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Did you read Aberdeen coached by Fergie winning 3 titties in a league dominated by the Glasgow clubs Rangers and Celtic.FYI,Celtic was the first British club to win champions league in 1967. Fergie led Aberdeen to defeat Real Madrid in 1983 European cup finals. Did you think he jumped from nowhere to caoch Man Utd.He was brought in like a Messiah to rescue Utd who had not won a league title since 1968 after leading to Scotland to 1986 world cup.quote author=FirstbornWds post=84570359]

But he never left Man Utd... Did he??[/quote]

Really,which one of them has won 16 league titles, 13 with United and 3 for Abedeen(the last time they won it was in 85 when he left them. Also Aberdeen led by Fergie was the last Scottish club to win an European title.Which one of them has coached a team to qualify world cup finals as he did leading Scotland to Mexico 86.

Fergie won competitive league titles with exceptional players 92-94,young fledglings in 95-97 and average players in 2013. Tell me any of these coaches who has surpassed all the record listed.

FirstbornWds:
Same should be said for Klopp, Jose, And Ancelloti. They are all better coaches than Alex Ferguson

*kilo Kan mi* nice stuff

DonFreshmoney:
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I'm getting money
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Pour the Whiskey
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So what's funny?
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But odikwa risky

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Yes yuh body risky
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He is more than one like 10 rolled into one.He is definitely on a higher paygrade.

seanmozilla:
One zombie spotted!

You are fatalist and I will never engage you in any discussion again. Messi's networth is approx $400m which makes him less richer than Kylie Jenner or Kim Kadrashian who are not football superstars and have no discernible talents.However they made money by their ingenuity of being social media savy. I know a lot of Nigerians who are richer than Messi,it isn't my fault you dont know them or think only Dangote is richer.

Anyway if you want to go far in life,you have to dream,think and act big.Nothing stops you from being the richest man in the world. This two quoted lines of yours are insulting and should be better than that ''Can you compare your work intelligence with his football genius too..? ''You can't be as rich as Messi or Cristiano as a Nigerian unless you are a Dangote!! "

eni4real:
You are comparing your 'wealth' with that of a football Superstar??

Can you compare your work intelligence with his football genius too..?

Shoe get size abeg..

You can't be as rich as Messi or Cristiano as a Nigerian unless you are a Dangote!!

Dont join issues with people who clearly do not understand the dichotomy between budget and revenue.They always believe budget is real money or revenue in the bag already.From 1999 till date no budget in Nigeria has recorded 70%performance.

SarkinYarki:
I was referring to the active Lagos 2019 budget which was just slightly bigger 2billion dollars and not the 2020 which is not active ..and even the 2020 budget is just a paltry 4 billion dollars when you take population and infrastructural deficit into cognizance ... Please wake up pound pound Lagos is not in a better financial position than Zamfara ,Lagos just has money available for a Governor who doesn't want to work to loot

Yet they have just borrowed N250B(almost a quarter of its annual budget) to fund projects and settle contractor's bills.Do not be deceived about any IGR,Lagos has huge debts that are crystallising everyday and the repayments eroding the IGR. Sanwoolu is groaning and sweating but can say it out.If you know any close person to him,you can verify .

Iamgrey5:
Stop making up falacies bruv

Even the Estimated budget of Zamfara is not up to $350m not to talk of the working budget which will be much lower.

By the way, How exactly do you come into conclusion that lagos is not in better financial position than Zamfara when Lagos has constantly ranked as one of the only state in Nigeria that can survive without Federal governmental monthly allocation.

You are just found of making up stats with your ass.

Quick to defend.Google Lagos State Ex Governors pension and allowances.They are even given homes in Abuja which they never governed as part of the package.Tinubu's houses in asokoro and bourdillon are part of this package.
I am waiting if Julius Berger will build house for Buhari in Daura just as they did for IBB&Abdulsalam in Minna,Obj in Abeokuta and Jonathan in Otueke.Then we will know if he is truly a man of integrity.(I know all forms of defences are being prepared in advance)

Injera:
Do you have ample proof all you are just running your mouth with hear says

So does that make you less human.BTW he is not a billionaire in the currency he gets paid and who says you can't be a billionaire in the global currency.

eni4real:
A fellow human being or A football genius with Billions??

Is that an answer? Please be less emotional when you are eulogising a fellow human being.

Igbosmoker:
Maybe maradona has won it
Pele has won it
Ronaldo de lima has won it
Messi has also won it

So who was the MVP of 1986 world cup held in Mexico?

NoFap123:
Dude is just few games from breaking Maradona's goal record for Argentina, he is the most decorated player in that Country on an individual level.

Maradona as good as he was never the best player in a FIFA Worldcup. Cut him some slack.

So much for a multi million naira deal signed with a BIC Biro.

itspzpics:
Bbnaija star Tacha has signed another multi million naira deal with Royal hair.

The deal was announced by the hair company as they shares photos of Tacha smiling and signing her ambassadorial deal with the hair company.

Source ; http://www.praizenews.com/tacha-becomes-face-of-royal-hair-signs-ambassadorial-deal/

I am on the money on your personality. A grand victim of superiority complex on the pathway to delusion.Even if I have never heard of eugenics,isn't there google at the palms of my finger to take care of that.
Meanwhile Mr Intelligentsia, I have never been a fan of controlled breeding I am too liberal for that close-mindedness. Thought by your knowledge you should have known that until late 19th century only the Oyo stock of western Nigeria are known as or called Yorubas. That is what my statement about direct alafin descendants implied and not any air of superiority.

ornicus:
I know you are too slow to understand what eugenics is. As you chase your purebreed Yoruba empire ,Just remember what inbreeding does.

You sound intelligent but it always come out negative,your whole life must be a mess.I am not the to spill your verbal diarrhoea on. Keep it simple,you should be a man. Attacking different ethnic groups for myopic reasons shows how unsophisticated you are and must be living in a silo.

ornicus:
What idiotic nonsense are you talking? Direct descendant of past alafins? Seems I have finally met a Yoruba eugenics nutcase.

You are the one that needs to change.i am a proper Yoruba man and unless you are direct descendant of the past Alaafins then we can talk as being equal as Yoruba man.

ornicus:
He is just like you. I have always stated that core northerners and Easterners are in the end, warped mirror images of each other. Fanatical religious hypocritices, tribalist , discriminatiory, and oppressors of the poor in their societies

No difference between him and you, whoever you happen to be

The breakdown only resulted out of incompetence.Man from up North ready to die for "their Goverment",am I an IPOB too?

mu2sa2:
NRC apologized for the mechanical breakdown. Very good of them for being considerate for the minor inconvenience the passengers experienced. Your claim that NRC apologized for their "incompetence" is entirely false.

I am so happy to read that you are being served your own stew.You can see how that man from up north tagged you an IPOB because you are objective on this issue. So how does it feel now?

ornicus:
Continue defending incompetence. Nigerians from all tribes and jobs and income have no problem with fucking people over for small cut.

Incompetent bums screwing over their booming business with naija mentality.privatise nrc already so serious people can sort it out

Yes, you withheld a vital information that you are signatory to an account that was constantly making deposits into your personal accounts.Your chance of winning that appeal is very narrow.

tobie247:
Hello ladies and Gentlemen.

I applied for a visitors' visa to Canada July 23rd this year.
Oct. 23rd, i received a mail from them that my accounts seemed fraudulent and they gave me 10 days to prove the accounts are mine with sufficient evidence. The accounts i used are my salary account and my personal savings account with like 400k in the savings and 500plus in my salary acct & savings acct.

So i replied wt a cover letter stating d accounts were mine and that most of d cashflow in my savings account were from the family estate account which has quute a huge sum and onlyi and my mom have access to, i printed out another set of bank statements with cover letters from the bank stating i was indeed d owners of d account with no bad record. I also got a cover letter from d Estate account stating i was a signatory and therefore had access to it with no bad record.

Yesterday, i got a mail from the stating i was refused d visa becos i withheld information from them and therefore inadmissable until after 5 years.

Dear gurus, can i appeal this? Cos i didn't withhold anybinfo except i didnt include d Estate acct d first time. I cant bear that refusal nor d 5 years.

Country Treasurer on about N2M p/a salary when he left Mobil not chief treasurer.Dont mix it up.

itsme01:
mumu talks, Tinubu had nothing linking him to herioing drug burst as he already was a retired chief treasurer of exxon mobil and a reputable accounting consultant

Obasanjo forfeited some money to the FG same as many politicians and kings including Obi of Onitcha, so interim forfeiture doesnt indict you of a crime it simply means some one under criminal investigation paid money into your account

in the case of Onyeama he has a fraud case of $20m in canada and a $14m in georgia

I am beginning to get weary of your wrong assertions and inverted facts. One is already sticking out here and calls for immediate rebuttal .Sunday Mba was not clublless in 2013 as he was playing for Warri Wolves. Also do you want to compare nations cup with world cup?

So the summary of your arguments will make me conclude that Messi did not deserve Fifa best player since he didnt score against liverpool at the decisive second leg or at the copa rey final loss to Valencia.Also he didnt deserve 2015 ballon d'ór since he didnt score against Juventus in final. That it was Rakitic.Neymar and Suarez that rescued him. You can see how laughable and jejune you arguments are if you disagree with this my illogical conclusion. Also MESSI had the opportunity to win his the Copa America of 2016 against Chile with the team's fate in his hands,but he kicked the ball into the space.Will you still blame Higuain for his miss? Higuain has the record goals in serie A that same Batistuta plied his trade for many years so he isnt an average player. Even though Batistuta of that era is a more ruthless goal scorer and a beast as number 9. He never got to the world cup finals.

Really let us be honest,you didnt watch Argentina's world cup team of 86 and 90 live.You must have seen them on youtube now.It also appears the memory of the 1994 world cup isn't from emotional engagement of live games as well.

However,I have always enjoyed our debates here as you make your points without insults which is a deviation from many users of this platform.It shows your good upbringing,please keep it up.

eni4real:
Focus on their performances in the world cup tournament and not the club side..
You can't demean players because of their struggles in their clubs.. We are talking about those of them that reach great form in the national team(International tournament) here...
Cannigia was the rocket of the 1990 group.. His disqualification really showed to the world that Maradona doesn't carry the team all by himself afterall.. If he had played in the final and scored a couple of goal, your analysis about the Germans being superior will not exist at all.. You will say, "Maradona layed those goals for him on a plate" .. But with the disqualification, you only focus on the quality of the Germans and not the limitation of Maradona.. You see!!
Replace Buruchaga with Higuain in 1986, Maradona would not win that World cup final.. 5goals, 5assists in previous matches would not make him win the Germans especially when they marked him out of the game!!!

Clubless Luiz Brown?? Sunday Mba was also Clubless when he won the AFCON trophy for Nigeria in 2013

Maradona scored 5goals, 5 assists, so it is a guarantee for winning trophies..?? That is false.. If his teammates did not rise up in the final when it matter most, that tally will be a waste.. Messi had 5goals, 4 assists in Copa America 2016 too but the team lost eventually in the final.. Imagine if Messi teammates also scored 3 goals in the final against Chile..? I hope you can see the difference between Buruchaga and Higuain here?

Give Messi that talented Bastituta group, if they will not win more than 2 World Cups...

Maradona and Pele had better teammates at the peak of thier powers!!!

Lol. What rank was Kaduna Nzeogwu,T.Y Danjuma,Murtala Mohammed and even even G.G Orkar when they all organized bloody coups. FYi middle level officers which Majors are the most active in coup plotting as they are the closest to the rank and file
Also never ever called
a major in the army a lowly ranked officer as it can take up to 10 years to obtain that rank.You need to pass staff college to get that promotion and one of the most difficult exams in the army.You can get by after that if you are favoured but that Major rank you have heard about isn't a child's play Mr Omni Knoweth .

solmusdesigns:
Mr omni ignorant , yeah Dasuki was a Major during the coup which removed Buhari/idiagbon compared to Generals organising coup he is not only lowly he is far from a someone to organise a coup as quoted by your fellow ignoramus that first quoted me

learn to read before jumping unto a reply

There you go omni knoweth.A colonel is a lowly ranked officer to you .I shake my head.

solmusdesigns:
saying a mere retired colonel is a coup "hard man" is a joke.. he was just like any other low ranker carrying out orders

, the only reason why Sambo is still in custody is that he refused to go on trail without camera, he wants to rat out many people including Jonathan, Obasanjo and many top Military Head of State and retired army generals, should he speak buhari knows he would burn cos people would come for him left right and center so he is kept in a safe house enjoying almost everything elzakzaky is enjoying.. he is even in asokoro

I dont want to sound condescending but your arguments are always illogical.5 goals and 5 assists.Golden ball and silver shoe in a world cup finals and it is by help of his teammates that he even lifted up.Luis Brown that partnered Ruggeri in defence was clubless before the world cup and Jorge Valdano was rusting on Madrid's bench .Can you picture this happening in this generation clubless and bench warmers in the first 11 of a world cup final team.

Talk about Cannigia an unheralded player struggling for numbers at Atalanta,he even started that world cup on the bench.All his 4 world cup goals had Maradona's hands.From the one Maradona eliminated all the defence of Brazil to lay on the plate for him in1990 to the cheeky quick release to beat Peter Rufai in 1994.Yet he was bigger than Maradona according to you.FYI the 90 Argie world cup team was substandard,it took the mercurial Maradona and dogged defending (two pen shoot outs) for them to get to the final after losing opening match to Cameroun. They met a superior team in GERMANY, the best pool of talents in the world both in attack and defence.They were lucky to get beaten by just a goal because they defended all through and was waiting for Maradona's magic.

In 1994 with all the talents that abound in the Argentina's team(Redondo,Caceres,Batigol,Cannigia,Young Simeone etc) the last match Maradona played was the one they got any result from which was against Nigeria which he was just the difference.They were trounced by the two eastern european teams of Bulgaria and Romania. This clearly showed that Maradona was the soul of all the world cup teams of Argentina from 1982 when he was kicked by fouling to 1994 when he was kicked out for doping.
So please bring a superior argument.

eni4real:
Maradona could have won because the team was good enough to win it without him..

Messi's generation can't even qualify for World cup without him..

If you are fair, you will accept that Higuain does not have the talent of Bastituta.... The difference between Higuain and Messi in football intelligence is far wide... If Messi had Maradona's teammates, he would win more than 3 international trophies.. At least 1 World cup and 2 Copa America!!!

Higuain could not even 'do the Gotze' or 'do the Eder'

Maradona Is god of 1986 World cup, not god of Football!!!

When Cannigia was disqualified from the 1990 World cup final, Maradona could not take the glory as usual against a familiar foes, the Germans!!

Remember his teammates scored all the goals that ensure the trophy against Germany in the 1986 edition...

The end justify the means but we have to give credit where it is due.. Buruchaga, Valdano and Brown ensured the victory when Maradona was marked out of the game by the Germans...

Good teammates performance when it matter most!!!

Where is Gotze and Eder today? .Please do not bring opportunists to this discussion it is almost beneath the level of discuss here.
That somebody scored the winning goal means he won the trophy for them? As if only one game makes a tournament.There are always defining moments in all team sports.
How do you argue,is Griezman in the same team with Ronaldo and what was he doing as a better player when Ronaldo was off in the finals.No doubt one player might have a better tournament but it doesnt fit into this argument.

eni4real:
Won the Euro by performing well against Hungary and Wales only!!!

That is not what won the trophy... Griezman was far better en route to the final with 6 goals..

Eder won the trophy for Ronaldo(when CR7 was handicapped by injury), scoring the most important goal in Portugal national team history against an Almighty France!!!

Like this:

An your last question?? Who won the World cup for Germany in 2014 and how many minutes did he play??

Very apt ,you have been following football for long.Maradona at 5.5inches could do anything with the ball that Socrates&Zico two football geniuses couldn't do because of low centre of gravity.

Elxandre:
What people don't realise is, you need a low center of gravity to be a great dribbler.
It come's naturally to these small players. Just look at the likes of Dybala or Isco.

People wey sabi ball judge on overall ability.
Count how many Aerial goals Ronaldo has saved his teams with for instance, in games Messi's dribbling might not have helped.
Ronaldo could strike from 30 yards, while Messi takes it to the box. Same result.
it's all about perspective.

Not to mention that Ronaldo was the second best dribbler in the world till he clocked around 30. He picked up a knee injury and suddenly stopped dribbling. Other player's might have lost it all, but he adjusted his game and remained devastating.
Indomie generation fans who just started watching football in 2010 won't relate of course.

No one who watched Ronaldo of United would say he can't dribble. Just know you're arguing with a child when you meet such people.

I knew you have to drag Maradona into this.Did you know Maradona only played just one edition(2games) of Copa America1979 when it was played on home and away basis(or you didnt see that in WIKI). Also a fact that Argentina won twice 1991&1993 when he was active despite him not participating.It means he could have won if he played as Brazil their biggest rivals were second best to them whenever he played against them.

Trying to denigrate that football god wont aid your course in punditry.Even your Messi is the one trying to follow his footsteps,there is nothing Maradona has done on the pitch good or bad that he has not copied.Have you forgotten he scored against Espanyol with his hand too in a league match against ESPANYOL around 2007 some few weeks after dribbling 5 Getafe players in copa del rey.If he wants to replicate Maradona's greatness,let him try those two things on a big stage like the world cup not a against lowly oppositions.

eni4real:
Even Maradona could not win the Copa America despite having better teammates and better coach!!
Handball goal is not allowed there...

Copa America is not as easy as you think..

Copa America>>>>Afcon!!!

Colombia >>Cameroon football history.. talkless of powerhouses like Brazil Uruguay, Argentina etc!!

When you are up to mischief i can see through it. In the last group game which they needed a point to qualify.They were down 3-1 to Hungary before Ronaldo took the game by the scruff of the neck and levelled it 3-1 with two goals and one of them stood out as one of the best of the competition. In the semis against Wales who were almost looking like Denmark of 1992, he was the difference with a goal and assist.In the final he was obviously targeted with a bad tackle as I was sure with him on the pitch they could still have won.so how could Eder with combined minutes of less than 2 hours in a competition will have more glory than the man that took them to final according to you.

eni4real:
Portugal qualified by best loser: That is not by Ronaldo's factor

They beat Croatia: Renato was the MOTM..

Ronaldo was only good against Hungary and Wales and then got injured when it matter most..

But Eder and Co still won the trophy for him!!

I only picked on an inaccurate fact which is, he only stands at one end of the pitch waiting to tap in.I also pointed out one of Messi's flaws as well. I am not to contest play making skills or any other better abilities between two of them.

Responding with personal jibes or insults isn't the way to go or means of winning an argument.Cheers

Angelfrost:
Read again sir... Just put on your glasses of objectivity.

I hailed both players... Each with his own innate ability and playing disposition.

To claim that Ronaldo has equal playmaking capabilities as Messi clearly shows insincerity or poor football viewing skills.

As for defending corners... Seriously??! What else is a player over 6 ft tall supposed to do??! Lol.

Dont argue without facts.Ronaldo is one of the most useful players when defending a corner just like Drogba. You all hail Messi when he completes a dribble,can you beleieve he is one of the players with highest turnover of possession to opponents in European leagues.

Angelfrost:
Not a fan of either... But, we both know Messi would easily have the same number, if not more, if he spent most time on the field hanging around the penalty area...

It's all about choice, individuality, and approach to games... One chooses to be a thorough playmaker, and score when he chooses or opportunity comes... The other basically wants all goals to come through him, even to the obsessive point of getting upset if substituted without a goal. Assisting or tracking back to defend or intercept doesn't interest him.

This is what makes both players unique... And what makes your comparisons, ermmm, quite silly.

minnow*

godwon01:
I think there is no minor in African soccer again. The Lesotho team are showing some respect to our boys. Not a bad game for now.