Hello Hisservant is it not the same bible that says thou should not judge or who are you to judge another man's servant. To me pastor Chris is never a fraudster

Rhino.3dm:

My bad how can i miss this.
It makes me understand that simply because i dont believe in something doesnt mean its not real and my free will and ability to make good or bad decision, selection will definately speak against me if am caught up in this line. Spritually

. . . But scientifically i still cant figure out how an aerodynamic object of that size can be self propell and what if there is an alien threat? Are those objects manned or they are some mini drones or intellignt ariel vehicles? What if they are secret spy planes or objects or black magic, voodoo, witch craft? Thise questions keep on popping in on my mind daily. . .

Venire dentro.

andyanders:

IT IS OBASANJO'S WICKEDNESS THAT IS HOLDING AL MUSTAPHA. NOTHING. OBJ IS A WICKED MAN. HE HAS NO FORGIVENESS IN HIS PERSON.

nakedall:

Too many unserious elements in this country.

gadogado:

have you been able to prove he murdered anybody?? if not, let him go because his continued detention is illegal since he's not serving a sentence.

Echidime:

Al Mustapha is innocent,he did nothing,was only carrying out his duty on instruction from his former bose

[size=8pt]Born Again Bankers[/size]
It is fast becoming the norm rather than exception. Church services in banks. Its organisers say it is meant to blend the business of banking with spirituality. Chidi 'Uzor looks at the patrons. Additional reports by Malachy Agbo

It came like a wild fire. Almost every bank had its own fellowship and very soon it was growing like fire. Before then it was not fashionable for bank chief executives to show off as born again Christians. It was not expected of them for at the time, top bank chief executives and indeed other professionals were not to identify with the "lazy lots" as they were thought to be.

It all started with the wholesale bank failures in the 1990s. Banks considered to be run by the cream deal cream of the banking industry collapsed like a pack of cards. To worsen it, the chairmen, chief executives and top management staff were clamped into prison. The confidence of men failed them and after a serious x-ray of the events those who still remained thought that it was not by the power of any man that an institution such as a bank could be run. They believed that they needed a superior hand to excel and to keep this almighty hand ever ready to assist, many dived into the waters called bornagainism.

Rev Segun Agbetuyi
A pioneer of this move, Agbetuyi does not hide the fact that from the word go, he had the best of life. "I mean the best of life". He was a lecturer, and consultant to many banks. He had believed that the world was at his feet. He had also believed that he was a super brain who could pontificate on almost every matter. Because of his confidence, he did not blink when he was called upon to rescue the ailing Omega bank. Omega Bank was then owned by Ondo and Ekiti States and the dwindling fortunes of the bank was seen as the fall of a legacy left by Papa Michael Ajasin, the first executive Governor of Ondo State.

"But I didn't know that I could not assess the enormity of the problem from outside. I was face to face with failure. And I went to God". This is the story, Agbatuyi is willing to tell any listener who is willing to hear his story about Owena bank. During his visit to THISDAY when the bank was about changing its name, he said that the first thing he did was to change the orientation of the bank staff and directed them towards God. On Thursdays, when the bank holds its in-house fellowship, it was difficult to differentiate between the bank in Owena and the church in Owena. Mr. Agbatuyi has added another feather to his spiritual cap. Undone with just being a member of the laity, he went for the jocular. He is an ordained reverend of Our Saviour's church, Tafawa Balewa, where he gives out the Holy Sacrament. These days the man has become so pious that one cannot help imagine what the man is still doing in the rough waters called banking, where currency trafficking, forex trading, low support to genuine business men rule the clime. He thinks otherwise. "It is the right time for people of God to take over in this land and show the love of God abroad", he states. Ever had of the gathering of eagles?

Chika Mbonu
Chika Mbonu is currently the Managing Director and Chief Executive of the newly acquired Assurance Bank. Many do not identify Mr. Mbonu with this new wave. But unknown to many, he is indeed an Associate Pastor at the City of David Parish of the Redeemed Christian Church of God. Mbonu is not new to the banking world. Before his present position, he was Managing Director and Chief Executive of Citizens Bank.

Because he does not flaunt his bornagainism so much, not many actually see him so much in this light. There are indications however, that the new look Assurance Bank may be his major opportunity to showcase his spiritual connection.

Cecilia Ibru
Mrs. Ibru's story sounds similar to that of Agbetuyi. Oceanic Bank which is a member of the family's empire was in distress. There was a managing director but Mrs. Ibru was the chief operating officer. She had the singular target of rescuing the bank from its decadence. She tells of moments when she would not know the next thing to do. She would go to God in prayer. From that state of comatose, the bank came alive and Mrs. Ibru today seats atop the bank as its Managing Director and Chief Executive officer. For her, all she has done today is by the saving Grace of her lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. Mrs. Ibru holds daily and weekly fellowships in the bank headquarters where she is in charge. But most prominently is the banks annual carol and thanksgiving services. She is a very respected member of Redeemed Christian Church of God.

Yinka Obalade
Yinka Obalade is the managing director and chief executive of Global Bank plc. Mr. Obalade is a deacon at the New Estate Baptist Church, where he is a deacon. He preaches to his flock every Sunday. He also does not spare opportunities to spread the gospel in his bank and other meetings of his friends and colleagues. He is the banking John the Baptist as he urges his friends to repent as the Kingdom of God is at hand. Is this also extended to banking business?

Erastus Akingbola
He is the tzar at Intercontinental Bank. Erastus who grew from the cradles in his banking career, aids say recognises the turbulent moments he has passed through and believes that it is only God that could have been able to take a man from such lowly positions to the pinnacle of his career. He has also instituted worship centres in his bank and makes it a way of life. Has that addressed fraud too?

Mr. Lemo Babantunde
He is a member of the born again chief executives. He tells anybody who cares to listen that he is not only Wema bank chief executive, but a servant in His Vine Yard. He is a deacon. And to show you what type of stuff he is made of, he welcomes his visitors with a horde of tracts which he distributes very freely. His aids say he enjoys biblical counseling as he enjoys his banking activities. He keeps heaps of tracts which he gives out very generously. Many may argue that does not produce huge profits. But the man has his balance sheet to show for his performance and leaves you with the judgment. And if he would have relented, his performance has even increased his faith and so he has scheduled every Friday as worship time for the bank staff. But has this stopped pretense?

Ben Akabueze
Mr. Akabueze is a pastor at the City of David Parish and holds forte at NAL Bank plaza. He organises fellowship in his office on Thursdays at 6pm. That is a march between his spiritual duty to bring men to Christ and his circular job of making profit for his shareholders. The mix is important to him because he misses the spiritual duty, he might lose his Grace, but if he does not make profit, he is fired by his employers. One pastime Akubueze indulges more frequently is the education of Christian men and women on economic management and doing business as Christians. Has the bank imbibed this attitude?

Shola Adeoti
Shola Adeoti belongs to the class of people Pastor Adeboye will always refer to as my daughter in the Lord. Even Shola's father, Chief Samuel Adedoyin acknowledges that his daughter is a class of her own in spiritual matters. She was the first to take the branch of her bank to Redeemed Camp not withstanding the marketing implications of such a move. The place is neither a market, nor a major business area. It mainly comes alive once every month. But faith has no bounds, and one may not be surprised to discover that that may be one of the bank's flourishing branches.

What is this for?
This is one question that occupies the minds of many. Is it a genuine desire to do things right? Or does it go with the proliferation of churches and mosques, yet more criminals. As more bankers and banking professionals become more religious, the question many ask is, do more banks lend to the real sector to stimulate this economy; do they now abide by the banking bible, Banks, and other Financial Institutions Act which provides for DOS and don'ts in the area. Do banks now keep away from sharp practices which the Nigerian scene is known for? But one good pointer, non of the banks managed by these men and women were sanctioned last year for sharp practices. Is this the beginning of sanity?

The dangers ahead?
There is one major problem that these banks may be facing right now or in the future. The major one is the possibility of acting. Because the expectations of chief executives are almost known, the staff will be falling over themselves to out perform others in showing that they love God more than the MDs. Just to curry favour. Beware of the wolves in sheep skin.

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[b]I make [/b]the most laughable and demented post in nairaland Embarrassed Huh Cry

What [b]do I [/b]carry in this head for a brain?!

He has confirmed my worst fears. He's deranged. So sorry G.

Holla!

precap2:

He'd rather have Akingbola pronounced guilty until proven innocent, but wouldn't accept that when he despoiled his younger sis.

precap2:

Akingbola already owned and managed this bank for over 10 years before he went public and afforded this your friend an opportunity to invest his meager crumb. Now he wants to stand on that crumb and pontificate on where Akingbola got the monies that he donated to church, if he really donated all that is claimed anyway.

precap2:

T[b]hat Pst. Adeboye did not see it means that Akingbola did not steal. Simple![/b]
It doesn't matter who wants to hang himself over peanut investment.

Holla!

precap2:

Tired of trying to bring dumb jack out of sh!thole. 
I quit with this guy, let another try to brush him up

Holla!

precap2:

I bought the shares to keep because I believe the corporation is good. I still intend to keep it and I'm not complaining. That's the difference. You were accusing Akingbola in your case and I'm not accusing anyone because I made the decision to buy for keeps.

precap2:

I think your biggest problem is that you want to steer this discussion into religious comparison and no one is giving you the chance. You still won't have the chance. If you need to discuss religious business leaders, join another thread or start one

Holla!

debosky:

I have never accepted it as 'normal', but I am no longer naive enough to think that simply being a pastor means you can't be engaged in fraud. That is the sad reality of things. I do not tolerate such behaviour in any form, but at the same time, I will not participate in condemning individuals without due process and hearing their side of the matter.

Pastors should be above board, but the bible also advises us to be wise - don't follow blindly expecting the title of 'pastor' will remove any risk of corruption.

If he is indeed guilty, there will be lots of time to condemn him - I see nothing wrong in letting the process of accusation/trial/prosecution take its course before passing judgement. The haste to not only condemn the man, but more importantly link his corruption to RCCG when no such evidence exists is unacceptable to me.

precap2:

He will die in his mistakes
Running from the law? Which law? Was it not the same law that was going to pronounce Nuhu Ribadu guilty, but after he ran away the law said he did nothing wrong. There are no laws only crazy humans like you. The "law" becomes what these crazy !d!ots want it to become.

Holla1

The guy is very hard of hearing and that's the bane of everything he's doing.
Lion Bank was Managed 100% by Muslims, even their staff was more than 80% Muslims and yet where is Lion Bank today? It's not about religion, it's about time and chance in making good decision. I have the shares of AIG (America International Group), and the management was one of the best, yet they failed in their decisions and my shares lost 80% in less than 6 months. Did you notice that America bailed out Citi Group with tax payer's money? CitiBank management failed and they didn't ask the CEO to return his Ferari Enzo.
Wake up oga investor.

precap2:

This guy is very boring
Why don't you leave the forum and return to your vulcanizing shop?

Holla!

Again, I repeat INVESTMENTS based on religious sentiment is tantamount to throwing money away. I wouldn't allow a 'Christian' to operate on me if he was not a qualified doctor so why would I let that sway a financial investment?  Huh His religion is immaterial to a judgement of his professional capability.

This is the religious section yes, but we are not doing a 'compare and contrast' between Muslim bank managers and Christian ones as your post alludes. In terms of 'expecting' fraud, I expect the worst - previous experience has shown that being called 'Pastor' is not synonymous with being a good manager.

You just joined NL and your first few posts are this smelly. You rant endlessly and got corrected then you lost your mind. Are you always like this?

Did you read the prospectus that told you you could lose money as well?  Huh

You have no leg to stand on - you invested your money and lost it, not under any compulsion but by your free will. Feel free to demonise who you wish.

So what? Is religion now the basis for investments?

RBS, HBOS and other banks nearly went belly up too - were they also a result of morning devotions?  Huh You are making some poorly thought out conclusions here - making any link between religion and investments is a serious error of judgement.

This is not a matter of standards - anyone can come out and make 'accusations' - till those accusations are established as facts, we are all just engaging in debating conjecture.

Anyone making an investment on religious basis is a fool waiting to be parted from his money.

tkb417:

didnt get nothn from all he posted

he invested in ICB and lost money? hehehe

how he lost money i dunno cos he was supposed not to be a 'speculator'

my investment 101 tells me, a speculator is someone who buys to spot economic gains and sell

This foolish man [/b]sold when he was supposed to keep and kept when he was supposed to sell

hehehehehe
[b]foolish man indeed


They still grant access to little children in nairaland go figure what your Christ said will happen to you for what you posted

lmao

precap2:

After the long ranting, what's your point. Please be brief and to the point.

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Lord_Reed:

Alot of u here have relatives, friends n associates in government positions n so on who give u money n favours how many of u reject them? Please!

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Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering?
« #200 on: July 22, 2010, 07:09 PM »

Can I ask a rather silly question here,

Do we have anybody on this forum who has money deposited at Intercontinetal and Oceanic and have not been able to get their money out?

I keep hearing this Akingbola and Ibru stole people's deposit, do we have anyone here who have not been able to get their money out of these banks?

axeman85:

In lagos older cars require road worthiness and newer ones MOT , is very important ooo otherwise if you fall into the hands of V. I. o then be ready to pay a fine of 5k as i was a victim of them 2weeks ago.

noetic16:

your conclusions though ignorant reflect your inability to entertain new truths and revelation. I am not interested in a debate. There is going to be a rapture.

On a side note . . . Let me state that after reading several resources on rapture, I became confused, So I asked God and I received an answer. I am satisfied with the answer I received. There is going to be a rapture and a lot of church-going folks will be disappointed.

noetic16:

do u expect me to give evidences or arguments for the rapture? do u expect me to convince u of the rapture?
I am not interested in doing so.