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MrColdsweat:
You still refer to the same blunt, rusty tool: Logical reasoning.

That is why you lots will almost never understand the Christians when they talk about God because God is not meant to be proven.

God is meant to be experienced.

And you only experience God through faith.

Exactly, the only type.of Christians I respect are the ones that can say they don't know, but will blindly believe, because when you start claiming your "faith" is prove your God exist, then you should know other religions have their faith.


Simple, no prove God exist, finish. It's either you blindly believe or not, but if you claim you have prove be ready to bring a talking snake and a talking donkey

Jashub:
No you haven't. You just swerved just like the other blokes who claim to be atheist

What I see is a sheep refusing to be free, you have been indoctrinated to believe you're nothing without your religion, that's why you feel the need under a canopy, Christian canopy, Hindu canopy, and so on. That's why I told you I'm not an Atheist.

Be free of canopy my friend.

Jashub:
A few questions for the atheist who say there is no God:

1. If God does not exist, then why do all people have a fixed moral obligation to love and not murder?

2. For those who say they evolved from chemical processes, kindly tell us how those molecules in motion have any authority to tell you how to behave?

3.When you do something wrong, whose standards are you displeasing, is it the carbon atom or the benzene molecules, which one ?

Lol at 2 and 3

1. All people don't have fixed moral, we evolve, just recently mid east stopped flogging as punishment, they evolved, killing of twins stopped in Africa, evolved.

2.

3. Standard these standard that, over to the chemistry students.

Jashub:
Atheism has no standard. So whose standard are you using in making the accusations that God kills babies? Or shall we say you steal your standards from a God you do not believe in...?

I have already answered this.

GRIMMJOE: Before Christianity moral exist, otherwise our forefathers
would have killed each other before Christian got to Africa.

Jashub:
So let me get you straight : your proof, for the nonexistentence of God comes from what you can experience right? Okay, what about those things you cannot experience : things like, your sense of morals or the knowledge that is wrong to kill babies ; where do they come from?

I don't know neither do you nor you God that kills babies like nothing.

Before Christianity moral exist, otherwise our forefathers would have killed each other before Christian got to Africa.

Jashub:
You claim that God does not exist, so the onus is on you to prove this. Or have you forgotten your post earlier?

You believe in the extraordinary, I believe in the ordinary.

Everything that happen to us human is ordinary, the fact that it's ordinary is prove already.

- When you die you die
- Sleeping paralysis is sleeping paralysis
- Starving your self in the name of fasting means nothing compared to those dying of hunger.

if you don't understand I'll explain further.

Jashub:
So prove that God doesn't exist. And while your at it, kindly tell us from where the laws of nature came from

The burden of prove is not on me, I never claimed a snake can talk, I never claimed a man rises from the dead, nor I was created from sand.


Like I've always said, with extraordinary claims, extraordinary prove is needed.

Judybash93:
"(No human on earth has an EXPERIMENTAL proof that their mother gave birth to them. Don't even bring in DNA testing here because it's never experimental. A doctor going into the laboratory with your blood sample and coming out to tell whatsoever about your parental roots is exactly the same thing like a priest coming down from the alter to tell you God exist."

LMAO!!! Are you kidding right now? You could go through a crash course on how DNA works brov. Moreover, a doctor has nothing to do with testing your that blood sample to prove maternity or paternity when you have a geneticist they'll provide physical proof which is evidence but you'll believe a man who claims that he speaks to god but cannot even prove it to you.

That's false equivalence fallacy, we can prove people give birth, but we can't prove a god created the world.

Jashub:
...so why not kill yourself and end your current state of existence.

because God doesn't exist.

Jashub:
The choice is yours. If you wish to go hell, it is the choice a chose you to make. Like I said earlier, you have freewill to choose where you want to go. And nobody will stop you. But don't blame God for the choices you made when you go to hell.

But I didn't ask him to create me nah, is it by force.

Jashub:
If God did not give you freewill, then, this universe would be authoritative and that would make us robots who cannot think. So brother, God did you a huge favor.

By doing me this favor, I'm now in a position of going to hell, how is that a favor.

Judybash93:
You know you could have made your submission without insults right?

What do you expect, most religion contains a lot of insult in them, Christian calling unbelievers fools, Muslim calling them infidel, it's all just a gimmick to make their religion feel superior.

Jashub:
God gave you freewill so you can make your own decisions regarding if you would love Him or hate Him. If there was no freewill, this universe would not be morally correct

Did I tell God I'm interested in loving him or hating him, lol.

Jashub:
Your question is wrong logically because your are trying to fit a description into a wrong category. For example : what is the taste of blue? This question is logically wrong because they are two separate none, -connected ideas. But to humor you, I will answer like this :

Those things do not exist with God ; they are choices man makes based on the freewill given to him by God. An
individual, who does thing consciously is independent from God's acts

And who asked God to give me freewill?

Jashub:
And whose fault is that? God's...or man's?

let me re ask you the question, who created wickedness, who created disobedience, who created rape, who created poverty, can anything exist without a God creating it?

Jashub:
I guess it's my turn to ask questions : so why are you an atheist with no moral standard?

I not an atheists, I have moral standard, not just the moral standard of killing the first born child of people you have a misunderstanding with.

Jashub:
So mention one other deity you know that rose from the dead

Rising from the dead means nothing when the world is in poverty, rising from the dead is nothing when people are killed, raped, and murdered, who rising from the dead help.

1Sharon:
You think Jesus is the only deity that rose from the dead?


Bless your heart.

It's a cognitive bias that makes one believes their religion is special.

Jashub:
They are all theistic world views and what separates Christianity from them is Jesus rising from the dead. And if Jesus rose from the dead, that makes Christianity true.

I guess I'll take your word for it.

Jashub:
They all speak about the same thing but only one of them has the right answer.

And out of 5,000 Gods you believe yours is the right one, smh.

Jashub:
If indeed you seek the truth and you want answers, then go on a quest to know if God is real and existing. Do not stay here deceiving yourself

Kindly tell us quest you carried out to confirm your God exist.

Jashub:
You believe the words other men; you believed your school teacher, and even our father who told you you were his son. All these you do without questioning because you took them by faith. So what is so hard in believing when a person tells you there is a God...?

Which God is that, a Christian man tells me a Christian God exist, a Muslim man tells me a Muslim God exist, so which man should I believe?

All these just to have a woman become your responsibility. . . spits.

mank1234:
Nothing to add here.

The OP needs to embrace perspective in visual art first if satellite visuals or images taken from plane in high altitude can't convince him

Don't mind them, they'll watch a random video on YouTube and begin thinking they know science.

To the OP and those in support of this flat earth theory, should please leave it behind in 2020, it will be sad and disappointing to see someone create such thread in 2021.

LaEvilIMiss:
Water finds its level right - if the earth is spinning through space at the speeds claimed, why have the clouds not washed out or the water emptied - gravity right (has there been any measure of gravity in physics yet? still you believe it right?

Then tell me, if gravity doesn't exist what is your flat earth hanging on.

Activist001:
Op, you're a drunkard. A very big one.

I'm entertained by his stupidity.

Same planet, Jupiter and Saturn spotted in Las Vegas and California, America.

Who ever open this thread should explain this.


Going by the flat earth theory other planet don't exist, but here's an image of Jupiter and Saturn captured from earth, here in Nigeria Ooo, with a phone camera, not a NASA Photoshop, abi NASA have start to hang planet on the sky

Note: This picture was taken yesterday.

Having gone through all the pages of this thread, I observed that this flat earth is just a postulation with no proof yet. Since I'm without the tools and I'm not ready to research on its validity, I therefore stick with globe theory. This is because with it, future predictions on eclipse has been correct, space shuttle atmospheric escape point is calculated correctly (trajectory), warm/cold ocean current effect on adjourning landmass climate predicted. Yes indeed, the facts against flat earth is massive: A flight along a straight line on a flat earth will not take you back to your starting. The bigger a sphere is the more flat it will appear at the point of reference.
mank1234