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YourNemesis:
Ebira couple at their wedding.

https://s29.postimg.org/5eo3hqixz/neww.png

Soo Igbotic.

laudate:
Don't be funny! What proof do you have that they are Okun? Look closely at what they are wearing! I fit borrow you my contact lens make you take look am again, o!

YourNemesis:
Ebira version of aso oke weaving. These are done on a loom called the "Oguntoro"

https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7956/649/1600/ebira_cloth5.jpg

E resemble Igbo culture for ya eye?

gregyboy:
why do u pple always want to contradict the benin history of creation is an abberation and absurd to benin people how would you say the yorubas existed b4 the benin so your thoery is 100% wrong bcus the empire existed b4 the yorubas came to being and for the record there was never really oyo empire

YourNemesis:
Proper Ebira family from Kogi state.

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Does that look Biafran to you, HammerF?

YourNemesis:
Ebira o, Okun o, Igala o... none of them are Biafran.
Tat is all you need to know.

YourNemesis:
lol, how can you "add" an antire people/tribe to an Emir?
Dont worry, All of Aniomaland will go back to where they belong historically. Under the Oba of Benin.

YourNemesis:
I never claimed to be Benin.

YourNemesis:
No need.... All of us are already co-existing peacefully in Lokoja.
And we all have plenty land for whaever we want.
That is part of the beauty of our alliance...... No one among us is lacking in resources.

Igbos on the other hand, just seem to be desperately looking for land everywhere. The desperation to form familiarity with everyone is so sad, really it is. I am sure if Igbos are left alone, they will even claim Nupe...

YourNemesis:
I jus dey look you one eye..
Ebiras are Yoruba in the root and Arewa in the branches.
Edos are Oduduwa In and out.

YourNemesis:
lol..... Have you ever seen an Igala person wanting to be Igbo?
Not me, not anyone.
Igalas interacted Heavily with both Yoruba and Benin,and are religiously plural, just like Yorubas and Edos.
The mask that the Atta wears (oju b'eju ailo) is even said to be gotten from the benins. Some said in a war, others said as a gift.

Ultimately even if we leave Igala alone, they will never be part of you guyz.... Just telling you that now, incase you think you can try anything.
If a referendum is held today, 70% of Igalas will chose to go with Oduduwa over Biafra. Thats just the fact.

cheruv:
I saw the map on a Yoruba Facebook group and I was so impressed with it. A Union of Yoruboid and Edoid ethnicities under the house of Izoduwa.
The only issue I've with the map is that of the Igala...just as France fought the British in the American revolutionary war(1775-1783) on account of the US,that's how we'd fight you guys if you don't leave the Igala alone

"That word Oba is indigenous to Benin. It is only in recent times you find everybody bearing Oba. When the Western Regional conference of traditional rulers took place in Benin City in 1942, go and check the attendance, there was no other monarch in the whole of the Western Region then that bore the title of Oba, except the Oba of Benin.

YourNemesis:
I dey o.
Just catching some fun here.
These Igbos in an attempt to discredit external influences in their affairs are now connecting some outlandish theories to save face o.

YourNemesis:
Benins are NOT Yoruba, and Yorubas are NOT Benin
But both (Yoruboids and Edoids) are like two peas in a pod.

I have never seen a people so much at home within Yoruba culture as Edos and Edoid Deltans before.
They are many of them even acting Yoruba movies these days.

Nigeria: Benin Kingdom in Edo Is Yoruba Territory - Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi

The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi, on Tuesday said Benin Kingdom in Edo State remained part of the expansive Yoruba race, a pronouncement that may spark fresh rivalry and altercation between people of the two ancient kingdoms.

The monarch made the comment in reaction to a statement credited to the palace of the Oba of Benin challenging the claim by the Alake of Egbaland, Adedotun Gbadebo, that the Ooni of Ife remained the pre-eminent spiritual leader in Yorubaland and environs.

Oba Ogunwusi, via a statement by his Director of Media and Public Affairs, Moses Olafare, made available to PREMIUM TIMES, said he was not interested in any supremacy battle with anyone but that he would continue to put the records straight and avoid distortion of history from any quarters.

The monarch said going by historical evidence detailing the Oduduwa lineage, Benin Kingdom remained part and parcel of Oduduwa House.

"We in Oduduwa land have always seen and regarded our people in Benin kingdom as part and parcel of Oduduwa House. They are our brothers and sisters, coupled with historical facts to back up this position," Ooni Ogunwusi said.

"The statement credited to the Alake of Egbaland, did not emanate from us but the reality is that as a highly experienced and well informed monarch, Kabiyesi Alake, who is a bonafide Oodua descendant is entitled to his opinion based on his knowledge and understanding of history," the Ooni said.

"Let me emphasize for the umpteenth time that Kabiyesi Ooni is less concerned over any supremacy hullabaloo. He is only interest for now in how the sacred throne of Oduduwa can explore measures through which the collective interest and genuine unity among Yoruba and other tribes within the larger House of Oduduwa can be enhanced.

"This informed his resolve to build bridges of harmony among Yourba Obas. I am resolutely committed to how Yoruba ethnic group can restore its glory and pride of position among other ethnic inclinations in Nigeria and don't want to be dragged into supremacy contest or join issues with anybody."

The traditional ruler said he recalled that about six years ago, attempt was made by some people to upturn history during the launch of a book titled: I REMAIN SIR, YOUR OBEDIENT SERVANT, which he said stood historical facts on its head.

Oba Ogunwusi stated that If the position espoused by the Oba of Benin Palace in the media "is aimed at distancing our people in Benin from the South West and Yoruba, so be it."

He however added, "We still identify with them as our kinsmen, regardless of the attempt to change the course of history."

The Alake had, while hosting the Oba Ogunwusi in his palace on February 7, rated the Ooni as the number one monarch in Yorubaland and other territories considered part of the Oduduwa House.

In his rating, Oba Gbadebo said Oba Ogunwusi was number one of the five principal Obas in Yorubaland, followed by the Alaafin of Oyo, then by the Oba of Benin (in third position), the Alake of Egbaland (fourth) and the Awujale of Ijebuland (fifth).

But in a swift reaction on Tuesday, the Esogban of Benin and Odionwere of the Kingdom, David Edebiri, rejected the ranking, saying the Ooni of Ife was a son of the Oba of Benin and that the Oba of Benin stool has no relationship with the Yoruba race.

The Esogban said, "We wanted to discard this report as something that was not necessary at all. We do not see how the Alake of Egbaland suddenly woke up to think that the Oba of Benin is also a Yoruba Oba.

"There is no basis for such classification; Oba of Benin has nothing to do with the Yoruba Obas. It is simply unnecessary, unless they simply want to stir up an unnecessary controversy.

"We are not in Yorubaland. To be frank, it is because many of them are not willing to come up with the truth, the word Oba is alien to Yoruba monarchy; it is not part of their title from time immemorial.

"For instance, the one they call the Oba of Lagos, these are recent adaptations. In the 50s, there was no Oba of Lagos, what we had was the Eleko of Eko. That is the title of the King there. In Ibadan, you have the Olu Ibadan. You come to Abeokuta, you have the Alake of Egba land. You come to Oyo, you have the Alaafin of Oyo. In Ilesha, you have the Owa-Obokun of IIesha. So no Yoruba monarch had as part of his titles the word Oba except the Oba of Benin.

"That word Oba is indigenous to Benin. It is only in recent times you find everybody bearing Oba. When the Western Regional conference of traditional rulers took place in Benin City in 1942, go and check the attendance, there was no other monarch in the whole of the Western Region then that bore the title of Oba, except the Oba of Benin.

"So it is an unnecessary excursion, an unnecessary attempt to turn history upside down by the Alake by classifying the Oba of Benin as third in the hierarchy of kings.

"Our own traditional history says that the Ooni of Ife was a Benin Prince who wandered from here to Ife, settled there and became the ruler there. That is the position, if they don't know, they should send people here; we will teach them.

"We will show them landmarks. So this is unnecessary misrepresentation of history. Maybe the Alake wanted to mention a different place and not Benin.

"The monarchical rulership in this part of the world started from Benin during the era of the Ogisos. It was the son of the last Ogiso, Owodo, that wandered from here to Ife and he became a ruler there, carrying everything about the Benin monarchical system to that place. There is no basis for such classification.

"The Ooni of Ife, by historical facts, is a son of the Oba of Benin, so they are not in the same class. The Oba of Benin is the only one that answers Oba, the rest don't. But today, we hear Oba here and there, they are all recent adaptations. I am saying categorically that the word Oba is indigenous to Benin and not to Yoruba nation."

http://allafrica.com/stories/201602100367.html

hammerT:



IDIOT! U HEAR EZE IN HIS NAME DEY CALL AM BINI. U ONLY NEED TO LOOK AT IS IGBO FACE, THAT AND HIS IGBO WIFE FACE.

BornStunner1:
I AM STILL CONTEMPLATING WHETHER TO REPORT YOU TO THE MODS FOR BANING OR NOT!!

BornStunner1:
DEM GO GIVE U LIKE 2YEARS BAN ATLEAST U WILL AV AMPLE TIME TO REASON UR LIFE

YourNemesis:
Yeah...right.
even Aguleri belongs to Yoruboids via igala.
We shall all have what is ours back when the time is right.

YourNemesis:
I am laughing because no sane person here will take you serious.
I just decided to jump into the discourse to have fun.

I can even say the place called Ogdi in Anambra is of Yoruba origin, because there is a Yoruba town called Ogidi.
Or that the place called Oba near onitsha was founded by some Eribos of a Benin or Yoruba Oba.
EVeryone can cook up things, but that does not make them all correct.

Obviously you are pained that Benin and EVEN Yoruba influences can be found in Igboland, but Igbo influences are confined to just igbo communities.

YourNemesis:
That does not man anything.
There are similarities between Yoruba and japanese. and between Benin and Malay.
Ebira is a nupoid language.

YourNemesis:
Ebira?
lol.... I'm so done.

YourNemesis:
hahaha... of course, it will add up to you now..
Afterall, you concocted it in your own head.

Maybe you are even the same guy that said Ijebu Igbo originated in the east.
Look at Okeluse in the map, won't you find an Igbo meaning for it too

YourNemesis:
Pls, which mixing with Yorubas are you talking about?
Is there any journals or publications of repute that mentions that Edos are a product of mixture between Yorubas and Igbos?
Pseudo history is sweet I swear.

YourNemesis:
So it does not apply in all cases, but it had to only apply to just the one that look similar to Ibo?
I see many Edo origin names in Ibo, not the other way round.