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Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by tintingz(m): 2:46pm On Jan 13, 2013
J12: Are you it was Muhammad that wrote that?
So who introduced Jihad?
and what do you know bout Jihad?
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by krisokuweh(m): 2:47pm On Jan 13, 2013
Pls am not against islam but nairaland always post gud tins abt islam n wnt to let us knw islam is gud. Tnk but how many post ve being posted taday abt christainity n no single gud story. Pls try n respect each religion n leave d people to comment on wat dey tink n not u trying to push d pple todays wat u ve painted gud n bad
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by zangbah: 2:49pm On Jan 13, 2013
every thing about islam is peace and mercy to all mankind, a muslim is a humam being like u who is subject to right or wrong doing. islam remain what it is when jesus, moh and other practise it. all thing could change but islam remain the way it was revealed to all prophet of GOD and islam is the only religious GOD has chosen for human being and quran is the only legislation of God available to us now
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by GhostFaceKiller: 2:49pm On Jan 13, 2013
In the beginning, Mohammed tried desperately hard to portray his religion similar to that of the Christians and Jews or the people of the Book as the polytheist Arabs described them.

Mohammed's Islam even prayed towards Jerusalem.

Why would Mohammed later switch to Mecca and also denounce all Jews and Christians as infidels?

The reason being that in the desolate landscape of Arabia (which the Romans and previous world powers neglected in their world conquest), the Jews and Christians were mainly the artisans and merchants. They were trusted among the all the Arab tribes. Mohammed's people back then were only aligned by family and clan ties outside of this you were fair game for whatsoever reason. The harsh desolate landscape was only good for rearing goats. Mecca was the prize just as it is till this day. Back then Mecca was also a religious tourist site for pagans and Jews alike. The pilgrimages to Mecca brought money to those who controlled Mecca.

Mohammed was well respected and trusted as a business man and his business trips had taken him to Jerusalem on more than one occasion to which He (Mohammed) would have been like going to Dubai.

He learnt most of what has become doctrine in the Quaran about the Judeo-Christian faith from word of mouth.

When He Mohammed challenged the residents of Mecca about their idolatry and pointed the way to a monotheist religion like that of the Christians and Jews he was mocked. He sought solace within the Jewish and Christian minority who after close scrutiny of his doctrine found out that he knew next to nothing about their faith.

The constant mockery by Meccan residents led to his so called flight. Mohammed's life wasn't in danger but his new career as a prophet was and as soon as he was invited by the Quarish tribes in Medina to come and arbitrate between them ( taking his reputation as a just man a rare thing in Arabia) he went to his new out post.

The residents of Medina will live to regret this as Mohammed used his current position in Medina to harass caravans destined for Mecca. This later led to a 30 day siege by an allied force destined to get rid of his banditry. The siege failed because a large force of Calvary was assembled in the barren desolate surroundings of Medina prior to which Mohammed had ordered an early harvest of vegetation surrounding the city. The horses and camels were dying and with little or no motivation the alliance brokeup and left. Mohammed will later roundup 600 -900 Jewish men and boys and slaughter them for the sake of appeasing his followers and also to help compensate them with the properties of the slain Jews.

For more info check this site out http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-home.htm
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by tintingz(m): 2:50pm On Jan 13, 2013
tbaba1234: It was narrated from ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Amr (may Allah be pleased with him) that The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever kills a mu‘aahid (a non-Muslim living under Muslim rule) will not smell the fragrance of Paradise, although its fragrance may be detected from a distance of forty years.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2995
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by BetaThings: 2:55pm On Jan 13, 2013
Ms_Steph: Islam is not d only religion we haff in d world. But me question is dat y r do they haff d highest number of terrorists. If u go to sum typical muslim villages nd shout jesus trust me dey will slaughter u there nd then. Even in muslim countries dey r always fighting nd killing dem selves. Sum of u will say its d illiterate 1ce dat r killing. Don't we haff christian or idle worshipers?? Do u see dem bombing or slaughtering pple around cos dey don't put their head on d ground?? Pls don't raise dis topic again cos u will cause more tension on nairaland
Do they?
When America used the CIA to bring down a government in Iran in 1952, was it terrorism?
Or the invasion of Vietnam to stop the spread of communism. Did it qualify?
And the invasion of iraq under false pretences. Was it terrorism

The people who fought the American occupation of Iraq were called "insurgents" and "terrorists"
When Germany occupied France, American supported the "Resistance" led by Charles de Gaulle who sabotaged rail lines, bridges, military installations.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by nollywood20: 2:58pm On Jan 13, 2013
[size=18pt]The Kaaba and pre-Islamic Mecca

Allah is an arabic word for one god and existed before Islam.
The Hijab and Burqa existed before Islam.


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In pre-Islamic days, that Muslims call the Days of ignorance, the religious background of the Arabs was pagan, and basically animistic. Through Moon, Sun, Stars, Planets, Animals, wells, trees, stones, caves, springs, and other natural objects man could make contact with the deity. At Mekka, Allah was the chief of the gods and the special deity of the Quraish, the prophets tribe. Allah had three daughters: Al Uzzah (Venus) most revered of all and pleased with human sacrifice; Manah, the goddess of destiny, and Al Lat, the goddess of vegetable life. These three daughters of Allah (there is a Quranic verse about them) were considered very powerful over all things. Therefore, their intercessions on behalf of their worshippers were of great significance.

On rituals, Encyclopedia of Islam (New Edition, s.v. Kaaba) states: It is incontrovertible that Islam took from the pagan Arabs an entire pre-Islamic ritual, previously steeped in paganism. This ritual is the veneration of and the pilgrimage to the Kaaba at Mecca. For the pre-Islamic Arabs, the Kaaba was the center of worship where the Jahilis prayed and went round it seven times. The Jahilis went on pilgrimage to the Kaaba once a year in Dhul-Hijja for a week, and they performed the Waqfa [standing in or stoppage at] on Mount Arafat (Al-Udhhri, 1991, 77). In their ritual, the Pre-Islamic pilgrims halted at Muzdalifa, stayed at Mina, made seven runs between Safa and the Marwah hills, sacrificed animals, and shaved their heads.They performed the lesser pilgrimage (Umrah) outside the month of Dhul-Hijja. Islam adopted the entire ritual. It recognized the Kaaba as the temple of God and the center of worship, retained the Black Stone, consecrated the Haram sanctuary, and ordered Muslims to perform the pilgrimage, if possible, once in a lifetime on the eighth day of the last month of the Islamic lunar year, Dhul-Hijja. Muslims today, like their pre-Islamic ancestors, circumambulate the Kaaba seven times, halt at Muzdalifa, stay at Mina, make seven runs between Safa and the Marwah hills, sacrifice animals, stone the devil, shave their heads, and wear a special simple garb. They perform the lesser pilgrimage (Umrah) outside the month of Dhul-Hijja, Islam has also in common with the pre-Islamic Arabs their belief in Jinn. The pre-Islamic Arabs were fully convinced, in the existence of shadowy, crafty, mischievous, even destructive beings called jinn (Watt and Bell, Introduction to the Quran, 1977, 153). While usually invisible, the jinn are capable of assuming forms of snakes, scorpions, lizards, and other creeping things or mad humans (Ibid.). Sura Al-Jinn (Quranic Chapter number 72, composed of 28 Verses), is dedicated to these spirits. Other parts of the Quran recognize Jinns existence: They link Him with jinn by lineage (37:158); that God created Jinn from fire (55:15), and that Jinns end, like mens, is to serve and worship God (51:56). The Quran reveals also that God sent messengers to Jinn and men (6:130), and teaches that Jinn may believe in God and His Holy Book: (72:1), as well as that Jinn may be unbelievers as well (6:130). Jinn promised that they will not Associate in worship any gods with our Lord (72:2).[/size]


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Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by BetaThings: 2:59pm On Jan 13, 2013
rafhell: this letter shows that muhammed was .
Proof of your assertion. Please do it the way we used to do to protect your OWN integrity and qualify for QED.
BTW so you believe that Boko Haram should disbelieve this letter and continue their senseless killing
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by jamesbridget13(f): 3:01pm On Jan 13, 2013
How i wish d inhabitants of this world can hear this n abide by it sure d world ll be a better place for us all regardless of our religion
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Nobody: 3:06pm On Jan 13, 2013
maclatunji: Have we not always told you that the problem we have in Nigeria is failure of Political leadership? However, I think some Christians prefer the picture of the Almajiri as the poster boys for Islam because it makes them feel better about themselves. Unfortunately, they are just helping to misinform already misinformed Children who do not know what Islam is all about with dire consequences of course.

Lesson: Do not spread hate of any individual or group lest that hate boomerangs to consume you. You can be firm and not tolerate depravity but do it for the purpose of maintaining law and order and not just for the reason of hate!
What is this one saying? Who is spreading hate in hearts of children if not some so called religious leaders who preach jihad and call other people infidels? Have u resolved the killings between shias and other sects? Who are not maintaining law and order? Oga,please your posts is directed at ur people. When a xtian convert 2 muslim,no shaking, but try otherwise and experience hatred,intolerance and persecution. My point is the happenings in mali,pakistan,india,tunisia,nigeria will never change the perception of we the "infidels" xtian,budha,traditionalists over muslims until we see a great impact of muslims against extremisms. No amount of online posts will make people accept u preach peace when actualy ur actions say otherwise. Sorry

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Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by GhostFaceKiller: 3:07pm On Jan 13, 2013
jamesbridget13: How i wish d inhabitants of this world can hear this n abide by it sure d world ll be a better place for us all regardless of our religion

This is part of the intricate myth of Islam.
Do you think for one second that the Islamic scholars and historians are not aware of this letter?

This was meant to be a political move to gain Christian alliance to which he (Mohammed) was rightfully turned down.
There are several hadiths (a hadith is a collection of memoirs of Mohammed gotten after his death by people close to him and postdates the Quaran) which call for the outright murder of christians and Jews.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by tintingz(m): 3:10pm On Jan 13, 2013
rafhell: this letter shows that muhammed was a deceiver, a liar and a covenant breaker.
and who wrote the letter?

Is like Bible Jesus is a law breaker...

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither
shall the children be put to
death for the father. Every man shall be put to death for his own sin.[Deuteronomy 24:16]


Since christian claim there father Jesus in bible died for their sins...what should we say to the scripture above commanded by God
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by goodmike7: 3:13pm On Jan 13, 2013
So mohammed says something different from what the quran says abi?

Keep deceiving urselves as muslim.

D quran says whoever is not a muslim is an infidel so why did mohammed contradict himself again ni?
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Nobody: 3:15pm On Jan 13, 2013
GhostFaceKiller:

This is part of the intricate myth of Islam.
Do you think for one second that the Islamic scholars and historians are not aware of this letter?

This was meant to be a political move to gain Christian alliance to which he (Mohammed) was rightfully turned down.
There are several hadiths (a hadith is a collection of memoirs of Mohammed gotten after his death by people close to him and postdates the Quaran) which call for the outright murder of christians and Jews.





the whole move by muhammed was a sham and a deceit to destroy the christians and the jews.if muhammed was truly this heartful why are his evil descendants this evil and murderously intolerant.
like we all know, the son of a camel is a camel. an orange tree can never yield mangoes.
they are all birds of thesame offshoot and feather. evil, murderous and satanic.
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by dustydee: 3:17pm On Jan 13, 2013
@Muslims in the house,
Why is the practice of any other religion prohibited in Saudi Arabia and some other Islamic countries? Will you, the true muslims, fight against this practice and advocate for the abolition of these "unislamic" act?

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Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Nobody: 3:17pm On Jan 13, 2013
tintingz: and who wrote the letter?

Is like Bible Jesus is a law breaker...

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither
shall the children be put to
death for the father. Every man shall be put to death for his own sin.[Deuteronomy 24:16]


Since christian claim there father Jesus in bible died for their sins...what should we say to the scripture above commanded by God

watch how you compare Jesus with muhammed. there is no comparison at all.
evil descendants of an evil master
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by tbaba1234: 3:18pm On Jan 13, 2013
GhostFaceKiller:

This is part of the intricate myth of Islam.
Do you think for one second that the Islamic scholars and historians are not aware of this letter?

This was meant to be a political move to gain Christian alliance to which he (Mohammed) was rightfully turned down.
There are several hadiths (a hadith is a collection of memoirs of Mohammed gotten after his death by people close to him and postdates the Quaran) which call for the outright murder of christians and Jews.

Please!!

People who go to anti-Islam sites for information about Islam are the worst kind. If i want to learn about christianity, i would go to a knowledgeable christian. When you are ill, do you go to an engineer??

Hadiths have varying levels of authencity and different contexts.... You need to understand the full context of a hadith before making conclusions about it. Spreading illiteracy and cheap lies are the aims of some of these sites. A person with a little knowledge would rebuke them easily.

What authoritative muslim text have you read?
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by nollywood20: 3:21pm On Jan 13, 2013
GhostFaceKiller:

This is part of the intricate myth of Islam.
Do you think for one second that the Islamic scholars and historians are not aware of this letter?

This was meant to be a political move to gain Christian alliance to which he (Mohammed) was rightfully turned down.
There are several hadiths (a hadith is a collection of memoirs of Mohammed gotten after his death by people close to him and postdates the Quaran) which call for the outright murder of christians and Jews.




[size=18pt]Thank you.

Many people are just too lazy to research and study to get the facts of history.
NO SINGLE RIGHT THINKING AND INTELLIGENT PERSON WILL BE A MUSLIM.[/size]

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Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jan 13, 2013
maclatunji: Have we not always told you that the problem we have in Nigeria is failure of Political leadership? However, I think some Christians prefer the picture of the Almajiri as the poster boys for Islam because it makes them feel better about themselves. Unfortunately, they are just helping to misinform already misinformed Children who do not know what Islam is all about with dire consequences of course.

Lesson: Do not spread hate of any individual or group lest that hate boomerangs to consume you. You can be firm and not tolerate depravity but do it for the purpose of maintaining law and order and not just for the reason of hate!

and the problem in Mali, Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Egypt?
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by tbaba1234: 3:22pm On Jan 13, 2013
goodmike7: So mohammed says something different from what the quran says abi?

Keep deceiving urselves as muslim.

D quran says whoever is not a muslim is an infidel so why did mohammed contradict himself again ni?

Do yourself a favour:::

Read the translated Quran in Pdf for yourself : http://asadullahali.files./2010/09/the_quran.pdf
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jan 13, 2013
why is muhammed associated with only war, killings and savagery. what is the difference between him and people like osama bin laden and other muslim villains
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by GhostFaceKiller: 3:24pm On Jan 13, 2013
tbaba1234:

Please!!

People who go to anti-Islam sites for information about Islam are the worst kind. If i want to learn about christianity, i would go to a knowledgeable christian. When you are ill, do you go to an engineer??

Hadiths have varying levels of authencity and different contexts.... You need to understand the full context of a hadith before making conclusions about it. Spreading illiteracy and cheap lies are the aims of some of these sites. A person with a little knowledge would rebuke them easily.

What authoritative muslim text have you read?


how about the Quaran or any other book of Islam itself?

The Islamic world has given itself enough rope to hang itself from the life style of it's gluttonous, pedophille, robbing , raping prophet. The ever and present danger we are continuously meant to deal and live with in the hands of modern day jihadist is more than enough evidence beyound all sane and resonable doubt to say that your religion is not a religion of peace.

Take a look at the Islamic world and tell me one place that is considered a tourist destination apart from Dubai?

And finally, as a Christian, my own Prophet told me that He was the last and that several will come like wolf in sheep clothing proclaiming His name.
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Nobody: 3:25pm On Jan 13, 2013
tbaba1234:

Please!!

People who go to anti-Islam sites for information about Islam are the worst kind. If i want to learn about christianity, i would go to a knowledgeable christian. When you are ill, do you go to an engineer??

Hadiths have varying levels of authencity and different contexts.... You need to understand the full context of a hadith before making conclusions about it. Spreading illiteracy and cheap lies are the aims of some of these sites. A person with a little knowledge would rebuke them easily.

What authoritative muslim text have you read?


Is he really spreading "illiteracy" or simply commenting on OBVIOUS FACTS? You can pretend all you want but the facts are that the only country where arabs are relatively free = Israel and countries with relatively large muslim populations are a haven of terror, death and destruction. Quoting hadiths is useless.
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by tintingz(m): 3:27pm On Jan 13, 2013
rafhell:

watch how you compare Jesus with muhammed. there is no comparison at all.
evil descendants of an evil master
lol...you didnt explain that scripture...christians are the law breaker cuz Jesus in the bible didnt condemn the law before him smiley

I can never and will not compare Jesus and Mohammed(pbuh) cuz both are prophet from Allah smiley

But remember Jesus said to peter in the bible get behind me satan grin
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Nobody: 3:27pm On Jan 13, 2013
BetaThings:
Do they?
When America used the CIA to bring down a government in Iran in 1952, is it terrorism?
Or the invasion of Vietnam to stop the spread of communism. Does it qualify?
And the invasion of iraq under false pretences. Is it terrorism

The people who fought the American occupation of Iraq were called "insurgents" and "terrorists"
When Germany occupied France, American supported the "Resistance" led by Charles de Gaulle who sabotaged rail lines, bridges, military installations.
. Ur saying a diff tin
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by GhostFaceKiller: 3:27pm On Jan 13, 2013
And by the way why are you posting this here OP?
I know that Islam section proudly declares the section for Muslims only and that even the Mods are Muslims.

Please take this your unholy garbage out of my sunday
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by tbaba1234: 3:27pm On Jan 13, 2013
nollywood20:

[size=18pt]Thank you.

Many people are just too lazy to research and study to get the facts of history.
NO SINGLE RIGHT THINKING AND INTELLIGENT PERSON WILL BE A MUSLIM.[/size]

I would say, I am right thinking and Intelligent (Alhamdulilah). I have studied the Quran to a decent degree and i am both intellectually and emotionally convinced of Islam.

I think you are too lazy to do proper research yourself.

Question: What authoritative muslim text have you read or studied?

I am not talking of anti-Islam websites research, I am talking of a proper research from the sources of Islam,

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Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jan 13, 2013
economia: Give me the refference in the Quran. I an thought not to belive any man by only his but by both his wordr and his action. Jesus talked more on peaceful living and when faced with circumstances to be violent, he prefer to surfer and die. He said he is powerful enough to call down amy of angel to fight, enven Peter one of His desciples brought out sword an defended the noble couse, Jesus rebuked Peter for doing so. But in contrary, Mohammed gave more admonision on peace than any man who both dead or alive, but will take out peace of every community he visited even if they have peace b4.
How can some1 preach PEACE and yet SLAUGHTER people who do not accept his teaching? By their fruits you shall knw them. How many people were killed by Jesus? How many did muhammed killed? An honest answer is enough. If u prove u are peaceful,please show it in your actions so the world will be a better place. Thanks
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by GhostFaceKiller: 3:35pm On Jan 13, 2013
tbaba1234:

I would say, I am right thinking and Intelligent (Alhamdulilah). I have studied the Quran to a decent degree and i am both intellectually and emotionally convinced of Islam.

I think you are too lazy to do proper research yourself.

Question: What authoritative muslim text have you read or studied?

I am not talking of anti-Islam websites research, I am talking of a proper research from the sources of Islam,

Mythbuster here... I just have to say that you are either a shill looking to start an unnecessary argument that your ilk will use to stage a demonstration by Monday in the hope of killing in the name of Allah.

But if that is not the case you still FAIL because we are not on the same intellectual plane to argue over what is obviously the most longest standing criminal enterprise to exist as a religion.
If Mohammed existed today he would have had the RICCO act thrown on him and had all of his fellow jihadist indicted on grand larceny, theft, rape , murder , extortion, human trafficking, kidnapping, conspiracy to engage in sexual misconduct with a minor, terrorism, and damn rite trolling!
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by tbaba1234: 3:35pm On Jan 13, 2013
GhostFaceKiller:

how about the Quaran or any other book of Islam itself?

The Islamic world has given itself enough rope to hang itself from the life style of it's prophet. The ever and present danger we are continuously meant to deal and live with in the hands of modern day jihadist is more than enough evidence beyound all sane and resonable doubt to say that your religion is not a religion of peace.

Take a look at the Islamic world and tell me one place that is considered a tourist destination apart from Dubai?

And finally, as a Christian, my own Prophet told me that He was the last and that several will come like wolf in sheep clothing proclaiming His name.

Fine, Now you admit your bias. You already have a conclusion before starting.

I would appreciate it if you do not insult the prophet.
Re: Prophet Muhammad's Letter To The Monks Of St. Catherine Monastery by Truckpusher(m): 3:35pm On Jan 13, 2013
cogitoErgo: I tnk dis s anoda NL dilusion! Does dis document realy exist? Den y do muslims kill christians, burn and loot churches, especialy n northern nigeria? I tnk all most islamic leaders n northern nigeria are headng straigt fo hell, fo misguidng dere folowers
they've been lied to for a very long time just the way Christians are being lied to all the time by their pastors to do what is against God's will as long as they attend churches

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