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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:41am On Feb 01, 2018 |
airmark: I missed the match and i'm happy i did. me too. The thing is that, I am not even sure that I will be able to watch any night match for the next 5 months. Make this fulani/hausa area boy no cut my hand for this God forsaken zamfara land wey i dey. My only alternative will be online streaming, if I am lucky to get a link. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:35am On Feb 01, 2018 |
Ibime: Ancelotti is free very soon we go begin recycle all the coaches wey we don sack before. If we sack conte, be rest assured that we will now be attracting coaches of the likes of moyes, silva, martinez, etc. Those level of coaches just to keep us below the top six at least, until the stadium project is finished. I am not sure any elite coach will come and spoil his cv with Chelsea that are signing the likes of Giroud, Barkley, etc. If I'm to advise chelsea, I will tell them to stop signing players and use this opportunity to promote a lot of the academy players, then hire wenger to take us through this period or leave conte to do it and pay him well. But, the issue About conte's own is if he will agree to stay. I think he is an ambitious man and will not like to stay. I suspect that he saw the thing earlier, that was why he refused to extend his contract. I think hazard has seen it too; the reason he is refusing to extend his contract. The nigga is leaving in the summer. I think we should all brace up for the eventuality; being like the arsenal of those years. Celebrating the signing of players like Giroud; arsenal bench man. It is a pity. How the mighty has fallen. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:13am On Feb 01, 2018 |
MoR2: 25games 15wins 5draws 5loses 50points 
i think this is a sign
a sign chelsea will finish ..... (this season)  it is a sign that Chelsea will win the champions league. You know nah. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:11am On Feb 01, 2018 |
How exactly did Chelsea lose to Bournemouth. I was seeing around 65% possession for us. How did we still lose 3 - 0? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:06am On Feb 01, 2018 |
CSTR2: Conte should just go and take Morata with him.
Our coach just significantly weakened us in the striking department with just a single text message. abeg stop. The defence just shipped in 3 goals and you are here talking about striker. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:44pm On Jan 31, 2018 |
Ibime: With all the injuries Morata has been copping why should Batsman not get more game-time instead of playing Hazard as false 9?
Clubs keep players whether they want to leave or not. He can do that in summer. I'm sure Kelechi wants to leave Leicester to get game-time before World Cup, as does Elneny and another hundred players. Batsman is not unique in that sense. toh. The way we are bashing this Giroud signing, Are you sure he is not going to make us eat our words. Like play, he will now be the one to help us win the ucl. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 4:27pm On Jan 31, 2018 |
Ibime: Na so Giroud go block Tammy Abraham next summer. They are similar players, only 6 months patience was required if Conte wants a target-man type. i believe Giroud will be signing not more than 2 years contract. Where you expecting to be playing with only one striker, since batshuayi has asked to leave for more game time? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:02pm On Jan 31, 2018 |
Guardiola says he can accept criticism regarding City's spending but insists it is necessary to improve the quality of his entire squad. "Some clubs spend £300m on two players, we spent it on six players," he told a news conference on Tuesday. "Last summer, we had six or seven out of contract and decided to sign six or seven more. "You need to spend to stay at the same high level. Maybe one day we'll spend £200m on a player. It's up to the club how to spend their money; we decided to do it now. We might sign one or two in the summer. "The inflation of the market, every player costs a lot. We spend the money on six or seven players while others do it on one or two. We accept criticism." |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:25am On Jan 31, 2018 |
CSTR2: Madrid is probably the only exception here.
And even then against 99% of teams, they attack and control proceedings like a Boss. If Real madrid play Chelsea, i don't expect them to react to Chelsea.
When Madrid play Barcelona or maybe Bayern Munich, they get Reactive which is a testament of the superioity of good attacking philososphy that is defined, mastered and prosecuted by top level footballers. like i said earlier. You did not understand my post. You can go and check it again. Your last paragragh is covered in my post if you look well. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:19am On Jan 31, 2018 |
Herein lies the real mystery of the weekend, looking at Michy’s goal scoring record alone it is hard to figure out why he hasn’t been generally lauded more. Clubs who use stats and Moneyball to figure out who they should buy must look at Michy and think wow! Only two strikers in the Premier League have a better goals-to-minutes-played ratio than him this season in all competitions, Sergio Aguero, who has scored a goal every 95 minutes, and there is of course Harry Kane. Michy is currently on a goal every 100 minutes this season and these are the only three players at or under that number in the top flight of English football. Even Mo Salah at Liverpool in the midst of his incredible season is not quite at that level, though he has scored a lot more goals and does add a few assists! It is not to dismiss the brilliance of players like Salah but the stats are weird here. Michy has scored more goals than Sadio Mane, Dele Alli, Riyad Mahrez and is level with Marcus Rashford. These players are highly regarded in the game. He has also scored more goals this season than any single player has for Arsenal. He hasn’t scored that many in the Premier League, but then it is quite hard to score when you aren’t actually on the field. Coutinho, Lingard, Martial, Vardy and Sane are all a goal or two ahead of Michy but each has had at least 40 per cent more game time than he has. So a goal or two behind these luminaries is not bad in the circumstances. Judging purely by the statistics it looks mysterious, but those of us who watch the Blues most weeks know it is not quite that simple. Link-up play, holding the ball up and providing assists all have to be brought into consideration as well. Antonio is acutely aware of this and it is always worth considering who your goals are against. Whatever happens with Michy in the short- or long-term, one thing is absolutely certain, he will score goals if he is given opportunities by his team-mates. Everyone at the club was delighted for him after the Newcastle game. This is it. The thing we have been saying about this stats issue. http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2018/01/pat-nevin--a-number-of-things.html |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 7:59am On Jan 31, 2018 |
Neymar1095: Now you are claiming Hazard can thrive in any system. Tommorow you will say Chelsea system is holding him back. is hazard not thriving at Chelsea? But, he will better if played with elite players in his level with more freedom upfront. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 7:56am On Jan 31, 2018 |
CSTR2: The bolded is another name for reactive football. Clubs are not reactive because they like it, they are reactive because they are limited.
If Chelsea get top top attacking players, we will not need to be unpredictable. We will be predictable and still blow teams away, but with style.
All Elite teams have a defined style. For Chelsea to become Elite, we need to have our own style not just reacting to any opposition.
Top oppositions will react to us if we have a defined attacking template but with superior players to make it work. you didn't understand my post. Madrid is an elite team, but they don't have a specific pattern. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 7:14am On Jan 31, 2018 |
Neymar1095: Tommorow you will change your tune to Hazard plays in a defensive setup at Chelsea which is holding him back. how does this relate to my post? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 7:03am On Jan 31, 2018 |
nateevs: Complete mystery to me. Unless thee is something the football world knows about him that is not apparent to us. i keep wondering why. Na the summer one pain pass. I mean, this guy just wants to upgrade and was ready to go to any club that is an upgrade to Leicester. Damn!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 6:55am On Jan 31, 2018 |
CSTR2: A lot of chelsea fans believe the chelsea way should always be defensive or at best pragmatic.
We hate football purists. It is unfortunate. i like my football to be balanced, dynamic and unpredictable. To be able to play anyway. Don't be predictable and limited to some certain style. I so much love dynamism. I am like that. That is how I want chelsea to be. Any how you want it, we give it to you. This is one of the reasons why hazard is one of my favourite players. He can thrive in any system. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:34pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
Nihilist: Aubameyang is a former APOTY.
POTY>Dragging
Hence i would like Aubameyang over Giroud have you forgotten that poty is a pooling boot award. It is dragging that matters. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 6:37pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
raumdeuter: So he wasnt contending for the League, FA cup in 2016? was he contesting for it at raumdeuter fc? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 12:16am On Jan 29, 2018 |
raumdeuter: How many trophies was he in contention for in 2016? one, and he won it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 12:05am On Jan 29, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Which Madrid will offer Mourinho a contrsct extension? the one mou called name during his comment. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 12:04am On Jan 29, 2018 |
randomperson: Whose fault is that? If Mourinho wa consistent like guardiola, he would have won sextuple consistent how? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 11:49pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Mou played Super cup 3 times lost all 3 times. So how would he qualify? Pep played 3 UEFA super cup 3 times won all 3 times i see that you want to shift the goal post now. Let me ask you again. Did moi ever get the chance of completing for six trophies in a year? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 11:46pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
Eruditor: I paraphrased because my memory is only semi-photographic. But the gist was essentially what I said there. Instead of looking for a link (which you can do yourself), look for the YouTube video of Wenger answering the questions posed at him. That interview was shortly before Wenger celebrated 1000 games in Arsenal and shortly before he lost 6-0 to Mou.
Do your due diligence and see if you come up with Wenger insulting Mou. i don't have the strength to go start looking for the interview, but I can't forget that arsene said mou is afraid to fail. Mou replied by saying, 'yes, I am afraid to fail because I hate failure. What of him that is a specialist in failure. 8 years without a trophy. If i do that at chelsea, i carry my bag and run away and never come back again. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 11:40pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
popizaino: When Carlo Ancelotti was sacked by Bayern Munich. The decision had mixed responses (my personal take is Ancelotti should have been given a stern ultimatum to turn things around), however I think it puts into perspective the “controversial” tenure of Pep Guardiola at Bayern Munich (controversial solely because he failed to win the CL with them and managed to steamroll Bundesliga, making it look easy).
Let me start off with this post on a Barcelona fanpage from Facebook:
"Pep Guardiola got a treble winning team and didn't win a CL. Ancelotti is brought to do just that."
People tend to forget that when Pep was announced as Bayern's next coach (January 2013), Bayern hadn't won the Bundesliga in the last 2 seasons and hadn't won the Champions League in 12 years. The Champions League before that was 25 years ago, in 1976.
They then went on to win a treble, and people reduced Jupp Heynckes' time at Bayern as godly, when it was only the final months of the final season that Bayern won important trophies. The season before, they finished as runners ups in all three major tournaments. But I wouldn't reduce a coach's tenure to mere trophies. Trophies or no trophies in one season are a result of very small differences in variables. Too many 'what ifs'. Statistically dumb to infer important long term things from them. Bayern played wonderfully in 12-13, in relation to the Bayern style.
Pep Guardiola then took Bayern to new heights in terms of football, offered Bavaria a type of football it hadn't seen before. Players left training sessions in headaches complaining in delight about all the new things they keep learning. German coaches went one over the other to meet and learn from Pep. A footballing revolution, that is also seen in the German NT. Germany played differently before Pep than what they do after him. Anyone who has watched Die Mannschaft for a significant amount of time, knows the structural differences. But Pep didn't win the Champions League. Pep didn't win the one trophy Bayern had won twice in 41 years.
So he got slated.
Ancelotti however was supposed to fix all that, because he doesn't focus on 'boring' football, but rather on winning. The Bayern dressing room fell apart, with players complaining to the board about the lack of knowledge and innovations of Ancelotti regarding the football and training sessions. Players complained to the board saying Ancelotti doesn't do much, and definitely nothing new or different. "It feels more like a Sunday warmup session, run 11 laps, kick the ball' That however, is Ancelotti. Bayern board were warned by Madrid and PSG's people that Ancelotti is known for not doing anything much.
And it's a known fact for those who do not choose to be blinded by the glamour of the big Ancelotti, the one who lost two Liga Clasico's to TATA MARTINO, won ONE league with THAT Milan team. A coach who has won 4 league titles (one in France with PSG) during a 22 year managerial career with teams as AC Milan, PSG, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. 4 in 22. Carlo Ancelotti who LOST a league with money flooded PSG against Montpellier, a team whose star player was Olivier Giroud. Leagues have always been a more important measure of continued success than knock out tournaments, statistically. In leagues, you have to face every team twice, while in knock outs you're out with a loss in one round against a strong team while some other team probably goes through to the end without facing any major team. It's exciting, but statistically not the best measure.
But let's not talk about trophies. Let's talk about football. There has been no footballing revolution or culture that Carlo Ancelotti has stemmed, created or left. He repeats some things from Sacchi and that's it.
The current, running footballing scenarios pose too much attention on people who win than people who change the landscape, bring new things and make the game better.
But history, history always remembers the ones who changed things. Herrera, Michels, Cruijff, Sacchi, Pep are admired for their trophies too, but more so for what they gave to football. How they changed the game into a more exciting one.
Ancelotti has given nothing such.
-KDP
Now let’s come to Guardiola’s CL failures at Bayern. In that humiliating 4–0 loss to Real Madrid, it has been explicitly revealed by Philipp Lahm that the players themselves ditched Pep’s tactics. Its a total failure on his part to rein in his players then and worthy of criticizing (not the tactical angle however). In the 2014–15 semis against Barcelona, he went in missing some key players and gave a real fight to Barcelona (yes, he did. Don’t let that 3–0 scoreline in Camp Nou fool you. Before Messi went nuts, I thought that match was headed to a draw). In the 2015–16 CL, Bayern crushed Atletico tactically in the second leg (Pep’s first leg tactics were worthy of critique) and were sorely unlucky to miss out (I genuinely had thought that season Bayern would win the treble, Pep had built a machine). Only once could he be really blamed for screwing up the CL campaign.
Beyond not winning the CL, I think Pep left a legacy in Germany. Julian Nagelsmann cites Guardiola as an inspiration along with Thomas Tuchel and Tuchel himself has hailed Guardiola (think Tuchel might have taken tactical lessons from Guardiola as well, though it hasn’t been stated explicitly). Jupp Heynckes also praised Guardiola (yes he did- Bayern Munich news: Heynckes hails Pep Guardiola after record title - Goal.com). German NT adapted Pep’s tactics and won the WC (Will England learn from Guardiola like Spain and Germany did? | Goal.com, The teams that Pep built: how Guardiola helped Spain & Germany win the World Cup - Goal.com) and Joachim Loew has praised Guardiola’s time in Germany (Loew says Guardiola left his mark on Bayern and Bundesliga). Guardiola didn’t win the Champions League for Bayern Munich, but it looks like he did have a positive effect on German football in general.
It is foolish to deny a legacy acknowledged by a coach’s peers based on the one tournament they didn’t win. SAF won the CL twice in 20+ years, Ancelotti has also bottled some CL campaigns (Istanbul 2005 and Deportivo 2004). Even Jose Mourinho doesn’t win CL every year. But they are remembered for their victories. Think Guardiola is the only manager who gets all the stick for his failures but nothing to very little praise for his successes.
PS- if your comment is the usual Guardiola destroyed Bayern etc, I won’t bother responding. so it is mou that does not get all the sticks for his failures? I think it is mou that gets it more. Once he fails, they will rush him immediately and start criticising his style. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 10:35pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Pep 1 sextuple, Mourinho 0 sextuple look at how you keep disgracing yourself. How can mou win sextuple when he has never competed for six trophies before? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 10:02pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Thats why every club he has coached always went back to him and respect him because he is the greatest scum but Madrid and Chelsea dont even want to see Mourinho again. He is getting booed at both clubs now i bet you did not read last season when mou said that Madrid wanted to offer him a contract extension but he refused. Did you not also read in 2015 when mou's name was sang in 3 different clubs in a week. Chelsea, man u and Madrid? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 9:45pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
Eruditor: Journalist to Wenger: Mou says your team, Liverpool and City are the big horses. CFC is a small horse.
Wenger: I don't agree
Journalist: Well, he says they were never in contention for the league and are only fighting for the UCL places. That next season they will compete.
Wenger: Well, we (AFC) are in it to win it. If you rule yourself out, you cannot say you lost the league.
They ask Jose something else to rile him. And instead of taking an honorable path....goes below the belt.
Same Mou the eye-gouger. Who poked the eye of a very sick Tito.
And people are defending him. Shame. can you show us a link to the interview from 2 reputable websites? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:09pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
Ibime: Alonso is just class in everything he does. His movements, his touch, his interplay, delivery and set pieces. If only he had pace, he would be complete. not only pace, he needs the strength to be able to beat a player comfortably and stay on his feet. Batshuayi for dey great if to say em get pressing, movement and positioning. |