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This is what happens when you have dunderheads in charge of the affairs of an organization.

I can bet that in 2years time there'll be no change.We are complete jokes in Nigeria.

hotseat:
People, especially those of the South extraction, have or gradually accepting second fiddle as a status!



That the PDP presented a Northerner may be justified because GEJ, a Southerner, was the president before being ousted by the APC which currently has a Northerner.




With a single brush, the leadership of the APC has rubbished all its aspirants as a bunch of inconsequential figures who are incapable of winning a national election!



So we will now have both political parties having a Northerner as flag bearers of the two major parties.




So, where is the so-called "One Nigeria" chanters where a region is only good enough for the position of a "mere commissioner"?




Even those waiting for annoiting oil may have been scammed as it were!

It's disheartening really.Moreso by the fact that we southerners are beginning to accept this narrative.

Going by this,then the north will main power in perpetuity.

I still have my reservations about the numbers they claim to have up north,but the south with its intellect should know better.

Southern Nigeria should not accept this silly permutations and insist on that the APC candidate comes from the South.It's up to the APC politicians up North to sell the candidate to their people and ensure the party wins.

All I see is just greed in disguise.

PDP goofed,it shouldn't happen in APC.

I wonder why the ruling party would be scared to pick a southern candidate.They have the benefit and power of incumbency.

In my opinion,the North just want power.Afterall Jonathan, Obasanjo, and Abiola were voted massively by the North in the past.Why can't it happen again?

CocRochas is stressing himself out and wasting his money.He won't even get 1 vote.

Eastlink:
Your fellow Delta Ijaws go shame to hear how you are misinterpreting their language . I didn't know when bara became hand in Ijaw? Tell me something I don't know. Fu should mean Fufu or full. Like hand full

So when are you guys launching the proposed central Ijaw language? Maybe you can add up names like Fubara and Kalabari into the new Ijaw language.

You'll are acting like dunces on this thread.Why are you so pained?

"Bara" means hand in all Ijo clans.

Are you a toddler or something.

Newsflash: APC is presenting Tonye Cole an Ijo and PDP is presenting Sim Fubara another Ijo.Deal with it,or jump into the Atlantic.

Oporopo!

Anakazo22:
It's just occurred to me that no celebrity have spoken out about the gruesome killing of Deborah Yakubu who was killed by those menace all in the name of a stupid religion called Islam. I could recalled vividly well how all of them came out in one voice against pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo of COZA when he was accused of rape and how the likes of Daddy freeze is always quick in attacking men of God about tithing and offerings and calling them scam and all sorts of names.
Now here we are with such a situation and none have spoken out against such barbaric act but if it was something that has to do with a pastor or the church I know by now all of them would have been out raining abuses and insults on the church and pastors.

Abeg rest.What is their speaking out going to do?

You should be out there protesting with other christians down South instead of waiting for them to speak for you.

fergie001:
The same Ozekhome weeks back

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thewhistler.ng/2023-presidency-senior-lawyers-express-divergent-views-over-emefieles-eligiblility/amp/

Interesting!

I guess he couldn't resist the lure of millions in legal charges,or would he say he wants to test the law in this case?

Emefiele's desperation and lack of ethical compass in this case is nauseating.

fkj950ax:
Then you shouldn’t have compared Nigeria with any other country in the world. You can’t generalize is one comment, and cherry pick in another comment. It’s not following what the US does, it’s if it exist as you stated in your initial comment.

What comment of mine are you referring to?

fkj950ax:
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There are a lot of assumptions we repeat so much as a nation, we start believing them. The bold is one. Over the last 30 years, the Chair of the US Federal Reserve have all been card carrying members of political parties.

That's the US.In Nigeria we have our own laws,we don't have to follow everything the US does because the mentality of citizens in the two countries is different.

Godwin Emefiele should resign and contest,I wonder why it's so difficult.Not everything that is legally right is also morally right.

Moreso,he has angered a lot of Nigerians (poor and elite) by his actions,he would not be president.

Fantastic development.

The best amongst the rest.

This is the man!

If only PDP would steal him quickly.

Op I wonder why you are surprised.Those people can't stomach the fact that other ethnicities can be good or successful at anything.It has to be them, otherwise they'll tear it down.

A combination of envy and inferiority complex is the definition of Igbo.

Also,I don't think it's about Yoruba.If he had said same of the Benin or Efik,trust me, they'll attack him with the same energy.

ChoCho54:
Drop their arrogance for a simpleton like you? I don't blame you sef.

You can imagine this twa.t!

EzeJustme:
Peter i chose but the issue is if clinch PDP ticket will other tribalistic tribes give him their support

They will if you Igbo are wise enough to drop your arrogance and sell him well.It's a turn-off that arrogance.

You'll be shocked the sort of respect other tribes has for him.Na una go still destroy am las las

For the first time I'd agree with Tolu.Peter Obi in my mind is the best candidate to have declared his interest to run for president.However,the arrogance,lack of tact and diplomacy of his Igbo brothers will scuttle whatever chance he has.

The depressing part is that these people never learn.For a people who claim to be so intelligent.If supporters of other aspirants are being silly and vile,must you do same?

slimfit1:
Whoever is close to this man, tell him to keep quiet. Even Buhari kept quiet has his people keep on killing. Dialogue with them, they know you, you don't know them.

Confused hypocrite.Why should he dialogue with Fulani herdsmen or DSS?

My exact fears,and that's why I think this Ukraine/Russia war won't end anytime soon.You don't end a war by pumping weapons into it.

Very soon, militias and all sort of groups will spring up in Ukraine elongating a senseless war.

The US and NATO are a big problem to this world.

Igboid
Eastlink
Ekealterego
Slayer forever
Eastisbae

Dem dey call una.

gidgiddy:
The woman is highly ignorant. Nobody can hold a Governor accountable while in office. The constitution of Nigeria does not permit it

We will hold them accountable in Biafra because the constitution will not be that of Nigeria

You are a clown �!

seunmsg:
If there is no consensus from the north and Clark can name a northerner as his option B, why can’t he do the same to southern aspirants? What’s difficult in saying if there is no consensus from the south, it will just go ahead and support Peter Obi or Anyim?

This is politics sir,it doesn't work that way.

Tinubu despite his popularity (good or bad) is still going about selling himself and making consultations.He understands the game.Clark will not just pick someone as an elder statesman until that person makes the move.Ayim did same to Jonathan and he got the endorsement.

seunmsg:
Is Saraki the northern consensus candidate?

Definitely not.But his interest is in the South.Saraki has made a move to woo him over.That's politics.Still he has tactically told him he is option B.That's the wisdom from an old man.

omenkaLives:
Didn't he realize he cant just wake up and consult anyone before making the initial declaration? Besides, is the time for "consultations" over? If Obi were to consult with him tomorrow, is he then to make another u turn?

Read again his statement and digest it.He hasn't decided fully and is still waiting for them to do the right thing.Saraki is Option B.

Igbos should play their game well in PDP and get the ticket.This is the time to be smart and strategic.

ViperAda:
He is a double tongued geriatric..
But I wasn't that surprised he dumbed ibos for Saraki. He knows ibos stand no chance in hell to pick up the ticket in PDP, it was same sentiments Bode George expressed in his recent interview.
I only wondered how we "SS/SE "was quickly thrown in the mud before the game began. The earlier ibos realize how insignificant they are, the better for them.


-Viper

Ask your annoying Igbo brothers who go about insulting and looking down on others in the SS.There are so many of us who did like the Igbos and were more comfortable around them despite their god mentality.

Recently,the brainwashing from IPoB has turned them into something else,hence the rapid growing hatred for the Igbos amongst the SS tribes.

omenkaLives:
Oga o, we all know only a single candidate would emerge on the pdp ticket, (or any other party's ticket for that matter, since a party cant fly multiple presidential candidates) IF the east secures the party's ticket.

Now, we all know NO OTHER CANDIDATE from any other political platform would come close to the pdp candidate in terms of support from Easterners. Even Ikemba couldnt get more votes than the pdp candidate (who wasnt even from the east for that matter) in the east when he ran for election. So there's no risk of splitting eastern votes between multiple eastern candidates on different platforms. It will ALWAYS BE AN ALL PDP AFFAIR as for as presidential election is concerned in the east.

Now, what stops Clerk from saying he'dsupport such a candidate or even ensure an Igbo man secures the party's ticket?

Can you people see your defence lacks even the slightest of logic?

Saraki is technically from the South anyway,but that's another topic.

Has there been a strategic and aggressive drive from the SE so far,apart from insulting everyone else?Have any political aspirant from the SE consulted him like Saraki did?These are questions we should ask.

He can't just wake up and support anyone.

OmenkaLives I beg to disagree.Pa Edwin Clark is absolutely right.The South be it Igbo,Yoruba or any other ethic down south must present a consensus candidate.That way we'll have a fighting chance against the North.

The Igbos coming forward with different candidates won't,and to a larger extent the South,help our quest to get to Aso Rock.

walemoney007:
I do not understand what you're talking about

The Apois in Ondo state speak Yoruba, their lifestyle and way of life is the Yoruba way.

Most of them even see themselves as Yoruba, most Apois I know, are living in Ibadan and Lagos, they school in schools in the South West

Believe me, they are not ready to drop their language or way of live for any Ijaw central dialect.

That's because they are in a state dominated by Yorubas,and in order to survive economically or politically they must identify somewhat with the dominant ethnic group.This will not be so if they were in say,an Ijaw republic or an Ijaw dominant state.

I know some Apoi and Arogbo myself,and they proudly identify themselves as Ijaws,even though they speak only Yoruba.

Some of you Igbos are taking this too far.Tribal wars start from things as little as this.So make una dey think this thing well well o.

9Pluto:
The Finima part of Bonny local government area has been embroiled in some leadership tussle recently which has unfortunately resulted in some form of bloodshed. While a section of the Brown(Omuso Brown) house has made their claims and installed their so called Amadabo of Finima, another section sought the counsel of the Hart House, got the recognition of His Majesty, The Amanyanabo of Bonny and also capped their own Chief recently. In both cases, supporters of each block have been making reference to one single entity—history. The question is; if both parties are referencing history (a series of past events that happened at a time), why are their claims different from one another?
Well, the simple answer is that Bonny history as well as the history of a vast majority of the riverine people in Rivers State has been continuously falsified. This is despite the fact that they were among some of the earliest southerners in Nigeria to come in contact with Europeans and have most of their history well documented than most other parts of Nigeria. Unfortunately, most people including the youths only go to school routinely but do not read or ask critical questions or conduct their own research.
Parts of the narratives I have listened to about the Finima crisis was from no other person but Asari Dokubo(Ediabali himself). In his account in support of the Amadabo group, he made a lot of claims which include the following:
He questioned King Pepple’s authority over Finima
He practically questioned the Manilla Pepples’s identity in Bonny, claiming they are strangers in Bonny who met Bonny Aborigines
Though I am interested in knowing where these strangers came from, however, I will leave this for the Pepple family to address as there is more than enough historical record on Bonny and its indigenous people devoid of recent Nigerian authored fabrications.
He also talked about Bonny people chasing away some earlier Amanyanabo until Europeans intervened
Truth is no Amanyanabo has ever been deposed in Bonny. Except for maybe the current Kings father who was forced into fleeing Bonny when Isaac Adaka Boro attacked his palace during the civil war, none of the other Kings who abdicated his throne was an Amanyanabo including the Great Jaja of Opobo. Amanyanabo is a recent traditional title.
He claimed Kalabari and Bonny has similar tradition and to a lesser extent Okrika and Nembe
I do not know to what extent he wants to take his claim about Kalabari and Bonny having similar tradition, however Kalabari and Bonny people both have different origin. Truth is Bonny people are of mixed origin and are not people of a single ethnicity. According to Captain Hugh Crow of Liverpool in his memoirs, they were originally a mix of majority Ngwa and Ndoki Igbos(King Pepple, Halliday, Asimini, Hart etc) and Brass people. This is why the igbo language, culture and tradition(masquerades, music, musical instruments, body marks also known as uri) continue to persist in Bonny till tomorrow. Bonny natives were traditionally known to have two short perpendicular tribal marks beside their eyes which is typical of the igbo tribal mark.
Of course, there have been later migrants from both Arochukwu people and parts of Kalabari(who are mostly found in Finima).
He claimed Finima was in existence before Manilla Pepple’s house
Well, most early European accounts of Bonny did not record the existence of Finima community despite the fact that they were already trading with the Pepple’s around the 18th century(1701-1800). This is a significant pointer that Finima community was not in existence during the reign of Opubo the great. In case Asari or any other person would want to come up with all those false narratives about 1500’s, the truth is, Bonny was not in existence then.

Like I said earlier, most parts of the riverine communities (Okrika, Kalabari, Andoni etc) of the current Rivers State are heterogenous in origin. Before the arrival of ijaws east of the Niger delta, some of the most documented people on the east coast were, the Igbos(including the Breetche/mgburuichi), Efiks, Ibibios, Mongs, Quaws, Ottam, Brass and Apias. However, some of this people have been supplanted today. It is on record that a significant section of Okrika(Nwa creek/Wakirike) were igbo who originated from the Afam. Some of them like Asari himself confirmed, still speak the igbo language and in the recent past was ruled by King Ohakwe. The same thing applies to the heterogenous origin of Kalabari(New Calabar). This were originally efik/ibibiod people who later mixed up with igbos and ijaws of which the Ediabali lineage was one of the most influential.
However, what is worrisome in most of these places is the ijaws penchant of falsifying history or records and claiming that most of these localities are exclusively ijaws despite obvious linguistic and cultural differences. Some ijaw revisionists have continued to claim ijaw is the 4th largest ethnic group in Nigeria ahead of the Efik/Ibibio and Tiv. Meanwhile, it is on record in Awolowo’s speech in 1967 that while the Efik/Ibibio had a population of about 2.5 million people, Ijaws were a mere seven hundred thousand (700,000) people.
Yet several recalcitrant elements from this group have continued to make false claims including recent claims that Ijaws are indigenous to Ondo, Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers, Abia, Akwa-Ibom and Cross-River Sate. Some have even included Ogoja in an as shown in the picture below. One funny thing is that if the so called ijaw groups assemble today, they are going to communicate in English language because a Okrika man would not understand a Gbaramaturu man, a Bonny man would not understand an Ogbia man etc yet ijaws continue to lump people of entirely different origins together under the false ijaw claim. To solve the language confusion, they are proposing the replacement of indigenous languages in some localities while suggesting the formation of a new language by borrowing words from the different groups in the delta to form a new language. The first of such a dubious project in Nigeria.
This is a wake up call to Niger Delta communities in general and Bonny people in particular. The youths most especially need to read and properly research their identity so they would not be conferred a false identity due to false narratives. It is not enough to go to be literate, as one has to be capable of critical thinking and start questioning several false narratives being peddled around in the name of history to avoid the illusory truth effect…in psychology, a situation where you hear the same falsehood over and over again till you begin to believe it.

What is the point of this silly thread exactly?

You've infiltrated all Ijaw groups on Facebook,and have seen how the people identified themselves proudly as Ijaws.Some of you have gone to the extent of editing Ijaw history on Wikipedia.We have identified some of you here on Nairaland on those Ijaw Facebook group.

Of course, we know it's because of the coming general elections. That will be the first thing the next man will implement.

Abeg i wan ask a stupid question o...

Since he wants to forfeit his certificates now he is born again because he participated in exam malpractices about 21 years ago.What happens if he had children out of wedlock as a result of fornication, will he reject them too?

I know say na stupid question o,make una no vex.