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Mindfulness:
I agree 100%.

I just can't say what it is that made him this way. Some people say he is an illegal immigrant. If it is true, then be sure that it is not easy and the corrupt politicians that destroyed this country are also responsible for stories like his.


I would like to mention one more aspect. I have seen plenty of people here condemning him but I am sure that many of them live on the money their brothers send them knowing fully well that they make this amounts of money using illegal ways outside of Africa.

They celebrate their arrival every year around Christmas.

I am also sure that many of these people would gladly accept huge amounts of money without asking where it came from.

Being disadvantaged is not a good excuse for deliberately fücking others over. What he is doing is wicked and not excusable.

His fate is more probably due to being a bad boy in his youth and dabbling in 419 to raise cash to live the high life. Unfortunately, this is becoming harder as technology is being introduced by companies, so now the times of success are fewer and fewer, so the money got is only for survival. He never had a legal Plan B, so he is going to perish in these scams. There will always be desperate women.

raumdeuter:
I have friends when we were teenagers experimented with drugs and cultism, Some came out unscathed others "perished" in it

This is what I was saying about him wasting his life.

Toby77:
they have left him to God abi isn't that how it is said naija style. Not everybody is as bold and courageous as Babe3 to come out and make there business open. Most would rather let it slide and he's broke anyways how he wan take pay back??. Dude doesn't have an address, he's reported to be hanging around in different hotels. 190 was spot on when he said we don't have his full history because of the callumny of lies that he spits too different women it's so hard to sort out the blatant lies from the truths, semi truths, semi partial truth and outright falsehoods .

This man has said it all and knows what we know outside NL.

Mindfulness:
From what I know about him is that he is very good at rap battles, which requires a good command of the English language.
He is also very manipulative, which means that he is good at psychology.
He is very confident (I am sure not only online or else Babe3 would have ended it sooner, which is a determining factor when it comes to success.

I believe, I am not sure, but I believe that he is someone who under different circumstances would have made it far in life by legal means.

He wasted his intellect and talent. If he had directed it to other legal stuff he could have been seen as a success and better human being.

Unfortunately, for many Nigerian boys trying to show off in their youths, they do illegal things to get rich quick, it becomes too late to follow the honourable path and they are forever in the crime mindset because that is the only way they can survive.

No wonder we have many intelligent Nigerian scammers.

But considering his explanations and approach to this scandal, we can say his intellect is not probably the best. He is just good at emotional intelligence as you spotted.

190theclown:
Y'all saying that coogar flew to Nigeria to do his BVN are callous

First BABE has already said that Coogar is living in the UK on a 6month visa which expired since 2011

So him been an IT Contractor is pure Bullocks, who wan hire am wen he nor get visa?

Additionally he cant get a Job except all these night jobs and its really dangerous as if you are caught working without

papers you get deported and the person who hires you pays £10,000 per employee (hired without the complete papers)

So its very risky, Now while i personally believe that Coogar is an overstayer all others made complete sense because

I have seen all his conversations between BABE, Coogar, Kay and another of Coogar's friend and a conclusion has been made

that coogar would pay babe the $4000 he owes her, Hes got 2weeks.

Now my advise for coogar would be work on getting your papers, if you wan fly that 10year route as an overstayer it wont work

because na 4years u don do and UK de change their laws on a daily basis.

Wont talk much tho, Coogar and Babe na still my favourites

I just want peace for all parties and they can go their seperate ways afterall i sabi Babe before she even met coogar

and want the best for the poor girl

Babe3 hit me up, I nor too fine today e be like say Flu don hold me so i de under blanket today make we discuss

Maybe he can get Arif to fix him a Syrian passport and then head for Germany. They are taking everything.

raumdeuter:
Mindfulness. I would say any human can fall for a scam. We all have our weak points, all is needed is for the scammer to pretend to be the person you so much desire

How do you know your current BF is not a big scam just waiting to cash out big on you at a later date. Love business every human relation has its risk because you only know your own motive you dont know the other persons

You can have controls in place but there is always someone who knows the way around your security system

Read about scam, watch "American greed and see how people very intelligent and classy have fallen to scams.

Everyone can fall for a scam, it is about the length of the fall that we are blaming BABE3 for. Once she knew and did not leave, she was no more a victim.

Mindfulness:
I really have difficulties seeing women, who date people who behave like Coogar, as victims. What were they attracted to? To his crass, discriminating, populist, undeveloped opinions? To his curses? To the confidence everyone can fake online? The problem I have with the word victim is that it implies that these people have absolutely no responsibility in all of this when the truth is that they chose to mingle with such dubious folks.
Another problem I have with the term victim is that it implies that you have no control over what happens to you when in fact you have a lot of control. Vicitmizing people makes them helpless but the aim should be to empower them. Therefore, the question in all of this should be, what was my contribution to the problem and how can I avoid it by making better choices in the future.


When we understand why we attract pain to our lives, we can avoid it. This is empowerment.

Don't get me wrong, I am not judging them. I had to go through lots of pain to understand that it was me who is responsible for the pain and misery I attract - and once I understood it, I was free and ever since I have been attracting wonderful people and wonderful experiences to my life.

The insecure type looking for a successful man and who are attracted to the confidence, swag and wittiness he displays. Thinking it makes him unique and attractive.

airmark:
He once said he earned 500 pounds per day, so 2700 will not be an issue to him. Unless you know what we don't know about his IT contractor profession.

With the spending he claims, you would need at least £2700 a day to justify all these flying girls first class, divorce payouts and getting Arif's exclusive Premier Client Deluxe services of being your personal fixer.

Only £500? .......The story no wash.

crazo:
Looool. He actually flew KLM . London-Amsterdam-Nigeria. You know he's a man of repute so he has to come over to the branch he was 'dormiciled' and speak to the manager directly.
And as an IT consultant at least from the little I know(which is actually close to nothing), you can actually forecast the market and come home when you feel the demand will be low. Buh e be like say bros own na wash because that time when he been come 'lagos' na one of the peak periods for UK, so if u leave lasan na poundsES don fly go be that oh. What I can deduce is he scammed the girl,emotionally,psychologically and financially buh it is the extent of the financial aspect that I don't know. Kudos to the girl for coming out tho,most people will just bottle it ni. But she ought to have suspected one or two of his dealings tho, she fumble for that side

Kudos to BABE3! You have to give her that.

Many have been banged and passed money over to him that have left quietly because of the shame.

Mindfulness:
Yeah and the girl is nothing but an innocent victim. She had no control over what happened to her and she won't have any control if it happens to her again because when bad things happen we are helpless victims. Yeah, right.

She might not have been a victim from the things we have seen, but there have been others who were genuine victims we were hearing stories about before and Sauron disappeared.

freshvine:
For me I've read good part of the story and here's my deduction.

Babe knows that coogar is a fraudster right from the onset but tag along either for love or using the Maga as a cash cow. Things fell apart and Babe demanded for settlement from coogar and if he decline she'll blow hot but coogar dismiss her threat like the ranting of an ant. She then think of a way to blackmail coogar into paying her since he has deliberately gone incommunicado and made her moves on nairaland. Coogar sensing danger and the attendant repercussions equally threaten to expose her nudes, that threat brought in his foes who are adamant to make him go under if he doesn't cooperate and pay the girl off.

The humanitarian group only concern is to coerced coogar into redeeming his promise to his ex girlfriend but coogar is much concerned about his online reputation and that necessitated him employing all he has to protect the already laundered image.

Babe is hurt and what becomes of this issue would tentatively be secondary to her. Inside of her, she prays this doesn't snowball into something unmanageable but bank on her 'negotiators' to keep everything within the confine of Nairaland. Coogar can't accept being a fraudster and babe knows that because if he eventually accept, he will implicate her. Both actors are keeping sensitive information away from nairaland.

Jaybee, from the last post before my analysis, I think your hands did be tied being a turncoat at an instant just after engaging coogar. This peace deal and fence mending is rather instantaneous.

You give good analysis, miss. You definitely don't send your rent to no one and don't do as you are told.

cherryice:
Whatever this means tho..

..modified..

I wasnt attackin jaybee3 for anything, not for coogar. We were talkn abt somthn else that ddnt hv anythn to do wt dcoogar ishh.. guess u much of a nuisant to see that.. n I wasnt evn "attacking" jaybee.. I was stating a fact that im very well certain of. This nonsense you r spewing right here doesnt change the fact that ur jaybee is guilty as charged lol based on wat I said...You r just confused or perhaps drooling for chitchat with me n I aint got that time.
Jaybee3 story is aside..If the thing dey pain una as e dey, what yal need to do is log off the internet and go arrest the coogar abeg. How would it affect me or my unborn generation? Abeg dey your lane...

If its hurting yal real bad because I ddnt join ur bandwagon of people who would remove speck of dusts in others eyes forgetting they got log of wood in their own eyes, then im sorry u need to kill urself right wherever u are. Everyone cant believe what you believe in..shuooo..i never evn said i was anytime in supprt of coogar nor babe3, iv always been neutral. I never calld coogar a thief neither did I say babe3 was lying..I have been asking questns no one has evn answered uptill now. Like I said n would stl say, I dont believe everything I see on d internet n I dont really care abt anythn on d internet..The more ya'l get to know this is the internet where everything goes n not ur real lives, the better for yal mofos.

Yeah right, you don't support coogar. You are just doing as you are told and would soon send your house rent to get sweet words whispered in your ears, a nice fück and Arif's series of digits.

No worry. BABE3 was here before and she was as diligent too.

She defended him better than M15 could defend UK.

airmark:
Then we should join forces to reduce whatever percentage of them on nairaland. Justwise was busy doing a great job on travel section, despite not being popular cos most members are like Gbenga always here to scam people. I dont care the type of people fighting a scammer, that's inconsequential. What is paramount is to get a scammer outta here. The vessel is not as important as the end product. Get it?

By the way, this is the same person that claims he never claimed to be Igbo.

https://www.nairaland.com/809995/babe#9619294

All his story just no wash.

zicoraads:
Defend Coogar? Laughable...I don't care if he drowns in the lagoon. I don't know him from anywhere. But frankly speaking, am surprised at how you and your fanboys have slept...woken up...slept again...taken your bath...eaten on this thread. Don't y'all have jobs?

And despite all these...the guy has dared y'all to take him to the authorities, but you lot just keep whinning online like market women.

Please jor. You are not defending him?

You are just attacking for him?

How come you have not attacked him?

cherryice:
Gamesmart I know you sleep on this thread but please can you leave my moniker outta the unnecessary mentions while you're at it. I comment as every other persons here and last I checked I'm entitled to my opinion just as everyone is to theirs.. I'm asking you nicely now to stop, okay?

Cherryice, are you not the one coming here to attack jaybee3 for coogar like BABE3 would have been doing last year?

Abeg, you are just doing 'as you are told'?

zicoraads:
Am surprised you have one. The way you have been on this thread...you and your "fanboys".

This is coming from a fanboy that is defending coogar?

zicoraads:
Do you have a job?

A legal one, yes.

BoboYekini:
I dey reason am say Coogar no fit be scammer. Or whether he just say make he dabble into am. You don ever see scammer wey refund $4k? On top say the babe chop inside the moolah? Laye! Ask Jim Iyke

It was Arif the fixer that got him into this mess and BABE3 could not be found for his lawyers to clear him.

Ewuro4:
Hmm how would you know that?

Like @legatusglaber inferred .. Skeletonssss

You no serious.

LegatusGlaber:
Tell him to remove the smart attached to his moniker before you reply. As such you will come down to his level

What are you talking about, Mr?

Ewuro4:
Everyone has a bank account dude. Even a scammer

They try not to mess with it to do anything that would trigger suspicion.

coogar:
don't be too hasty to see this into conclusion. there's more to come!



the cease & desist letter was issued but it seems she's moved from her last known address.....if she didn't receive it, she cannot be held liable. so i came all out to defend myself. if it hurts my case later, then so be it.



go ahead & ban it!
we have a convicted felon at the head of TEHN.....he's not banned. yet you want coogar banned?

More to come how.

Man, stop this hoarding of defence. Why can't you just tell her to take the $4K from the $6K she owes you.

@BABE3, have you changed address?

Ewuro4:
Dude I just explained.

I go to the bank with my cash/debit card, purchase money order in any amount and mail it to Babe!

I wanted to be sure. So you are assuming a scammer would have a bank account and can use it to go to his bank to buy money order without raising any alarms. I am not too sure that is possible, but maybe I am wrong.

tellwisdom:
How the guy go take pay $4k in 2weeks??...How much he dey collect for work?..I no say make he no pay am oo, but make all these men no dey burgle the guy up. If they feel they are concerned about the whole ish, let them contribute for her- And if they feel its non of their business, let them steer clear like they care

He flies girls business class to come and see him, he flies business class to do BVN in Nigeria, he pays for his girlfriend's friend's rent.

$4K in 2 weeks is nothing.

Arif dey.

coogar:
you are not intelligent!
the plan to pay her $4k had been in the pipeline since may. we lost contact in between & she's demanding that the money should be paid. i made promises to pay & now i ain't a baller?

So what about the $6K she owes you?

What happened to the lawyer's gag and the suit?

coogar:
it's safer & it can be traced in case the recipient deny they received any payment. ewuro4 makes more sense than jaybee.

Does it not involve using her and your bank account?

coogar:
there was no petty online jagbajantis......when the going was good, did you learn of anything? there's a price to pay for any man that gets attached to an obsessive woman. i am praying that price as we speak!

No, man. Your argument is not strong. No man pays off an obsessive woman he is not married to while claiming she is defaming him.

What happened to your big-time lawyers and the gag they put on you?

So you paid to consult these lawyers to sue her but you still decided to pay her off, even though she owed you $6K?

Flied business class to Nigeria to do BVN while losing your daily IT contractor rate?

Man, come on! You are not that much of a baller.

Ewuro4:
I meant money order. My bad.

So for $4k , I'll do 8 $500 or 10 $400 instalments without any pressure. No rush.

How would the money order work then?

coogar:
the only intelligent thing you have said all day.



at all.....she is jaybee's squeeze.

You are denying but giving excuses that do not wash?

So you are a clean IT contractor but Accountant Arif is the crook?

Dongata:
He simply telling you he's a criminal but he is not the only criminal

He is denying he is a criminal.

Ewuro4:
Honestly. Ain't paying through these guys shît if it were me. Bank drafts instalments will do the trick. Make copies for reference.

This is a lesson for Naija parents that send their wards abroad to study Alone without adult supervision.

How does Bank draft instalments work?

wonlasewonimi:
Jaybee Halifax will close your account if this guy wire Arif card into it