₦airaland Forum

LegendHer0:
@the bolded. You are a legend. I just discussed this not too long ago with a guy on here about that. The Yorubas are ganged against by the rest of the south except Edo.

Look at the likes, you’ll see them all swamped against the SW, if not that we are emotionally superior we would have been shouting marginalization and hatred just like the other alarmists.

But Oduduwa blood runs in us and we will SURVIVE any onslaught.

LegendHer0:
Shebi it’s your ancestors that gave us the land we are currently on right? Go to the map and carve out the SW out of Nigeria and come back to lay claim to your rubbish you’ve been chanting since.

I won’t reply you again coz it seems you’re a confirmed troll. You keep shouting SW not being south since and I wonder why your kinsmen can’t recommend you to a native doctor to cure you of your ignorance.

IgANephropathy:
If I lack sense, then there's no hope for you. Read your posts again or better, show it to the most educated in your household; and your stupidity is half-cured

LegendHer0:
You are right bro, I’ve always maintained that sentiment of yours also. The S.NorthWest is just around the den of lions called the south. In everything we are always antagonized, if you check public sentiment on Nairaland you will see the hate all around.

We have maintain our homogeneity and withstood most of the missiles from the other southerners and they always want to push us to submission by quoting a fluke southern unity.

Southern unity my as*

LegendHer0:
You are right, I ain’t projecting 2023 politics. If you check through all my comment you will see I’m tryna be in the defensive against one fact that the Igbos jeep churning out about Yorubas being southern betrayal.

That statement always makes my stomach turn coz the Igbos are the biggest hypocrite ever to grace mother earth. They have been betraying south since 1960, Yorubas did it once in 2015 and all hell let loose.

IgANephropathy:
You obviously lack comprehensive skills. Get better.

AyosMan:
See am an Urhobo man I need to make it clear before you people tag me ipob. When I read many of your comments here all I see are people without historical background or be they have short memory. Let me lecture some of you briefly....In the political history of this entity called Nigeria the Yoruba's have always known to play the opposition politics which I respect them for bcus every healthy society need opposition. Example, Awo played an opposition during his political Carrier days. I laugh when the Yoruba's here say that IBO's have always be relegated to the back sit in Nigeria politic that's, far from the truth. 1960 when Nigeria gain her independence the first governor general whom the colonial masters handed the power to was Tafa balewa from present Bauchi state and Dr. Namdi Azikiwe the Owelle of Onitsha who, became the president October 1963 when Nigeria became full fledge republic, while Tafa Balewa was the prime minister bcus it was a parliamentry system of government then. Also, the first military head in Nigeria is Agurosi from present IMO state, Dr Alex Ikweme was a vice president to Shagari in the first republic. The only Yoruba man was ever a military head of state was Obasanjo, also the first Yoruba man to occupy the office a civilian president in Nigeria same Obasanjo. Shonekon was just an accidental interim govt. This was while G.O Adeboye said in one of the then Holy Ghost congress that if there is any Yoruba man who should be grateful to God is Olushegu Obasanjo papa Iyabo. So the school of history actually has it the IBO's have never be relegated to the back sit in Nigeria politics. In 2015 the northerner needed power badly bcus they felt they were being shortchanged while the Yoruba's felt that the then president Jonathan was not carrying them along terms of appointment forgetting, that PDP zone the spearship to south west but tinubu used his them ACN members from south west to vote for Tambuwa present Sokoto state governor that was how he became a speaker, yet the Yoruba's blame Jonathan for it instead of tinubu that, was the begin of Jonathan misunderstanding with Tambuwa bcus of the same Yoruba's issue in the party zoning which Tambuwa went against!

IgANephropathy:
I asked you a direct question, yet, you could give any example. You returned back to your baseless rhetorics. Crying foul when you've only slide tackled yourselves...

Alien to Southern Nigeria? What does that even mean? And you people's d*ck sucking of the SS is epic. Are you scared of standing alone and tall.

Just so you know, the Yorubas have more influence on the South-South than the Igbos can ever have. But, the truth is: We dont care. We are self-sufficient and not scared of being alone. We fall 99 times and get back up 100 times. That is what being Yoruba is all about. Not b*tching about and ass-licking others.

Obdk:
The South East, South South and S.North West will never come together for anything..

Will you festacman vote an Igbo person? No..

But Igbos ve voted a yoruba man

Mandeyy:
When did Yoruba start playing national politics? Just this 2015 you stopped being in the opposition. It all started with Awolowo. Obj was not supported by your people, so don't count his stay in office as being your tribe playing national politics. He was a pan-Nigerian project.

IgANephropathy:
You are seriously confused and deluded. Prior to the APC union, tell me when Yorubas and Hausas ever had any alliance? If you mention the Civil war, then you are a dunce.

And i would list various occasions where Igbos have allied with the Hausas to 'hurt' Yorubas starting from Azikwe....who eternally jealoused Awolowo

IgANephropathy:
No tribe is filled with only saints, and the Southern rivalry is a good thing. It has pushed the region to achieve due to competition. But why does the SE always take this rivalry personal. The Yorubas were not created to fulfil the Igbos desires....Each region has responsibility for itself. The sooner the Igbos get that, the better

festacman:
If look closely at the name of the three entities you mentioned, you will notice all have one thing in common: South. So there is something "like the whole south" when the three entities come together.

Obdk:
Thr is nothing like the whole south. South west. South south and south east

Uchek:
Stop deceiving yourself. There is nothing like south. The so-called south sold their birthright to The north in 1967 when they joined the North in fighting a northern-inspired war against Biafra.The South sold its birthday by that singular action.

PureFace1:
We all know are you people in South South and South East hate Yoruba.

When GEJ was marginalizing South West you were all making jest of Yoruba and back then it was politics not betrayal.

Yoruba are giving massive support to APC and we deserve the presidency ticket.

If Igbo need the Presidency ticket they should demand it from PDP not APC, that's justice

ityP:
Nobody is dividing anything. Whether you like it or not, El-Rufai will be President

PureFace1:
You are the bitter, jealous and hateful people that hate Yoruba.

We all know are you people in South South and South East hate Yoruba.

When GEJ was marginalizing South West you were all making jest of Yoruba and back then it was politics not betrayal.

Yoruba have shown massive support to APC and we deserve the presidency ticket.

If Igbo need the Presidency ticket they should demand it from PDP that they are giving their massive support not APC they hate but because you hate to see Yoruba succeed that's why you are demanding for the ticket where Yoruba are working.

Yoruba are working in APC but you want to reap the reward while you neglect your own work in PDP, that's injustice of the highest order.

Mandeyy:
It was Awo's greed that made Zik allign with the North. Awo and other Yoruba leaders worked against Zik being the premier of Western region. Awo even extended his greed to who would be the vice Chancellor of University of Ibadan when he wanted Prof. Onabamiro to be the VC (principal then) of UI against Kenneth Dike who was overwhelmingly appointed to administer the UI. Awo even secretly wanted to allign with the North too. I believe you will not like to work with your enemies. That's Zik's point too. Like Zik, I can't work with backstabbers. Yorubas are backstabbers! They're two-faced.


In 1999, SW didn't have any strong political structure that could fetch them the post of president, but it was given to them because of Abiola's lost mandate. Igbos overwhelmingly supported Obj even when your SW was still in opposition. You're greedy. In fact, you and your people are greedy. You cannot be warning the North that it's unfair for them to continue in 2023, yet you don't see anything wrong in presidency going to the SW in 2023. You're too gre.edy and devi.lish!!!

omenka:

omenka(m): Quote Post
Good evening.

It has indeed been an interesting season of political jousting, even though the time hardly seems right for the sort of discussion going on - 2023 succession battle. This is mainly for three reasons:

1. The current administration administration is barely six months old and talks about its succession is kind of premature.

2. The next presidential election is over three years away. Talking about such no doubt constitutes a huge distraction to the business of governance.

3. Discussing 2023 when there is a subsisting case over the conduct of the just concluded election in the supreme court is like foreclosing the case before the court.

Nevertheless, this is Nigeria and we have our unique political etiquette. Preperation for the next election more or less begins right after the conclusion of one- hence all the public racket over 2023. Interestingly, no where else is this racket louder than that coming from the South East.

This brings us to the essense of this article.

The strategy/claims of the South East is three pronged going by the records available on print and electronic media.

1. There are three major languages in the country, two of which have produced presidents since 1999. They claim to promote equity and fairness, the zone needs to produce the next president.

2. Threaten Nigeria with a whole scale regional support for IPOB in an event the zone is denied presidency in 2023.

3. To heal the wounds of the civil war and foster unity, they have to be given a foolproof chance to produce the next president.

To achieve this goal, they are demanding that the APC hands over the presidential ticket to the South East!

Now, let me state this clearly: NO ONE HAS FORBIDDEN THE SOUTH EAST FROM CONTESTING FOR THE PRESIDENCY. NO ONE CAN AND NO ONE WILL.

The demand being made is well within their right we must admit, the snag lies in the MEANS THROUGH WHICH THEY INTEND TO REALISE THE DEMAND.

A little history will suffice at this juncture.

1. The South East is by far the greatest regional supporters of PDP, since 1999 so much so that through the efforts of people from the Zone, PDP almost faught APC to a standstill in APC's greatest stronghold, LAGOS. Remember in 2003, Lagos state was the only APC state (AD back then) that survived the onslaught of PDP, leading to the resurgence of the opposition from 2007 down to what we have today.

2. Even when the Great Ikemba, arguably the most respected figure from the South East in their political history, the South East still stood FIRMLY BEHIND PDP in a rare demonstration of love and loyalty.

3. When Buhari under the opposition, picked a vice presidential candidate from the South East, Chuba Okadigbo, the East STILL stood firmly behind PDP even though no one from the Zone was on the ballot!

4. Any politician from the South East that is seen covertly or overtly associating with APC is immediately ostracized by the people of the region. Okorocha and Umahi are most recent examples, but Umahi tona lesser extent because he remains a PDP member and he seems not to be doing too badly in comparison to others. Notwithstanding his membership of PDP, the fact he has a good report with the president or APC, he is seen as a low key saboteur, what they call SABO for short.

The list is endless.

That is for the East. Enter the West.

The West, just like the East, needs little introduction when it comes to their political leanings. What we have today as APC owes its formation and survival largely to the efforts of the West. From AD to ACN to APC with their sister CPC morphing from ANPP, the story is that of resilience, tact, hard work and sheer commitment.

Bear these in mind.

1. PDP is Twenty years old, whereas was barely formed in 2013. This means PDP is FOURTEEN YEARS OLDER than APC.

2. PDP has enjoyed and continues to enjoy unfettered loyalty in the South East right from inception. APC hasn't a single governor in the East, therefore the zone isnt a stronghold of the party by any stretch of the imagination.

3. In an event Buhari goes on to complete his second term uninterruptedly, from the foregoing, commonsense dictates that the party's presidential ticket goes to the South West. It is almost a birthright!!

Now, given all these, the questions arise:

1. On what basis is the East demanding the ticket of APC? What does their resumé with respect to the party look like?

2. On what basis should the West be denied the ticket?

3. What exactly is HINDERING THE EAST FROM DEMANDING THE PRESIDENTIAL TICKET FROM PDP,
a party they've expended incredible sweat and energy for?

4. Is the East willing to turn a new leaf from their belligerent posturing towards the APC in exchange for a consideration on having them on the ballot?

These are salient questions that need to be answered from the proponents of an East bound APC ticket.

In all of these, one undeniable joker reveals itself in their deck of cards for discerning minds. The joker Carrie's a roadmap for a return of PDP to the seat of power. A good political observer will admit there is no chance in hell the East will vote APC should both tickets be (APC and PDP) be zoned to the region. Hell, these guys stood against Ikemba (rest his soul) when he contested, it will take a Jesus to sway them to vote anyone besides PDP at a presidential poll.

That is an undeniable fact!

THAT IS SIMPLY TANTAMOUNT TO CEDING POWER TO PDP ON A SILVER PLATTER!

The world over, political parties have but one cardinal objective - secure power and preserve it at all legitimate cost. The leaders of such parties then use the platforms to execute the party's agenda for the people. No political party would commit itself to such a suicidal mission as is being advocated by proponents of a South East APC ticket - it doesn't happen fellas.

My advice therefore are:

1. Impress it upon PDP it is time you be rewarded for your loyalty and hardwor for the party that spans over two decades. There is no zone with as much legitimate claims to the party's ticket as you.

2. Shun all tactics of bullying and coercion. That isn't gonna work with Nigerians.

3. Start courting fellow Nigerians and build bridges of friendship. If you want the APC ticket, work for it.

4. Stop investing too much emotions into politics. You didn't become the most successful tribe (head to head) in trade and business by relying on your emotions. You did so through wisdom, tact and cunning. Apply the same principles to politics and see how far it takes you.



May we never be denied the fruits of our labour, amen.


Thank you, and God bless Nigeria.

candidtalk:
My friend stop talking. 1999 was about everyone realising Abiola, a Yoruba, won an election free and fair thereby meaning the Yorubas were cheated. It was the importance of the Yorubas, the struggle we put up to resist the cheating of Abiola and the fear of an ideologically disillusioned Yorubas that made the entire Nigeria realise we must be pacified as a way forward for 'one Nigeria'. It had nothing to do with you Igbos so don't revise history to begin overstating or romanticising your importance.

LegendHer0:
You’re still being emotional, Yoruba was President from 199 to 2007, VP from 2015-2019, and the most promising contender for 2023 election from the south.

After your bitter betrayal, what has the Igbo achieved in politics since 1993?

None!

LegendHer0:
What we couldn’t achieve through MKO, we did through OBJ.

But the effect of your actions then made sure the Igbos are relegated into the lowest of the lows, such that you dare not contest for presidency even after supporting the north in decimating MKO.

No rest for the wicked!

LegendHer0:
They formed NADECO, fought Babangida and Abacha to a standstill and got compensated with Obasanjo later!

Are we clear!

Osaze007:
If an Igbo man is threatening war just send him operation snake dance and he will dress like a woman and run away

candidtalk:
You don't get it and never will. Yorubas are millions of years ahead of you in terms of understanding politics and how to play it successfully. Politics is never as simplistically Machiavellian as you Igbos view it. For you it is about vengeful politics, sentiments and enmity. For Yorubas it is about progressive politics, pragmatism and bridge-building. We will see which comes out on top. Here , for example, you are using the decades-old master-slave appellations when Yorubas, because they develop faster than you politically, understand there is no such distinctions in todays politics.

In short you Igbos still talk like your fathers, and keep losing out, while Yorubas, like Tinubu, understand the changing nuances of politics and the need to adapt thinking and actions to remain ahead and winning. This is why Yorubas will always be ahead of you guys however you may wish frustrate our political ambition. After GEJ win in 2011, when he went on to deliberately marginalise the Yorubas at the goading of Igbos, did you see infuential Yorubas throw a tantrum? No. They decided on the strategy to remove him and followed through with it. Yorubas will always do that because ours is a solution-driven approach to politics.