benalvino3: Palestine is a British mandate. A British empire. It is not these Palestinian people whos identity we don't know that picked up that identity for their struggle.
benalvino3: Yes, it's war, in wars, lands are always lost. Israel gave back lands they took from Egypt and Jordan. They refuse to give the Golan Heights back to Syria because of security concerns. And they created buffer in Lebanon for the same reason.
So when Israel abuses international war, it is okay?
Starting war and expanding borders is okay as long as it is Israel. Lol.
Soon, you will be happy if Israel can annex Iran and be exporting Iranian oil. Awon land grabbers oshi
DeepSight: + Well said. The truth is that the generality of the "returnee" so called European Jews cannot be shown to be the Israelites of old. It is not surprising that most of them are noticeably white. The Israelites of old were not white.
Many Jews in Israel have been shown to have European ancestry more than semitic.
benalvino3: Exactly, it did not start in October 7. If Israel is committing genocide for a conflict that has span more than 7 decades, no one in gaza should be left.
Israel came to Palestine 🤣🤣
What is Palestine? See ignorance
Please, what is Israel? Do you know that the first prime minister of Israel, Golda Meir, carried a Palestinian passport?
raumdeuter: Israel came to their ancestral home after the UN gave them the piece of land in 1948, and since then the Palestinians and other Arab nations went to war with them which they lost every time
When you go to war and lose, there are consequences, that is what happened in Golan height from Syria, Gaza, Sinai from Egypt, West Bank from Jordan
benalvino3: It is history book. The Bible talked about the Jews, the land, the Quran talked about the Jews the land. What the bible and the Quran never mentioned are the Palestinians.
The Jews have always been there, build the first temple, conquered, they were allowed to build the second temple.
That's not a fact. Many Jews that were exiled returned to the Jewish state that was created. Jordan is supposed to be part of Israel because that was a British mandate too.
But the Jews are okay with what they got, why do the so-called Palestinians want blood and want everything?
Wrong.
Are you saying that descendants of Canaanites and Samaritans who lived in Palestine should come back after over a 1,000 years and claim part of israel/Palestine land too?
Secondly, even Jewish lawyers will tell you that there are terms like abandonment, adverse possession and usupcatiion.
If we were to use common law, the very fact that land was left by Jews for over a 1,000 years, then they have not only abandoned it but also forfeited it to those who have had possession of it.
raumdeuter: Israel was minding its business when Palestinan thugs Hamas went to kill them on October not military target but concert goers, boys and girls who went to party were graped, killed and burned
Israel was going to get Hamas thugs who hide themselves with among Palestinian civilians, if Hamas will separate themselves from the civilians you will not see casualties
Its like you punch me, I now want to punch you back then you go hide behind your 4yr old
The conflict between Israel and Gaza did not start on that October 7.
Israel has had many murderous attacks on Palestine for over 30 years.
Who threw the first blow? The Isreali came to Palestine in 1948 to create isreal and then kept on expanding israels borders and eating Palestine land.
benalvino3: This one is ignorant. Lol even the Quran said the land belongs to the Jews. Palestine is a mandate when the British empire took over from the Ottoman Empire. Go and learn basic history. There has never been a country or a state called Palestine, the time they wanted to create the state, the people who identify themselves as Palestinians rejected it because they don't want a Jewish state.
See the person calling someone ignorant.
Religious books are not history books.
The fact remains that the Jews that came to Palestine in 1948 were not linked to that area for over a 1000 years. In fact, some Palestine people have more semitic heritage than most Jews in Israel today
Damning exhibits in the thread. I remember Ijebos and the choir screaming their lungs out about no evidence. The AUSA Eric Siebert was all about protecting the swamp
So this is actually fake news and retaliation from Trump after Letitia James civil fraud suit against him.
Letitia James' office has denied any wrongdoing.
Please let us focus on Kristi Noem's 200 million dollar DHS ad which both parties agree os ridiculous
basilico: I can discuss the untimely deaths of Palestinian civilians who receive advance warning via text, radio and calls from IDF when a weapons storage in their bedroom is about to be blown up. They still refuse to evacuate preferring to die in the blast so that IDF civilian death toll keeps rising.
How about Iranians executing over 30,000 who rose to protest?
See Israeli propaganda.
1. Israel did not send warning to civilians who were shot. Also how are children and young adults who don't have phones supposed to get the warnings?
2. How does it make sense to you that about 19,000 children were killed and somehow the Israel government are innocent?
3. Can you explain how the land belongs to Israel when Plaestine people have been living there about a thousand years.
basilico: *Cross posted* I said I'm probably more well informed than many of Iranian supporters. Dr Mordecai Khadar, an Israel professor and military intelligence expert .
He explains Iran plan was to use over 20 groups surrounding Israel to overwhelm it's defences by 2023.Funded ,trained and directed the terrorist groups Hamas, Islamic jihad Hezbollah, Houthis, Iraqi militias etc to overwhelm Israel iron dome and arrow defences in one day . The groups would also invade the north and kill thousands while taking hostages . Then Iran would follow up with ballistic missiles to blow up their grid, water supply , fuel storage, airports. Iran had figured out Israel would run out of defences in 2 days. But firstly, Iran needed the atomic bomb as a deterrent to Israel or America. Iran had instructed their terrorists to wait for the order to launch the final coordinated attacks and invasion of Israel.
Unfortunately Israel and Arab nations signing on to Abraham Accords didn't go well with Sinwar. He feared if the Saudi latched on to the accords,followed by the other Sunni nations, noone would ever remember the poor,water deprived obese starving struggling Palestinians in the worlds largest open air prison. So he launched Oct 7 without explicit blessings , hoping the other militia and Iran would immediately join to annihilate Israel.
He didn't wait for the order from Iran. In other words Hamas got greedy and jumped the gun. He called the operation Al Aqsa flood. Al Aqsa is Jerusalem, Jihadist hordes would flood the Jewish capital and finish off what their Arab brothers had failed to do since 1948.
Iran's plan would have made them the heroes of all the Muslim nations. obedience4, foolishboy419
This explains why I can never support the suicidal genocidal Ayatollahs.
If it was Obama who is attacking and destroying Iran today his worshippers would be full of praise. The dictionaries would have to invent new superlatives for him. Personally I would also support him fully with no reservations. The real Obama religion cult worshippers like to accuse their opposites of being what they really are . Fullstop.
What does being a MAGA supporter have to do with being a simp for Israel?
Are you aware that Israel has killed thousands of children in Palestine? You call the Ayatollahs in Iran terrorists but how many children or people have they killed compared to Israel?
Even Americans will tell you that the usa is the most terrorist state in the world. Are you aware of the multiple countries that the US has invaded or done coups in?
budaatum: I am very certain you are aware that islam does not allow marriage of girls below the legal age in neither UK nor in the USA this thread is about, and nor does Islam codify "domestic abuse against women and even allows for s3cs slaves" anywhere, not even in Nigeria, but I guess I shouldn't expect you to accept this is your opinion of Islam and which you flatulate as fact.
This is the one area that liberals fxck up- defending Islam out of delusional tolerance.
Read the Quran before you rush to defend what you do not know.
budaatum: Tommy Robinson hating muslims because of what a muslim may have done to a family member if his is the equivalent of hating black people because one black person killed his family. That's ignorant and discriminatory!
If you hate Muslims because of your hatred of Islam, then you are prejudiced against Muslims and that's Islamophobia. It's the equivalent of racephobia, the hatred of people because of their race, just that your hate is because of others religion.
The simple fact is that people need to understand nuance. I am not a muslim and I disagree with the tenets of islam.
Islam has parts of its doctrine that struggles with human rights today. That does not mean that I will now neglect the genocide of muslims (and few christians) in Palestine or Iran.
But these MAGAnuts have anti-Arab bigotry which they hide in anti-islamic rhetoric
basilico: *As for the blue' America is a nation of immigrants. Which worked out to make it the greatest nation in history... Not everyone believes this.
I believe nations should preserve their culture, identity,traditions and values. America as a nation should not take in people who want to destroy it from within . Prosperity doesn't come from diversity and that's why I pointed out the Asian tigers. You can't keep taking in immigrants from wherever because they built the nation.
In short, Obama should not have been in America at all. He shouldn't have been president. After all, his father was an African who was different from American culture. Even Obama attended a Madrassa.
It is so funny how you people (Maga cultists) never think about the consequences of what you say.
Diversity is what made America great.
Look at the most influential people in America. You have Indians, south african, black, Asian etc in the group.
benalvino3: My point is trump can use derogatory or racist trope directed at one particular person because he 8s that particular person, because he wants to hurt the person. That does not necessarily mean Trump is a racist.
I think it is high time that people stop answering this guy. Just look at the irrational nonsense argument from his quote.
How can this guy be defending a racist video that even Trump's admin had to delete and Republicans condemned?
The person who posted it knew it was wrong. Yet, he is here defending it.
cococandy: “A new level of MAGA insanity has been unlocked-- let's detonate a bunch of nukes to create a radioactive Panama Canal in the Middle East 🤡”
These people are dangerously der anged for real
I said it!!!! THESE TRUMP FOLLOWERS ARE A CULT. A DANGEROUSLY STUPID CULT. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING- A FOOL IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN A WICKED PERSON.
Coco and Epie man - bayelsaowei, you guys are so so funny, people are asking "wetin dey make you laugh". LOL.
Alright, so again, let me be clear. One of my main points in all these is that no one is perfect - all of us just dey try with God's help. You lot have proven already the sins of Trump. But, you see, God does not look at an individual the way you,Coco me and everyone else do. Point is God defies logic. He doesn't make sense all the time (the way we expect things to pan out, you get?), because what He sees, we can't see - except He decides to reveal to us His plans and desires.
You funny lot get my points now? Have a great week ahead!
So, wait, we as humans do not understand what God sees. We do not understand how God sees beyond Trump's sins.
BUT YOU BEING YOU.....YOU UNDERSTAND HOW GOD FORGIVES TRUMP?
vedaxcool: I did not know when you became transgered. I wish you mental peace, one cannot be an atheist, joining transgerism, gaysterism, ethnic bigotry, Muslim Hate, ... living must really be punishment for you (ill)logicbooy! Always loitering around people of religion because your life have no meaning, empty and more barren than a nuclear waste land!
Clearly, you have nothing to say. Everyone can see how you have been radicalised. The Ayatollah was not a good person- this is someone who killed his own people.
I will support you in stating that the USA still had no right to bomb/kill him.
cococandy: When he was spewing BS on Fox News and they were all guzzling it like thirsty little hippos, they didn’t consider how der anged he sounded then.
I couldn’t listen to a sentence he said without asking myself who thought this brain rotted mongrel was worth listening to. Yet they lapped it up in big gulps.
Tucker is one of the most prolific if not the most successful right wing propagandist in recent history. The current Republican Party has him to thank for what they are today.
Not to mention he’s majorly responsible for the Obama hate that led them so insane they decided voting for a mad man like Trump was what would “save” the country; even though we were doing phenomenally well at that time . They rewarded him with billions of views and ratings.
They need to sit back and deal with the monster they created.
Thank you. Their flip-flopping hypocrisy is nauseating.
Well, the good news is that they are now divided. Tucker/Owens vs Ben Shapiro
Trump's Timeless Promise: Cuba Will Be Free – And He's Ready to Witness the Victory
In a resurfaced 1999 speech to the Cuban-American National Foundation in Miami, Donald Trump laid out a clear, principled stance against doing business with Fidel Castro's regime – a position rooted in ethics and foresight that looks prophetic today.
"I've had a lot of offers – and sadly it's all been very recently – to go into Cuba on deals, business deals, real estate and other deals, and I've rejected them on the basis that I will go when Cuba is free," Trump declared.
He pulled no punches on the Castro government: "Putting money and investing money in Cuba right now doesn't go to the people of Cuba. It goes into the pockets of Fidel Castro. He's a murderer, he's a killer, he's a bad guy in every respect, and, frankly, the embargo against Cuba must stand if for no other reason than, if it does stand, he will come down."
Then came the bold prediction and personal commitment that still resonates: "One day Cuba will be free. I believe that you will have victory… you will win and I’m going to be down here and watch you win. I’ll either be the greatest developer in the country or the greatest president…"
If the Communist regine goes, so will Russia and Chinese influence drastically diminish in the western hemisphere.
It is very weird for a black man from a colonised country to be supporting colonial mentality.
See how you are talking about America invading and killing the leader of a sovereign country.
You might not like how a country is run but that does not give you the right to go and kill the leaders and take over their oil.
China, Saudi Arabia and Russia have all had serious human rights abuses since the 80s. Why hasnt America invaded them?
Just look at how innocent people are dying from both sides of the Iran war. Why is it called the Iran war, even? The USA and Isreal started it
DOGE Delivers Again: $757 Million Slashed from Wasteful Federal Contracts
In just the last four weeks, federal agencies—guided by the Department of Government Efficiency—have terminated or scaled back 95 bloated contracts worth $2 billion in total ceiling value, delivering $757 million in real taxpayer savings.
Among the highlights of government excess now eliminated:
- A $75,400 State Department deal for routine "media monitoring services." - A $45.6 million Office of Personnel Management contract for "talent acquisition support." - A staggering $98.5 million Department of Education project to track and study high school students throughout their entire careers. - Another $76.4 million Education Department contract focused on how students and families pay for college and their long-term workforce results.
This latest round proves the swamp is still full of unnecessary spending on studies, consulting, and monitoring that deliver little to no value for hardworking Americans. DOGE continues cutting through the fat, putting money back where it belongs—in the pockets of taxpayers instead of endless bureaucratic boondoggles.
This has the net result of democrat supporters living in complete ignorance . How will such people ever be helped ? They are the ones who need equity to arrive at the same outcomes as others who read both sides if the divide to make their own conclusions.
lies and propaganda
1. DOGE can only prove 32. 5 billion Dollars in savings with evidence even though only 61.5 billion was itemized. The 175 billion figure is suspicious and is not backed by any solid evidence 2. When DOGE cuts costs in one place, problems and federal spending increase in another. 3. Even Oga Elon Musk don tire for DOGE
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GracieX3(f): 3:22pm On Mar 26
