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must i continue.... mobb deeb

To all dah killaz with dah hundred dollar billz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NUX4tW5pp

[size=80pt]mohammed is a fraud and you are living a lie as a muslim[/size]

BetaThings: Hahaha
10 years? Why do Christians write authoritatively about Islam while Muslims don't really write about Chrsitianity
I wonder why you guys get your facts from
You are beginning to believe your lies since Christian publish fake Qur'an

http://middleeast.about.com/b/2008/01/06/bible-vs-quran-super-bowl-of-publishing.htm

'Marketing savvy or not, the Quran's brigades must be doing something right even as places like the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Texas have created a masters degree "to train missionaries," The Economist notes, "in the art of converting Muslims." It's not always the most ethical missionary zeal in the world: some of those Evangelical lurches have included the production of fake Qurans with writings specifically designed to plant doubt in Muslims' minds The Pentagon, which has been involved in its own counterfeiting operations with the Iraqi media(among other places), would approve."

OK. He had grand delusions of being a prophet when he was 40. But the Jihad movemnt started when he was 53 and died 10yrs later.

for the first 10yrs nothing happened. he started stealing and raping (hallmark of islamic jihad) at 53.

BetaThings: The Qur'an is the speech of Allah
1. Tell me any country that fights a WAR and tell the enemies their Battle plans

stopped right there!

who sent you muslims to wage war?

was islam being persecuted in polytheist Arabia?

Why must everything be about war, violence and politics with you jar heads?

adaybayor: stop exposing you shallowness for GOD's sake

he died after 23yrs of prophethood.

you mean jacod was not a prophet?!!! talk of emptiness....holy crap

neither was Abraham nor Isaac. They were righteous people but not prophets. They went about their daily lives and never preached to any one.

but you scum will even name a ram a prophet after adopting that looney bin mohammed as your prophet

adaybayor: its easy to know when people talk and reason with their a$$...remember he is the most inffluetial man ever to leave...the facts are there, go and check and stop spewing rubbish

ol boi no go blow shitt up abeg ohhh.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

adaybayor: you are still talking nonsense,

so, at what age did the prophet die? in what circumstances did he die?

stfu, he didnt suffer from any disease!!!....did jacob not loose his site? was he not a prophet?

talk of brainless folks, you are one of them

mohammed died when he was 63. ten years after he began his career as a prophet.

He was poisoned by Aisha in conspiracy with Abu Bakr and Her Father who believed they would be schemed out of things if they did not act quickly.

p.s. Jacob was not a prophet in any sense of the word prophet

adaybayor: must you keep spewing rubbish, i thought we were having a sensible discussion.
aisha didnt kill the prophet, he died a natural death so, be careful what you say.

kahabah was built by abraham so, how is it your problem problem where we face in prayers?

another gaff from you, anybody can suffer from disease....u bend down to prevent urine splashing on your body cos you cant pray with an unclean body.

what nonsense, mohammad accept polytheism? u suffer from "moronism"

first abraham never had anything to do with the kabbah. this is muslim horseshiit

2. ayesha did kill the prophet because she was a jealous little brat who happened to cheat on mohammed one nite after he(mohammed) went to spend the nite with his brand new bride. rumours of her infidelity were already having the rumor mongers talking in downtown mecca. she did what she had to do and formed an alliance with Abu Bakr who eventually became the first Caliph of Islam afte mohammed's death and the killing of his nephew (who was supposed to be his annoited heir). This is the begining of the sunni vs shiite b.s. that has been going on for 1400yrs now.

3. Mohammed is not supposed to be anybody, he afterall is the prophet of God. Prophets in both the old and new testament performed miracles yours just hapopens to go to the mountain and catch clapp on the way.

4. Yes your flexible prophet at one point was hoodwinked to accept all religions in mecca and the kabbah as their shrine in return to be one of the town's administrator, something he gleefully agreed to only to find out it was used by the meccans to expose him as not being a prophet but a power hungry vermin. He was chased out of town with enough mockery. This is where the term satanic verses comes into mind were he (mohammed) declared afterwards that he was deceived by the devil.

adaybayor: what are you? i will only get you more and more confused...you better hope no catholic see this
i also know catholics are probably the most dominant of xtian sects.

what i have written is there for you to decipher if you can comprehend written text, you boko.

But this trinity trivial should be the least of your problems as muslims.

For example, why did Ayeesha kill the Prophet?

also why did Mohammed switch from Jerusalem to the location of a meteorite rock in a desolate desert?

Why did Mohammed accept polytheism only to say it was from the devil?

do you know that your prophet suffered from chronic gonorhea? thats why he bends down and piss and has to wash off that mucus or use a stick to get rid of it if there is no water.

The true trinity represents God (the Father), the Son (Jesus Christ) and the spirit (soul of man)

Metaphorically this represents the adoption of Jesus teachings of love , Jehovah as God and the soul of man.

adaybayor: i must say i appreciate that, so going by you xtians standard then your opinion shows you are not a good xtian

how can you be a xtian without accepting trinity? i know xtianity is polytheism

dont play st00pid. Christians believe in only one God through the teachings of Jesus Christ. Catholism was a mixed blend of pagan worship and early Christianity and was institutionalized as the Church of Rome after the conversion of the first Roman Catholic Pope, Constantinople.

adaybayor: oh i need a proper definition of the jehovah

then who is jesus?

why do you xtians say jesus is lord?

why do you xtians respect jesus more than you respect jehovah?


i need good and clear answers!!!

All Power is from God. God sent Jesus to save mankind. Christians know Jesus as an interceder for God and themselves and because He saved them. We pray and mention Jesus as Lord and not God which are totally two different things.
The trinity theory is from Catholism which isn't in my opinion have nothing to do with Christ and Christianity as it celebrates the image of the virgin mary above the body of Christ which is the church.

Now look at you...got me all preaching my grandma sermons to ya!

adaybayor: please do not modify this quote.....so who is the xtian god? has he a name?

Jehovah and HE is not the same as your allah

adaybayor: atleast, we are not hypocrites?

no one gets to my father except, through me.....yet you fools cant simply see that my "father" is above me and you take me for your "god"

what set of people can be more senseless?

who told you that xtian take Jesus as a God? and I will let you know that Jesus was mentioned 20 times more than mohammed in his quaran

adaybayor: you are doing a good job at making me see how senseless you are, how does scheming "translate" to "deceiving"? oh, actually i am supposed to let my enemy know my plan, now i know i actually under-estimated you $tupidity

and who by the way is the enemy? generally speaking the infidel? specifically speaking ; non muslims?

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

adaybayor: you are the one with worries

calm down jihad boy? no need to blow up shiit

adaybayor: what is it with christians? this is a letter which beyond doubt that all the atrocities being carried out in the name of islam are against its teachings and you people still wont stop talking rubbish

Your prophet proudly said in the Quaran that is okay to deceive the enemy in order to destroy it.

Today we have jihadist masquerading as playboys drinking partying hard to elude law enforcement officers

Here is a verse from your unholy quaran:

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers."

The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.

BetaThings: Bring statistics. We should not be afraid of facts
Anybody can pass judgement or make commentary

2013.01.11 (Pattani, Thailand) - A Muslim bomb aimed at teachers leaves two guards dead.

2013.01.10 (Abyan, Yemen) - al-Qaeda assassins shoot a mediator to death.

2013.01.10 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Over one-hundred people are massacred by two Lashkar-e-Jhangvi suicide blasts at a billiards hall in a Shiite area.

2013.01.10 (Mingora, Pakistan) - Thirty people are ripped to shreds by a Fedayeen suicide bomber at a rival preaching center.

2013.01.10 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Sunni bombers strike a bus stop in a Shia neighborhood, sending five residents to Allah.

2013.01.09 (Peshawar, Pakistan) - An influential Shia doctor is murdered outside his clinic by devoted Sunnis.

mmmustapha: Allah humma sali Ala Sahidina Muhammad (s.a.w) wasallam, La'ila ha illallah Muhammad Rasullullah Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam

wetin dey worry this one

tbaba1234: Fine, Now you admit your bias. You already have a conclusion before starting.

I would appreciate it if you do not insult the prophet.

I am no more bias than you if you can still claim mohammed as a prophet with all the evil that he did in his life time and that which continues to follow after him.

tbaba1234: I would say, I am right thinking and Intelligent (Alhamdulilah). I have studied the Quran to a decent degree and i am both intellectually and emotionally convinced of Islam.

I think you are too lazy to do proper research yourself.

Question: What authoritative muslim text have you read or studied?

I am not talking of anti-Islam websites research, I am talking of a proper research from the sources of Islam,

Mythbuster here... I just have to say that you are either a shill looking to start an unnecessary argument that your ilk will use to stage a demonstration by Monday in the hope of killing in the name of Allah.

But if that is not the case you still FAIL because we are not on the same intellectual plane to argue over what is obviously the most longest standing criminal enterprise to exist as a religion.
If Mohammed existed today he would have had the RICCO act thrown on him and had all of his fellow jihadist indicted on grand larceny, theft, rape , murder , extortion, human trafficking, kidnapping, conspiracy to engage in sexual misconduct with a minor, terrorism, and damn rite trolling!

tbaba1234: Please!!

People who go to anti-Islam sites for information about Islam are the worst kind. If i want to learn about christianity, i would go to a knowledgeable christian. When you are ill, do you go to an engineer??

Hadiths have varying levels of authencity and different contexts.... You need to understand the full context of a hadith before making conclusions about it. Spreading illiteracy and cheap lies are the aims of some of these sites. A person with a little knowledge would rebuke them easily.

What authoritative muslim text have you read?

how about the Quaran or any other book of Islam itself?

The Islamic world has given itself enough rope to hang itself from the life style of it's gluttonous, pedophille, robbing , raping prophet. The ever and present danger we are continuously meant to deal and live with in the hands of modern day jihadist is more than enough evidence beyound all sane and resonable doubt to say that your religion is not a religion of peace.

Take a look at the Islamic world and tell me one place that is considered a tourist destination apart from Dubai?

And finally, as a Christian, my own Prophet told me that He was the last and that several will come like wolf in sheep clothing proclaiming His name.

jamesbridget13: How i wish d inhabitants of this world can hear this n abide by it sure d world ll be a better place for us all regardless of our religion

This is part of the intricate myth of Islam.
Do you think for one second that the Islamic scholars and historians are not aware of this letter?

This was meant to be a political move to gain Christian alliance to which he (Mohammed) was rightfully turned down.
There are several hadiths (a hadith is a collection of memoirs of Mohammed gotten after his death by people close to him and postdates the Quaran) which call for the outright murder of christians and Jews.

In the beginning, Mohammed tried desperately hard to portray his religion similar to that of the Christians and Jews or the people of the Book as the polytheist Arabs described them.

Mohammed's Islam even prayed towards Jerusalem.

Why would Mohammed later switch to Mecca and also denounce all Jews and Christians as infidels?

The reason being that in the desolate landscape of Arabia (which the Romans and previous world powers neglected in their world conquest), the Jews and Christians were mainly the artisans and merchants. They were trusted among the all the Arab tribes. Mohammed's people back then were only aligned by family and clan ties outside of this you were fair game for whatsoever reason. The harsh desolate landscape was only good for rearing goats. Mecca was the prize just as it is till this day. Back then Mecca was also a religious tourist site for pagans and Jews alike. The pilgrimages to Mecca brought money to those who controlled Mecca.

Mohammed was well respected and trusted as a business man and his business trips had taken him to Jerusalem on more than one occasion to which He (Mohammed) would have been like going to Dubai.

He learnt most of what has become doctrine in the Quaran about the Judeo-Christian faith from word of mouth.

When He Mohammed challenged the residents of Mecca about their idolatry and pointed the way to a monotheist religion like that of the Christians and Jews he was mocked. He sought solace within the Jewish and Christian minority who after close scrutiny of his doctrine found out that he knew next to nothing about their faith.

The constant mockery by Meccan residents led to his so called flight. Mohammed's life wasn't in danger but his new career as a prophet was and as soon as he was invited by the Quarish tribes in Medina to come and arbitrate between them ( taking his reputation as a just man a rare thing in Arabia) he went to his new out post.

The residents of Medina will live to regret this as Mohammed used his current position in Medina to harass caravans destined for Mecca. This later led to a 30 day siege by an allied force destined to get rid of his banditry. The siege failed because a large force of Calvary was assembled in the barren desolate surroundings of Medina prior to which Mohammed had ordered an early harvest of vegetation surrounding the city. The horses and camels were dying and with little or no motivation the alliance brokeup and left. Mohammed will later roundup 600 -900 Jewish men and boys and slaughter them for the sake of appeasing his followers and also to help compensate them with the properties of the slain Jews.

For more info check this site out http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-home.htm