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MaxInDHouse:
You're just a baby so there is no need wasting my time with you, religion will continue to be whether you like it or not.
Think of something better to discuss and forget about religion because that's the main reason man was created~ to worship God!

LOLS... GOD CREATED YOU SO U COULD COME AND CREATE HIM? LOLS... HOW IDLE OR USELESS UR GOD MUST BE WITHOUT SM1 WORSHIPPING HIM... I SYMPATHIZE WITH HIM.

ND WHERE URE WRONG IS "THINKERS" ARE A RAISING SMALL SMALL AND WHEN THINKERS ARISE, RELIGION FALLS. RELIGION ONLY STANDS BCUZ U PPL DON'T THINK... THINK AND SEE IF UR RELIGION WILL STAND. LOLS

SO RELIGION WON'T BE FOREVER... IT IS FALLING SMALL SMALL AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO... THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STAND IS SPIRITUALITY BCUZ RELIGION IS ONLY POLITICS AND SPIRITUALITY US NATURE.

Image123:
The answers given are not too different like you try to make it. And i am certain that most of them are honest answers and interpretations that are not FOUNDATIONAL or do or die. In an passage or comprehensive reading, put in any 100 readers and tell them to explain or summarise, the difference will always be there, you cannot have 100% exact answers. Yet the result may show some have the same scores(3 of them scored 84%) yet did not write exact same thing. You will also see different grades and scores. If you are expecting only 100 and 0, you are probably dreaming. Explanation is not an exact science like Mathematics.
None of these disprove God or His Holy Spirit. Not all have the Holy Spirit, not all have the Holy Spirit in the same measures, and not all "use" the Holy Spirit. i have hardly read anyone mention Holy Ghost on the thread except you so i remain amused as to why you want to force the Holy Spirit into every post than understand what you ask.





See the irony. You agree that there were things in existence BEFORE the beginning in question. It is that simple once you stay on lane. i am surprised as to why you suddenly equate beginning to mean eternity BTW. Anyway, you can clearly state that darkness and light existed before this particular beginning. So it behooves the reader to STUDY and not just read or comprehend grammar and lexis. Study. Any average student of the Bible knows there was light before this beginning just like you have said. It was not just created in this beginning. The devil and angels were not just created in this beginning, so many things were already in play before this particular beginning. That's why i showed you this Genesis was about the human race genesis. If you cannot study this from scriptures, and cannot understand this simple explanation given, it's not likely you can be helped much. It will continue to look complicated and confusing to you. i remember in school, some of my classmates always looked and talked as confused as you if not more. They usually failed BTW, or they pay for tutorials.

Pro 8:23 KJV I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

For you that thinks the Bible teaches earth was the beginning, here is bible telling us that there were things existing BEFORE. When you read beginning, study, try to know which of the beginning or whose beginning. Except of course your aim is not to understand.




BTW, the heaven here is what we call the atmosphere. In the Bible, there are many heavens so try to STUDY which heaven.
Asking where God was before creating Heaven again is like asking where your dad was before he built or rented his house. It is that simple.
What the Bible means by dividing the darkness from the light was simply demarcating or setting them apart. It was not ALL darkness or ALL light(like in Heaven), but day and night. Nothing mysterious or confusing or worth twisting here.
BTW, these things are unimportant(in the grand scheme) compared to how you are hawking them. You don't need to know this or understand or even believe this for eternal life or anything important. A proper Bible study will help see these things as clearly shown in different parts of the Bible. It calls for a shake of head when people like you lose hope because some people don't know this or don't know it equally. The knowledge is largely immaterial for your salvation and relationship with God.




Okay oh unbragging professor that has read Bible 100times. Reading the Bible 100times is not a spiritual feat. It just makes you a bigger zero than the other zeros. While i'm of the opinion that every serious student of the Bible should have completely read the Bible, it doesn't reduce the more important ability to use it and to have life from it instead of death that yours produced. The letter killed you fa. Stop increasing the size of your zero. It doesn't add value.





i usually ask your cohorts, what has your truth done for you than the Truth has done for me? i am not sure you see yourself of better academic or financial or living or eternal advantage than all Christians, or do you?

I don't even know where to start from. You just confirm that ur bible is just a normal book and has no divinity in it with your statement. U agree that when 100ppl are called and ask to read from the same text, there would be different understanding for each of them and I agree too but if the book was divine or if there is only any holy ghost, even if 1million people read it, it should be d same understanding and interpretation so ur book which u claim is from god has been defeated by ur own scenario.

Replying others would be a waste of time since we've seen the book is just a story book like any other book.

And then you ask how my truth has helped so far? Good it has helped me liberate myself from mental slavery, it has helped me find how wonderful nd great the true God is, it has helped me find who I am, it has helped me not to live in delusion but to face life just as it is, d truth also has helped to understand d mysteries nd wonders of nature which non of d religious are able to know BCUZ u av a close mind, nd more importantly, it has helped me know how great and mighty our ancestors are, the mighty things they have done that even till date our civilization hasn't been able to achieve that yet, how spiritually inclined they are that even putting all pastors together none of then has achieved half of wat they achieved.... and. also help me figure out who our enemy is... the enemy who has put all this nation in d state it is today.... just to name a few.


Am so joyful that am free from mental slavery and I explore life to its fullest. I don't belong to a circle where am tot to I see anything outside tge circle has wrong and devilish...

Mental slavery is real and serious and that's what ure going tru now.

Image123:
Religion is not really your problem. The statistics of theists(religious people) far outweigh atheists in Britain, America, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and UAE. Find something else to blame.

In case u want to say Christianity isn't from Europe then u should tell me who branded Christianity into wat it is today. Jews religion is always Judaism(nd that's their traditional religion like Islam is to Arabs). The Europeans took crafted Christianity from Judaism nd put in all their ways of life(culture nd tradition) in it. That's why Judaism nd Christianity aren't d same.... Look at Judaism rituals nd look at our rituals here nd c d resemblance... that is I you av eyes.

Image123:
Religion is not really your problem. The statistics of theists(religious people) far outweigh atheists in Britain, America, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and UAE. Find something else to blame.

VERY TRUE... The majority of the people are Theist(even dou they are only by identity but that's anoda topic) but the case is did they adopt another peoples religion? No... they invented their own religion(which comprises their own tradition nd culture) so they never deviated from their origin or style of life hence making them grow. Now look at urself, is Christianity if Islam your own fathers religion? does the vulture nd tradition in dose religions fits into d style of life in Africa? obviously no!

A saying goes as dis," A river who forgets his source will surely dry". Africans are the only people in the entire world with another mans religion. We have forgotten our root and that's why we are in this state and the faulty ones are u ppl.

Just for once in ur life think about this... In Nigeria presently, tell me what sector or industry is progressing in Nigeria other than religion. School(f9),Politics,industries,infrastructure etc are all f9.... the only A1 is religion... if u av head to think, u will know wat is making our life miserable in Africa. Ppl like u are... those brainwashes by religion.

AkinwaleJJ:
Not again!

That chapter of challenges is what i've been through several times with Atheists and now are you bringing it up again?

So Flavius Josephus mentioned Jesus of Nazareth and that's enough evidence for me, because Jesus' disciples penned it down that the religious leaders were determined to debunk the story, his followers were persecuted for telling people about him. If you're not a baby you should know by now what politicians like those first century Jewish court can do.

But you've made up your mind, so let's leave the matter, i'll continue with what i know for the benefit thereof is bountiful, you too can enjoy your unbelief no wahala!

SO MANY HISTORIANS EVEN CHRISTIANS HAS DEBUNKED THE CLAIM AND URE HERE TALKING. D SAME CATHOLIC MANY OF U HATE ARE THOSE WHO MANIPULATE THE BOOK.


https://stellarhousepublishing.com/josephus/


YOU CAN READ SOMETHING HERE AND FIND OUT THE REST URSELF. IF IT WAS TRUE, MAJORITY OF THE HISTORIANS INCLUDING THOSE OF YOUR RELIGION WOULDN'T DEBUNK IT.....

WAKE UP!!!

IF YOUR JESUS OR THE BIBLE WAS TRUE, THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING EXCLUSIVE THAT ONLY HIS FOLLOWERS WILL ACHE VIE BUT REAL LIFE HAS PROVE THAT WHATEVER CHRISTIANS CAN OR IS ACHIEVING OR DOING IS ALSO DONE BY NON-CHRISTIANS.

IF YOU THINK YOUR JESUS IS THE WAY LIKE YOU CLAIM, TELL ME ONE REAL LIFE THING HE CAN DO FOR YOU OR ANY OF HIS DEVOTED FOLLOWER THAT OTHER PEOPLE DOESN'T OR CANT GET.

WAKE UP!!!

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible is written for everyone to make up their own mind for themselves and by themselves without any Duress.

But the teachers who themselves know nothing for they themselves, are wicked evil people too who will not allow you to think for yourself and allow you to come to your own opinion for yourself, which I know that the Bible would show you for yourself how Wrong or Right you are or have been.

As you said "WE WERE TOLD", they say all kinds of things Rather Than the things that they are supposed to be saying, but they do not know, to say.



No one has it Good Without God's Help and Support



The Buddhist appear to be using their spirit, which is what the Bible already advocates, not your physical and bodily powers.



These are Using Natural Law as in Law of Nature which is God's Laws to regulate their affairs therefore, God is with them alot, which is Who we lack with the man made laws.



Oh No, they don't even come close. I Beat them flat and they Presently Hate me for it.

YOU ARE IN SERIOUS DELUSION. I WILL HOPE ONE DAY YOUR EYES WILL BE OPEN.

JUST READ YOUR ANSWERS AND SEE HOW DISHONEST, BLIND DEFENDING AND IGNORANT IT IS.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AGAIN. THINK OUTSIDE THE CIRCLE YOU HAVE BEEN PUT AND U WILL SEE HOW MUCH YOU BEEN FOOLED.

YOU CASE IS LIKE A CHILD WHO ALWAYS THINKS HIS FATHER'S FARM IS D LARGEST BCUZ HE HASN'T SEEN OTHER PEOPLE'S FARM... TAKE A TOUR ROUND AND LEARN OF LIFE AND LOOK AT REALITY WITH AN OPEN MIND THEN YOU WOULD SEE HOW GULLIBLE UVE BEEN.

BYE MAN. Hopin you see the light some day.

MaxInDHouse:
If Jesus never existed and billions of people are talking about him, my guy check yourself!
Jesus existed according to the Bible and Flavius Josephus (a first century Jewish historian) he confirmed that both John the Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth are real historical figures, mind you Flavius Josephus is not a Christian o!

Lols... Jesus never existed its a fact and billion of talking about him doesn't prove that he exist as well.... The population of the foolish has always been huge than that of the wise so this won't be any different. In fact what everyone belief or talks about is usually lies cuz majority of the ppl never go with truth nd that's wat ure doing.

And the you spoke of Flavius Josephus..lols... have you read the whole book? okay don't worry about the whole book, just read chapter 9 book 20. The name of the book is "The Antiquities of the Jews".... If you accept that's Jesus then d whole bible will fall immediately BCUZ the Jesus he was talking about doesn't look like the one described in d bible. Am sure you do not even the history of the bible and group of people who combined the bible for u... u know nothing and you're not also learning.


I CHALLENGE YOU TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, TO QUESTION AND FIND ANSWERS TO ALL YOU KNOW AND SEE IF IT STANDS.

AkinwaleJJ:
There's no need wasting precious time with you, if it's paining you that believers are worshiping their God, go and stop them!

The only thing paining me is that your foolishness and brainlessness has caused the country to be in the state it is today.

BCUZ of you religious people(who constitute d majority) innocent ppl are suffering... you have been brainwashed to see your oppressor as your god, you have brainwashed not to think of developing your nation but to go some fictional heaven and live forever nd other useless things promised u.

Your stupidity has caused the downfall of Africa... and that's why its paining me.

Dtruthspeaker:
Please explain what you mean by this statement.



This is a Lie and the Product of an Evil bible orchestrated to make you see God as Wicked rather than say the Truth of Who God is.



Again evil Report not 1st Class but 1st Born.

Do we not have 1,2, 3, first borns and second borns, but are all not children, partaking in the goodness of the father?

Nothing unusual if you really want to say the Truth.



If I pee into your drinking pot, no matter how little or slight, You Will Certainly Destroy Both the Water and the Pot, wouldn't you? (if you would be True)



Would you give good rewards to your enemies? If your housegirl enslaves your children shall you reward her with a car? (Again, if you say the Truth)



You already know that this is not True!



It is not about following Him BUT About Avoiding The Consequence Of Your Continuous Planting OF Wickedness and Evil For It is The Law That "A Good Tree Must Bear Good Fruits and An Evil Tree Must Bear very wicked fruits like A Mango Tree can Never bear Grapes.



There are no errors and inconsistencies Only The Lies and Conjectures told by many of your teachers, which you now for this purposes have accepted but at Another time, you will reject, As Proven Above.

So, tell me who is being inconsistent now, if it is not you?



They are just the Proof of The Bible, which says Only One Way to Life but Many Many Ways To Die!

And the Problem is How are you going to find that One Way?

Oh boy, it's Unending, I give up let me go and play and have other types of fun.

I don't even know where to start from. You are very unfamiliar with your scriptures. You do not know about the inconsistences,d rapes,slavery etc in it nd u think its a lie from me? lols... u av d bible, go nd read it.

Read about how ur god gave laws on how to treat slaves, how to treat a raped girl, how Israelites should destroy other nations nd wife their children. Read d contradictions in it... WHR it would tell u god is not dis but d next chpt it tells u it is DAT again, read about d different acct/story for one person. I know all the scriptures you would find all this but I won't waste my time again. I hope one day, you will let your senses lead you and you will see the light.

Am tired of the argument already...

Dtruthspeaker:
Nothing About PROVE JESUS,MOSES,ABRAHAM ND CO OUTSIDE THE BIBLE here.

Nah, its not that there is nothing to proof but you or anyone has no proof. You only belief what you belief because the bible said so... funny how adults would think in this way.

We have been shown of remains of people who lived over 3k,4k etc years ago but Jesus who was said to live just little over 2k years ago has no traces, no descendants ...not one historical wrote about him but they wrote about Ppl who lived before him and after him.

Isn't that funny? lols

Dtruthspeaker:
Naaah! You've Changed Post and Changed The Question.

You Never Asked About "PROVE JESUS,MOSES,ABRAHAM ND CO OUTSIDE THE BIBLE. But you clearly Listed Out the 3 Questions in the beginning of your Post.



Nothing About PROVE JESUS,MOSES,ABRAHAM ND CO OUTSIDE THE BIBLE here.

I didn't change topic... I only used made mention of it as emphasis to claim. As you see it, none of you so far gave a corresponding answer and that is bcuz d bible doesn't have d answer... you guys had to come up with something from ur intellects.

Dtruthspeaker:
Wow! This is long!

Changed how? For Worster or Stubborner (permit my speech) or for Holder?



Ah! That is Not True for it is seen that an Armed Robber/Rapist can be very very kind and sweet while a "good" man can steal and kill. What then shall be the difference between the 2 of them?



They All Reported that they heard from God and even explained how and when they heard from Him.. And also, they showed us how they were like before they heard from God, (Which I see was that they were like me or my various mees )

And then I saw that after they had heard from God, they were not like me again



Remember, it's Us (man) who ate that, we should not have eaten, therefore, were we like Trees and Animals, We Lost Many Many Things That Day!

Therefore, Thanks Be To The Goodness of God, A plan was Raised Up to Bring Us Back into What and All That we Lost.

And you know, Every Plan is Set or Written, Hence Manual!



True we do have Power for many things BUT We Lost Power for Many Many Things!



There was Never Power in those things in the first place (oh my people nearly killed me when I told them this when I was young, one of my happy moments).

So imagine how happy I was to tell them what I learnt from the Bible that "The Creator is Always and Shall Always Be Greater than the created/creation" They were livid and fell silent. Also I was stronger too so they they could not hurt me... like that.



This is the wisdom Power Flows from the Thing that has Power to that which has not power or less power.

The Power of The Bible Flows From Him Who Caused the Bible to be Written, not from the man writers but from the Creator of the Bible!



Not in the case of the Bible which tells you the Truth Without Any Compulsion. It is Instructive and not Compelling.

It is Instructive in A Recommended Way like a Manual. And like a Manual, You are free to Accept its Recommendations or Disregard them.

It is the Wicked and evil Teachers Who Compell Manipulate and Orchestrate you to Do What they said Claiming "the Bible said so".

Let me Submit this part and permit me to Step out.

I'll be back to read the remaining parts later.

I WILL TRY TO NOT WRITE MUCH THIS TIME.

1ST.. DID U MEAN THERE ARE NO "GOOD" MEN OUTSIDE UR RELIGION OR U ARE D ONLY GOOD MAN ON EARTH CUZ U JUST SAID ITS NOT TRUE THERE ARE GOOD MEN WITHOUT D BIBLE SO THEN DEFINE WHAT GOOD IS THEN AND GV EXAMPLE NOT THINGS WRITTEN IN A BOOK DAT CAN'T BE CONFIRMED... I LOVE REALITY..


2ND... I LOVE THE WORD U USE "THEY SAID" THIS IS WHERE U OUGHT TO THINK IF U REALLY HAVE BRAIN. SOMEONE TOLD YOU SOMETHING U NEVER CONFIRM AND NO ONE ON EARTH EVER CONFIRM IT TILL DATE YET U HAVENT QUESTION IT. THEY SAID THEY SAID... IS THAT ALL U HAVE? DIS IS A RED FLAG., ANY BODY WHO ACCEPTS THINGS BCUZ THEY SAID IS AN EXAMPLE OF IGNORANT PERSON.


3RD... I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION... HOW ARE ANIMALS FUNCTIONING WITHOUT MANUAL ND URE TELLING ME U ATE A FRUIT... CAN U PLS THINK FOR URSELF FOR ONCE? HOW DOES DIS ANSWER D QUESTION? U MADE A CLAIM ND AM ASKING FOR EVIDENCE DEN URE SAYING U ATE FRUIT.... U ND WHO? U C HOW TO KNOW LIES, U DON'T ANYTHING TO SAY OUTSIDE D BIBLE... IT HAS BEEN SET DEEP INTO UR BRAIN U CANT THINK NO MORE... ITS NOT ONLY FRUIT... ITS VEGETABLE

OGA, DON'T MAKE CLAIMS U CAN'T PROVE... DON'T SHOW UR IGNORANCE OUTSIDE. NOBODY NEEDS A MANUAL TO LIVE... THE THING THAT HAS EVER NEEDED A MANUAL ARE NON-LIVING THINGS.... IF U CAN PROVE ME WRONG.

LASTLY, I MAKE A CLAIM AND AM TELLING U AGAIN... THERE IS NO POWER IN D BIBLE OR CHURCH OR JESUS NAME... AND I WILL USE REALITY TO PROVE U AGAIN.

WHEN I TALK, I TALK ON THINGS ANYONE CAN CONFIRM.... NOT THINGS NOBODY CAN CONFIRM.... URE TELLING ME ABOUT FRUIT, ABOUT PAUL ND SO ON.... WHO HAS CONFIRMED ANY OF THIS?


MAN... WISE UP!!!

Dtruthspeaker:
I'm Baaack! So I continue!

Good you said "EVERYTHING GIVEN TO US". True!

But have we "Everything"? No, we do not! I see everyone, including my former self struggling and scrambling for the same things! What to eat, drink, great job, pussy that does not cheat, plans working out, nice house and cars, all these acquired with ease and peace.

But None, Having them all. One is poor, another is rich but no kids another is fine but hates his wife/husband, another suffers stagnancy and dissatisfaction etc you know these things.

And then My Manual, the Bible, has already told me, actually, it told the various ends of all these things Loong before I ever read it, WHICH I SAW TO BE TRUE in me, in my family, neighbours, society and world, WOW! EVEN THE END OF THE SHITS I HAVE NOT YET DONE BUT WAS PLANNING TO DO!

Men, Then Imagine Seeing The Ends of the Things Which I Have Not Yet Done But Was Planning To Do, NOW PLAYING OUT EXACTLY AS IT WAS WRITTEN IN MY FAMILY, NEIGHBOURS, FRIENDS, ENEMIES, ETC WOW, What a Great Stop I had, if I had sense, and I think I do cos i like to have sense.

After seeing these things coming to pass as the Bible would say or happening as we would say, men, I went in there to play the predicting game and wow, it Scored a Perfect 100% Accuracy.

Then, I knew that I has the Secrets of This World in my hand and Nobody has it!

I Never let That Book out of my hand nor my sight!

And then it tells me that if I do things it's way, I would have All the things that I ever wanted and all the things that I did not know to want.

Permit me Again!

UR WRITING IS CONFUSING... I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND U OR NOT... BUT LET ME SUMMARISE WAT I GET FROM IT.

U MEAN TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED TO LIVE. ND DEN U MADE MENTION OF MATERIAL THINGS NEEDED TO LIVE OR WAT?

IF THAT'S WAT URE SAYING THEN URE WRONG AGAIN. BEFORE THINGS ARE, PEOPLE WERE AND PPL STILL LIVE WITHOUT THEM.

ND THEN U CONTINUE TO SAY THINGS LIKE U KNOW WAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE IT HAPPENS,
KNOW D SECRET OF D WORLD, ETC ...LOLS
MANY PPL INCLUDING MYSELF KNOWS ALL DIS AND WE ARE NOT BIBLE OR QURAN BLVR SO WAT ARE U DRIVING AT?

I WON'T SAY MUCH CUZ UR MSG ISNT CLEAR.

ojuu4u:
Best answer so far, but I were you I wouldn't have answered him, he don't want to seek knowledge but want to attack, no amount of explanation you shed on it that he would be convinced.

BEST ANSWER TO U BCUZ U DON'T ALSO KNOW. UR CASE IS LIKE A BOY CLAPPING FOR A BOY ANSWERING 2+2=6.

YOU THINK I DON'T WANT THE ANSWERS? LOLS... AN EDUCATED CHRISTIAN AMONG U COULD HAVE BEEN CLOSE BUT NONE OF ARE EVEN CLOSE BCUZ U PPL DON'T EVEN KNOW D BIBLE U HOLD. IF U WANT TO UNDERSTAND GO READ RABBIS BOOKS AND LET THEM INTERPRET FOR U.

LOLS.... CHURCH GOERS... FOLLOWERS, THAT'S ALL U ALL ARE.

Dtruthspeaker:
i was the child adults called stubborn because if it ain't True, I won't listen and if it's True, i am going to Test it's range and capacity.

So Priests (No Self Appointed MOGs then only priests) did not and could not get through to me.

I found God through the Bible for myself, directly.



Because every Product Requires it's Manual for Full Utlization of All the Facilities in it for Eternal Lasting Use and Enjoyment Without Bringing it to an End because of Destruction!



Many! But you had to raise the bar with "THE NATION" Requirement.

A nation is full of different people doing the same thing, which is, Wickedness, One to Another.

I Separate myself and do what God Recommends we do, which is To Do Good.

Therefore I Do All the Good that I can Do and I am Loving the Results, Exactly As the Bible Said!



Oh yes!



Simple! Because Like You, He Knows That I Do Not Listen and that is Besides The Fact That I Have Just Gotten A Hang On How To Play The Games I Came to Meet inThis World to My Favour, so of course it would not be easy to just Abandon my Game Plan for a Plan That Does Not Appear to Make Sense ON THE FIRST VIEW!

BUT AFTER INVESTIGATION, I SAW THAT, THAT IS THE PLAN THAT SHOULD BE DONE AND THEY WORK.

And Besides EVERYBODY had the same plan I earlier had so of course they were going to counter it I had implemented it, and I will lose. And I hate losing.

But I saw No One Lost Using God's Plan and oh, they did not just Win, they won Big Time.

Like I said, I love Winning!



When you are doing what everyone else is doing, can you say that you have thought outside the box?

COOL ANSWERS.... LET'S GET TO IT THEN.

YOU SAID U WERE STUBBORN ND SO ON BUT U CHANGED BCUZ OF D BIBLE RIGHT? OKAY, SO DOES WHO WERE ALSO ONCE IN UR SITUATION(STUBBORN MORE THAN U OR WORST THAN STUBBORN SELF) AND DIDN'T READ THE BIBLE BUT CHANGED, WHO CHANGED THEM? THINK ABOUT IT... THERE ARE PPL WHO ARE GOOD ND THEY NEVER READ OR BELIEF IN D BIBLE, SO WHO MADE THEM SO?

U ALSO SAID U FOUND GOD(JEHOVAH) READING THE BIBLE, LOLS... SO THOSE WHO WROTE THE BIBLE HOW DID THEY FIND GOD(JEHOVAH) ?SINCE THEY HAD NO BIBLE TO READ

2ND... U SAID EVERY PRODUCT NEEDS A MANUAL TO FUNCTION...LOLS, NOT A PRODUCT OF NATURE, MAYBE MAN MADE PRODUCT. IF YOU INSIST THEN TELL ME WHICH MANUAL THE ANIMALS,TREE,WATER ETC USE BEFORE THEY FUNCTION.

HUMANS ARE BORN WITH POWER AND SENSES NEEDED TO LIVE ON EARTH AND AFTERLIFE. JUST LIKE THE BIRDS, IT IS BORN WITH WINGS... IT ONLY NEEDS TO GROW IT. THE SAME APPLIES TO HUMANS. JUST LOOK AT D REALITY FOR A SEC... IN CHURCHES,MOSQUES,SHRINE ND SO ON... IS THE POWER IN THE BUILDING OR THE PEOPLE? SURELY ITS IN THE PEOPLE... THE POWER IS NOT IN D BIBLE, QURAN, TRIPIKITA, TANAKH OR ANY... WE HUMANS HAVE EVERYTHING GIVEN TO US... BOOKS LIKE THE BIBLE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE RATHER NOT MAKE US KNOW THIS TRUTH, WE WERE TOLD TO BE PRAYING FOR ALL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE...

I LOVE REALITY... NOT BOOKS... JUST PROVE ME WRONG SIR.


3RD... YOU SAID THE BIBLE GOD(JEHOVAH) HAS HELPED U ALOT...ONE OF THEM IS MAKING YOU LIVE A GOOD LIFE(NO WICKEDNESS ND ALL)... GOOD IF U TRULY DO THAT, NOW I ASK YOU... THOSE WHO DIDN'T READ D BIBLE AND ARE ALSO GOOD HOW DID THEY DO IT? DO YOU THE MOST PEACEFUL RELIGION ON EARTH IS BUDDHISM? FIND OUT ABOUT PEOPLE THEY CALL DRUIDS AS WELL, GO TO VILLAGES AND LOOK AT PEOPLE LIVING SO GOOD ND THEY DON'T KNOW D BIBLE GOD(JEHOVAH)... THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVING IN FOREST, SOME HAVE BEEN FOUND ND SOME ARE YET TO BE FOUND... THOSE FOUND WERE ALSO LIVING SO WELL ND SO GOOD....

SO I ASK YOU SIR, WHICH BOOK DID THEY READ TO BECOME GOOD? WHICH GOD ARE THEY WORSHIPPING TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO ND WHAT NOT TO DO? ALSO, WHATEVER U THINK JEHOVAH HAS DONE FOR U, LOOK AROUND U AND SEE IF THOSE WHO DOESN'T BELIEF IN JEHOVAH HAS D SAME OR MORE AND THEN ASK URSELF WHO DID IT FOR THEM.

4TH.... U SAID THE THINGS WRITTEN IN IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT D GOD WHO CREATES U WOULD SAY? OKAY LETS LOOK AT FEW OF THEM.

A).. WOULD A GOD WHO CREATED EVERY BEING LOOK AT ONE LESSER THAN ANOTHER? THE BIBLE TEACHES DAT... GOD IN D BIBLE(JEHOVAH) SUPPORTED SLAVERY... HE ASKED D JEWS TO KILL ND ENSLAVE OTHERS HE CREATED... D BIBLE SAID JERUSALEM OR D JEWS ARE FIRST CLASS ND U ND UR COUNTRY MEMBERS ARE 2ND CLASS...

B)... THE GOD IN THE BIBLE ALSO KILLED THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT SOULS TO PUNISH ONE WRONG MAN. THE KILLING OF ALL THE MEW BORN CHILDREN OF EGYPT(EVEN DOU ITS A FAKE STORY...HAVING NO HISTORICAL PROOF)

C)... WOULD D GOD WHO CREATE U INTO A POOR FAMILY PUNISH U FOR NOT BEING RICH? THAT'S D CASE OF D BIBLE...WHERE JEHOVAH SAID ALL DOSE WHO WILL NOT FOLLOW HIM WILL BE PUNISHED...FUNNY ENOUGH NONE O USE CHOOSE WHERE WE WANT TO BE BORN TO. THOSE BORN IN SAUDI AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES A MUSLIM, JAPAN BECOMES SHITO,KOREA BUDDHA, DOSE IN FOREST WHERE UR HUMAN HAS EXPLORED YET ARE SPIRITUAL PEOPLE.... THINK ABOUT IT, WOULD THE ONE WHO CREATES US DO THIS?

D)...WOULD D GOD WHO CREATES EARTH WITH ERROR WRITE A BOOK WITH SO MANY ERRORS, INCONSISTENCE AND INCOHERENCE? JUST LOOK AT HOW DIVIDED CHRISTIANS ARE BCUZ OF THE BIBLE... EVERYONE HAS THEIR UNDERSTANDING BCUZ OF THE ERRORS,INCONSISTENCE ND INCOHERENT IN IT... A CHRISTIAN IN DIS SECTION JUST SAID ALL OF U WHO DOESN'T BELONG TO HIS SECT(J.W) ARE GOING TO HELL...JUST IMAGINE... A GOD WHO CREATES EVERYTHING SO CLEAR ND PLAIN WOULD NOT WRITE HIS WORD TO COURSE SO MUCH CONFUSION LIKE DIS.


I HAVE MANY OTHERS... U DIGEST THIS.


LASTLY.... I ASKED WHY HE WOULD SEND SM1 FROM ANODA COUNTRY TO COME ND SHOW HIM TO U... UR ANSWER ISN'T CLEAR DOU SO I WILL JUST DIS... HOPE U KNOW D SAME PPL(TEAM) WHO BROUGHT U D BIBLE KILLED UR FATHERS... THEY STOLE THEIR PROPETIES ND DESTROYED THEM AND BCUZ OF THEM OUR COUNTRY IS D WAY IT IS TODAY... SO U THINK A GOD WHO CREATED U WOULD DO DIS TO U? HE DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY AMONG D MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN UR OWN TRIBE OR COUNTRY TO COME TO U BUT HE HAD TO GO TO PPL WHO WOULD COME AND ENSLAVE U? ARE THINKING SIR? PLS DO...


U SAID IF AM DOING WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING CAN I SAY HAVE THOUGHT OUTSIDE D BOX? THE ANSWER IS NO... BCUZ I DON'T DO WAT OTHERS ARE DOING( I.E FOLLOW FOLLOW, THINKING WITHIN D RELIGIOUS CIRCLE, NOT QUESTION BELIEFS, NOT LETTING FEAR CONTROL ME, ABLE TO DIVIDE POLITICS FROM SPIRITUALITY ETC) THAT'S WHY I GET TO KNOW WE'VE BEEN LIED TO ALL OUR LIVES. D MAJORITY ARE DOING WAT URE DOING NOW BUT ONLY FEW ARE DOING WAT AM DOING SO U C WHO HAS THOUGHT OUTSIDE D BOX NOW?

WHERE U ARE TODAY, I WAS THERE BEFORE... I OPENED MY MIND AND STARTED LEARNING... UNLIKE U WHERE U ARE THOUGHT WHAT TO AND HOW TO THINK... I THOUGHT MYSELF EVERYTHING BY LEARNING FROM EVERYONE....

I FOUND GOD(NOT BIBLE GOD CUZ IT DOESN'T EXIST) WHEN I LOST RELIGION. A GOD WITH NO ERROR, MISTAKES, INCONSISTENCE OR INCOHERENCE OR WICKEDNESS OR CONFUSION... I ONLY FOUND GOD AFTER I ALLOW MYSELF, AFTER I STARTED LEARNING WITH OPEN MIND AND STARTED THINKING DEEPER.


A GREAT TEACHER DON'T TEACH U WHAT TO THINK, HE TEACHES U HOW TO THINK. OPEN UR MIND MAN...


WHEN YOU READ THE HISTORY OF THE BIBLE, YOU WOULD KNOW THE FACTS(READ FROM EVERY SOURCE NOT ONE SOURCES), WHEN YOU READ HISTORY OF MANKIND THEN U WOULD UNDERSTAND D BIBLE HAS LITTLE TO TEACH... WHEN U STUDY OTHER PEOPLES RELIGION THEN U WOULD SEE HOW MUCH D BIBLE COPIED FROM OTHERS.... WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AND U LOOK AT REALITY THEN U SEE THE CONTRADICTION.

I KNOW WOULDN'T STILL UNDERSTAND ALL DIS BUT I WILL ADVICE U JUST LEARN ON UR OWN... THAT'S ALL. U DON'T NEED TO ARGUE, ACCEPT OR DISCARD WAT HAVE WRITTEN. A GOOD STUDENT IS ALWAYS READY TO LEARN AND LEARN ONLY FOOLS THINKS WHAT THEY IS OKAY.

IF U NEED HELP ON UR RESEARCH... I WILL PROVIDE GUIDES. SHALOM

Image123:
Omo ghana. You seem to know so much about the Holy Ghost and what He should do than those who have Him.



What i have stated is what is clearly taught all over scriptures. BTW, can you try writing in normal cases like you can?
Like i said earlier, you have no aim of thinking or understanding, i don't envy such position. However, i must remind you that it is irrational to blindly close your eyes to numerous scriptures and force your interpretation on one verse or phrase. The whole Bible teaches several times that God is eternal, He has no beginning. Genesis is not His beginning but the human race beginning. The fact that you cannot comprehend or accept this little point speaks the whole about you, an unserious fellow.
Try and learn instead of wasting your time and the time of others.



Professor, kindly show us where this is found according to the Bible.





People interprete all text in different ways. That's why there are grades in the academics.



The definition of thinking is to agree with you. You must possess quite a small mind.

LOLS... AM SURE YOU HAVE READ THROUGH THE ANSWERS OF YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIANS AND ONE OF THEM EVEN SAID YOU ARE GOING TO HELL BCUZ U AREN'T PART OF THER SECT(LOL). ANYWAYS... U SAW THE DIFFERENT ANSWERS GIVEN? ALL OF THEN CLAIM THEIRS IS THE RIGHT ANSWER ND THAT IS WAT D BIBLE SAYS ND U TOO ARE SAYING URS IS D RIGHT ANSWER... AM SURE IF WE CALL OTHERS THEY TOO WILL GIVE THEIR VERSIONS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM URS ND OTHERS.... THATS HOW FAR U'LL ARE..., ND U'LL CLAIM TO BE USING SOME HOLY GHOST WHO TEACHES... IF THERE BE ANY HOLY GHOST, WHY THEN DO ALL OF YOU DON'T AGREE ON ONE THING? EVEN TWO MEMBERS FROM THE SAME CHURCH HAS DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE.... SO WHATS D WORK OF D H.G EXACTLY? CAN'T U SEE EVERYONE IS JUST USING THEIR INTELLECT ND NO H.G NO WHERE.... ITS JUST A LIE( CANT U SEE FOR HEAVENS SAKE?)


ANYWAYS LET ME ANSWER U SMALL...

GEN 1.2 SAID EVERYTHING WAS DARK,VOID ND EMPTY THEN JEHOVAH DIVIDED DARKNESS FROM LIGHT...ALL FROM THE BEGINNING.

HERE IS ENGLISH LANGUAGE, WHAT IS DIVIDED MEANS ITS IN EXISTENCE ND NOT CREATED... SO DARKNESS ND LIGHT WERE 2GDR UNTIL THEY WERE DIVIDED OR SEPARATED... THEY WERE THERE FROM THE BEGINNING(ETERNITY) AND I REPEAT GENESIS 1 NEVER SAID THE BEGINNING WAS FOR HUMANS... ITS CLEAR ENOUGH TO HE UNDERSTOOD UNLESS ONE WANTS TO START USING TRICKS LIKE URE DOING.


NOTHING WAS THERE IN THE BEGINNING... IT WAS DARKNESS ALONE... THEN HEAVEN ND EARTH WAS CREATED(NOT HERE IT SAID CREATED NOT DIVIDED OR SEPARATED)... THIS HEAVEN IS WHERE URE PROMISED TO GO(WHERE UR GOD LIVES). SO WHERE WAS HE BEFORE HE CREATED D HEAVEN? WHO CREATED DARKNESS SINCE IT WAS THERE IN D BEGINNING? NONE OF U HAS D ANSWER CUZ D BIBLE DOESNT AV D ANSWER... ALL U CAN DO IS TWIST ND CON IT.



YOU ASKED ME TO LEARN, LOLS... AM NOT BRAGGING BUT AM VERY CERTAIN HAVE FAR LEARNT THAN(U CAN PUT ME TO TEST)... I JUST DIDN'T LEARN LIKE U DO CUZ AM NOT IN A CIRCLE LIKE U(U C U WERE TOT HOW TO ND WHAT TO THINK ND LEARN) BUT I LEARN ALL.... QURAN, TANAKH, TRIPIKITAH,BIBLE TO NAME A FEW.... ALL HAS BEEN LEARNT ND AM STILL LEARNING CUZ KNOWLEDGE HAS NO END BUT ASIDE THE BIBLE, HAVE U LEARNT SOMETHING ELSE? EVEN THE BIBLE AM SURE U HAVEN'T EVEN FINISH THE NEW TESTAMENT BEFORE NOT TO TALK OF THE OLD BUT AM DONE WITH ALL NOT EVEN ONCE AND AM STILL READING ... THAT'S HOW COME I CAN FIGURE OUT EERY LIES IN IT.... I KNOW IT LIKE D BACK OF MY HAND(LOL).



IF YOU WOULD ACTIVATE YOUR SLEEPING BRAIN AND ALSO LEARN YOU WOULD KNOW THE TRUTH. AM NOT ASKING U TO ACCEPT OR BELIEF WAT AM SAYING... AM NOT TELLING U WAT TO THINK, AM ONLY TELLING YOU TO START THINKING.

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX UVE BEEN PUT IN. IN THE WORLD OF RELIGION(EVERYTHING LIMITED) BUT IN THE WORLD OUTSIDE RELIGION, THERE IS NO LIMITATION.

SHALOM

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o!

So this is what you carry in your head and you're thinking you know something shey?

Well let me enlighten you.

The laws in the Bible is almost 4,000 years and not 2,000, it was first revealed to Moses then the Israelites kept bragging over it that's how other nations began borrowing from the laws of the Jews.
You don't know what the group name "Christian" means yet you want to educate others about religion, that's where you short yourself in the foot my guy. If with all these your braggadocios you could call all those claiming Christians "Christians" then it means you're lost completely. Because from the way i'm seeing through your write-up you must have been to school and i can't imagine someone like that tagging a mechanic with the label "Lawyer" all because most mechanics thought they're lawyers!
My guy you don't know a single thing about Christianity, you're just following the tradition of man-made religions claiming Christian, go and study the man Jesus first, thoroughly meditate on his teachings and doctrines before coming to argue about what you don't know.
For your information, the one and only TRUE Christian group today are less than 9m throughout the earth. They don't participate in wars, they don't lift up weapons for any reason, they welcome people from all races as normal humans having the right to live, they have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally, they're known as Jehovah's Witnesses.
All other religions claiming Christians are lying!
Sorry my guy if you're not ready to find out what Jesus laid down as principles but concluded that all those claiming Christians are his followers, then you're complete novice thinking you have what it takes to educate others!

OH NO!!! I KNOW RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED BUT J.W ARE BRAINWASH IS TRIPLE. AREN'T U D SAME SET OF PEOPLE WHO REFUSE BLOOD DONATION BCUZ OF SOME BIBLE? OH NO!!!... UR OWN BRAINWASH IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL.... U EVEN BELIEVE ONLY YOUR SECT IS D TRUE XTIANS AND OTHERS ARE FAKE JUST BCUZ UR CHURCH TOLD U SO..... WISE UP PLS.


WHY DON'T U WANT TO LEARN OUTSIDE THE BIBLE? U ASKED ME TO STUDY ABOUT JESUS, THEN DIRECT ME TO ANY HISTORICAL EVIDENCE OR BOOK ABOUT JESUS TO STUDY FROM. LITTLE DID YOU KNOW JESUS HAS NO PLACE IN HISTORY... HIS NAME APPEARS ONLY IN THE BIBLE AND THE BIBLE ISN'T AN HISTORY BOOK. IF YOU CAN PROOF TO ME JESUS EXISTED, I WILL JOIN UR CHURCH. JUST SHOW ME ONE HISTORICAL FACT OF JESUS EXISTENCE AND I WILL JOIN YOU.... AND I WILL SHOW U HISTORICAL EVIDENCES OF PEOPLE WHO LIVED BEFORE JESUS... I CAN EVEN SHOW U THEIR PICTURES.


LITTLE DID YOU ALSO KNOW MOSES, ABRAHAM, JOSEPH,JACOB ETC HAS NO PLACE IN HISTORY... ALL THOSE NONSENSE STORIES U READ ABOUT JOSEPH AND PHARAOH, MOSES GOING TO PROMISED LAND, NOAH ND CO ARE ALL CONNED LIES TO DECEIVE GULLIBLE PEOPLE LIKE YOU. IF YOU WANT TO PROVE ME WRONG, JUST SHOW ME ANY EVIDENCE OF ANY OF THESE CHARACTERS... HISTORICAL EVIDENCE(NOT BIBLE EVIDENCE)... SHOW ME JUST ONE EVIDENCE OF THEM... TELL ME THE NAME OF THE PHARAOH MOSES ND JOSEPH DID ALL THAT WAS SAID THEY DID.... AM WAITING.


LASTLY, YOU THINK THE WORLD WAS A GLOBAL VILLAGE AS IT IS TODAY IN 4,000YEARS AGO? LOLS.... I JUST TOLD U U NEED TO LEARN. THE JEWS AS U KNOW THEM TODAY HAS NO HISTORY AS FAR BACK TO 4,000YEARS(IF THEY DO SHOW ME), AFRICANS DO... OUR HISTORY IS AS FAR AS 4,800 YEARS... WITH EVIDENCE AND PROOFS AND WRITINGS. SHOW ME THAT OF THE JEWS.... IN THE WORLD AFRICA HAS THE OLDEST BOOK IN THE WORLD AND THIS BOOK HAS LAWS INSIDE THEM... FAR OLDER THAN THE OLD TESTAMENT STORY SELF(I DOUBT U KNOW DIS ALSO...LOL). YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD TOOK THE LAW OF MOSES(OH NO. IGNORANT PAA), PLS WHERE DID YOU GET THIS FROM? DOES THIS CHINESE,JAPAN,JAPAN,AFRICAN,KOREANS ETC EVEN KNOW WHO JEWS ARE 4,000 YEARS AGO? OH DIS BOY... LEARN A LITTLE PLS.,.. NOT FROM ME, JUST GO OUTSIDE AND LEARN THAT'S ALL AM ASKING.... AM NOT ASKING U TO LEARN FROM ME OR BELIEF ME OR THINK HOW I WANT U TO THINK.... AM ONLY ASKING YOU TO GO OUT AND LEARN ON UR OWN, THINK ON UR OWN AND DECIDE ON UR OWN. STOP LIVING IN THE SHADOW OF LIES AND DECEIT.

THE BIBLE SAID SO SO ITS TRUE IS A FOOLISH WAY TO THINK... PLS WISE UP!!!

AkinwaleJJ:
Do you have a child?

Can you feel comfortable living next to homo and your little child know these people are into same sex marriage?

And you even jumped to saying the laws humans are using is not coined out of religion!

Keep deceiving yourself!

I DON'T NEED TO JUST LEAVE WITH THEM, THEY CAN ALSO BE MY FRIENDS.

AND I ASKED YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION, HOW DOES LIVING AFFECTS YOU? WHAT CRIME HAVE THEY COMMITTED AGAINST ANYBODY?

AND LASTLY, IF YOU CLAIM NATION'S LAW ARE CAVED FROM RELIGION, THEN TELL ME WHICH RELIGION NIGERIA LAW WAS CAVED FROM.... HAVE ASKED U TO OPEN UR SENSES AND THINK.

CONSTITUTION IS EVEN OLDER ANY RELIGION... DO YOU KNOW THE OLDEST RELIGION IN THE WORLD AND THE OLDEST CONSTITUTION IN THE WORLD?

AM SURE U DON'T AND U WON'T LEARN ALSO SINCE UR PASTORS HAVE CHAIN UR BRAIN TO ONLY LEARN WITHIN A CIRCLE. ITS TIME TO FREE YOURSELF.... LEARN,UNLEARN,THINK DEEPLY AND DON'T BE AFRAID.


DON'T JUST FOLLOW BELIEFS WITH NO BEARING, EVIDENCE OR PROOF OF TRUTH WHATSOEVER. WISE UP!!!

Image123:
From your reply to some of my people and your ignore(perhaps deliberate or devil induced) of Ihe's answer, it is clear that you don't want an answer. You just want to vent and perhaps scorn. Nonetheless, i will re-answer since i already shuk mouth inside the thread somehow.

1. The question you failed to note or ask is "What beginning, whose beginning". Your beginning is not necessarily my beginning so perspective matters. The Bible clearly teaches that God has no beginning but is eternal, so it is certainly not His beginning or autobiography here. It is man's beginning. Not even earth's beginning in focus but man's. If anyone of you unintelligible ones know about building houses, you will observe that the beginning of the house is not the beginning of the builder. It remains crazy to ask where was the builder in the beginning if he built the house.

2. Jesus. Bite yourselves and spare us the noise of barking like rabid dogs.

3. God's torchlight, what else and who cares? So after you know the light, you will believe God and become born again or what?

LOLS... ANOTHER FUNNY ANSWER FROM THE ONE WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE THE HOLY GHOST.

IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH... URE SAYING ITS MAN'S BEGINNING... HEH!!! E B SO U DULL REACH OR NA ENGLISH CONFUSE U? NO BE ONLY MAN'S BEGINNING, ITS DOG'S OWN.

DARKNESS WAS ALSO ETERNITY ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE... IT TOOK DIVISION OF IT TO READ TIME BUT U WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN READ SIMPLY ENGLISH AND YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW UR SENSES TO WORK AS WELL.



A CLAIMED WORD OF GOD WITH SO MANY INTERPRETATION FROM ALL THOSE WHO CLAIM TO HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT.... THINK MAN, NATURE HAS NO ERROR... IF YOU BOOK IS FROM GOD, IT CAN'T HAVE ERROR ND IT WON'T BE INCONSISTENCE AND SENSELESS AS IT IS. JUST THINK ABOUT IT... THINK OUTSIDE THE CIRCLE YOU'RE..... I KNOW URE TOT NOT WAT TO THINK, HOW TO THINK AND WHAT NOT TO THINK BUT URE AN ADULT NOW SO BEHAVE LIKE ONE.

AM NOT ASKING YOU TO BELIEF ME... AM ASKING YOU TO ACTIVATE YOUR SENSES AND LEARN TO UNLEARN.

OUTSIDE THE WORLD OF RELIGION LIES A WHOLE BIGGER WORLD.

Hoojay:
Heya sowi...as much as you're getting comfortable...you should as well remember that education is very important.

Education is important not school bro.... One can be educated in many things without going to school. Unless he desires to be a professional at some certain jobs like lawyer,doctors pilots etc... one doesn't need school just to make money.

However am not condemning skull but am saying that its not needed to make money in many cases.


Someone like me just go skull for skulling sake... I no even know where my cert de CUZ I never use am for once... na street we take make am not skull.

persius555:
Yes, global for the wrong reason.

Ure d first person out of about a thousand comment have read on dis issue... none of them sees this protest as useless.

After SARS ends, what else? would that develop the country? would that bring peace, food to d table? you won't see them protest on good reasons never... only useless useless things.


Who should protest against removing that half died man called president?

I tire for this country jaare.

Vyzz:
End time priest

BEGINNING TIME PRIEST WERE WORST... THEY WERE KILLERS ND THESE ONES ARE JUST FORNICATORS.... WHICH IS BETTER?

AkinwaleJJ:
What stops a boy from sexually molesting his own mum if he founds her attractive?
ATHEISM harbour lesbianism, homosexuality, bestiality, transgenders just to mention a few.
What rules from human perspective can curb such practices when everyone feels like making use of his/her own brains to determine right and wrong?

THE CONSTITUTION IS WHAT WE USE NOT THE BIBLE OR QURAN AND THE CONSTITUTION IS WRITTEN BY MANY WHO ARE NOT RELIGIOUS.... EVEN THE RELIGIOUS ONES ARE MOSTLY HYPOCRITES.

ALSO WHAT STOPS A BOY FROM SEXUALLY MOLESTING HIS MUM IS NATURE ITSELF. BEFORE... COMMON SENSE HAS BEEN THERE BEFORE RELGION WAS INVENTED AND IT STILL DERE. AND TO TALK OF LESBIANISM,TRANSGENDER, BISEXUAL ETC... THAT IS RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS... IT HAS NO ABSOLUTE EFFECT ON THE WELLBEING OF ANYONE. HOW DOES SOMEONE BEING A TRANSGENDER,HOMOSEXUAL ETC AFFECTS YOU? TELL ME HOW SOMEONE'S DECISION TO SATISFY HIMSELF SEXUALLY AFFECTS YOU IN ANY WAY.... IF ANYONE WANTS TO Bleep A TREE TO SATISFY HIMSELF, THE PERSON IS FREE TO SO FAR AS THE ACT DOESN'T DAMAGE THE PERSON OR 2 OR 3RD PARTY THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE UR HEADACHE.... SO FAR SO GOOD.... HOMO ND D REST HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN TO BE DANGEROUS TO HUMAN OR THEMSELVES SO WHATS UR PROBLEM?

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what i believe the OP should have given a deeper thought, because people need to understand where you're driving at.
I'm not ready to educate an atheist on the concept of God, all i want the Atheists to know is The human society has been existing for ages with this idea, and so far so good humans have maintained PEACE to a certain degree. Scraping the idea as unwanted will led to the end of mankind within the next 20 years!
Why?
Because all the laws protecting the interest of the week, old, poor and so many other less privileged in the society was tapped from religion.
So if we remove the concept today, can you please tell me what stops a boy of 20 from beating up a 65 years old man whom he found wanting?
Or the human laws that stops the young girls from attacking a grandma who married off their boyfriend all because she(old woman) can afford him?
You Atheists only think within the circumference of what you're seeing now, you're not using your brains to think deeply about the consequences of scraping religion completely.
Let me tell you today that all the ideas the Atheists might have in training up their children still correlates with the laws from Religion.
Your son has nothing hindering him from giving you a dirty slap if you tell him rubbish after causing his birth without enough money to make him live like the Prince of Dubai!

WAO!!! THIS IS THE MOST ILLITERATE WRITE UP HAVE SEEN THIS WEEK BRO... YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.... WHERE DO I START TO EDUCATE U FROM? CHAI!!!

FIRSTLY, EVERYBODY AGAINST ISLAM,CHRISTIANITY ARE ALL NOT ATHEIST... ATHEIST IS A NAME GIVEN TO "A" PERSON WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN WHAT CAN'T BE PROVED AND ATHEIST IS NOT A GROUP OR AN ORGANIZATION... ITS A NAME CALLED AN INDIVIDUAL. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ATHEIST AND ALSO KNOWS THAT UR RELIGION IS FAKE AND MEANT TO CONTROL YOUR MINDS LIKE IT IS DOING NOW.


2NDLY, HISTORY HAS PROVEN THAT HUMANS MADE UP LAWS,CONSTITUTIONS THAT THEY USE TO GOVERN THEMSELVES LONG BEFORE RELIGION WAS INVENTED. DO YOU KNOW THE OLDEST CONSTITUTION IN THE WORLD IS OVER 4,000YEARS? YOUR RELIGION IS A LITTLE OVER 2,000YEARS SO U C UR RELIGION DIDN'T BRING ANYTHING NEW.... HUMANS ALREADY KNOW ALL THAT IT CAME TO SAY.


HISTORY ALSO HAS PROVEN HOW HUMANS ALSO HAS BEATEN RELIGION SEVERALLY BY SIMPLY THINKING BY THEMSELVES. DO YOU KNOW IF IT WASN'T FOR PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT OUTSIDE RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS... SLAVERY WOULD STILL BE EXISTING? YOUR GOD NEVER THOUGHT OR COMMANDED SLAVERY TO BE ABOLISHED... HUMANS DID AND THIS HUMANS ARE THOSE WHO DIDN'T LET RELIGION DETERMINE THEIR THINKING.

3RDLY, MAJORITY OF ATHEIST HAS DONE MORE GOOD FOR HUMANITY THAN ANY OTHER PEOPLE ON EARTH. DO YOU KNOW MAJORITY OF THE TECHNOLOGY YOU ENJOY TODAY WAS MADE BY AN INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ATHEIST? THE SCHOOL TOPICS YOU ARE THOUGHT TODAY ARE MOSTLY DEVELOPED BY ATHEIST.... IF HUMANS HAD ALLOW THE BIBLE OR QURAN TO BE THEIR GUIDE, BY NOW WE WOULD STILL BE LIVING IN IRON AGE CUZ WE ALL WILL BE WAITING FOR JESUS 2ND COMING ND WONT LIVE TO PREPARE FOR 100,000YEARS TO COME BUT WE BCUZ WE KNOW ITS FAKE, THEY HAVE PREPARED FOR THOUSANDS OF CENTURIES TO COME. IF WE HAD ALLOWED RELIGIOUS BOOKS TO GOVERN US, THEN CHILDREN WOULD HAVE KILLED THEIR PARENT WITHOUT BEING SEEN BAD ANYONE BCUZ UR RELIGION TEACHES TO STONE PEOPLE WHO TURN AWAY FROM THE RELIGION TO DEATH... IN FACT IT TEACHES TO RAPE,DEFILE,ETC SO IMAGINE HOW THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN IF IT WAS THE LAW BEING USED... IF WE HAD FOLLOW THE BIBLE OR QURAN THEN THESE TECHNOLOGIES WOULDN'T BE EXISTING TODAY... DO YOU KNOW UR FELLOW CHRISTIANS DIDN'T WANT INTERNET BUILT? THEY DIDN'T WANT COMPUTERS ND PHONES, THEY DIDN'T WANT STREET LIGHT ND OTHERS... BUT TODAY URE ALL ENJOYING IT.


LASTLY, WHY I EMPHASIS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING IS THAT YOU THINK RELIGION BROUGHT MORALS TO THE WORLD... THAT'S WHY WE ASK YOU PEOPLE TO READ... IF YOU HAS LEARNT, YOU WOULDN'T SAY THIS.

DO YOU KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN FOREST THAT HASN'T BEEN DISCOVERED YET, SOME WHO HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED BUT REFUSE TO LEAVE THE FOREST AND LIVE AMONG OTHERS AND THERE ARE SOME WHO WERE WERE DISCOVERED RECENTLY? THESE SET OF PEOPLE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT ISLAM OR CHRISTIANITY IS... THEY DON'T HAVE RELIGION BUT THEY LEAVE IN PEACE... IN FACT MORE PEACEFUL THAN MANY PEOPLE HERE.

SO BRODA MAN... LEARN BEFORE TALKING... WE ARE NOT INVITING YOU TO BELIEF, WE ARE INVITING YOU TO LEARN AND THINK YOURSELF. IF WE WERE LYING TO YOU, I WOULD SAID YOU SHOULD BELIEF ME BUT NOPE... FIND THE TRUTH YOURSELF CUZ JTS OUT THERE... YOU JUST NEED TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX YOU ARE, YOU TO THINK AND QUESTION WHAT YOU KNOW.


OUTSIDE THE WORLD OF RELIGION, THERE IS A BIGGER WORLD OUT THERE.

Dtruthspeaker:
In this world, is there any farm without weeds? Or is there any place without air pollution?

So it is in the worship of God, pollutants must come to pollute it, hence the Instruction of The Weeds and the Tares!

WORSHIP OF GOD... AS THOUGHT TO YOU BY MAN OR BY GOD? HAVE YOU EVER SAT DOWN TO THINK FOR ONCE ABOUT UR RELIGION AND THE BIBLE?

WHERE IS IT FROM AND WHY IT WAS GIVEN YOU? WHAT BENEFIT HAVE YOU OR THE NATION DERIVED FROM IT? IS THE THINGS WRITTEN IN IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THE ONE WHO CREATED THIS WORLD WOULD SAY? WHY WOULD THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU HAVE TO SEND SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY TO COME AND TELL YOU HE CREATED YOU? JUST FOR ONCE, THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX... I UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS TO THINK CUZ U GUYS HAVE BEEN THOUGHT NOT TO QUESTION THE BIBLE BCUZ ITS FROM GOD.... GOD WOULDN'T GIVE YOU BRAINS IF HE DIDNT WANT YOU TO USE IT.


THINK THINK THINK... AM NOT ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE ME... THATS WHAT LIARS DO, AM ASKING YOU TO THINK AND KNOW THE TRUTH URSELF.

kingxsamz:
And these clowns all claim to be led by the same imaginary holy spirit.

LOLS... THEY CLAIM TO BE LEAD BY THE SPIRIT BUT NONE OF THEM AGREES ON THE SAME THING.... I WONDER IF THAT SPIRIT IS A SPIRIT OF CONFUSION OR ITS A SPIRIT WITH DIFFERENT VERSION.

THOSE PEOPLE ARE DEEPLY BRAINWASHED... THEY HAVE TOLD WHAT TO THINK AND WHAT TO THINK... ONLY WHEN THEY CAN THINK GENERALLY BEFORE THEY WILL KNOW HOW MUCH THEY HAVE BEEN FOOLED.

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong! When Something is a lie, Truth Always Destroys It!

What you have here is a case of Weeds and Tares, Garri and Sand, Milk and Salt, difficult to consume.

Besides You Have Still Not Challenged or Faulted my Answer as you did others, But I understand, It was above you and you could not find any valld error with it and I do not Insult you.

I am only Thankful To God That I have answered you and you could not even Challenge it.

TRUTH INDEED DESTROYS LIES AND THAT'S WHY TILL DATE NONE OF YOU HAVE ANY PROVE JESUS,MOSES,ABRAHAM ND CO OUTSIDE THE BIBLE.

WHEN THERE IS ONE LIE TOLD, HUNDREDS OTHERS ARE TOLD TO COVER THAT LIE AND THAT IS CASE WITH YOU GUYS. ALL OF YOU HAVE TRIED SO FAR TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AND YET NO ONE IS ABLE TO ANSWER IT BCUZ THERE IS NO ANSWER TO A LIE... DID YOU SAY YOU ANSWERED IT? LOLS...
THE ONE YOU WERE JUST WRITING WITHOUT DIRECTION?

YOU SEE I DIDNT BORDER REPLYING CUZ IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ANY SENSIBLE PERSON.

abrahamind:
God is supreme{I reply you because i saw this post.) You better ask for forgiveness. God is not a mate of any living thing. You just blasphemed. I am sorry for you. As you cant go and play with your father anyhow Dont u ever question the existense of ALMIGHT GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE TOLD AN TAUGHT. NOW MAKE USE OF YOUR BRAIN AND TALK FOR YOURSELF.

ENOUGH OF PROGRAMMING MINDS... IMAGINE SOMEONE TELLING YOU SOMETHING AND ASK YOU NOT TO QUESTION IT, A SENSE ABLE PERSON WOULD KNOW HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ASKED NOT TO QUESTION IT.


DO YOU KNOW SPIDERMAN? IF IT WAS CONVERTED INTO RELIGION, PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED IT SIMPLY BCUZ U WERE ASKED TO. UNTIL YOU MAKE USE OF YOUR SENSES.... YOU NO BETTER THAN A GOAT(NO INSULT INTENDED, ONLY POINTING OUT FACT)

kingxsamz:

Just three simple questions and these clowns are already giving different versions of the fictional story.
To make matters worse, call a Muslim, a deeper life member, a Winners chapel member, a catholic and a Jehovah witness. Then ask them these same three simple questions and watch them make fools out of themselves.
They know what I'm saying is true.
I guess they're as confused as their god.

LOLS... WHEN SOMETHING IS A LIE, THERE ARE ALWAYS DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRY TO PROVE IT

YOU'VE SEEN HOW THEY'RE TRYING HARD TO PROVE THE LIES. NONE OF THEM ANSWERED THE SAME WAY... THEY ARE GROUP OF BRAINWASHED PEOPLE I HOPE THEY CAN BE LIBERATED AND THINK FOR THEMSELVES ONE DAY.

MaxInDHouse:
Just present a human society that doesn't believe in the existence of God but then there is LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst.
I present to the whole world the Organization of Jehovah's Witnesses!
So without a presentation of a community of Atheists performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses, then you and all your Professors in ATHEISM are from the race of apes, where there is nothing like law and order!

THIS IS A MISEDUCATION MAN.... THIS IS A CLEAR EVIDENCE MANY OF YOU RELIGIOUS PEOPLE DON'T LEARN.... YOU ONLY LEARN AROUND A CIRCLE YOU ARE PUT INTO.


FIRSTLY, ATHEISM ISN'T A RELIGION OR AN ORGANIZATION OR A GROUP... IT IS JUST A NAME CALLED ON SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF GOD OR WHO DOESN'T FOLLOW DOGMA TEACHINGS. ITS NOT LIKE JEHOVAH WITNESS OR OTHERS WHICH ARE GROUPS OF PEOPLE WITH THE SAME BELIEVE.


ATHEISM DOESN'T HAVE THE LESSON, NO DOCTRINE, NO GUIDES, NO FELLOWSHIPS, NO STYLE OF LIFE OR A METHOD OR SYSTEM OF THINKING OR BEHAVIOUR.... ITS AN INDIVIDUAL THING.



AS A MATTER OF FACT, SCIENTIST ARE IN A WAY ATHEIST BECAUSE WHEN THEY ENTER THE LAB, THEY DON'T DO BELIEVES... THEY DO FACTS AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T DO BELIEFS ARE CALLED ATHEIST.





AND IF YOU LOOK ROUND YOU, YOU'RE ENJOYING THIS WORLD AND TECHS BCUZ OF ATHEIST. IF THEY HAD GONE BY YOUR BIBLE OR QURAN BELIEVES... THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PHONES,CARS,STREET LIGHTS,INTERNET, PLANES, ETC... ALL THIS ARE SOME OF THE THINGS YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIANS CONDEMN BUT NOW THEYRE USING IT.

MaxInDHouse:
You've tried really and i must commend you for a job partially done because you haven't completed the job! Your questions should have a purpose for which it was asked, and i believe in benefits!
Please your learning to think for yourself have been working for you in your room but can you point to an organized people, city or country where LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign amongst the citizens?
Just mention one and let's discuss on how they're able to achieve it without the concept of GOD. Of course everyone wants to be his own controller without anyone telling you what to do or how to think, but i've never seen or heard of any human society where the concept of God is not working with LOVE, JOY and PEACE, NEVER!
I will point to one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally in the midst of whom these qualities permeates undeniably.
They are known as Jehovah's Witnesses, in their midst they have silenced Racism and Politics for good and there is no single member who thinks of carrying weapons to kill his neighbour for any reason whatsoever!
Surprisingly they're using the Bible to achieve this. So please present a group or organization where such is achievable then i'll be prepared to discard the idea of a living GOD who is able to unite all those worshiping him from different races under the heavens and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

I LOVE YOUR WRITE UP, ITS MATURED SO LET ME DEAL WITH IT.

FIRSTLY, LET ME CORRECT THE ASCENSION THAT GOD BRINGS LOVE,JOY AND PEACE BECAUSE ITS NOT TRUE. LOVE, PEACE AND JOY IS ACHIEVED ONLY BY THE ABILITY OF HUMANS TO THINK AND GET ENLIGHTENED.

IF GOD(AS DIVINED BY ISLAM ND XTIANS) BRINGS PEACE TRULY, THEN YOUR MEMBERS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST PEACEFUL PEOPLE ON EARTH BUT THE CONTRARY IS TRUE. RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE COMMITTED THE MOST WORST KIND OF ATROCITIES ON EARTH... DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY SPREAD ACROSS COUNTRIES? ITS MOSTLY THROUGH BLOOD(A GOD OF WHO WANTS U TO HAVE PEACE WOULDN'T ASK U TO KILL SO U CAN SPREAD HIS WORD).


MANY GOOD PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO EVIL PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN GOD. AS A NORMAL HUMAN, WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING BAD, YOUR CONSCIENCE JUDGE YOU BUT WHEN THAT BAD IS DONE IN THE NAME OF GOD, YOU'RE CONSCIENCE FREE... YOU FEEL EVEN HAPPY FOR IT.

BOTH THE QURAN AND BIBLE HAS LOTS OF EVIL DEEDS IN IT THAT EVEN ME WOULDN'T DARE TO DO... THOSE SCRIPTURES PREACHED "FOR" SLAVERY,DEFILEMENT,MURDER,ETC...

A VERY CLEAR EXAMPLE I WILL GIVE YOU SO YOU COULD KNOW THE CHRISTIAN OR ISLAM GOD DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PEACE OR EVIL IS THAT IT TOOK HUMAN BEING TO LOOK AT THE EVILS LAWS IN THE BIBLE AND CHANGE THEM... GOD DID NOT STOP SLAVERY, HUMAN BEING DID. GOD DID NOT STOP DEFILEMENT, RAPE,MURDERER, HUMAN BEING DID. THIS IS A VERY CLEAR EXAMPLE THAT GOD ISN'T THE ONE WHO BROUGHT PEACE, ENLIGHTENED PEOPLE DID...ENLIGHTENED PEOPLE ARE THOSE WHO USES THEIR INTELLIGENCE TO THINK, THEY DO NOT THINK WITHIN ONLY A CIRCLE OR HAVE A SYSTEM OF PROGRAMMED TO THINK ABOUT.



NOW TALKING ABOUT YOUR REQUEST TO PRESENT ONE GROUP OR ORGANIZATION THAT LIVES PEACEFUL WITHOUT GOD.



THERE ARE MANY... FIRSTLY, LIVING PEACEFULLY DOESN'T START AS A FAMILY OR GROUP, IT STARTS AS AN INDIVIDUAL... INDIVIDUALS MAKES FAMILIES ND SO ON. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT PLACES WHERE RELIGION OR XTIAN ISLAM CONCEPT OF GOD ARE VERY IRRELEVANT BEFORE, IF NOT TRY TO VISIT SOME... YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE LIVING IN. JOY,PEACE,LOVE AND HARMONY. AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE MYSELF ND ALL THOSE WHO ATTAINS ENLIGHTEN STAGE HAS MORE PEACE THAN ANY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE I KNOW OF BCUZ WE DON'T LIVE IN DELUSION BUT WE LIVE IN LIFE. COUNTRIES WHO ARE PEACEFUL AREN'T PEACEFUL BECAUSE THEY'RE FOLLOWING GOD... THEY ARE PEACEFUL BCUZ THEY'VE ALLOWED THEIR BRAINS TO FUNCTION.

THEN I WILL PRESENT TO YOU BUDDHISM. THEY ARE KNOWN TO BE THE MOST PEACEFUL ORGANIZATION OR RELIGION IN THE WORLD BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? BUDDHISM DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOD LIKE YOUR CONCEPT...



SO MY DEAR, PEACE IS NOT ACHIEVED BY WRITING IT IN A BOOK... IT IS ACHIEVED BY HUMANS WHO USES THEIR SENSES.
HUMAN BEINGS WHO ARE NATURALLY GOOD CAN BECOME EVIL TO THEMSELVES ND THE SOCIETY JUST FOR SUPPORTING GOD BUT HUMAN BEINGS WHO ARE GOOD WILL BECOME MORE BETTER BY ALLOWING THEMSELVES TO THINK FREELY.

MaxInDHouse:
Lies! Lies!! Lies!!! But why bothered when you are so sure that it's lies?
But for the benefit of others who may want to learn from reading stuffs like this!



God created heavens means He made a place where life in spirit form will exist. he could live alone forever but from heart full of bliss he chose to give life. Heavens is the place he made for spirit creatures to reside! Psalms 115:16



Darkness connotes nothingness but waters means the stage at which God's co-worker could not continue with the assignment God gave him.
God first created one spirit creature who was always by his side when creating all other things. {Proverbs 8:22-31} God gave this creature the assignment to create the earth but after some time the creature needed enlightenment on how to forge ahead, that's why God began instructing him saying "do this or do that" Genesis 1:3
Notice that each time this creature complete any task God inspect it to see if it's perfect! Genesis 1:4



It was the stars!
They're the objects supplying light to everything in the universe!
Note that God called this light "day" and the darkness "night" meaning it has to do with what we know now as daytime and nighttime!

LOLS.... LOOK AROUND YOU AND SEE THE CREATION IF YOU WOULD FIND MISTAKE OR CONTRADICTION....BUT IN YOUR SO CALLED WORD OF GOD, ITS SO FULL OF MISTAKES,WICKEDNESS,CONTRADICTIONS,ETC..... IF ITS NOT A LIE GIVEN TO YOU BY YOUR SLAVE MASTER TO CONTROL YOU THEN WHAT IS IT? WISE UP!!!


ND JUST READ UR ANSWER, I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO CORRECT U... URE STILL A NEWBIE IN D BIBLE SO UR ANSWER IS JUST TOO SHALLOW. D QUESTION ASKED WASN'T ANSWERED U WERE JUST BETTING ROUND D BUSH.

WHERE DID UR JEHOVAH LIVED B4 HE CREATED HEAVEN? DARKNESS ND LIGHT WERE FROM D BEGINNING I.E B4 HEAVEN OF EARTH WAS CREATED SO WHO CREATED THEM? MOON ND SUN WAS CREATED IN VS16 ... GO BACK TO READ UR BIBLE WITH OPEN MIND.... U PPL HAVE BEEN TOT NOT TO QUESTION IT, U ARE PROGRAMMED ON WAT TO TINK ND HOW TO TINK.... TIME TO LIBERATE URSELF.

LEARN TO THINK URSELF.