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plaindealer:
lol @ gown adult with zero capacity to read and comprehend simple English words.
Show me where I asserted that Lagos is the best in Africa.

When jokers lack same and intelligent things to say, you start making up dumb and intelligent rubbish.


I asked this joker to state categorically that based in their senseless and illogical comparisons, they want Lagos to start arresting and locking millions of people on the streets of Lagos from street traders, be street hawkers and random lagosians called undesirables just like they are doing in their clean Kigali, bust he's asking why Lagos can not adopt what they are doing in Kigali to make Kigali clean.

Well, to make Kigali clean, they are arresting and locking up their own citizens, they are keeping their own citizens off their streets.

So, is this what you want us to adopt?

Yes or no.

How hard is it for a grown man to answer yes or no.

Why are you hypocrites so scared and afraid to say, yes, we should start arresting and locking up all the millions of street traders and hawkers including random lagosians as undesirables.

If you are going to compare the good, why is it hard for you to compare the solution?

You are morning but a lazy hypocrite.

All mouth but no action.

LWKMD!! I have never seen or read any delusional piece from any human being like yours before. What a joke!!

You don't need to directly mention Lagos Govt system is the best. But your blatant and denial disposition towards seeing the need to adopt other Govt practises e.g. Rwanda govt that has proven successful and the most rapid in Africa modern history says it all.

Why do you think adopting some of Rwanda's Best Practises is wrong?


The only person that mentioned the apprehension of nonadherence victims is you. I have read through both of your arguements and @donfineboi never mentioned anything like that.

Or maybe to you apprehension is the only thing Rwanda does?

You asked him for ideas, he provided you with some with no mention of arrests or any means of apprehension... As pasted below:

1.Rwanda has proven to show great competence in building and sustaining institutions. A feat Lagos can adopt the underlying principles of such govemermental practice.

2. Rwanda has boosted Agriculture through hydroponics and Greenhouse farming using little space for huge agricultural development unhindered by weather or climatic conditions. Something Lagos can tap into....

3. Rwanda has shown it can recover from the most catastrophic conditions (Genocide) and become an example of a progressive society.

4. Rwanda has shown a rapid growth in Tourism, people from far and wide in millions annually visit Rwanda to see some Wildlife. Which Lagos can key into by having some rare wildlife. Dubai a desert city is doing it, many Western countries alien to such animals are doing it, I don't see why Lagos can't.

But you keep blabbing Arrest!! Arrest!!

Now see how delusional you are?

You are far from being averagely intelligent. Your deduction is highly misplaced and your overconfidence in ignorance and poor logical calculations have exposed your sheer mediocrity.

plaindealer:
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Both handles spewed the same lazy and unintelligent garbage so it's obviously the same unintelligent poster.

Is it not even sad and pathetic that you lazy people rant so much about poor governance, but still can not formulate any same and rational governing ideas or solution to solve the issues you are ranting about?


It is simple, Kigali is arresting and locking up their own people to make Kigali clean so since you are comparing, so you think Lagos should also arrest and lock up millions of people in Lagos to make Lagos clean like Kigali?

It is a simple question that you motor mouth are too chicken and afraid to answer because you know it will expose your insane, illogical and baseless comparisons.

Your problem is intellectual laziness and silly hypocrisy..

LWKMD. You are obviously a spoilt adult spoon fed in the luxury or penury of your parents.

No logical thinking person can agree with you.

No wonder you are jobless and the only place or space you can find a meaning sense of belonging is on Nairaland.

With your type of disposition, there is no way an employer can cope with your insolence and arrogance.

You make childish arguements with baseless premises. A total waste of time and effort.

To you Lagos Govt is the best in Africa, and have the best practises worthy of emulation. Total rubbish.

Answer this simple question. Are you saying Lagos cannot adopt any of the Govt practises from Rwanda?

Let us see if you have any juice in that your brain

plaindealer:
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lol... contradiction is when you cluelessly compare, but lazy to come up with solutions.

You have so much to say about governance and how terrible they are in Lagos, but you are clueless and defensive when they ask you to express the your own better ideas per how to keep Lagos clean like Kigali.

So, you are generally inept, you lack creative ideas and you can not offer any rational view or solutions to back up your insane and illogical comparisons with.

It is easy to compare and blame other people, but it is not when it's time for you to offer your own ideas and solution.

It is obvious that you are too chicken to recommend that we do what they are doing in Kigali to make Lagos clean, it shows that your comparisons was illogical, baseless and silly.

If you are going to to compare and make illogical claims, make sure you are ready to back it up and recommend we do the same thing they are doing in the place you are comparing Lagos with and if you can not, just keep quiet and don't compare.


Btw, you don't have to keep switching IDs to like and support your rubbish.

What is the connection between your tormentor and me? A simple profile check will show you there are no links or relationship between us.

You are very childish and I believe Jobless. I can give you a partime job if you reside in Lagos. To save you from being a nuisance here on nairaland.

You really need to grow up and stop arguing blindly and childishly.

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donfineboi:
LOL!! I understand your frustrations and bitterness. The situation of the country must be biting hard on you. No wonder you are filled with so much bile and venom.... Oh jeez!! Pele!!

I cannot fix Lagos and I don't intend to, my points mean nothing to you simply because your poor exposure and primitive acumen falls within the range of your inept and do nothing Eba politicians.

You are a typical example of a Suffering but Smiling specimen and a mere victim of a third world poorly run country.

It is because of people like you there are almost zero chances of Nigerians choosing the right political leaders with innovation and creativity to turn things around. It is because of people like you Nigeria will remain hopelessly governed. What a pity... SMH.

Please stop transferring your bitterness to me and save me the few minutes of your pile of shit. Use that energy to better your life one way or the other. I am doing very well thank you and I don't need to smell your shit.

Good luck in life kid and save yourself the needless effort to reply.

Well said. He is only a frustrated patriot, blinded from the truth. Brainwashed and completely deluded. I believe in his quiet time he would reflect and learn from your arguements.

Just ignore him. He is obviously unemployed...

plaindealer:
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When you compared Lagos with Kigali based on cleanliness, obviously you are saying they are doing something right in Kigali which is arresting and locking up their own citizens from street hawkers to street traders.

The question again is, since you are comparing and stating all the good things happening in Kigali and their solution to cleanliness in Kigali, are you suggesting that we adopt the Kigali strategy by arresting and locking up our citizens from street hawkers to street traders and common citizens on the streets of Lagos

It was easy for you to compare Lagos in favor of Kigali, but you can not offer their solution in Kigali as a viable solution in Lagos.

I don't even remember asking you to be the governor of Lagos state or to govern Lagos, you opened your mouth to compare so you obviously must know what we are doing wrong and what we need to do right to be like Kigali.


See, this is the problem with many of you big mouth people, you talk, talk and talk, but can not offer any sane and rational views to back up your rants with. You can nor formulate any sane and intelligent answer or solution to what you are criticizing and ranting against.

It is simple so let me help you because I know you are too chicken to admit the obvious, you saw the trap you set for yourself so you are dancing around the trap instead of just falling inside the trap. You love Kigali and carried Kigali on your head, but you are too mentally lazy and inept to come out and say we should also start arresting and locking up people, prevent people with no business on the streets of Lagos to move into Lagos, basically to do what they are doing in Kigali to keep Lagos clean.

If you don't have any solution and if you can not boldly assert that we should do what they are doing in Kigali to make Lagos clean, then shut up and stop comparing. SIMPLE.

On a very serious note, you are filled with contradictions, invalidated arguments, poor premises and I can go on.

Your arguments are erratic and very childish. Arguements are very simple and resourceful exchange where attainment of more knowledge can be derived. It is not a competition to be won, if it was you had lost from the on set.

Yes @donfineboi was correct about the need for comparisons.

Coercing him to provide solutions when he is not your Govt....

Yes he was correct about the exceptional Management and Govt best practises the Rwandan Govt were able to cultivate and maintain of which the Lagos state Govt can adopt and practice.

He even made a very beautiful conclusion saying both sides can gain from such comparisons.

But you..... You are just a grumpy pointless sentimental driven person. Who beats his chest and boast of mediocrity.

Any reasonable fellow that reads you guys arguements can tell that you are very wrong. Sorry to say.

This is just the reason many of us are still trapped with these obsolete Govt system. Some African Countries are progressing and Nigeria seems to be retrogressing. While the 1% Political leaders tend to be living the life and the majority..... In a Democracy?

You reek of Arrogance. Which is very typical among many of us in this Shithole Eba Republic.

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feddis:
Thanks for bringing to my notice what you are and do for a living. Online agbero.

If my continual talk about my support for PDP and Atiku makes me an E-rat then you're only a pathetic online foolish Agbero.
Am sure if you ever in your dream get to contest for any political office you will be scandalous and fraudulent like your boss Buhari.

You know untrained children when you see them. Now run along and go play with your mates. You have made your point. I know you may not be proud of your job... Life of an e.rat. Sounds like a good title for a book....

Wish you well....

feddis:
Being in the comfort of my home running my business makes me an e-rat? You're such a joke.
Unlike the Buhari e-rat that you are, and you think everyone is. Calm down.
I dislike Buhari and his archaic ideologies.
But i believe in Atiku and his policies.

Oh my. I think you are conversing with the wrong guy.



Go and play with your mates online tout!!

100% of your topics have exposed you. You nothing but an e.rat
At least it's better than Agbero... Be proud of what you do... Who knows you might be an e.rat for me when I decide to run for office. Till then.... Look for your mates....

feddis:
I have 1 for you right now.

Aaaah. I guessed as much. An Atiku e.rat. No wonder you took it so personal.
1 advice. Get a real job!!

feddis:
Speak for yourself and your kindred.

I wonder why you are so concerned about me and my kindred. Have we met? Do I owe you money? What's the relation and familiarity?

Or are you jobless? You need a job? I have some job openings mid December.....

Moorish:
Its frightening what the future holds

Rising birth rates and we have the largest number of people in extreme poverty

I do fear however, the Jerry Rawlings or gadaffi approach, Libya is worse today

Libya is worse because the Western Vultures had to step in to mitigate Ghadafi's growing influence in Africa.

That is the only way out. PDP and APC are nothing but Jokers seeking for their never ending intersts.

Moorish:
By the 65% illiterates You mean the electorates right?

I understand that but I believe the current government is good enough for now, I don't support the Atiku option

A military government can be very repressive and evil also I don't know if that's the solution

I think democracy gives power to the masses..

And it breeds competition which is a good thing

Yes I mean the electorates. I dont support any of the 2 candidates. We cant keep going to the past to look into the future.
There is no hope for Nigeria. Jerry Rawlins approach is the remedy we need.

Normally Democracy gives power to the masses, but not when the masses are majorly backwards in thinking. The enlightened few will suffer for it.

Everyday someone is using someone's body parts for rituals.... It's shameful to be Nigerian sometimes.

feddis:
Nigeria is hopeful with Atiku.
Instead of making vast blind unrealistic promises like Buhari, he's coming out with strategies he intend to use subject to scrutiny and reviews.
Nigeria is hopefully Atikulating.

From frying pan to fire. We are finished!!

Moorish:
I approve of this post

Kudos

Thank you. I love this country but it is very obvious that we will not get it right in the next 20 years.

Except the boys scouts come and do the needful.

Majority of the masses are still sub-humans at the last stage of evolving to Homo-Sapiens.

Can we wait till then?

The honest truth we are not yet ripe fir democracy. Imagine over 65% who are semi-illiterates, deluded and ethically compromised deciding our future for us.... Just think about it. Very hopeless.

grandstar:
What do you mean?

It was massive investment by foreign investors was what transformed China, starting with investments from Hong Kong with barely 0.5% of China's population.

The highest companies in Nigeria are most multinationals.

Singapore was probably as poor as Nigeria in 1965 but now has per capita income higher than Britain, their colonial masters, all thanks to foreign investors

Why use China as an example. Dont you know that China operates a different political system from us.

Why dont you use South Korea. And how they developed their country from within. Around 1960 South Korea's GDP per income was about $100 per person. Ours was over $500, but what happened?

They invested within and empowered their youth and look at them today. They are 20 years ahead of us.

Look at USA. Did foriegn investors develop the country to become what it is? The economy was home grown, even before they were exporting their jobs to China.

Look at Israel, how many foreign investors own stakes in that country. Israel is a perfect example of home grown development.

The lazy and most ineffective way out is to make the economy condusive for foreigners to flood in. They don't bring real development for a country like Nigeria. Our people are 20 years backwards on reaserch and development, in skills and technical know how, in health care and basic civility.

The wise thing to do is to build from within. You have a people of great potential. Tap into that and make them transform the nation.

feddis:
The residential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party, Atiku Abubakar, has said he would be willing to risk plunging Nigeria’s economy into inflation in order to guarantee inflow of foreign investments.

Mr Abubakar, a former vice president, said he would float the naira, so as to allow free market determine the value of the national currency, a controversial position that stands in sharp contrast to the belief of President Muhammadu Buhari.

“I would prefer to float the naira because I believe that will bring about a more stable exchange rate,” Mr Abubakar told The Africa Report in recent interview. “Therefore, foreign investors are more likely to return to Nigeria and invest as much as possible.”

“We have to create more incentives for foreign investment and relax conditionalities, remove regulations as much as possible. But what you forget, it has two side effects,” he said.

When challenged that the policy could worsen Nigeria’s inflation rate, which stood at 11.3 percent in September after averaging 16.5 percent in 2017, Mr Abubakar said the foreign currency that potential investors would pump into Nigeria would be enough to cushion the imminent crisis of inflation on Nigerians.

“There could be devaluation and there could be a lot of inflow of foreign currency into the country. The devaluation that is likely to result can be balanced with the relatively huge [sums of] foreign currency that will be coming into the country. We had that situation prior to the departure of [former president] Goodluck Jonathan.

“At that time, we had a pile of foreign investment in the country, and there was stability of the naira. So people did not have to go to the central bank to look for foreign exchange because there was foreign exchange in the market and in the banks. So it could turn out to be a win-win situation,” he said.

The policy the candidate is proposing could send commodity prices through the roof in an import-dependent economy like Nigeria.

But it conforms with his longstanding position that Nigeria’s economy should be guided by free market principles.

Currently, the country’s manufacturing sector has been widely deemed moribund by industrialists and economists. Mr Abubakar’s proposal, which he said was successful when tried before, did not seem to fathom what would become of Nigeria’s economy in the transition period between foreign investments and and growth.



“There is no amount of foreign foreign investment that would drive down inflation,” Enobong Udoh, an economist, told PREMIUM TIMES Thursday morning.

Mr Udoh said the problem with Nigeria’s inflation has more to do with the monetary policies of the Central Bank of Nigeria, some of which a president might not be able to control to avoid being seen as compromising the independence of the institution.

“People emphasise too much on fiscal policy and not the monetary policy, which is actually the problem,” Mr Udoh said. “If you are having interest rate of over 25 percent, it is not good, and you cannot use foreign investments to drive down its immediate impact.”

Mr Udoh said Nigeria’s real inflation rate is over 25 percent, casting strong doubts over the 12 percent which the statistics office is reporting.

“Inflation is about 25 percent right now,” Mr Udoh said. “Banks are giving out loans at about 25 percent and they try to make two or three percent interest on each loan.”

He suggested a reshuffling of top management officials at CBN as way to drive down lending rates.

“The guys at the CBN are in charge of monetary policy, but they do not know what they are doing,” he said. “they are not doing well at all and they should be removed urgently before we could have a sensible economy.”

Mr Buhari strongly rejected calls to float the naira between 2015 and 2016, although he eventually yielded to calls to devalue when it became clear that the CBN could no longer defend the national currency.

Mr Abubakar’s comments to The Africa Report, which come four days to the formal opening of presidential campaign, have also elicited critical reviews by commentators in the ruling All Progressives Congress.

Mr Abubakar “is clearly proposing a suicidal economic plan for Nigeria,” Ayo Akanji, an APC strategist, told PREMIUM TIMES. “Nigerians can now begin to see that they risk voting in a man who lacks basic understanding of macroeconomics.”



“This is a voodoo and crooked economic policy that he might have used in his private businesses and assumed would work for Nigeria,” Mr Akanji said.

“Nigerians should now compare this dangerous proposal with how the Buhari administration has been implementing a holistic home-grown solution to our economic problems, which has been working for us as evident in gradual and sustainable uptick in the country’s economic activities,” the strategist said.

By Samuel Ogundipe
Source : https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/295841-ill-risk-inflation-to-win-huge-foreign-investments-atiku.html

Instead of investing massiveliy in local SMEs and Start-ups. He wants foreigners to come here and exploit us. These are primitive ways to develop one's economy.
Build your local content and make them foriegn investors.

Rather than making the economy condusive for foreigners, make it condusive for your people. Nigeria remains hopeless... what a pity.

dapoola:
Good talk bruh... we cant keep repeating this same cycle of insanity everytime and expect a different outcome. You are spot on when you say the problem is not a party thing anymore... it's a people thing, it is also not the age of the candidates of the major parties (APC or PDP) that is the issue, but the AGE OF THE IDEAS these candidates are banding around. In this digital age of ideas and innovation, we need leaders whose ideas are current, smart and nimble...

Do you think Nigerians are ready for change? These people have been destined to suffer and smile. Nigeria is hopeless. We have 55% of people voting on sentiments against 20% who vote on facts and decisiveness. And have another 25% who are willing to sell their votes to the highest bidder...

We haven't suffered enough.

God can't help us. If the Nigerian youth decide to remain deluded and mentally backwards, there is very little God can do.

I have given up on Nigeria. Nigerians have made it pretty clear that they rather suffer than tap into the future.

The black race is a damn race Who are made to be enslaved by oppressors. It takes wisdom, will and redemption to re-orientate yourselves removing the shackles of bondage that has been cursed on you by nature.

But wisdom is something most blacks seldom crave for.

Save yourself and preserve your family.

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