coloreds are just murderous"'

"South African men dont talk much, they just talk though their firearms"

SA men are not hardworking, only their women are"

These are just the usual malicious Nigerians talking points that are even paddled by Nigerians who've never even set the feet in SA.. and you have a cheerleader here, calling these facts.

The narrative you are bleating about is a well known narrative in SA. You know about violent crime in SA. And I'm not talking about blacks only. The unproven serial killings of over 10 women in Kempton Park, Springs, Tembisa, etc recently, the killings in Reiger Park, the killings are only comparable to the massacres in parts of northern Nigeria by bandits and terrorists......but some of these are almost daily occurrences in SA. Jokes aside, SA needs redemption from gun violence whi h is encouraged by private ownership of firearms.

seppuku:
Eish!. You missed out. That was a good year in SA.. That was the year people really discovered South Africa so much so that many people refused to go back home.

I missed big time.....but I had discovered SA long before then. Beautiful country.

seppuku:
Before or after the World cup?

The night life was fire back then. I remember going to this club called Moloko in Pretoria. Nyash full everywhere I wan fall.

April. Before the world cup.

IronGalaxy:
Yes, we love drinking, the Irish and the Russians do too, dont try painting this as some vice.. South Africans are liberal and carefree and we're not going to be apologetic about that

Lol, you're just making South Africans caricatures at this point, "the men dont talk too much, they just shoot" how realistic is that when an overwhelming majority of SA men aren't even criminals or own guns?

The women are supposedly more hardworking than men, and yet South African women have worse employment figures than the men

The only truth thing on this write up is that we love our music, and our women and country are beautiful, the rest is utter bs, exactly narratives I expect from a Nigerian

I'm not writing to impress you or anyone else. I'm not also trying to denigrate South Africans. Violent crime is SA, especially gun violence is off the roof. Everything of course is relative. South Africans are no saints just like Nigerians aren't, don't make it seem like everything I say about SAns are vices, nope. I was robbed at knife and gun points at different times in Boksburg. I was even followed from OR Tambo to my place then at Brentwood Park and robbed...guess what...I have never been robbed in my life besides those times. Make no mistake about it, I love SA and it's people. Doesn't mean I won't say things as I perceive them.

seppuku:
You know the country well. Couldn't have described the place any better myself.

I lived mostly in the cape but also Johannesburg, Pretoria and Mpumalanga.

I quite liked the colored from the cape, crazy but very family oriented people.

Most sundays they would bring their kids to the seapoint area and just lounge and have a good time and were easy to talk to as well.

Yeah.....South Africans know how to enjoy themselves...braai, drinks, music, dancing, family stuff! I miss the winter in Johannesburg and my night trips to locations like Tsakane, Kwa Thema, Katlehong, Voslorus and of course parts of Soweto. Left SA in 2010, by the way.

Those voting NO in the poll are APC supporters. The very same people are the reason we are where we are today.

You won't hear Nigeria in such conversations. Tinumbu would rather spend billions on solar. Most of the money will end up in Chougry's accounts via Gbajabiamila.

seppuku:
Be careful there my friend,Irongalaxy doesn't believe that we can live in his country and then leave back to hours.

It is heaven there so as soon as we land we don't go.

He's very wrong. I obviously don't come across as the average Naija person he probably meets in SA. I lived the life big time there and left on my own. He's completely fallible and should know it. Weekends are special in SA. Nigerians don't drink......come to SA and see what drinking is. From the locations otherwise known as townships to the informal settlements also known as Shacks. They love their music, their booze and of course the women. Some of the most beautiful, and above all, willing women in the world are SA women. By the way , the country is beautiful beyond words. Travelling in SA is usually a huge pleasure. However, their men are not as hardworking as the women, They don't talk too much, their firearm does the talking for them. Then don't mess around with coloured guys....those ones will murder anything that moves before the drop of a hat.

Most people were paid to be there. O be honest, I don't know how many people in Rivers will come out and vote for Tinumbu and his APC.

Collect their money and vote whoever you want to vote. Wike and his cronies want to continue cashing while others continue to depend on them.

Let there be a paradigm shift so another set of people can cash out. Wike cannot continue to pocket Rivers State.

IronGalaxy:
South Africa is 80%+ black, its an effectively a black country, most university graduates are black.. dont know what's hard to wrap around your head here... you're just in denial for obvious reasons

What obvious reasons? I lived there for years. I know the people and what's up with them, so what are you on about. The 80% black is as good as nothing. Lazy and entitled bunch.

I lived in the East Rand, Johannesburg. Spent holidays in Newcastle, Pine Town and Durban. Have driven to Maputo over forty times through Nelspruit, Mpumalanga. I know them...real good.

IronGalaxy:
Can we normalize saying things which are factual and verifiable? reasoning with jealousy and bitterness aint gona cut it.. and hiding behind the white excuse when you're left in the dust also aint gonna cut it

Maybe the population of the different groups should be put into consideration. That way the real context will be clear.

Compare it to, say Ghana, using the same population index.

Parachoko:
Lagos Calabar Coastal Highway

Really? And money saved from subsidy removal has been used for?

I don't know how much your stipend is but defending rubbish makes you ridiculous.

Parachoko:
If the money will be spent on infrastructure, power, transportation, healthcare, education, agriculture, water supply, security etc, there's nothing wrong with taken the loans

Tinumbu has borrowed so much money this past few years......point to one thing he has done with the money.... meanwhile fuel subsidy has been removed....you are clearly one of the supporters of evil in this country.

Lithiumite:
Obidients will tell you this isn't Nigeria, that there is nothing good about Nigeria,.....Nigeria is worst than south sudan........only obi will make Nigeria dubai......never seen such multitude of slowpokes all my life.

I'm from Imo state and resident in Owerri. Try and be more ambitious in your life. Don't settle for less when you can get a lot more. You can actually commend Hope for the little he's done but don't bring Nigeria as a whole into the picture.

Shame nor dey catch you? Tufiakwa. Go to ordinary Benin Republic then come back here and talk rubbish. Nigeria is a disgrace to itself. Both successive governments and the citizens have all contributed their quota in messing it up. This is not about Obi, Atiku or anyone else........Nigeria is simply a shithole country. Celebrate it if you like.

IronGalaxy:
Yes, the same people "dividing their time between sangomas are still more literate than you ".. have the highest number of middle-class households, drive highest number of car sales on the continent and enjoy some of the highest living standards on the continent..

Reality doesn't go by your jealousy

Black South Africans are not more literate than Nigerians even with ratios compared. Whites and Indians are the ones you usually find in their universities. Unless you consider those with diplomas which makes it significantly higher. Blacks, especially the men, are usually okay with their entitlement mentality.......they prefer handouts.

Those beneficiaries will do anything to perpetuate Tinumbu in power even if he is on a wheelchair. That's why we are where we are. So much corruption and wasteful spending.

A government with accountability won't be doing this in the name of rewarding party members.