CraigB:

Obasanjo was a soldier and according to the below, he was also a military leader.

Our point exactly.


Olusegun Obasanjo, (born March 5, 1937, Abeokuta, Nigeria), Nigerian general, politician, and diplomat, who was the first military leader in Africa to hand over power to civilian rule. He served as ruler of Nigeria (1976–79) and as president (1999–2007).

He was a soldier. GEJ? Not really.

Mike..ZA:
Let's talk about "military stuff",can we? And please stop showing your stupidity,by this profanity.

CraigB:

Obasanjo was a soldier.

souldust: @andrew although he is the first civilian president to put it on but we have no problems with GEJ wearing the military uniform. You can see the service chiefs by his side and they seem not to have problems with it. You dont claim to know more than our service chiefs, do you? Do you think he used force to make them decorate him in military colours? I know you guys dont think very highly of us. What reasons you have for that, i dont know.

souldust: ajuwaiya! ajuwaiya!! Confirm your position, over!

CraigB:

That your response was calm is irrelevant. You were asked (in response to your comment) where your weapons were when Boko H killed people. You couldn't answer. So you decided to talk about crime.

Now you omit to mention your post, which started it all. You should've simply answered Mike's question, which you asked for anyway.

Mike..ZA:
Are they kept as a secret or they're put in long term storage?

Seems you are rabblerousing ... possibly looking for a blowout like we've had many times over. Nigeria is actively involved and engaged with all weapons and hardware deployed to suite the field operations. SANDF's Gripens will remain in the freezer for a long time to come while we maximise use of all the above listed for success as usual.

Mike..ZA: But even when you "engaged all your weapons",boko haram still manages to terrify your citizens. If the SANDF was heavily engaged like you guys,new awesome weapons might be fielded.

CraigB:

If you need to go, go. Don't point to things that don't exist.

Mike..ZA:
But even when you "engaged all your weapons",boko haram still manages to terrify your citizens. If the SANDF was heavily engaged like you guys,new awesome weapons might be fielded.

South Africans and their warped sense of reasoning! It's more like asking where your SANDF has been with all the Rhinos in your National Parks being dehorned by Chinese poachers inside South Africa. With all your shiny weapons yet brutal crime is still the best hobby in all of South Africa? Stop playing silly games!

Please be useful to yourself.

Again your stupidity is a problem and your brain needs to be checked. Ask your SANDF where they were last weekend when over 44 people were murdered in Cape Town by gangs of the Cape Flats? Please don't overdo yourself.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/44-killed-in-bloody-Cape-Town-weekend-20130702

Mike..ZA help yourself.

So what would you say is the hobby of most Nigerians.

Ask your brother Mike..ZA. But then why must you South Africans point out problems of Boko Haram terrorists yet feel offended when we point you to your own seriously embedded problem of brutal crimes in your beautiful South Africa? Like I said ... please don't start something you can't finish.

Can you imagine with all these problems we have with our own, Nigerians are doing the same in Banoni. The military should surely get involved, cause this looks like an invasion by Biafrans, Hillbrow, Sunnyside, now Banoni.

Petty talk. You can do better! Use your God-given brain ...

My name sure tastes sweet in your mouth huh?.well I'm here to finish anything I might have started,which is getting to shut up cause you talk rubbish.

andrewza:

Zuma did not wish to appear has a imperialist force hence the light footprint of the SANDF force in CAr

zetdee:

Can you imagine with all these problems we have with our own, Nigerians are doing the same in Banoni. The military should surely get involved, cause this looks like an invasion by Biafrans, Hillbrow, Sunnyside, now Banoni.

zetdee:

So what would you say is the hobby of most Nigerians.

Mike..ZA:
I might as well ask,where were this weapons last night when BH massacred those innocent weapons? ;DI might as well ask,where were this weapons last night when BH massacred those innocent students?

Mike..ZA:
But even when you "engaged all your weapons",boko haram still manages to terrify your citizens. If the SANDF was heavily engaged like you guys,new awesome weapons might be fielded.

Mike..ZA:
Are they kept as a secret or they're put in long term storage?

Mike..ZA:
Can this armoured fighting vehicle,take on its South African counterpart the Rooikat in combat?

Hezron Lorraine: Been too busy on NL and forgot to make mention of somethings.
There's still something fishy about the ryg guy.
First of,I was made to know that he's sending some encrypted messages to someone in Lagos.as at yesterday,he gave location of RYG to be in Gwer East,Benue state(longitude 7 •47' and 10•0'East,Latitude 6•28' and 8•0 ,North).
My bro tried checking for Numan Joseph Edwin and Augustine Vunomgabai.
He couldn't access NAF records without raising eyebrow from his boss cause he needs permission to run it through a senior source.
As at 2am.the connection on RYG's device went off.came back at 4.by 9am this morn,another set of encrypted message was sent,but this time,location was put at Iddo,lagos,the message was sent to someone in CBD,abuja.
Still following up,at precisely 1:40.connection went dead.by 2,location is Benue.
Seems someone is playing some serious games here and knows how to pull some stunts.
I know for sure that no federal security agent will expose a fellow member(aug) and they wouldn't come with a username that can be suspicious like RedYellowGreen.
Why this man decided to make use of nairaland open discussion to warn someone off is baffling,cause things are not what we see.

andrewza:

AndrewZA = normal font
GidiNaijaPIkin = Bold font


And the fact goodluck wears a uniform when he goes on a parade makes him on the expert on the military, By monday we add deployed a infantry battalion and air support and if it were not for the french they would have been deployed into CAR that does not sound disorganised to me, the german army has a union and What orders were flouted?

[b]
Now you are stretching your initial question by some more kilometers. Listen! No one is talking about expertise. But if you want to talk about that, I think President Jonathan has better expertise than Zuma given all the military situation reports and briefings he receives regularly from our ever-busy Armed Forces engaged in operations around the continent and beyond. Even the greatest army generals that ever lived depended on expert advise from field commanders, war planners and subordinates. To the best of my knowledge, President Goodluck Jonathan and every other Nigerian leader before him have done a better job in the sphere of military decision making than your President Zuma, Mbeki and Mandela combined. Also, no president in democratic South Africa has been quite decisive and bold enough to command his army successfully to war on different fronts. What Zuma has not been able to achieve militarily... President Jonathan has achieved ... and continues to take our military to greater heights. That is why his uniform cannot be wished away by anyone! It is President Jonathans constitutional entitlement whether you like it or not!

We don't give excuses, we take charge of matters without looking back or blaming anyone. Stop blaming the Freanch!! South Africa will always find something negative to say about the French. You'll learn a lot by manning-up to your failure in CAR because honesty is the best policy. You know how Lindiwe Sisulu handled the violent rebellion by your lazy unionized soldiers? Your highly disorganised and disgraced SANDF are a recipe for mutiny in the ranks no matter how much you continue to "bash" French. The flouted orders not to rebel or embark on picketing and striking violently [/b]


O i trust our president but you have to earn the privilege to wear a uniform, and unless you in the military you don't have that privilege. Since you can not stand for office has a member of the SANDF no SA president will wear our uniform. You see SA is a true democracy were the military accept civilian control and does not need our president to play dress up for us to listen to him.


Liar! Majority of South Africans hate and do not trust Jacob Zuma and have even accused him of sending SANDF troops to CAR for personal business gains. Jonathan as Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces of Nigeria is a member of the military and will wear the uniform as and when he needs to. Nigeria's democracy raises the bar further by ensuring total respect for civilian rule/command. Obiviously Zuma is not worthy of wearing SANDF uniform ... and looking at SANDF's recent CAR disgrace do you still think that SANDF's uniform is worth wearing by any one (including Zuma)? Don't kill yourself about Jonathan's nice uniform please...

andrewza:

did you miss the part where i said paramilitary have military training?

I am glade zuma is not.

andrewza:

Paramilitary does not fall under the state military, hence they are not military. They security units with military training.

andrewza:

Trust me these are questions soldiers ask. He is a civilian and should not be entitled to wear uniform.

And paramilitary is not military

andrewza:

Trust me these are questions soldiers ask. He is a civilian and should not be entitled to wear uniform.

And paramilitary is not military

andrewza:

Did he ever do BMT, Officer training or do anything that qualifies him as a soldier. He may be commander in chief but he is not military.

andrewza:

why is he wearing a uniform.

andrewza:

why is he wearing a uniform.

Hezron Lorraine: you know you don't have to offend some people b4 they plan to destroy you.
Abeg,I'm going on a long vacation from this thread.I'll sit on the sidelines and observe.
Now,they say whatever you say online can land you in jail.enjoy the thread y'all.