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EfemenaXY:
It's never wise to make judgments based purely on assumptions.

FACT: Not having a visa doesn't constrain a person (or better still, a non-EU migrant) from seeking and gaining employment in the UK.
http://www.visabureau.com/uk/employer-sponsorship.aspx

ASSUMPTION: We don't know the intricacies (fine details) of this case. There's been a lot of history between the two parties concerned and they only know exactly what went on between them. You only know what you were told by them. You wouldn't know the fine details, and neither would / does anyone else here do. So any judgments made would be based on he said / she said. Unless of course you've got trained investigators, forensic scientists, et al working with you on this?

It is not just this case. He has a long history. That is why Sauron disappeared.

Someone was finally bold enough to come forward and admit I was banged and financially milked. And stood up to the threat of her nudes exposed. Others just left NL.

IlekeHD:
How many of them did you report?

Have you ever tried to blow a whistle on anyone? Seeing them and watching them walk away is enabling a criminal. You're just as guilty.

None.

Toby77:
maybe you can enlighten me on how a highly skilled worker that is deemed 'Good' to use your own words by private firms would be in a situation where he requests his girlfriend to send a measly $50 to Arif in India? This is someone that is highly skilled and would probably qualify for a work visa and good pay. Can you kindly explain?

A highly skilled person would likely not even risk his career for such crimes.

EfemenaXY:
The bolded is an assumption on your part. May I ask what it's based on?

I've read a couple of his posts and he does come across as an extremely articulate person with very good penmanship skills. Certainly above what your average Nairalander churns out. That to me, can only be from having a solid educational background.

I have seen many of them. As Ibime said, we went to school with them. It does not turn out well as they have no good Plan B.

Jay Z is also very articulate but he has no degree. I am not saying coogar does not have a degree, I am just saying articulation is not necessarily a result of a solid educational background. The things that have been said about him through the grapevine was confirmed by this case. He uses girls to support himself. That tells me he does not have a means of income for a very long time. So very unlikely he is highly skilled or an IT contractor.

IlekeHD:
To coogar, I know you won't see this

1. If you're really guilty and you think she's an accomplice, go to the court and report both of you. If you're really guilty, you're already going down son. Trust no one but yourself. Do your time like a responsible man you try to claim, if you're really guilty.

2. If you're being blackmailed, as it seems, do not pay the money because you will still be ousted to the court. Payment will not guarantee your freedom. Jejely walk to a police station and report yourself.

Do the Crime. Pay with time. Be a man and go report yourself if you're guilty.

[size=14pt]Should I see these IDs on NL without Seun/NL Mods presenting court ruling that coogar/babe3 are innocent in the eyes of the law, I will know that NL supports fraudulent activities.

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It seems Olaone1 is right. You have an anti-BABE3 agenda.

I noted you did not include 'If you're really guilty and you think she's not an accomplice'.

What did BABE3 do to you? You were one of the ones she verbally attacked when the going was good?

Olaone1:
She knows what she's doing. She wants to scupper the whole effort. She doesn't want Babe to get that money. Ileke is one smart-ass

Na serious deal! Completely unnecessary.

EfemenaXY:
That's not entirely true.

In some sectors (private sectors to be precise), employers actively source out potential employees who are GOOD at what they do. It matters not to these employers if you have a visa or not as they're prepared to get a work visa for you. Only thing is, the visa lasts for as long as you're in their employment.

Mind you, I'm referring to highly skilled workers.

Guys like these are hardly ever in that bracket.

They are lost and their pride and previous reputation of being ballers would not allow them to take low but legal jobs.

Ibime:
A lot of these niggas doing fraud, we grew up with them through school, uni etc.

They got lazy after uni and didnt go to hustle with the rest of us. After Govt blocked off all the loopholes, they are desperate living from hand to mouth while their mates are progressing. They can buy a bottle of champagne in the club, but they cannot buy anything substantial, have no credit and cannot buy a house and often wonder from one spot to another. Its a despicable existence.

IlekeHD:
Then let him have his day in court. Show us THAT proof too, or is there a gag order on it?

How hard is it to proof that you guys have complaint to the right officials?

This is like the 5th scam case in the past 6 years and we no hear the court cases. Kontinu o!

Have his day in court to achieve what?

You think the complainant would be able to recoup her money if that happens? This is the best thing for the complainant at the moment.

He is going to refund it. If it turns to any case, he would disappear and the police would not prioritise chasing him but only have his name on warrant to be arrested if he ever crosses their part. She would not have her school fees.

Olaone1:
Ileke, this drama is unnecessary

Completely unnecessary at this stage.

IlekeHD:
Ever heard of liquidation? Wasn't the dude bragging about his lifestyle? So I'm sure he has something worth selling. No?

Liquidising what?

You really don't understand guys like this. She said he has been living illegally in the country since his visa expired in 2011. Do you think it would be easy for him to get a job? He is depending on other people's credit card and girls to live day by day. She never saw his place, so it is likely he does not have one to himself, probably squatting. This is the same thing we have been hearing about Sauron well before this. He has no money.

Once in that lifestyle, they become what is known as NINJAs.

N o IN come, J ob or A ssets.

What are you liquidising? You believe he flew to Nigeria to do BVN and he is an IT contractor with a specialist accountant called Arif?

IlekeHD:
Were the bolded true, a legal court would have made him pay. Why collab with a scam artist offline?

Made him pay with what money?

And while in prison?

BoboYekini:
IlekeHD,
Coogar himself has asked to be reported to the authorities and have a case, if any, brought against him. Now whether that has been done or not, let's leave that to the principal actors. But understand that there is a guy code. Fùck ups are best treated in-house.

That is what he has said online. What he has said offline is different. He does not want it to go to the authorities. That is why he is paying up.

IlekeHD:
Look son, do not patronize me. I know you think you've got enough people on your side to mock coogar. Be content with that number.

Take the case [with both coogar/babe3] to the court is all I'm saying. No need for unnecessary grammar. Let the court decide who is guilty and/or innocent.

E se. Thank you.

The $4K is for the school fees sent over to coogar in cash for return of card payments. Unfortunately, Arif did not supply any card that worked on that occasion or there was a chargeback or something like that.

That is why coogar is happy to quickly offer to pay it back, not some blackmail money.

lolaluv1:
I just got to this page. That changing of account number na wash.
There's no changing of account numbers by individuals as posited by Cougar. All account numbers have been changed automatically to the 10 digit NUBAN years ago in ALL banks. This was a CBN mandate which was followed to the max.
All you need to do is to supply the old number number online via the banks customer service if you're unavailable and after due verifications (signature), you will be supplied with the NUBAN.
He can lie sha. Building lies upon lies....

Eye opener.

Someone that is being removed by a tribunal is sacking Perm Secs?

I thought his girl was blonde.

cherryice:
Samething..you judged from what she posted.
And you don't think shes guilty too as her bf could be because she might have known about her bf fraud acts? Yall went ahead to nail him to the cross because she spoke out first not bearing in mind she could have done this cos she was heartbroken..

Tell headlamp1 to leave me alone abeg.

Stop this lame attempt to turn the table.

I have said she enjoyed it while it lasted. You are the one condemning her but refusing to condemn him.

Many have condemned her. You just want to use her evidence to condemn her while saying the same evidence does not mean you can condemn him. That is nonsense, miss.

cherryice:
Gamesmart you never answer me oo. You believe the story based on what was posted and screenshots abi?

Her story is more plausible than his stories.

He cannot be that much of a baller and he is Sauron.

She said her story and provided the evidence, he is dodging and attacking others.

cherryice:
I talk to my friend in question like every day and durrrh she sends me their chats even when I don't ask for it. I know her way before NL durrh. I dont expect yal to believe me though. It's the internet

But you don't believe the chats of paying Priya and do as you are told?

You are happy to use that chat to condemn her but not him?

Where do you come up with these nonsense?

cherryice:
I attacked Jaybee based on another story entirely and not because he was supporting babe3.. Geddit?

For that story, did these not apply?

cherryice:
1) I wasn't there when shit went down.
2) I don't believe everything I read on the internet.
3) I don't think condemning jaybee would change the situation or anything at hand.
4) I don't follow the crowd.

cherryice:
Im not condemnin / supporting coogar neither am I gonna supportbabe3, that's the summary of what I wrote there.
I'm never sad nor desperate.

I like the way you put this. It is obvious you know you are condemning BABE3 because you did not say you would not like for coogar.

cherryice:
Stop getting too sentimental. I have never said coogar was a victim n babe3 is guilty. Nawaooo, when did standing on a neutral ground amount to been one-sided defending?
Fish out the post where I attaccked babe3 defendants pertaining to why they were defending her and please and also fish out posts where I posted coogar was the victim. if you don't understand something, just ask questions biko..

You are indeed neutral.

Are you saying you have not condemned BABE3 and attacked jaybee3?

Then you were there when poo went down? You are a Viewer?

Stop talking nonsense, woman. Who are you sending money to at the end of the month? Arif or Priya?

cherryice:
I should condemn coogar and y'all be satisfied abi?
No I wont..cos of the following reasons

1) I wasn't there when shit went down.
2) I don't believe everything I read on the internet.
3) I don't think condemning coogar would change the situation or anything at hand.
4) I don't follow the crowd.
5) I'm angry because if the story is true, then im sorry babee3 doesnt deserve any form of pity from me. Not like my pitying would change anything though.
6) I have never attacked anyone condemning coogar, its always the other way round. You lots attack me for been neutral - and not condemning him like you all do here
... and please I have never atacked babe3. I asked QUESTIONS like everyother persons which I never got answers to uptill now..
and lastly (7) I don't have any right to condemn, I am not God and you all aint either

I have one question for you though, thats if you would answer without been sentimental - You believed the chic's story based on what she wrote and the screenshots posted here right? Anyother thing?

But those reasons do not apply to BABE3?

Very neutral indeed.

You are one sad and desperate woman. BABE3 was as blind as this last year. You are a learner.

Sophyrocks:
They are only deliberating on the fact that a fraudster involved in credit card theft must be brought to book. and i share the same sentiment. both of them are guilty.

Please tell her. To her, only BABE3 is guilty. Coogar is a victim.

cherryice:
Ohh so you now admit the chic was gullible abi?
Gamesmart hope you saw this..Remove the panties covering your eyes, get the message once and for all and stop getting too sentimental over my posts!

I was hoping you would see it because, as I said, you are likely to be the gullible girl to pay the money $4K owed.

cherryice:
Now that you think you've filled up the missing part, what difference does it make that the chic was timid?

No one said the chic was not timid or even guilty. Your reluctance to condemn coogar and your desire to attack her and anyone condemning him is what is worrying.

cherryice:
Pesin go open eye give the excuse of been 17 abi 18years dey send money to bf who was scamming her and at the end of d day, they broke up come here to cry. We follow your bf spend the fraudulent Arif money abi we dey there when you dey do the transaction?
on several visits, you were always handling the bills for someone that had no money, that one no tell you say you are been taken for a long ride?
I hail my naija babes and love oo.
My own love sha no reach for money side o

Laveda kedu? Hows my pidgin?

You missed out some parts, one-sided defender.

cherryice:
He knows the question


Oga..I dont do married men, read my lips abeg. I don tire to indulge you.. now go choke on babee3's peepee

You don't do married men, you just do scammers and single-motherhood.

Don't stop now and save your money for your kid. Let you desperation and insecurity be exploited.

Headlamp1:
Abeg lemme alone jare. Ase o tie le.
No be by force to post your info that I have.

This man just shut up. You are looking like an idiot.

Grundig:
Guys, don't do this. I'm not taking any shots at jaybee. I'm in full support of what he doing. I'm just concerned that for a married man with a child he knows way too much what happens on nairaland.

If he were younger. . .that can be excused. I used to be a troll on nairaland when I was in college and uni with fast internet. I can't do that now. . .family gotta eat!

Please shut up. You are not making any sense.

cherryice:
smh, talk is cheap yet some ppl cant afford it..Just shut up abeg!!

The same cheap talk you were using to throw dirt at jaybee3?

After he is done with you, nothing will be cheap.

Mindfulness:
There is a difference between understanding and excusing someone's behavior, don't you think?

I don't believe that condemning people helps anyone though. He should be punished for the wickedness but he should also get a chance to start all over. Nobody is without sin.

We just don't want this to happen to any other girl on NL again. That is why we have decided to expose him completely.

Now no girl would send money to him for Arif's US-registered, France-registered, Spain-registered credit cards. ........................Hopefully.

If he can stop, he is free to start over.