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Dtruthspeaker:
Dundeella, when our mother told us not to touch the meat in the pot when we were kids, we did not know any other good or bad of it other than mummy must be obeyed. Gorilla.

naked mole rat, when your mother told you not to touch the meat in the pot you coded it when you were kids, if you didn't know any good or bad of it other than mummys word then you shouldn't have known what obedience is because if you know obedience that means you know what is good and bad. disfigured zombie.

Beretta03:
if you actually typed YES that means you have contradicted your false religious beliefs big time and you have inadvertently destroyed your religion and what you think you believe in.

Why do god have to destroy them when he created evil in the first place?
And we still have what was happening then in this time of our era why not destroy the world again?

If all knowing is not the definition of God that means your own god is not a god but a human.
If all knowing is not the definition of God then why should your own god be called god?
You have blasphemed against your god and belittled him in the most inhumane way possible.

If he doesn't know what you are thinking how is he able to solve your problems or answer your prayers?
If he doesn't know what you are thinking how is he able to tell you before hands what will happen to you in the future?
If he doesn't know what you are thinking how can he be capable of creating the universe talk more of humans?

It is obvious that your god is a man-made ideology and with a man made instinct
Your god is not worthy to be called a god but human.
What are his plans?
If your god is not interested in his creatures then why create them in the first place?
The psychics, fortune tellers, the seers and prophets that see beyond the physical realm with supernatural insights that sees vision of the future where did they get their powers from?
How are the psychics able to give you a correct vision of everything about yourself, your name, your school and what will happen to you in a few day time with precise claivoyance and telepathy?

I wanted to ask him a different questions from this but you tried shaa..let me know whether he can counter you!!

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you have no further questions!
Thanks.

it seems you couldn't see the hidden questions waiting for answers in my response
You wanted me to put question marks before you can know I am asking you questions.
But like I expected your brain is as dull as the responses you directed to me
But I will help break it down for your underdeveloped brain.
1.so god cursed humans for being like him if so that simply means heaven and hell does not exist...are we are ripping the fruit of our disobedience here on earth?
2.if he has given us freewill then why does he have to interfere in the freewill he has given to men by destroying sodom and gomorrah and destroying humanity during the time of Noah?
3.if your god is not all knowing why should he be called a god in the first place?
If he is not all knowing do you think he is capable of creating the universe and humans or knowing what they think in their hearts?
If he is not all knowing as you claim do you think that prophecy or revelation would be in existence?
Why put adam and eve in a test when he already know the outcome? and if he is not capable of knowing the outcome then that your god is a man made ideology that thinks and reason like human

4.if god is not a man then why would he regret ever creating man?...simply means he is not immortal but have the scope of a mortal man because it is only a mortal man that makes mistake
5.if you claim he created the angels why didn't he know that some of his angels will rebel against him...why not destroy the rebelled angels than destroying the whole of humanity?

Beretta03:
I just stumbled into your thread by chance and I was expecting him to counter you but he couldn't.

I love that your last reply to him.

okay waiting for him to counter that....but he doesn't have the mental capacity to do that

Beretta03:
you don't have anything to explain mumu!!
If you had something reasonable to say why not counter him!!

the idiot don't have anything reasonable to say he has been going round in circles.
I didn't know you were into religious topics?

MaxInDHouse:
I told you that tree symbolises politics which is the result of seeking independence from God's virtuous standard, it's not a literal tree.

Both spirit beings and humans are free agents so they can choose to live by God's standard or decline, Satan did and so Adam and his wife too that's not God's fault.

He didn't create a devil rather the intelligent spirit being chose to be a devil so just as your child may choose to follow your path or decline the same applies here.

Stopping them will mean He has not done a perfect job that's why He watched to see how they will respond. The same happened to Job and Jesus and both stood firm without shaking!

There you go again!
I told you He is not all knowing!
Must i turn it into a song before you grasp this?

Your PERSONAL opinion!

The curse is to show them that He is no longer supporting them let them enjoy their so called freedom and it's consequences!

so because man wanted to be independent from god he decided to curse them.
He wanted you to be like a zombie that is an idiot machine not having a mind of your own or a freewill.
He wanted you to be naked roaming around like a monkey hunting one food in the bush that was why he cursed them because they have become like gods.

If spirit beings and humans are free agents that can choose to live by Gods standard that means we as humans are living the life he predestined us to live...because according to your book god created good and evil.

Wow you are being herectical to the so called book you seek to preach because the book made mention of the devil...so if he didn't create a devil that means the devil does not exist rather we are following the path god predestined us to follow

Stoping them will mean he hasn't done a perfect job really?
But watching them eat the fruit and cursing them afterwards means he had done a perfect job...and watching the whole of humanity suffer and be destroyed means he has done a perfect job.
Why put them on a test as an all knowing god since he already knows the outcome...my dear that your god is not capable of being a god and I doubt he even created the universe not to talk of humans.
See how you just belittled your god to the scope of human

If he is not all knowing that means you are worshipping a dead god who isn't capable of creating the universe or even human because this your god looks like a man made ideology

The fact which you can't counter so I am very much correct in that aspect!!!

This your god must be a human
If he is no longer in support of human and gave them the freewill to enjoy their freedom and consequences then he shouldn't have bothered destroying the whole of sodom and gomorrah neither could he have bothered exterminating the whole of mankind in the time of noah ...
Neither could he have bothered sending his son to die for mankind for their sins
your premise and conclusion is stupid and foolish at the same time.

Dtruthspeaker:
Expired mumu! No one tells a 10day old baby to give names to things nor take care of anything only grown ups can do that and it is only a grown up man who understands and knows the value of a woman even to the point of disobeying his Parents (God).

10day olds can never do that.

rotten idiot! adam and eve were like 10 day old babies because they don't know what is good and bad.
Giving names to animals is not in anyway linked to knowing what is good and bad..they were just doing as instructed....more like a robot.
How do you know that you are disobeying your parents when you don't know what is good and bad?....you are a zombie!!!

MaxInDHouse:
My friend go straight to your question!

If the so called pagan god of the Jews didn't create human being to die but to live forever why did he create the tree of good and evil?

Why did the pagan god give devil the chance to deceive his own creature?
Why didn't he cage the devil he created or rather kill it for an utopia state?

Why did the pagan god had to watch for them to eat the fruit before he started the curse when he had every opportunity to stop them from eating the forbidden fruit?

If the pagan god was all knowing why didn't the god create a creature that will obey him not excluding the devil ?

I put it to you that the pagan god knows that they will eventually eat the fruit

Why did the pagan god have to curse them when the god know that his creature know not what is good and evil?....and by so doing they were zombies at that point in time.

MaxInDHouse:
You've not asked any further questions rather you're just making assertions based on what you've concluded in your heart.
Please indicate your question by ending with a question mark "?"

But as regards your comment which you're denying now this is what you typed:



You can't escape through abusive speeches so calm down and let's talk because i'm not moved by your aggression neither will i allow you turn this discussion into exchange of insults!

and you can't escape through Stupidity because you have nothing reasonable to say.
I am not even aggressive because if I divert to aggression trust me you can't stand the heat in the kitchen.

Dtruthspeaker:
Burnt dodo! I raised 3 things and 'mumble' is not one of them so, you said no thing.



How many times have you been wearing clothes and one day, when something happened you said "I FEEL Exposed?" or "Bola don't expose me"

Nudity is not the only unclothedness!

Like I said, Bible is not for you, so go elsewhere to find solution to your problems.

burnt blobfish!!! your brain is damaged because you reason like a zombie!!!
You didn't mention anything reasonable because your bleating new senseless gibberish!!
"A 10day old baby does not say "ah, woman" or gives names to things nor knows obedience nor how to blame another person for his actions and mistakes".
Look at what you stated above and tell me whether you made sense.
According to the book god told Adam to name every animal he created and take care of them..there were zombies doing as there were instructed...naming animals does not in anywhere show having knowledge of good and evil.
Adam and eve does not know obedience because they don't know what is good and bad...they were doing as there were instructed more like an idiot machine.
Adam and eve never knew how to blame others for their mistake...it was when they consumed the fruit of good and evil that they discernment creeped in.

Adam and eve were physically naked so they were just like a new born baby because they don't have the knowledge of their naked(discernment of what is good from bad)they were like zombies.

Fool... bible is not for you either because you are a dumbo go elsewhere and go solve the misery and abject poverty that have held you hostage!!!....mo.ron.

MaxInDHouse:
This is what you typed:

So stop putting words into people's mouth and try to listen attentively before running to conclusion.

He assigned each to a post so since He's not all knowing how can He know who will rebel or who will not? I told you that it's still your false religious background that's driving you not what you're reading now. So calm down, format all the gibberish you've heard in those false religions and reason first before jumping to conclusions.

Your PERSONAL opinion!

Still your PERSONAL opinion but since you've gotten your own kind of God so let's talk about the God you know and what you've learned about it!

that is not what I typed!!
You typed that your god is not all knowing, omniprescence and ommiscience so I followed you up on your warped ideology. Now you want to deny your premise that resulted to our elenchus.
it seems you are Suffering from selective amnesia

Answer my questions stop beating around the bush

If your god is not all knowing he isn't capable of creating the universe and humans...infact he shouldn't be called the supreme but a man-made god
Your false religion is christianity and the fake doctrine,you as a false deluded slave seek to preach and with all the senseless gibberish you as a slave having been Typing down from the onset of our discourse

Yes a fact that is very valid!!!

I am a pagan....the Gods answers our supplication with the necessary enchantment
Our God is all knowing, omnipresent, ommiscience and omnipotent.

budaatum:
I don't see why I should prove a thing does not exist in a thread not related to the existence of that thing while you choose to ignore the questions you posed in your own thread. After all this thread is not about God's existence or not. I've even asked you to open a thread on that issue and invite me to it so as not to derail your own thread but you appear to have failed to do so.

Either ways, I do not hold discussions with those who fail to read what I write and insert their own beliefs in place of what I write, and nor do I see the point discussing with those who can not say what they have to say without being rude, and stupid in your case as you are being.

If you want me to prove to you that Okonkwo and Harry Potter and Gods do not exist, learn some manners and start a thread, or force me if you can. Until then, sweat, I suppose.

you are Typing rubbish!!!
You made an assumption of adam and eve but your Stupidity didn't allow you to know that in the said book that it was God that created adam and eve.

I asked you whether you are an atheist and you answered yes.
I asked you to defend your atheism and you are here using evasive technique to try to dodge the questions you have no reasonable answer to.

The fact still remains that you don't have any proof to defend your atheism...so your premise and conclusion is invalid, foolish and stupid.

Dtruthspeaker:
A 10day old baby does not say "ah, woman" or gives names to things nor knows obedience nor how to blame another person for his actions and mistakes.

So, nothing for you.

The Bible is not for you.

mumu a 10days old baby mumbles
I used a baby at that age because he can't be able to decipher what is good and evil.
According to the bible Adam and Eve were naked but they didn't know they were naked because they don't know what is good and bad. So eve about to eat the fruits simply means at that point in time she never had the knowledge that what she was doing was either good nor bad.

Like I said earlier you are too slow, dull and stupid at the same time.

You are just a religious zombie with no sense of logic and reasoning.

budaatum:
And you say this despite me emphatically saying Gods do not exist and that I do not have beliefs on the matter since I know?

Okay if that is what is "obvious" to you. Many see what is not there so I am not in the least surprised. But if you open your eyes and see instead of making crap up and believing it you are most welcome to engage me in what you posted in this thread. In the meantime, top of the day to you sir.

you are so myopic. you claim that God does not exist and I ask you to defend your belief you started typing rubbish!!!

You can't even defend your atheist belief!!
If actually you think in your debased mindset that God doesn't exist then you should actually have proof to defend your assertion.

budaatum:
As for this, "definition of GOD" by whom exactly should I check?

https://www.nairaland.com/4357359/what-god

it is obvious you are a novice who is seeking to know whether God exist or not.

You are just wavering not yet sure of your beliefs

MaxInDHouse:
How do you come up with such a logic?
An engineer knows all the components that makes up the car he himself created, not so?
Then how come you think the God who created all things can't know everything about what He Himself created?

His angels are monitoring His works so if you're walking with God it means you're part of His employees so His angels are watching over you. They're the ones serving as His eyes {Ezekiel 10:12} everywhere His workers go! 2Chronicles 16:9

Please what exactly are you trying to say here? I said according to His word God is not Omniscient so what are you saying now?

His angels are moving throughout the earth, they're the ones recording the name of those doing God's will {Malachi 3:16} so if anyone is not found written in their records such a person is doomed! Revelations 20:15

If you're here to preach atheism no wahala but take it easy nobody is quarrelling with you in fact i'm enjoying our discussion after all you're asking and receiving just as Christ Jesus said! Matthew 7:7

You're welcome in Jesus name!

I am beginning to think you are suffering from selective amnesia
You were the one that stated that your god is not all knowing, omniprescence and omnipotent.
I was following you up based on your stupid analogy.

If you claim that his angels are working with God why didn't he know that some of his angels will rebel against him.
That simply means that the angels don't exist neither does demon exist.
What only exist is God, spirit, soul, supernatural and the universe.
You have inadvertently linked your god to the scope of human which have made you contradict yourself many times.

If you claim that your god is not ommiscience then he didn't create the universe neither did he create human.
Simply means you are worshipping a dead god.

Any god who is not all knowing isn't capable of creating the universe or humans, not to talk of the imaginary fictitious angels. Your ideology is warped.

I am not an atheist but I simply don't believe the religious bible.

budaatum:
I don't understand how you can ask me who created a thing I claim was not created, but let me say it again since you've shown you sometimes misunderstand what I wrote.

No one created either as far as I know. But if you have any evidence they were created by someone or something, do kindly present it here for all to see and consider.

it still boils down to the fact that you can't defend your atheist belief

Go and check the definition of "GOD"

You are speculating based on assumption without proof and facts

So your opinion holds no water.

budaatum:
As far as I know, no "who" created the universe and humans. The universe itself is billions of years old and came into existence long before humans, and all evidence shows today's humans evolved from beings that existed before them.

you are still beating around the bush.

Who created the universe?

And if you claim that humans evolved from beings that came before them so who created the beings?

budaatum:
I am not an atheist who ignorantly believes there is no God or there is a God.

I know Gods do not exist period, same way I know Okonkwo and Harry Potter do not exist. But if you want to argue that Okonkwo and Harry Potter and Gods exist or don't exist, be welcome to start another thread and hola.

then if you know Gods do not exist period so who created the universe and humans?

Dtruthspeaker:
The highlights and insults clearly show I touched your raw spot!

Your miserable life has only just begun, by this time next year you would be using another moniker to come and be begging for "nothing is too small" things.


That is why you came to vent your frustrations because things are not going well with you. D

It would only get worse for you devil like many of your kind here who made noise last year but have now almost extinguished because of suffering.

You are not the first devil coming here to lament. It is only your turn

you can't touch my raw spot....infact you no reach
You are only bleating like a decapitated goat.

You are one hell of a clown, you are wailing and shedding blood because you know your stupid religion is false and it is purely for political basis to keep the masses in check and you are also one of their slaves stupidly defending their false religion.

You are a typical example of a prisoner straight out of the dungeon who hails and extols the imaginary virtues of his captors

Wow I have really dealt with you so badly to the extent you started confessing the story of your life.
Me and you know quite well that you are living in abject poverty
I am sure you are in one dilapidated building in the corner of a village Typing shit with your outdated second hand phone.
The way of life of pigs is more superior to yours.
The last thing I expect is someone who can pass out as maggot is to come online to disgrace his entire lineage.

I came to address the Stupidity in religion but your brain which has being used for ritual by your village simps cannot decipher
Fyi, like I said earlier you are not worth my toe infact I worth a million times than your wretched miserable soul

Religion has sacrificed your brain to the men of god in your churches that is why they are getting rich why you are getting more poorer

It is obvious you are Suffering from SEVERE autism.
After typing rubbish you crawl back to the soak away pit and eat human feaces as usual

You better focus on your life that is on its way to perdition and how to save it because you are not safe at all

budaatum:
The person[s] who wrote the story created the characters in the story.

Unfortunately they did not include their names so I like most don't know who they are.

it is obvious you can't prove your atheist belief that there is no God.

Because humans didn't just fall from the sky?

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're asking questions intelligently not imposing what false religions spread about the Creator!



The Creator said:

"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" Genesis 1:26

God is an intelligent person so He created man to be intelligent (not all knowing) the only difference between man and God is that we have limited powers and knowledge regarding what God created so when any human plans evil against us we can only escape through chances but God knows all the elements as in components that form all things so He can stop whatever evil an intelligent creature plans to do to harm his fellow being.

Take for instance the case of Hananiah (Shadrach) Mishael (Meshak) and Azariah (Abednego) God never planned nor knew that Nebuchadnezzar will build a statue and demand that all the people should worship it.
Well it happened and the three Hebrews were brought forward for disobeying Nebuchadnezzar's order, the king ordered a big furnace be made and out of rage he told his attendants to make it hot seven times so that the three Hebrews may be totally destroyed in the fire.
So what will the Almighty do?
Well since He is the Creator who knows all the gases that makes up fire He turned it into an air conditioner for His friends but only the smoke of this fire killed Nebuchadnezzar's bouncers!

Again Daniel was betrayed so that the king's order caught up with him and he must be thrown into the lion's den.
What will the Almighty do?
He simply turned the lions into domestic pets just as they were when Adam named all the animals in Eden {Genesis 2:19} so the lions were playing with Daniel but when God's enemies were thrown in the same place the lions returned to their carnivores nature and they devoured God's enemies.

So we have lots and lots of instances that talks about God's indomitable power but regarding knowing all things? Well He knows everything pertaining to His own plans!

if you claim that religions who go contrary to your stupid idea is false then that simply means that all religion is false including the denomination you found yourself in.
And the irony of it all is that you have indirectly attested to the fact that you are preaching false religion coupled with your confusion and ignorance.

"God is an intelligent person so He created man to be intelligent (not all knowing) the only difference between man and God is that we have limited powers and knowledge regarding what God created so when any human plans evil against us we can only escape through chances but God knows all the elements as in components that form all things so He can stop whatever evil an intelligent creature plans to do to harm his fellow being".

You have contradicted yourself big-time see how you describe your god as if he is a mortal man from what you typed above
You are confusing yourself, If your god is not all knowing as you claim then he shouldn't know all the elements as in components that form all things as you typed since he created the universe?
If he is not omniprescence as you claim how can he stop whatever evil an intelligent creature plans to do to his fellow creature since he is not everywhere?
If he is ommiscience according to your false religion he should have created an utopian state

If he is not omniprescence or ommiscience how will he judge human according to what your false religion preach about?

It simply means the bible was invented by primitive humans...but our brains are more advanced to accept all those shit
You better stay woke all remain in the stone age

budaatum:
Think? Please! Adam and Eve came from the same place Harry Potter and Okonkwo and Ikemefuna came from, which is from the amazingly wonderful imaginative minds of those who wrote the stories about them.

then who created them?

MaxInDHouse:
You've been thoroughly deceived by false religions for so long that you're not patient to discuss intelligently anymore.
First go and check the definition of the title "GOD" then come back and tell me if it has to do with all knowing!

FYI you are the one deluding yourself with your blatant Stupidity!!!

(in Christianity and other monotheistic religions)GOD is the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.

So tell me how the creator of the universe wouldn't be all knowing, omniprescence and ommiscience?

budaatum:
Yes I am. And I am telling you that the story you are asking about is one of the best and most influential and powerful stories ever written if understood.

if you are an atheist then where did you think adam and eve came from?

MaxInDHouse:
All powerful? YES! But as for the highlighted He never claimed so in fact His words made it clear to us that He only knows what is happening among His friends as for what His enemies choose to do He is less concerned because they can never ever stop His plan!

it seems you are actually blaspheming against the so called invented bible you seek to preach.

So GOD have enemies?


I am beginning to doubt if that god is actually a God at all based on your stupid analogy.

So how does he intend to judge humans if he is not all knowing and omniprescence.?

If he is lacking the qualities of what a God stands for then he shouldn't call himself a god according to your stupid analogy.

Dtruthspeaker:
None of your business! After all you do not need it.

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If you believe that heaven and hell is real then you are an idiot.

There is nothing to believe. Life is either sweet (heavenly) or bitter (hell).

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We are all godly because we know what is good and evil.

It goes without saying.


You should focusore on your life and problems and carry your cross because you are not safe.

I have had a very sweet life and living and I have all I want as God Promised.
So no problems here.

Butt I just pity you young generations as everyday, your tomorrows just keeps shrinking and shrinking worse and worse.

So it's your turn now.

you couldn't counter me because you are just so dumbo

You don't look like someone that has have a sweet life.
From your comment you have experienced bitterness all through your life and it seems they have served you a lot of it as breakfast steadily

This clearly validates my assertion that you are living in abject poverty.
And meanwhile you are not worth my wristwatch.

You have forgotten that this life is a journey and therefore you need to carry your cross to know we're your soul is heading to and Which karma awaits you in your next life.

Like the saying goes...it is the peculiar quality of a fool to pokenose while forgetting his own

budaatum:
You need to stop making stuff up because I don't see where I said God exists not to talk of a devil.

Read what I said again without the assumptions you've made about what I wrote and please come back to me because I personally love individuals like you who are prepared to question instead of believe crap.

so let me get it, you are an atheist?

Answer that question let us start from there

Dtruthspeaker:
Now Change of Post has started.



More slander



That means you can drop it just the way you have dropped the book "Animal Farm" if you even know the book at all.

you are changing your Stupidity from one gear to another

You can only slander yourself!!!

At least the animal farms just tell you more of what those legalized madness religion is up to.

Dtruthspeaker:
God will still not help you and your life is never going to be sweet as life gets worse and worse for you people everyday..

You are first class buffoon!!!

You are just more like a slave praising your captors

You can never reach my statusco in this life
I have enough money that can feed you and your entire generation from everlasting abject poverty.

Continue quoting the bible invented by human and inspired by human.

Continue quoting your bible while living in trenches and eating sand

Dtruthspeaker:
As prophecied the more they suffer the more blasphemies they shall speak until their calamities utterly destroy them.

I believe that you are the one seriously suffering in abject poverty
Have you eaten today?
I am quite sure you don't even have money to feed yourself three square meal a day.
Here you come foolishly quoting the bible invented by men

You useless, stupid, foolish, dirty, piece of rag.
I suggest you should focus more on how to liberate yourself from the curses and calamity you found yourself in and find out ways of solving your problems