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Ekinematics:
From afonja to Urhobo.
Maybe next time I'll be Hausa.
See how confused you lots are?

Must u always include 'matics' in ur moniker? Dead give away...
Ehn! I don catch am?

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Ekinematics:
Wow I've learnt something new day.
1. Okrika has 2 first languages and Ibo is 1
2. There's a part of Abuloma that's not Port Harcourt

After spewing these rubbish I know you will be feeling fulfilled.

Urhobo boy, respect ur sef Oo

blues20:
Who is arguing that with you. An average Igbo from Imo or Abia will understand Ikwerre better than Ebonyi dialect. Ikwerre, culturally and linguistically is Igbo, but politically they are not.

Word!

That is y u see them in Ohaneze, Massob and IPOB.

blues20:
Va = Emolga. Bia = Ikwerre, Obio/Akpor and Rebisi......

its not pronounced 'va' but 'bva'. Bva henm, as in 'come here', same as 'bia apa' use by Rebisi people. In Igbo you say bia eba\ebe\nga\ah....' depending on the dialect you are coming from. Ikwerre do not speak one dialect, so you ain't get a case here Mrs. Nengi.

Any sensible person would know they are saying the same thing but differentiation in pronunciation.

blues20:
I cannot say of western Ijaws, but the Eastern Ijaws are too close knitted with the Igbos.... especially from the Ikwerre axis, beginning from Obakiri, down to Iginigbar, (Opobo and Bonny) etc, you see a natural blend of the two ethnic group. Century of co-existence without any record history of hostility. If not for Nigerian politics.....

Yeah! Eastern and western dynamics, with Bayelsa in the middle. The good part is the record of peaceful co-existence. We need to build economically on that. Peace has economic gain.

blues20:
Forget this e-warriors. They are noise makers. Situation on ground speaks otherwise.... Some of them com-mentors here might not even be from Ijaw. so

GodIsBiafran:
Ijaws remain our closest ally. Make no mistake about that. Ignore insignificant morons like Tonye Barcanista. Who spends 90% of his time on this earth concocting subtle/passive aggressive anti-Igbo rhetorics. Tonye is not recognized as an Ijaw of worth. He does not decide for Ijaw people who I know very well.

For SS/SE sake, i hope u two are correct about that. lol

blues20:
I just did some code compile, your moniker translates to headache. e'dey give headache.

The Ijaws are suppose to be Igbo closest Ally.
I dont think igbo are as mixed with any other group in Nigeria as they are with the Ijaw.
However, as it stands today, Ibibio are igbo closest and most trusted Ally.

blues20:
I just did some code compile, your moniker translates to headache. e'dey give headache.

My brother, u cannot have a southsouth without including igbo. It is geographically impossible. Unless u want to exclude the good people of AkwaCross from the southsouth geopolitical zone.

blues20:
Men with vision are already working to harmonize both region, especially on economic terms. The recent S'East/S'South economic summit is a testament. The interchange of both region will definitely lead to an economic boom this part of Africa.... but you can't stop some unguided and myopic charlatans who are fixated on an imaginary domineering Igbos to keep chanting and making a noise as usual.
We know who are the domineering group in Nigeria. The Igbo man is fair to all, as is encoded in our core tenet 'Egbe biri, Ugo biri.....' this is our driving force...... nogh said.

I like the opening comment, u will not find many of the landing claiming tribal jingoist there.

They claim land but do nothing with it, whilst plotting their migration to Lagos and Abuja.

Anybody with half a brain knows that both region have been badly exploited and neglected and they should be working together to close the gap from decades of neglect.

They are interdependent and inseparable.

Anybody fighting igbo is not ready to face the problem that is facing them and a coward and time waster, that will never achieve anything.

Igbo came together and supported GEJ knowing fully well that due to his weak leadership and sheepish approach he was not going to win. We supported him anyway.

If GEJ was Urhobo or Bini or Ibibio or Efik we do the same for them. That is the spirit.

Until the southern minority accept the invitation and join igbo on the round table of brotherhood, we together will continue to be victimised in this fraudulent entity called Nigeria.

There was once a time, the South could boast of at least(minimum) of 4 City States namely, Nembe, Bonny/Opobo, Okirika(Eclipsed by Port Harcourt now), Calabar.

Today, we rather argue over land, whilst we all migrate to newly established City States called Lagos, Abuja and Kano.

Wat a shame, how did it get so bad without hope of recovery/redemption? smh!

blues20:
Nigerian politics is the reason. Nigerian politics breeds bitterness in the hearts of the gullible.

As it stands today in NIGERIA, the South West have Lagos as a commercial hub. Trade flows from Lagos to Ogun and other nearby state.
Abuja is their for the North. They have also developed Kaduna and Kano very well.

Now all this development is with Igbo, Ijaw, Ibibio, Urhobo, Itsekiri oil money.

We should all be coming together with a plan to establish wat is known as Economic zone, like Lagos.

blues20:
You are very correct. I was shocked on a visit to Okwujuagu, (pardon my spelling) to see the indigents communicating in Igbo.... They are both fluent in Igbo and Ijaw language. A visit to the island will confirm this story. But online Ijaw warriors will not state this.... the peaceful co-existence of both ethnic group from time immemorial.....

My brother that was y TonyeBarcanista comment here tire me. How can he say dat? Are u sure he is from Okirika?

I think he might be from Nembe or Southern Ijaw.

GodIsBiafran:
Oh God Almighty!!! What a beautiful and perfect post!!! I wish I can give you a million likes!!!! I couldn't have said it better.

TonyeBarcanista a Koniju(fisherman) whom is supposedly from okirika/ogubolo and abuloma keep dishing out false and malicious remarks about his brothers the Tuboniji(Trader/Farmer) from okirika/ogubolo and abuloma.

This calls for great concern becos if not checked could lead to tensions and hostilities.

The evidential fact on the ground that cannot be disputed are that Okirika have two first languages, kirike and Igbo. Many are bilingual. They are a healthy mix of Ijaw and Igbo. Though they all identify as Okirika rather than either ethnic group.

Okrika is a town founded on migration. The Ijaw migrant to Okirika are predominantly married to Igbo women. They co-exist alongside the Igbos peacefully.

Okirika is part of a much wider region called abuloma, though their languages are different. Certain parts of Abuloma falls into Port Harcourt. (mainly the water side) This is partly due to City expansion moved more towards Ikwerre areas delibrately excluding Okirika.

Okirika has a sizable population in Port Harcourt sprinkled in the south.

Clearly, any further expansion should incorporate Okirika island fully into Port Harcourt.

One thing that is certain is u cannot talk or mention Port Harcourt without mentioning Ikwerre and Okirika(Abuloma). The Ikwere have delibrately kept Okirika out of Port Harcourt based on fear that they will attempt to claim Igweocha as their ancestral land.

That fact was confirmed here by TonyeBarcanista claim that the entire Port Harcourt is ijaw land.

Alfred Diete-Spiff an Ijaw man disposed Igbo of their properties after the war becos they feared igbo dominated the City whilst many of them still lived on boat floating on water. Many ijaw in Port Harcourt are still living in houses taken from the igbos till this day.

It is not so much about the house but the land that the houses were built on have also changed ownership from Igbo to Ijaw.

TonyeBarcanista:
The status of Portharcourt is not what is up for contest.

Though the Okrika clan of Ijaw nation (which I belong to) own the Southern part of the city without dispute, there is still agitation that the entire PH belongs to Okrika, including the section occupied by Diobu people of Ikwerre, which was allegedly called "Igweocha". That however is a contest between the Ikwerre and Okrika clan of Ijaw nation.

Notwithstanding, it is out of place and inappropriate for anyone to think it is an Igbo city or any other tribe. Specifically, the Southern part is never up for contest.

It is funny however that the Okrikas are Ijaws, while the Ikwerre that is the other Party in the dispute claim to be a distinct group. I am not aware that the Igbos are laying claim, whether formally or otherwise to the city, except their claim is through the Ikwerre angle, which is the business between the Ikwerre and the Igbo.

Barcanista a Koniju(fisherman) whom is supposedly from okirika/ogubolo and abuloma keep dishing out false and malicious remarks about his brothers the Tuboniji(Trader/Farmer).

This calls for great concern becos if not checked could lead to tensions and hostilities.

The evident fact that cannot be disputed are that Okirika have two first languages, krike and Igbo. Many are bilingual. They are a healthy mix of Ijaw and Igbo. Thought tthey all identify as Okirika rather than either ethnic group.

Okrika is a town founded on migration. The Ijaw migrant to Okirika are predominantly married to Igbo women. They co-exist peacefully.

Okirika is part of a much wider region called abuloma, though their languages are different. Certain parts of Abuloma falls into Port Harcourt. (mainly the water side) This is partly due to City expansion moved more towards Ikwere areas excluding Okirika.

Okirika has a sizable population in Port Harcourt sprinkled in the south. Clearly, any further expansion should incorporate Okirika island fully into Port Harcourt.

One thing that is certain is u cannot talk or mention Port Harcourt without mentioning Ikwere and Okirika(Abuloma). The Ikwere have delibrately kept Okirika out of Port Harcourt based on fear that they will attempt to claim Igweocha as their ancestral land.

That fact is confirmed here by TonyeBarcanista claim that the entire Port Harcourt ijaw land.

Alfred Diete-Spiff an Ijaw man disposed Igbo of their properties after the war becos they feared igbo dominated the City whilst many of them still lived on boat. Many ijaw in Port Harcourt are still living in houses gotten from the igbos til this day.

It is not so much about the house but the land that the houses were built on have also changed ownership from Igbo to Ijaw.

TonyeBarcanista:
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Both Koniju and Tuboniju are IJAWS but Tuboniji also consist of ADOPTED slaves that we took as ours especially their women.

A slave has been adopted, if he/she wants to return to his/her place, the option is to return back. No slave is greater than the sons and daughters of the soil.

Ijaws are magnanimous and we have human dignity, hence we see adoptees as our own.

No adopted child can Carry the fortunes of the Foster parents to that of the biological parents. it is never done anywhere. When you are adopted you take the identity of the one that adopt you else you return to where you were picked.

As for PH, I have no business discussing it more than what I already posted.

Meanwhile, stop mentioning me please, I don't appreciate your mentions.

Thanks

U made no sense. If PDP is relying on ignoramus like u to reclaim their faded glory then PDP will not rule Nigeria anytime soon.

How dare u refer to Tuboniji igbo natives of Okirika as slaves? Do u have any prove that the Koniju were not also slaves?

U place emphasizes on Tuboniji women like Koniju dont have women of their own.

U almost sound like an Afonja lusting after igbo women.

Tuboniji and Koniju are both settlers on Okirika island. There are no son of the soil. There are no adoptee or foster parents. The same right the Koniju have on the island does the Tuboniji have on the island.

We refer to dat in legal terms as Joint Ownership.

I really worry about the way u were throwing the word slave around wen refering to the Tuboniji.

I hope the lastng peace between the Igbo and Ijaw and the record of peaceful coexistence is not about to be permanently broken over nothing.

U cannot be referring to a people as slave like that, wat makes them slave and u(Koniju) not a slave or criminals?(I need to know)

I will not insult Ijaw people becos of an idiot like u but i will strongly advice u that u tread carefully.

The igbo nation are a formidable force of reckoning. Don't aggravate or provoke us into anger.

Dont mistake our gesture of good will, forgiveness and friendship for weakness.

Respect a people if u want to ur own people to be respected, that is y even the Itsekiri that are half ijaw do not ever want to be identified or associated with the ijaw. U keep fighting everybody. hisssssss!

BREAK UP!

ORJI UZOR KALU SHOULD RETURN TO HIS FARM. HE CAN'T EVEN WIN PRESIDENT OF THE 5 EASTERN STATES.

Y am i not surprise? Product of Nigeria Education.

People send their children to School to learn when dey get there we start hearing Senior this and that.

Then their are the cultist that make life a living hell. Things have gone wrong long time, we have been saying it.

Y am i not surprise? Product of Nigeria Education.

People send their children to School to learn when dey get there we start hearing Senior this and that.

Then their are the cultist that make life a living hell. Things have gone wrong long time, we have been saying it.

Biafra is about Freedom, Justice and Peace.

These are the core principles and values.

Nigeria was a conglomeration of strange bedfellows concocted by the British.

We cannot really blame any tribe for that but we have a duty and responsibility to rectify any incorrect presumption or partnership.

We respect and value fratermarthy contribution from his own unique Urhobo perspective. Certainly their are other Urhobo out there that might think differently. We know this becos not even all Igbos are in support of Biafra.

That notwithstanding, it is wrong for Group that dislike another group to share a state or country.

This is why the whole Biafra agitation is happening, we want to identify our own people and draw a border to stop association with people that have deep seated hatred based on tribe and religion.

Many today are not happy with Fulani killings, those killings can only happen in Nigeria.

Do we continue to identify as Nigerians whilst the fulani plot and execute our mass funerals? I think not.

Biafra is a task that must be fulfilled.


I dont really gain anything from sharing country with Urhobo or any other group but as they share a border with us, it is courtesy to extended an invitation as u would invite a neighbour to ur party.

This view goes for all the other groups that border the igbos.

However, by extending the invitaion and having this discussion, many of my igbo people that are quick to associate with this groups will gain an insight into how these groups actually feel about them. It is an invaluable information. I personally dont need it becos i take time out to interact and study everybody.

I know SS/ND can nevr happen, y? becos Urhobo and Ijaw cannot leave each others neck alone.

Of all the groups in Nigeria, the ijaws have never fought against the igbos and as such they are bonifide Biafrans.

We can play with this concept and debate but wen push comes to shove, Ijaws are heading to Port Harcourt(Igwe Ocha)

Likewise, the ibibio and efik, who are practically brothers. Ebira sounds like igbo.

The Igala, we share a common ancestor Eri and many cannot distinguish between Idoma and Igbo, becos of our similar names.

We will not force anybody but will neither allow an inch of our people(whether Igbo or Igbiod or wateva u want to call them) to be left behind.

fratermathy:
You may debate it with them, IF AND ONLY IF THEY ARE WILLING TO DEBATE IT WITH YOU!!!

Thank God I am not recognised in your Biafran ideals. Nothing gives me greater joy.

Good night!

Guy forget this thing, u dey over stretch this matter. It is very straight forward and simple. No fighting!

fratermathy:
Now you want to derail the conversation by resorting to banters.

What is the connection between Philip Effiong and your right to speak for minorities in the SS? Did Philip Effiong give all Igbos the right to speak for the minorities?

That is a discussion that i will have with the original Biafran family.(Igbo, Ijaw, Ibibio/Efik, Ogoja)

I cannot be debating that with u. U are not recognized.

fratermathy:
Says the law of self-determination, the same law you guys quote to justify the Biafran agitation.

My friend keep quiet. mechionu!

Wen dem tell una go school, una go join gang.

Who is this man in the picture and wat is he doing?

Very difficult question to answer? Is it not?

Take ur time, we dey wait.

fratermathy:
And why are you dragging the aforementioned states into our argument? Where did I say I was speaking on their behalf?

My quarrel is that YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF!

Says who?

fratermathy:
You can keep speaking for them all you want. It doesn't change the fact that the ONLY VOICES that they hear and that which others RECOGNISE as theirs are those of their OWN PEOPLE!!!

You want liberation from Nigeria yet want to SPEAK for and DRAG uninterested groups into your country??

Why do you think each of these groups cannot run their own countries? Is there a law somewhere that they must go with Igbos?

Dont u think u are over stretching the matter?

We keep it simple. U have spoken for urself here and i have told u wat will happen.

Now, once that have happened, we draw a border to meet no more. Are ur people also in Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Cross Rivers etc?

fratermathy:
So you can speak for them but they can't speak for themselves and on behalf of their brothers in the SAME GEO-POLITICAL ZONE?

Haba! Haba! Haba!!!! This is exactly why Igbos are largely disliked by many of these groups.

Forget all the paranoia, the world is too civilised for that.

History is a valuable source of reference as to why i can speak for them and likewise they can speak for themselves and also the igbos.

fratermathy:
I'm glad this was established

Where did I speak for the SS?? Have you been following my posts on this thread?

Mind you, you also cannot speak for the minorities in the SS as well. So all of you should limit your aspirations to your ethnic borders.

I can becos in 1967 the earlier aforementioned group were part of Biafra at all levels from civil servant to military. There are non -igbo grups that are Biafrans.

Urhobo, bini, Itsekiri, Ishan, Afaemai, Igala, Idoma, Ebira are the exception. We will extended invitation to them individually, they are free to reject but some will accept.

ibtimes.co.uk
Biafra history

The Eastern Region, a former federal division of Nigeria with capital Enugu, became a secessionist state called Republic of Biafra after gaining independence from Nigeria in 1967. It was re-annexed in 1970 following the Nigerian-Biafran war that claimed one million lives.

After the end of the British rule in 1960, Nigeria consisted of territories that were not part of the nation before the colonisation, resulting in escalating tensions among the communities. People in the Eastern Region, mainly from the Igbo community, wanted to secede due to ethnic, religious and economic differences with other communities in Nigeria.

The Eastern Region gained independence following two coup d'etats in 1966 and 1967. The fact that Nigeria's oil was located in the south of the country played a major role in the eruption of the war, during which medicine and food shortages in Biafra led to the death of thousands of people.

Biafra has been commonly divided into four main "tribes": the Igbos, the Ibibio-Efiks, the Ijaws and the Ogojas.

The modern-day states that make up Biafra from the eastern region and midwest are: Abia, Anambra, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Enugu, Ebonyi, Imo, Delta, Rivers and Cross River, and Edo. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nigeria-illegal-radio-biafra-still-broadcasting-despite-government-effort-jam-signal-1511157

nengibo:
Check out ahoada language (Ekpeye) on youtube & see that these eboes are land grabbers

And wat are Ekpeye? Fulani? U are confused.