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PoliticsRe: President Buhari Suspends EndSARS Protests Nationwide by Gilbertkwabena(m): 8:32pm On Oct 22, 2020
THE earlier we all come to the knowledge of truth the better.

Buhari is either dead or seriously in a critical condition and only the top people knows about this and they dare not talk.

The Hausa elites has all the politicians in their pocket... They don't represent us but themlseves... Its time we demand for our country, let Nigeria be splitted.

There has never been one Nigeria, the only people enjoying one Nigeria is the Hausa's. Time to hold on our destiny ourselves.
PoliticsRe: Hold Aisha Yesufu, Falz Responsible by Gilbertkwabena(m): 7:35pm On Oct 22, 2020
Proudlyngwa:
It is unfortunate that a peaceful protest has degenerated into this.

Unfortunately the protest since lost relevance and has rebirthed from civil disobedience to rebellion.

Where did it go wrong, Nigerians altitude of not applying technicalities to anything they are doing, not knowing when something has started going wrong and withdrawing and finally pride.

They should have asked the peaceful protesters to go home while the government attended to Thier request but no, they were enjoying the euphoria.
Now it has gone beyond them.

I beseige the protesters to go home and full martial law declared on anybody seen outside.

Enough is enough
Protesters have taken over oilmill eleme junction port Harcourt and it has turned a full tribal war.
Guys another paid person to cause wahala. People be weary of these people. They have been paid to spread rumors and steer d public.
PoliticsRe: Rivers: Properties That Belong To Our Northern Brothers Are Been Burnt by Gilbertkwabena(m): 7:31pm On Oct 22, 2020
blamingthedevil:
This is rivers state. Properties that belong to our northern brothers are been burnt by the so-called peaceful protesters.
This is pathetic
Lols.

Another fake news. People please be weary of these guys. They have been paid to flood all social media with fake news.

What properties does a northerner has outside northern places? If there are many a few... Those with most properties outside their States are the Igbo's nd they're been killed in Abuja right now.
PoliticsRe: Former OC Sars Awkuzu Was Captured And Beaten Mercilessly In Ghana (Video/Pics) by Gilbertkwabena(m): 7:29pm On Oct 22, 2020
healthgadgetsng:
Former OC Sars Awkuzu Was Captured and beaten mercilessly in Ghana

See Video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWxIfQbVdv8

Lalasticlala
Mynd44
Fake news am In Ghana and nothing like this happened.

This poster might be one the agents sent to spread fake news around. There many of them now.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 2:12pm On Oct 15, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
Wao!!!! one other reason ure easily deceived. You can't comprehend simple explanation as this.

My argument is simple, religion was created to separate us, control us and to keep stupid as we see today. I gave a clear example by telling u to look around you in Nigeria(Africa as whole self) and check which other thing European brought for has progressed so far other than religion? None... religion is the only thing that is progressing in all the things European brought us.... name them....school,politics,industries,etc are all failure except religion.

And now I ask you, if religion is a goof thing for us, why is our lives and nation the worst nation on the continent of world? If religion was a good thing for us.... how come theres no development in our life's and nation I ask again?


That's it.... the purpose of religion has been achieved. To keep people poor(letting them expect some useless comfort in heaven so they shouldn't worry about earth), to separate us(Christians are no friends of Muslims nd vice versa.... always fighting nd killing each other), Made us lost our heritage and history(no other tribe in d world lost theirs except us), to control us(also obvious.. many ppl are under serious mental slavery) and finally to keep us stupid(its also obvious....


So this is what am interpreting when I said religion is the only thing progressing.... and the more it progress the more our nation becomes miserable... the more religion progress the more the ppl suffers, becomes stupid and finally leave in war and sorrow.

Imagine how life would have look at if we are following "everything"_ the bible or Quran teaches.... lols, you and I would have been a slave today, Muslims nd Christians would have killed everyone in d world BCUZ ur religion teaches so.... If it wasn't for people who thought outside religion... your life would have been more miserable than you can imagine.




If u read dis nd still argue with this facts... that's stupidity.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 2:10pm On Oct 15, 2020
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Someone said "tell me what sector or industry is progressing in Nigeria other than religion. School(f9),Politics,industries,infrastructure etc are all f9.... the only A1 is religion"
Do you know that person? Religion does not fit in, but yet is progressing according to that person.
Circled circles.
Wao!!!! one other reason ure easily deceived. You can't comprehend simple explanation as this.

My argument is simple, religion was created to separate us, control us and to keep stupid as we see today. I gave a clear example by telling u to look around you in Nigeria(Africa as whole self) and check which other thing European brought for has progressed so far other than religion? None... religion is the only thing that is progressing in all the things European brought us.... name them....school,politics,industries,etc are all failure except religion.

And now I ask you, if religion is a goof thing for us, why is our lives and nation the worst nation on the continent of world? If religion was a good thing for us.... how come theres no development in our life's and nation I ask again?


That's it.... the purpose of religion has been achieved. To keep people poor(letting them expect some useless comfort in heaven so they shouldn't worry about earth), to separate us(Christians are no friends of Muslims nd vice versa.... always fighting nd killing each other), Made us lost our heritage and history(no other tribe in d world lost theirs except us), to control us(also obvious.. many ppl are under serious mental slavery) and finally to keep us stupid(its also obvious....


So this is what am interpreting when I said religion is the only thing progressing.... and the more it progress the more our nation becomes miserable... the more religion progress the more the ppl suffers, becomes stupid and finally leave in war and sorrow.

Imagine how life would have look at if we are following "everything"_ the bible or Quran teaches.... lols, you and I would have been a slave today, Muslims nd Christians would have killed everyone in d world BCUZ ur religion teaches so.... If it wasn't for people who thought outside religion... your life would have been more miserable than you can imagine.




If u read dis nd still argue with this facts... that's stupidity.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 1:44am On Oct 15, 2020
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The above mentioned wickedness are integral part of your so called original local religion that you clamour for. Fortunately for us in Africa, Christianity put a main curb to many of these. You know it and that's why you shifted to the line of Korea, China and Japan. Lol. Your point is muted, stop shifting the goal post so often. Many of the advanced community you mentioned are religious people too. i really don't need to argue aimless on the others.





Here again is another needless goalpost. This is a childish play on names and words as against reality. FYI, Abraham's slaves and children of Abraham's slaves lived better and humane lives than many so called freemen and women today. Everyone is a slave to something in case you don't know. It is how you fare and how your master treats you that should guide your concerns. You for instance are an open slave of satan, sin, money, and useless ideologies. You only feel your master is better than others because you are a victim of Stockholm's syndrome.





So you know they are bizarre and barbaric but you would rather have them than be a genuine Christian. SMH.




You cannot think outside your small box. What you see around you is actually a result of sin and man's sinful nature. That is why the different religious and irreligious have all come short like you agree. Religion is just a branch or tool, it is not the root. The root is sin. This is why the wickedness, senselessness and stupidity is not peculiar to one religion, race, or age. You can see the same in all continents and from atheistic society like those of Stalin and Mao(if you know them). You can see the same madness in politics, power, wealth, tribalism. People commit all sort of wickedness and foolishness for these branches. The root to tackle is sin.




What is this one you are saying? Do you have the stats to arrive at this? Can you tell the estimate number of lives claimed by each of religion, sickness, work accidents, technology and war?




No i would not, would you? There's no nominal Christian or bible believer that believes he will be granted a heaven's ticket for killing. And that statistics is in billions of people. But you blindly concluded that of course you would. Can you see that you got yourself inside an unreasonable box?




You are really brainwashed. Stop reading too much rubbish.
I would only touch on few of your points as many of them are too unmatured for me to even read.

First, every tribe in the world once had one or two bizarre practises including the Europeans who brought ur god. It took civilization to eradicate many of it nd we are still shuffling many things till date(that's humanity for u, we use our brains to fish out wrong nd right nd no sm god smwhr telling us wat to do). I also made a good point of letting u know ur cherished bible supported slavery(which is a bizarre practise) nd even taught on how disciple them(whether Abraham treated them well or not does not change d fact that they're slaves and if u would love to be slaves nd be treated like Abraham slaves then I pray ur wish are granted you...may u become a slave nd be treated how abraham treated his slaves). Little did you know Catholics are one one the major participants of slaves then. And its funny you pick a few of the traditional wrongs to judge them but you wouldn't want someone to use many of your own wrongs to judge ur religion(isn't that hypocrisy in all sense?).


To show my level of free spirit, I admitted the wrongs in our tradition instead of justifying it but all you have ever done is try to justify every wrong in your boom BCUZ ure slave to it and slaves don't see wrongs in their masters... they're tot and told everything to do,say nd eat. That's who ure. You've seen wrongs but would rather justify it than say the honest truth(nd u would later say ur religion teaches honesty but u lie to support d religion teaching honesty.... I laf in Chinese tone).


Lastly, this is an article to read so you could see how much damage your religion has caused to humanity. I find it funny you don't know your religion is one of the factors that made slavery of your forefathers successful... Your ignorance is at its peak. Maybe you were not told, you Christian religion which has blended with time was once as radical as Islam is today. Fighting and killing people all around.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war


Your ignorance about history makes you think your religion is innocent. A little research and truth will be reveled unto you.

An ignorance comment coming from was that I should rubbish...Lols... rubbish is the bible that has no evidence to proof itself and reasonable things are those written with evidences anyone can see.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 1:23am On Oct 15, 2020
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Do you agree that your statement contradicted one another? Let's see if you are not rolling in circles here. You said religion obviously does not fit in, then go on to categorically state that religion is the A1 progressing thing.
Lols... you call this contradiction? Have I argued on its progress or retards? Funny guy, I have proven so far that religion is nothing other than tool of destroyer and a political weapon to divide, separate and control the people and I have given real life examples. Never for once have I argued on its progress.... u can show me where i did.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 4:12am On Oct 14, 2020
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First i want to thank and commend you for writing better and in lower cases.

Your point about religion was that it produces stupidity, foolishness and brainlessness. Now you have shifted to who invented or originated the religion, whether it is imported or local. cheesy You really think killing of twins, female genital mutilation, money rituals and appeasing of ancestors is what we are critically missing in our development and civilization. Can i only plead that you reconsider it and not shift goals yet again.
Ironically, you say religion obviously does not fit in, then go on to categorically state that religion is the A1 progressing thing. You don't seem able to use the vocabulary "brainwash" properly yet. Just stick to the local language, i will cope.
I learn where there is knowledge. My knowledge doesn't revolve round a circle like religious ppl.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 4:09am On Oct 14, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
Lols.... this looks like a nollyhood write up funny an adult like u would accept such script but shouldn't be surprise, the world is created as such that fools will triple the number of the intelligent ones.

J.W...lols ur own brainwash is on higher grade... Oga later.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 3:20am On Oct 14, 2020
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i clearly stated Explanation is not an exact science like Mathematics. There is NO text or passage or book that gives same universal comprehension like you suggest. The Bible never claims that everyone will understand it equally, neither is that a proof of its authenticity. You pulled out that criteria right from your own anus, it is not found anywhere else. In the contrary, the Bible states that Christians will not come to equal understanding. God made man and did not give us an esoteric book like you would prefer. He gave us a book that both high and low, genius and slow, wise and foolish can all understand to their own safe/pass point. Some 30%, some 60% and some 100%. Your proposal that everyone scores same marks in comprehension for the book to be from God stems from the realm of absurdity, totally your scenario.




You have no other reply, i answered all your questions. You had just two choices, understand or shift the goal to another joke. Your choice is loud.









i am happy for you. So, what have you afterward/since achieved that has not been achieved countless times by religious people?

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 3:17am On Oct 14, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
A quick touch of killing of twins, money rituals nd female genital mutilation. Just for a quick knowledge for you, this are things which were happening in some part of Africa lands and even every other land that are ancient world wide. Indians, Chinese,Japanese,Koreans,Arabs,Greeks,Romans, name them all has one or two practises that are dehumanising so its not about Africa or no africa. These were just old practises and funny enough, many of it were stopped by reasoning. Countries like Koreans,China, Japan nd so on didn't adopt Christianity or Islam to stop those practises... it was reasoning that lead to banning it.

Slavery was condoned in the bible nd quran but human reasoning has changed that as well. If you think only Africans has bizarre practises then u no not history. Many of those who even came to colonize us are into human sacrifice.

I definitely wouldn't support old practise that are bizarre but wouldn't also support seeing "all our practises as bizzare or old fashioned or uncivilized as many does see it today.



And saying religion makes many people foolish,senseless, commit most wicked atrocities ,controllable and stupid is very correct. I won't refer you to look into books for it but to look in your environment and see it. You can see how Muslims are comfortable killing people like goat in the name of god... u see how Christians are being fooled into many unthinkable things in the name of god. Religion creates avenue for the most wicked and inhuman people to act freely when they proclaim themselves as religious... Religion provides avenue for politicians to keep the people under control... never making them act for themselves and giving them false hope.

This are all cases happening around you... I wouldn't ask you to go and look into any book... its real life matter not boom matter.


In human history, religion has claimed equal or more life's as war has done.

Just ask yourself this now... if you're told to kill me and be granted heaven ticket wouldn't you? of cuz u would.... that's d danger of religion.

Religion is nothing other than politics.... Spirituality is the only true thing and spirituality has no religion... that's why irrespective of your religion or beliefs... you can go to mosque,Churh,shrine or anywhere and your problems will be solved.

If you read this and you still don't see the truth in it, then you understand the danger of religion. That's what we call brainwash.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 3:15am On Oct 14, 2020
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First i want to thank and commend you for writing better and in lower cases.

Your point about religion was that it produces stupidity, foolishness and brainlessness. Now you have shifted to who invented or originated the religion, whether it is imported or local. cheesy You really think killing of twins, female genital mutilation, money rituals and appeasing of ancestors is what we are critically missing in our development and civilization. Can i only plead that you reconsider it and not shift goals yet again.
Ironically, you say religion obviously does not fit in, then go on to categorically state that religion is the A1 progressing thing. You don't seem able to use the vocabulary "brainwash" properly yet. Just stick to the local language, i will cope.
A quick touch of killing of twins, money rituals nd female genital mutilation. Just for a quick knowledge for you, this are things which were happening in some part of Africa lands and even every other land that are ancient world wide. Indians, Chinese,Japanese,Koreans,Arabs,Greeks,Romans, name them all has one or two practises that are dehumanising so its not about Africa or no africa. These were just old practises and funny enough, many of it were stopped by reasoning. Countries like Koreans,China, Japan nd so on didn't adopt Christianity or Islam to stop those practises... it was reasoning that lead to banning it.

Slavery was condoned in the bible nd quran but human reasoning has changed that as well. If you think only Africans has bizarre practises then u no not history. Many of those who even came to colonize us are into human sacrifice.

I definitely wouldn't support old practise that are bizarre but wouldn't also support seeing "all our practises as bizzare or old fashioned or uncivilized as many does see it today.



And saying religion makes many people foolish,senseless, commit most wicked atrocities ,controllable and stupid is very correct. I won't refer you to look into books for it but to look in your environment and see it. You can see how Muslims are comfortable killing people like goat in the name of god... u see how Christians are being fooled into many unthinkable things in the name of god. Religion creates avenue for the most wicked and inhuman people to act freely when they proclaim themselves as religious... Religion provides avenue for politicians to keep the people under control... never making them act for themselves and giving them false hope.

This are all cases happening around you... I wouldn't ask you to go and look into any book... its real life matter not boom matter.


In human history, religion has claimed equal or more life's as war has done.

Just ask yourself this now... if you're told to kill me and be granted heaven ticket wouldn't you? of cuz u would.... that's d danger of religion.

Religion is nothing other than politics.... Spirituality is the only true thing and spirituality has no religion... that's why irrespective of your religion or beliefs... you can go to mosque,Churh,shrine or anywhere and your problems will be solved.

If you read this and you still don't see the truth in it, then you understand the danger of religion. That's what we call brainwash.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 2:50am On Oct 14, 2020
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i clearly stated Explanation is not an exact science like Mathematics. There is NO text or passage or book that gives same universal comprehension like you suggest. The Bible never claims that everyone will understand it equally, neither is that a proof of its authenticity. You pulled out that criteria right from your own anus, it is not found anywhere else. In the contrary, the Bible states that Christians will not come to equal understanding. God made man and did not give us an esoteric book like you would prefer. He gave us a book that both high and low, genius and slow, wise and foolish can all understand to their own safe/pass point. Some 30%, some 60% and some 100%. Your proposal that everyone scores same marks in comprehension for the book to be from God stems from the realm of absurdity, totally your scenario.




You have no other reply, i answered all your questions. You had just two choices, understand or shift the goal to another joke. Your choice is loud.









i am happy for you. So, what have you afterward/since achieved that has not been achieved countless times by religious people?

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:55pm On Oct 13, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
Every other people worship a god which looks like them except Africans... every other people follow nd cherish their customs,traditions nd culture except black people who has taken white men nd Arabians culture,traditions nd custom through their religion. No wonder we are the only backward people on the earth.


Think about it, if Europeans and Arabs hadn't come to invade us, how would u have learnt about ur god today? Surely that is their god, not ours here.

Religion is nothing but a scam, spirituality is the only reality here and it has no religion. That's why a Muslim can seek salvation from a Christian or traditional worshipper or any where and same applies to all.... Spirituality has no religion... Religion is politics made up to control people like you.

Don't just be angry, read and digest then think about it. Religion is scam.

That's how Arabs and Europeans sold their customs,tradition nd culture to us. They made us forget about who we are and that's why we are suffering today. They wanted to do d same in Japan,Korea,China nd other places but were rejected else those place would lost themselves and be suffering like us today.


Time to wake up!!!!

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:53pm On Oct 13, 2020
[quote author=Gilbertkwabena post=94909065][/quote]Every other people worship a god which looks like them except Africans... every other people follow nd cherish their customs,traditions nd culture except black people who has taken white men nd Arabians culture,traditions nd custom through their religion. No wonder we are the only backward people on the earth.


Think about it, if Europeans and Arabs hadn't come to invade us, how would u have learnt about ur god today? Surely that is their god, not ours here.

Religion is nothing but a scam, spirituality is the only reality here and it has no religion. That's why a Muslim can seek salvation from a Christian or traditional worshipper or any where and same applies to all.... Spirituality has no religion... Religion is politics made up to control people like you.

Don't just be angry, read and digest then think about it. Religion is scam.

That's how Arabs and Europeans sold their customs,tradition nd culture to us. They made us forget about who we are and that's why we are suffering today. They wanted to do d same in Japan,Korea,China nd other places but were rejected else those place would lost themselves and be suffering like us today.


Time to wake up!!!!

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:46pm On Oct 13, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
People who came to exploit you gave you religion and you think its a good one? you must have mental problem.


Look round you, what else did you see going on well with everything the slave masters brough? only religion... the source of all the problems Africa face.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:46pm On Oct 13, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
Foolishness is when you see truth and decides to follow lies.
People who came to exploit you gave you religion and you think its a good one? you must have mental problem.


Look round you, what else did you see going on well with everything the slave masters brough? only religion... the source of all the problems Africa face.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:43pm On Oct 13, 2020
[quote author=Gilbertkwabena post=94908764][/quote]Foolishness is when you see truth and decides to follow lies.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:36pm On Oct 13, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
HELLO U'LL DAT STILL BELIEVES IN THE LIES OF THE BIBLE AND QURAN... I HAVE JUST A FEW QUESTION TO YOU GUYS TODAY.


YOU FOLKS WERE TOLD ITS A GOD'S WORD SO DON'T QUESTION IT(ITS A STRATEGY TO GET U NOT FIND OUT)... IF YOU WILL, START ASKING QUESTIONS AND YOU WILL FIND OUT LOTS OF LIES UPON LIES YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD AND TAUGHT BOTH FROM THE BIBLE AND QURAN.


LET'S START WITH GENESIS...

GENESIS CHAPTER 1(KJV);

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Q.1 WHERE WAS GOD IN THE BEGINNING IF HE CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH?

Q.2 WHO CREATED DARKNESS AND THE WATERS THAT IS MENTIONED IN VS2?

Q.3 WHAT LIGHT WAS GOD TALKING ABOUT(NOT THE MOON,STAR OR SUN), SO ITS WHAT?


LET'S TACKLE THIS FIRST. FEEL FREE TO ASK YOUR TOP PASTORS SINCE MOST OF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BIBLE OR QURAN.


NOTE: IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER... DON'T HIDE UNDER THE POPULAR CHRISTIAN ESCAPE ROUTE "U NEED THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO UNDERSTAND" OR "ITS A MYSTERY".


GOOD MORNING.

Nairaland GeneralRe: Testimony Of A Former Phd Theologian And A Pastor. by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:33pm On Oct 13, 2020
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Nairaland GeneralRe: Testimony Of A Former Phd Theologian And A Pastor. by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:31pm On Oct 13, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
Its easy to show a Christian the contradictions in the Quran. When you do, they will shout:"wow, this book cant be from a god". If you try to tell them that the bible is full of Contradictions. They will tell you that you dont understand or you dont have the spirit of their god. Same thing with Muslims.
The West and The Arabs dont like themselves so much. They are Very cautious of each other.
I think the hatred goes back to the 7th century. When the Roman Empire fell, it gave way to the rise of The Arab empire and Islam.
Egypt, Turkey and part of Syria are formally controlled by Christians before it was taken over By Islam..
Umayyads took over the South of France for a while before being pushed out.
When Christianity began, and slowly gained power and Constantine became the Emperor ,they were able to quench other Religions within the Empire. They dominated the empire without any Objection until Arabs showed up; since the show of Islam , both have been fighting each other .
A fight that didnt concern Africans for centuries until Arab and Europeans shared the Continent.
Majority of Africans now inherited their Hatred.
Take of for Instance, Majority of Africans Muslim will support Palestinians while Majority African Christian will support Israel.
Their Loyalty is based on their Religion sentiments and emotions.

Nairaland GeneralRe: Testimony Of A Former Phd Theologian And A Pastor. by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:29pm On Oct 13, 2020
Gilbertkwabena:
More images coming.
Its easy to show a Christian the contradictions in the Quran. When you do, they will shout:"wow, this book cant be from a god". If you try to tell them that the bible is full of Contradictions. They will tell you that you dont understand or you dont have the spirit of their god. Same thing with Muslims.
The West and The Arabs dont like themselves so much. They are Very cautious of each other.
I think the hatred goes back to the 7th century. When the Roman Empire fell, it gave way to the rise of The Arab empire and Islam.
Egypt, Turkey and part of Syria are formally controlled by Christians before it was taken over By Islam..
Umayyads took over the South of France for a while before being pushed out.
When Christianity began, and slowly gained power and Constantine became the Emperor ,they were able to quench other Religions within the Empire. They dominated the empire without any Objection until Arabs showed up; since the show of Islam , both have been fighting each other .
A fight that didnt concern Africans for centuries until Arab and Europeans shared the Continent.
Majority of Africans now inherited their Hatred.
Take of for Instance, Majority of Africans Muslim will support Palestinians while Majority African Christian will support Israel.
Their Loyalty is based on their Religion sentiments and emotions.

Nairaland GeneralRe: Testimony Of A Former Phd Theologian And A Pastor. by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:20pm On Oct 13, 2020
More images coming.

Nairaland GeneralTestimony Of A Former Phd Theologian And A Pastor. by Gilbertkwabena(op): 6:14pm On Oct 13, 2020
THE ROOT WORD OF IGNORANT IS “IGNORE!” by Ray Hagins
(I apologize for the how lengthy this is, but I needed to share it).
My (birth) name is Ray Hagins. My spiritual name is Sa Ra Ankh Hotep Maakheru Setep En Ra (which means “a son of God, who has been chosen by God to be a teacher of truth bringing (or giving) life and peace).” I became a licensed minister in March of 1973, and ordained in March of 1975 by the Late Bishop Chandler D. Owens in the Church of God in Christ. I am the Founder, President, CEO and The International Chief Elder and Spiritual Teacher of The Afrikan Village & Cultural Centers, with headquarters in St. Louis, MO (formerly the New Ephesus Missionary Baptist).
Thousands of people, who have listened to my 24-hour-a-day Internet webcast over the past 18 years, have asked me about how I made the transition from a being Pentecostal preacher (who was “sold out” for the so-called gospel of Jesus Christ) into an Afrikan conscious minister and warrior for the liberation of my people of Afrikan ancestry. After sharing my testimony with another minister, he suggested that I post the testimony of my transition into Afrikan consciousness and spirituality on the Internet in hopes of inspiring other brothers and sisters who may be at the point of coming into an Afrikan awareness from the quantum deception of European philosophical and religious thought. I pray that my testimony will help to strengthen and inspire others who are at the crossroads of the truth and tradition.
In 1987 I was invited to a meeting of about 25 Black men (educators, businessmen, community leaders, and 3 ministers) in my hometown of Paterson, New Jersey, to discuss strategies on how to economically empower our people and community. The meeting had not formerly started, and while we were standing around casually talking, I overheard one of the brothers (who was a youth pastor at the St. Paul Episcopal Church) say, "We need to get this European Jesus out of the minds of our people, and realize that the original, virgin-born Christ was named Horus."
I couldn’t believe what I had just heard! Immediately, everything in me shut down and I went into “battle station” mode. (After all that is what I was “programmed” to do, because the bible states in Jude 3 to “earnestly contend (i.e., fight to defend) for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.”) At this point in my life I was known as a “soldier” for Christ. I was the publisher of the newsletter entitled, “The Contender.”
When this brother said what he said about my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, I IMMEDIATELY went to "Def-Con 1" (“Def-Con” is a military phrase, which means "Defense Condition." Def-Con 5 is peacetime, Def-Con 4 is combat preparedness, Def-Con 3 is combat readiness, Def-Con 2 is at combat station, and Def-Con 1 means, “we are at war”).
So I stepped over to this brother and said, "What do you mean Jesus' name was Horace?" (I thought he was saying H-O-R-A-C-E.) He responded, "It WAS Horus. The first virgin-born, Christ-child was Horus of Egypt and the record of his birth dates back to over 6,000 years B.C."
Brothers and SIsters, I (with my sincere, but ignorant self) stood in the middle of the floor and shouted, "BROTHERS, I AM SORRY TO HAVE TO LEAVE, BUT ANYBODY WHO REFUSES TO ACCEPT WHO JESUS CHRIST IS, IS A DECEIVER AND IS OF THE DEVIL. I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, AND I PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS IN THIS PLACE."
(PLEASE NOTE: I said this because I honestly felt that I was in the midst of satanic agents.) Now, understand, these were Black men who were aware of the truth of our Afrikan history, and I saw my own (Black) brothers as deceptive agents of Satan!!! Now, did Euro-Gentile Cultural Imperialism and Supremacy (via my "Christian" training) do a job on me or what?
I left that meeting and actually declared war on these men. I used my radio show (and later my TV show) to blast these men. I felt that it was my sacred duty to defend the gospel of Jesus Christ and warn as many people as I could about these Black men (who I genuinely perceived as agents of the devil). I did this for well over a year.
The 3rd Sunday in March of 1991, as I stood up to preach at my church in Paterson, NJ, just as I was about to read the text for the message (which was Romans 8:28) it seemed as though someone whispered in my right ear, "Did people know God BEFORE Moses went up on the mountain?"
It was so clear that I actually turned around to see who was there because it seemed to be just that audible and clear. I told the congregation, "Y'all…wait a minute! This question just popped into my head (then I told them what it was). It wasn't that significant for them, but it was VERY significant for me because ALL of my theology began with and was based in Moses coming down off the mountain with the "Ten Commandments" (or "The Law"wink. I will never forget that day because it was the day that I began to THINK! I actually exercised my critical thinking faculties and began to scrutinize what I had been taught all my life. I asked myself, “Did Moses have a God-consciousness BEFORE talking with God in a burning bush on the mountain?”
A few days later, during my devotions, I stumbled across Acts 7:20-22, which states: "In which time Moses was born, and was exceeding fair, and nourished up in his father's house three months: And when he was cast out, Pharaoh's daughter took him up, and nourished him for her own son. And Moses was learned in ALL THE WISDOM OF THE EGYPTIANS, and was mighty in words and in deeds."
I pulled out my Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance and looked up the word "wisdom" (as it was used in that particular verse); it comes from the Greek word "sophia," which means, "skill and discretion in imparting the truth of God; the knowledge and practice of the requisites for godly and upright living; supreme intelligence, such as belongs to God; the wisdom of God as evidenced in forming and executing counsels in the formation and government of the world and the scriptures." I said, WAIT A MINUTE!!! Moses got THIS from the Egyptians!!! --- It is important to note here that throughout my theological training I was taught that the Egyptians were barbaric, ignorant, enemies of and cursed by God.
Several days later, I was in downtown Paterson and I parked my car in front of Bazaar Books (a store that bought and sole used books). I had passed this store hundreds of times over the years and NEVER had the slightest inclination to go inside; but this particular day I was "moved" to go inside and browse around. Of course, the only area that really interested me was Religion & Philosophy.
I picked up a book entitled, "Osiris & The Egyptian Resurrection" (Part 1) by E.A. Wallis Budge. The idea of an Egyptian "RESURRECTION" caught my attention. I opened the front cover to the preface and came across the following words:
"The central figure of the ancient Egyptian Religion was Osiris, and the chief fundamentals of his cult were the BELIEF IN HIS DIVINITY, DEATH, RESURRECTION, and absolute control of the destinies of the bodies and souls of men. The central point of each Osirian's Religion was his HOPE OF RESURRECTION IN A TRANSFORMED BODY AND OF IMMORTALITY, WHICH COULD ONLY BE REALIZED BY HIM THROUGH THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF OSIRIS.”
I literally shouted out, "WHAT IN THE HELL IS THIS?" I immediately suffered what we psychologists call "cognitive dissonance." I knew that this was EXACTLY what I had believed since I was a child and had preached for more than 25 years, but the central figure of MY belief and message was a man called "Jesus Christ." What really bothered me was, according to what I had been taught, Jesus Christ was the ONLY person about whom such a message applied. Then when I read that this belief system had been with the Nile Valley Afrikans for at least the last 15 to 20 thousand years…I really lost it!!! You see, any bible scholar will tell you that the creation of the world only dates back to 4,004 B.C. (Google: Bishop James Ussher dates Genesis 1:1)
Then, to top it off, I read about the Ancient Afrikan TRINITY; which consisted of Ausar, Aset, and Heru (which the Europeans renamed: Osiris, Isis and HORUS)!!! I came to find out that Horus was the "virgin born, immaculately conceived" son of Osiris. As you can imagine, this led me on a sincere and intense search for factual and undeniable evidence for the TRUTH.
The more I researched, the more I realized that the entire program that I had been indoctrinated into was a LIE. In 1993, I decided to leave the ministry that I was so popular in and knew so well. I simply could not, any longer, stand in front of my people and teach that which I had found to be a stolen, copied, plagiarized and a European fabricated version of the ancient Afrikan concepts of spirituality.
Brothers and Sisters, this was the most painful period of my life. At one point I had become so depressed about my believing in LIES that I even had thoughts of suicide. How could I have been so wronghuh I couldn’t understand how I actually experienced “the power of God” moving upon me in mighty and awesome ways in the past IF this was all a liehuh I felt betrayed, humiliated, deceived, confused, unworthy, and like a complete failure.
Now, I wasn’t feeling all this because of the truths that I had come to find out about. No! For these truths were UNDENIABLE, and EVIDENCE that DEMANDED AN UNDENIABLE and INEVITABLE VERDICT! That verdict was that I had been lied to! I was angry with all those who taught me these lies (my parents, my teachers, my professors, etc.). The ONLY thing that helped me was coming to the realization that the same dog that bit me, bit my parents, and their parents too! They were only teaching me what they had been taught.
This, however, didn’t apply to my seminary professors. I met with the president of the seminary I graduated from, and asked him, “Why isn’t this information a part of the curriculum and course requirements for a degree in Sacred Literature?” He said to me, “You don’t need to know about that. Besides, it is not substantial data within the context of the mission statement of this institution.” WOW!!! He had just told me, in a politically correct way, that I had been trained (and degreed) in one of the biggest LIES of all time and that I was supposed to perpetuate this LIE and convince others of it through the preaching of the “gospel.”
After several years of intense research and securing an accurate education in the truth, I efficaciously returned to the pulpit in February of 1998, when I became the pastor of New Ephesus Missionary Baptist Church in St. Louis. Through an old wise man, God convicted me in September of 1997 by asking me; “Son, if you young folk, whose eyes have been opened to the truth, abandon our people who don’t know no better, then what hope is there for us?” Then he said, “God DID call you to preach, but to preach the TRUTH!” I never saw that old man again!
Well, here I now am…
My reason for sharing this testimony is NOT to convert anyone to the information that I now KNOW…but simply to let you know that since the European invasion and theft of our people from our Motherland, we Afrikans have been born and raised in the LIE of European Religious and Cultural Imperialism and we think we are walking in the truth (because it is all that we know)! The religion that we have been made to love (i.e., Christianity), was forced upon us by European slave traders and those who enslaved us. Just that alone should make EVERY Black man, woman and child be suspect about the slave master's religion.
There is a phrase that says you reap what you sow. Well, that certainly is true, because I have gone through the same kind of attack that I viciously put on those brothers in 1987, who compassionately respected me in my ignorance. I wish that I could go back and tell them that I am so sorry for attacking their awareness with my ignorance…but most of them have passed on. They were the ones that God used to plant the seed of this truth in me. Now, when I am attacked, rebuked, ridiculed, and rejected by others who are sincerely ignorant, I see my “old” self and where I came from. That helps me to be compassionate on my attackers. I realize that they are sincerely defending what they genuinely think is the truth (just like I did).
Coming into the awareness of the truth of our Afrikan story can (and probably will be) very painful for you. I must admit that it’s very painful being called "an antichrist" or "a messenger of Satan" or "false prophet," etc., by your own people. It hurts being dis-fellowshipped by your family, friends, loved ones, and those who you care so deeply for…especially when they haven't done (nor are they willing to do) the research and learn what you have learned. But yet, in their minds, you are the one who is "deceived" and don't know what you are talking about. Believe me, IT HURTS SO BADLY!
Then there are those (Christians) who feel that I need to be stopped “for the sake of the gospel!" But I know that God and our Afrikan Ancestors have given me this assignment…AND I CAN'T STOP! Even if it means people who I care so deeply about walking away from me and seeing me as “blinded by Satan,” or even losing my physical life. And, it’s just THAT serious.
In 1998, a group of pastors in St. Louis, MO, attempted to shut down my church and said, “Hagins, we are going to stop you no matter what it takes.” These prominent Black pastors (in St. Louis) literally marched up in our church and tried to have me expelled saying that I was preaching “bad doctrine.” I told them that I am not preaching doctrine at all, but facts which can be easily verified by anyone, who really wants to know the truth. Then I said to those “pastors,” if any one of you can disprove or invalidate just ONE thing that I have said, I will step down and never open my mouth to utter another word again.” Needless to say, not one of those ministers (with their Th.B., B.A. in Biblical Studies, M. Div., Th. M., Th. D., and D.D. degrees could refute or disprove anything that I had taught.
I have actually pulled books from the libraries of other ministers, turned to the proof or source of the information in question and said, "Here, man. See for yourself.” They would look away and say, "I don't want to see that." I have stood across the desks of several friends (who were or are pastors) and asked them, “Brother, why are you having a problem with me when what I have said is right here in the very commentary and references that you study by and use to prepare your messages?” I understand that the reason they didn’t want to “see” was because then they, too, would be compelled to change, and that is definitely NOT an option for most pastors who have established their ministry on what they think they now, or can be voted out or removed from their pulpits if they do not preach and uphold the “doctrines” of that particular church or denomination.
Another problem that I was faced with was the problem with my music ministry. Over 90% of the songs that I wrote and used to sing, I couldn't sing them anymore. That’s when I began to realize that it’s not really about worshipping GOD! It’s about worshipping Jesus! But how can that be? Because even the biblical text states that Jesus said that NO ONE IS TO BE WORSHIPPED BUT GOD ALONE!!! "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and HIM ONLY shalt thou serve." (See Matthew 4:10 and Luke 4:cool.
Isn’t it something that (according to the biblical text) Jesus NEVER told his disciples to go preach (or teach) about him! He told his disciples, "As you go, preach, saying, The Kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matthew 10:7). Not only could I not “preach” this Euro-Gentile "program" anymore...I couldn't sing about it either. Being that I was a gospel recording artist and the State Minister of Music for the State of New Jersey Churches of God in Christ, this was REALLY a major adjustment for me.
Brothers and Sisters, I painfully learned that my friends were my friends as long as we were in agreement “when it comes to Jesus.” I have been told many times, "The bible says, how can two walk together except they agree." I couldn't understand why other ministers (who I thought were my friends) discontinued our relationship as friends just because I learned something that they didn't know or agreed with! What did that have to do with me as a person?
I must say at this point, and please understand, what God reveals to you, is for YOU! I made the mistake of trying to take others along with me to the next level in MY growth and development. It doesn’t work that way! Realize that if you choose to learn more, you may very well lose some of your closest friends. You will want to take them to the next level with you, but realize that God is taking YOU there...not y'all there.
Please allow me to say that, as long as we keep allowing our religious indoctrinations to separate and divide us, we will never come together in unity as a people. The brothers and I (at the meeting I went to) never did get to accomplish what we came together in the first place for all because that youth pastor said something that I disagreed with (even though I had no idea what he was talking about).
In closing, I would like to share an excerpt of the minutes from the Council of Chalcedon, an Ecumenical Council Meeting of the Roman Catholic Church, which took place on October 8, 451 A.D. Note what these Roman Catholic bishops decreed:
“This wise and saving creed, the gift of divine grace, was sufficient for a perfect understanding and establishment of religion. For its teaching about the Father and the Son and the holy Spirit is complete, and it sets out the Lord's becoming human to those who faithfully accept it.
Since we have formulated these things with all possible accuracy and attention, the sacred and universal synod decreed that no one is permitted to produce, or even to write down or compose, any other creed or to think or teach otherwise. As for those who dare either to compose another creed or even to promulgate or teach or hand down another creed for those who wish to convert to a recognition of the truth from Hellenism or from Judaism, or from any kind of heresy at all: if they be bishops or clerics, the bishops are to be deposed from the episcopacy and the clerics from the clergy; if they be monks or layfolk, they are to be anathematized (i.e., accursed).”
Notice that, according to this decree, you are not even allowed to THINK anything other than what you have been indoctrinated to believe. This is our problem people. When we disrespect the research and knowledge of those who KNOW, because we have chosen to ignore (or be ignorant), we shut the door on our own growth, development and empowerment.
Hotep (Peace),
Brother Ray

Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 9:20pm On Oct 12, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
See foolishness!
We're talking about life in general you focused on just one aspect "money" is that not what brought up this arguement? cheesy
Guy you need wisdom! I never said i'll not handle money but money doesn't control me or my judgement. so your grandma in the village is now worthless because she doesn't have money to splash up and down like your friends shey! cheesy
Never mind, your own son will use you for money ritual one of this days since you instill the love of money in their brains than for humanity! cheesy



See mumu! grin
Once you exclude God from your thoughts there is no way you can meet up with perfect thinking so stop lying to your own soul. You raised the issue of money as if there are no JWs who can buy Dangote and Otedola, i just want you to spew all the gibberish in your head before telling you that there are billionaires in America who are JWs, there are billionaires in Nigeria who are JWs but you can't know them because they don't live notice me lives like your friends! smiley




Thank God i'm not an atheist! cheesy
You don't know that it's because they must go from house to house that made our brothers keep their own billions in secret, they only make use of their money to help where the need is great! wink
How do you think poor Africans can afford those quality Bibles and publications printed by the Watchtower?
Or how do you think the Organization is funding huge projects here and there?
Do you think it's the stipends from poor Africans that they're using to fund all these!
Guy you are a complete mumu.
Money has it's own value for sure but love has greater value than money. Your fellow worshipers of money will easily disown you in the face of Politics and Racism, but lovers of God will stick to one another throughout all circumstances! smiley
The words coming out from a self acclaimed peaceful,loving and kind man is d same word a devil will use...

I won't waste my time on u again... Its useless to do so. So far so good, uve said nothing reasonable other than nonsenses which I won't even border debating.

No clean person on earth owns billions of dollars... if ur J.W owns billions, it shows they're as dirty as everyone else and ur life is as miserable as anyone else. ure no better than anybody in fact ure more miserable BCUZ u live in delusion and under control... All I will do is hope u one day regain ur lost senses.


Case closed
Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 5:15pm On Oct 12, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
How foolish you are Mr Atheist? cheesy

Walahi Talahi you're the dumbest person i've seen in my entire life!

So you're comparing those whose lives are not even secure in the hands of those who knew them to someone who can get to any country in the world and sleep comfortably in the home of total strangers all in the name of FAITH! huh

Well listen and learn you foolish atheist, all those you mentioned are never secured without armed operatives, even those who know them evaluate their life by the material possessions they have and any opportunity to grab something from them even if it's going to cost the life of the rich worths it in the eyes of faithless people. But i even without a penny when my car broke down at 9pm along Ife~Ilesha expressway, i just walked up to the next town and asked for the home of a JW that's all. I was given an executive room, warm bath, pounded yam at that hour, well that's what changed the heart of my friend with whom i was traveling from that very day!
None of those you mentioned can do that without security operatives guarding them like chickens, and if those operatives could come to an agreement on what they could grab from your friends at that spot my guy they're dead meat and the rest will be story story story.
No wonder God's word said you people are the most foolish of all humans, guy come let's teach you how to live a satisfying life without the fear of robbers. Meanwhile the "robbers" in quote could be your closest confidants. WHY? Because all of you believe in the power of money so your life is worthless even in the eyes of your friends. While a JW will be prepared to die for his JW brother in the name of FAITH! cheesy
I didn't even border to read all uve written cuz its of no use.

Its just funny to see the one who claim to be in a religion of love,peace nd joy using vulgar words like that... am sure if I were with u, u might probably have fought me with the way ur blood was boiling writing this. lols... that's what religion does to u... turns a natural good person into wicked person all in d name of fighting for god.


SAD..... Anyways.... its not surprising to see u use those words... after all Christianity and Islam spread killing millions,lying and insulting others...if not it wouldn't have left where it started so since the foundation was built in lies,killings nd insult... its normal the members follow such steps.

Lastly, I doubt u know the finances of ur dear beloved J.W... one of d richest church in the world.... If ure wise enough, u will know money with serious volumes aren't made by being righteous alone... Go nd learn about ur nd d founder... how he lied to u about Jesus coming nd wen it failed in order to hide he decided to say he has come already but thankfully, the followers are too deep washed they can't know truth from lies.


Dangote,Bill Gates,Jeff,Davido,Wiz,Fashola Tinubu,Oga bello, etc lives are all better than urs... far far better that millions prays to be like them(am sure ure secretly praying for that as well).



Again, I know all Christians are brainwashed but J.W are *100 washed than the rest.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 5:03pm On Oct 12, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
I knew you're empty from the start, so money is your own god, no wonder you are arguing blindly in support of uncertainty.

Well your fellow believers will surely behead you in the name of your god one day, since Mammon demands for life in exchange for his gift. And you're just a life as well!
Lols... Even ur god couldn't survive without 10% even not considering the poor... that's how powerful money is. I belief u used stone to get on Nairaland here nd u used stone to go to skull nd certainly ure expecting to be paid stone wen u secure a job.


The message on my post is so vast but u grap one only side bcuz ur ability to think doesn't exist. U are like a computer... uve been programmed to think nd reason in a particular way.


Again, The lives of those and many of them are better than urs in many ways nd many even uses theirs as a prayer point.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 12:52pm On Oct 12, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
I'll be more than pleased to live and die in the midst of the brainwashed ones who have LOVE JOY and PEACE permeating their gathering than join the hopeless and worthless apes whose life has no meaning! cheesy
Lols... Dangote life has millions of meaning more than u nd all ur Nigerians members.. Otedola,Wizkid,Davido,The governors etc life's all has meaning more than u nd ur entire J.W members but guess wat? The names I mentioned aren't J. W nd even they're not active religious ppl.

U see u need help? they even made u think ur life is better than anyone's else. Chaii... Sorry huh ... will keep wishing u see d light one day.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Any Muslim Or Christian Answer This? by Gilbertkwabena(op): 10:03pm On Oct 11, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Of course the Bible told us that false religion will come to an end, the Bible made us to understand that by that time only Jehovah's Witnesses will keep their faith when the world politicians come together against false religion.

So you don't need to tell me that cause i'm aware of it already, Jehovah's Witnesses will continue to worship our own God when all of you have gotten tired of your false religious lies.

Just don't join them when they start to attack JWs because God's word made it clear to us that after all of you have abandoned your false religious practices, most of you will come after us out of spite and that's what will trigger Jehovah's anger to destroy all of you! smiley
Lols.... this looks like a nollyhood write up funny an adult like u would accept such script but shouldn't be surprise, the world is created as such that fools will triple the number of the intelligent ones.

J.W...lols ur own brainwash is on higher grade... Oga later.

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