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raumdeuter:
The injury of last season no do una? When i told folks that hidden shakushaku topped assist chart because kdb was injured

has KDB produced more 15 assists in all the season he has played in the EPL?

Swissh:
Also tell us why Hazard has started forming injury when the season has not even started

you can celebrate now. you have been noticed

nateevs:
Is this a real argument ?

you tell me

donjazet:
You contradict yourself and you call another person confused?

Answer this question honestly, before Sarri, was Chelsea known to be a high pressing team or a good passing team?
Did Sarri's method not make us more comfortable on the ball?
We didn't have goal scoring midfielders and that was one of our problems, do you know if that has been rectified yet?

We all hope that Lampard succeeds but there are not enough parameters yet to know exactly what his system is.

you only copy what you cannot produce yourself. Lampard cannot be copying sarri when he was already doing his thing at Derby.

You can't say you don't know how Lampard likes to train and setup his team if you watched his Derby team

donjazet:
I'm pointing out to you that Lampard did not carry out a revolution at derby like you would like to postulate, goals scored and conceded were very much alike before and during his tenure, like wise the position.

It took Guardiola one full year for his team to fully implement his philosophy. Don't forget he went trophyless.


It took Conte about 5-6 months with the team before he started using the 3 at the back formation . Don't make it appear like that was his immediate formation. He experimented different systems before that.

And I point out again that various factors aided Conte, the formation took teams unaware, the lack of European football and an experienced team.

are you sure you followed our club that season?

BTW, Pep's problem in his first season was more about Personnel. The same thing that happened to conte in his second season. Personnel.

Biggieboy:
Which system did he inherit when he was at Derby?

U guys should calm down with this ur propaganda abeg.
When Chelsea hired Conte and when the results where not going his way witu 4 at the back, how long did it take Chelsea to understand his 3 at the back tactics/philosophy. I remember Chelsea even one the first game Chelsea played with 3 at the back.

These guys have been training and learning lampard's tactics/philosophy for close to two months now, so attributing Lampard's effort to Sarri is totally wrong.

If u followed Chelsea preseason games u will know Chelsea worked with 4-4-2, 4-4-2 diamond, 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1.


If u said Sarri's philosophy made it easier for the team to adapt to Lampard's philosophy then I might be able to agree with u to an extent, but saying Lampard INHERITED Sarri's tactic is 100% wrong .

exactly What I have been trying to let them know.

Kimbeast:
Nobody said anything about foundation the term I used I was framework in the sense of the term set up, player roles etc. Kante is still being played in an attacking role, jorginho is still the Anchor of the midfield,Pedro still uses the flank runs, kovacic sub for Barkley . the main reason as to why kante looked better against Liverpool than with sarri in same position is because
sarri was too hell bent on 1 touch passing and wouldnt allow players to run with the ball, kante and kovacic’s best attributes are running with the ball, which was curtailed by sarri because he wanted 1-2 touch passing progression which was his biggest flaw last season and not for his players to hold onto the ball and run with it.

i think you are getting confused.

Sarri's undoing has nothing to do with 1 touch passing, it had Everything to do with not being direct in his play.

Lampard did not copy anything from sarri. He only benefitted from Sarri's work in the sense that he does not need to do much work on bringing the players up to speed on the quick passing, pressing and playing out from the back

Kimbeast:
I disagree . Sarri is a more system oriented Coach and Players did not like it, but if it was followed properly the results Would have been deadly (look at Napoli's matches and record in his last year there). The fact is our players where stubborn and needed more freedom which Lampard is doing right now. He allows the players more freedom to express themselves that's why kovacic,Pedro and to some extent Kante are no longer restricted.

is it a coincidence that sarri with teams that followed his football to the last was trophyless, but he wins his first trophy with a team that refused to follow his instructions to the later?

airmark:
Gomez and Matip were ball-watching there, no sane person would expect VVD to keep running with Giroud when Matip and Gomez were there to take over the marking of Giroud.

Raumdeuter no know ball. Walahi

diggz:
Chris and Emerson? Training? Did you watch emerson at all? Same emerson sarri almost destroyed his remaining career on the bench. Which yeye Chris and training?

I am sure it was the uselessness in sarri that have destroyed the remaining good in Azpi.

Let me not even start with the thing you've included as a kepakeeper.


The only player he can get credit for na akpuruka aka jorginhoeee.

mehn! Your hatred for sarri no be here

Biggieboy:
Just imagine wot was going through Van Dijk's mind when Kante was marking him in the picture below.

as in eh. The thing off me

diggz:
With which set of players?

azpi, chris, kepa and emerson were all in his team. they all do training together

raumdeuter:
Why should Gomez be the one to run after the man VVD was marking?

abeg, go and face airmark. i don't have strength to educate you

Lana1:
raumdeuter airmark see shakushaku at its finest.

even the hazard that he loves to malign will not do this one

Lana1:
He played Europa and had a good outing in the league.

hazard didn't play much in the europa though

airmark:
Below is the full coverage, if you also expected VVD to keep on running with Giroud like foolish raumdeuter, opening his rear for Pulisic to go solo into the box, then you need to quit analysing defensive play.

VVD would be the most stupid top defender to do that when Matip and Gomez were there to follow Giroud.

[img]https:///media/8-15-2019/tz0sfM.gif[/img]

the people to blame there are matip and gomez, gomez especially. had he run faster to mark giroud, he would have easily intercepted the pass

airmark:
Who was the closest to Giroud below. Even Lana1 corrected your stupidity earlier.

that man no know ball, abi na hatred dey do am. so he wanted vvd to follow giroud to that position?

raumdeuter:
Some of us watch games critically and not by peeping through our landlords window

This was the move leading to the goal, circled were Giroud and VVD

How Giroud made that run and left VVD pointing like a traffic guard is what we will never know

what should vvd have done, pulled giroud down at that point? or continue to run around with him to any part of the pitch he goes to?


i am not yet on the vvd hype keke, but your hatred for is making you say ridiculous things, just like the case of hazard

iamrosheed:
If you really think a man can coach a team and the result starts (pressing, fluid passing) showing after two games then good luck to you

oga, he had preseason with the players. how long did it take sarri his own.


my own is that sarri made not to be difficult for the players to execute since they have already been doing it. although it started a little during conte's reign.

donjazet:
I really don't get you, you seem to let your dislike for Sarri cloud your judgement.

Yes, Sarri had flaws, primarily being tactically inflexible, however there were good positives from his tenure, his basic ideology was attacking footballpossession football and to an extent he drilled the basics and fundamentals of his system into the team.

Saying that what we saw yesterday was all down to Lampard's methods is untrue and downright ridiculous.

Lampard has tweaked minor aspects of sarrisimo but the foundation is undeniable.
lack of acknowledgement of Sarri's positive influence on the team is unjust and shortsighted.

corrected. sarri was more about having the ball, but there was no quick transition to attack. he just wanted his team to move grdually from defence to attack with short passes even when there is an opportunity to go direct. the team did not fully play the way he wanted, because the winners in the team refused to play the way he wanted because they know that it will only end up being like van gaal team

lordfalcao:
jorginho' is as important to lampard in mildfield as he is to sarri..


This is something every one cannot see. He is not called akpruka for nothing

when did lampard tell you the bold. na lie

popizaino:
Whatever we are playing now as nothing to do with Sarri Abeg. Frank lampard alone deserve the credit.

sarri solidified the foundation of playing out from the back after conte introduced it, but was not stubborn about its usage

airmark:
All these people will make rules, they will just decide when to and not to adhere.

and there was var O

airmark:
How many goals and assists did your African best player ever get today? Maybe he don dey do shakushaku like Hazard too.

did you watch that point were he just destroyed a counter just to do shakushaku for fun?

Kimbeast:
Kanté has finally evolved from Gattuso to Seedorf. . God Bless sarri for me

let me just give sarri that credit.

Lana1:
No. But for some reason, dem dey count First Division but not cup winners cup. I didn't make the rules.

who told you. we won the super cup

mark my word. the striking position will be our undoing this season, not the defense. zouma is regaining his confidence gradually. i am surprised that no one is talking about how he rendered salah useless today.

Ibime:
We don't have striker better than him this season. Maybe Batsman if given a chance

oga ibime, please don't try to defend that guy. if what i saw on sunday and tonight is what he is about, then i can boldly tell you that abraham will never make it at chelsea.
he is always in front of the defenders and can't make a run behind the defense to receive a through pass. he lacks positional sense. he is just an inferior version of batshuayi

Myllz:
When I saw Abraham, I remembered Demba Ba last super cup and he didn't disappoint

make una come see this guy o

Lampard has the potential to be a great manager.

Nothing wey Kante go do wey go ever make me hate am.

Eruditor:
Like we got to "positives from the game"? "United were lucky"?
"Liverpool were lucky". "City only scored 6 goals because we made 6 mistakes" "If Hazard was playing we would bla bla"

It will come to that. Denial is stage one. Don't forget.

you can quote were i made such statements.

thorrvik55:
Sir, I have to respectfully tell u dat all what u wrote about Alonso and Emerson is absolute trash..

Alonso that even attackers that are not fast used to take advantage of. Once he overlaps and the opposition counters, no way for him to recover.

The only tin Alonso offers the team is his height when defending set pieces, his free kicks and knack for getting in the opposition box to score once in a blur moon.

Alonso cannot cross, pass, defend, mark or even tackle...

Alonso lacks all the basic things that are required of a full back.

emerson can play freekick too and also have goals in him. there is no way a reasonable manager will watch alonso and emerson and start having any imagination of start alonso ahead of emerson