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Nuezha:
YOU SEE NOW!
SAD! IGBOs and ethnocentricism - self destruct.

My brother, i shouldn't say this, I have tried all along not to say it but it's painful when you see an ingrate rubbing some shit on your face. This was a guy I gave my money(not much though) to when I saw him battling the mystery of life....

ECOTERRORS:
A faceless forum gave you oppourtunity to rant like a dog

What are you doing outside the SW, you are a bigot who will remain wretched, you opened your account with lies and falsehood to hide your filthy bigotry which your father passed down to you.

I will blame your father for his failure as a parent and how miserable you ve turned. Up

I don't have money but I've got enough to take care of myself and my staffs and also to travel to anywhere without hassles.

You need to wake up from your illusion and exorcise that spirit of hate which is destroying every living fabric in your soul.

Enjoy your stupidity while it last.

Like I said earlier on fool, I deleted him cos he is a Mr nobody and Ingrates to me.

However, I won't dignify your failures-stricken ass with response anymore.

Have a good day.

ElekeNtioba:
Its very unbecomin to rush into senseless conclusions. I'm a student of history. I dont need Achebe or Adichie to tell me what I already know. By d time u were still in diapers, i havealready conducted extensive research on my own on almost evey topic abt post-independence Nigeria. I have not even read There was a country just the reviews.

If u have have no point to counter d one I raised, there is no shame in admitting.

This your usual chest beating feature is completely unrefined and repulsive. And it's been putting you guys in trouble from time immemorial. Do you know my age? You see...

If you have truly read neutral books as regards Nigeria history and found nothing wrong about your past as an Igbo man, then I ll never blame the North for their own reactions again.

Have a nice evening.

ElekeNtioba:
Keep ur bigotry to urself. Infact choke on it. Igbos owe u no apology. Your hate will never slow down the advancement of d Igbo nation...not even an iota.

Thank you.

I now understand why it's written in British passport that your passport could be taken away from you as british Immigrants if you.........

Having seen what that Ibo guy wrote abt Yoruba Nation where he was born and brought up today, i now understand those words in British passport. No matter how many years an immigrant or his children live in foreign land, his allegiance still goes to his origin.

Chaiii!!!! White people are smart and I won't blame them again for the woes of our people in their country. God bless the Queen.

ElekeNtioba:
Very unreaonable points u raised. Now I see why ur friend would have hard time engaging in a sensible argument. I can only do my best. Its upto you to put bigotry aside and make educated points.

Here is aIgboman addressing those points u raised.

1. By what happened b4the progrom, I assume u mean Nzeogwu's coup. Then I ask, did d Igbo nation order Nzeogwu to plot a coup and murder northern leaders. If not, why then should entire Igbo nation bear responsibility for the action of 5 igbo oficers. Why is the yoruba nation not being held accountable too for the two yoruba offiers who plotted with them.

2. Aguiyi Ironsi did what he thought best for the country. How on hell should the Igbos answer for it when he never consulted us Does it mean each time an Igbo person takes action on his own volition then the rest of us shuld ber responsibilty. What kind of reasoning is this pls??

3. Pls tell me how a coaslition was to the detriment of southrn Nigeria?? Have u forgotten Akintola dethroned Awolowo in Western region to join a coalition with the north??

Your line of thought is shocking to be honest.

Having read the first paragraph of your post, i think it won't make any sense to read through your write up cos your mind is obviously polluted

I have explained what happened btw my friend and myself without adding to it.

Peace out

musing:
What history was this? Can I take a look?

Nigeria History.

The one written by Matthew M. Heaton

Even ordinary Wikipedia has solution to this mystery.

Xsolutions:
handsomenairala:Move on with your Good life...you can't REASON with these people;THEY ARE A UNREASONABLE AND WICKED PEOPLE!!! ,as long as your account of the story is true...You did nothing wrong..."LET A FOOL BE A FOOL,IT'S ALLOWED". God bless you...

My brother, I have got no reason to lie against him. I can copy all the messages for you to see. I warned him to desist from writing rubbish about my people. He was pained simply cos of this but this same guy has been sharing all sorts of rubbish abt Yorubas on his Timeline for almost one week. You see how selfish and wicked people are...

I got upset cos he grew up with us. And the funny thing was that, I didn't attack him personally but narrated a little bit of Nigeria history and where Ibos have gone wrong in the past

musing:
Did he curse your brother, your father, your sister, your mother? Granted, he has wrong and hurtful views but he probably thinks the exact same thing of you; that your views are wrong and hurtful. Whatever it is, friendships are important things and I can't see myself ever allowing such a thing to be the only reason I loose a friend.

My friend, I wrote my reservation and inbox him but to my surprise, he went on his Timeline to attack me with repulsive words indirectly but I just laughed it off and I moved on.

All I did today was telling him a bit about Nigeria history (no personal attack) but couldn't take the heat

musing:
Did he curse your brother, your father, your sister, your mother? Granted, he has wrong and hurtful views but he probably thinks the exact same thing of you; that your views are wrong and hurtful. Whatever it is, friendships are important things and I can't see myself ever allowing such a thing to be the only reason I loose a friend.

In recent months, loads of tribal words have been spoken against Igbos, Hausas and Yorubas in political and social arena but cos I have friends who are Igbos, I completely stay away from tribal topic that might offend my friends.

Facebook Timeline is like you are on live TV......

ElekeNtioba:
Your twisted account of history is d reason u pple always make baseless arguments.

1. If u had any indepth knowledge abt d holocaust and anti-semitism u'll undertand wat l'm saying. I dont have the time to start teaching u abt it. Just know the holocaust had more to do with a long history of hate than world war two.

2. Igbos never taunted any anybody. Ask anyone who lived thru dat period and they will tell u dat Igbos were the only fully integrated tribe in Nigeria. That propaganda was made up by elements in the north who wanted revenge for the killing of their revered figures. They used it to whip up sentiments among northerners. This is exactly why some Igbos were bitter abt oba's threats. Such statements from pple like him can set off a conflagration nobody can douse.

3. Biafra never declared war on anybody. Rather after her declaration of independence, Nigeria attacked. The Biafran expedition to capture Lagos came at the behest of a yoruba officer, Victor Banjo. Banjo wanted to force his pple to join the secession and bring a speedy end to the war. Before then, Ojukwu never for a day considered adding yorubaland to Biafra.

Biafran was conceived to safeguard pple of the then Eastern region and not become a rabid dog of a state.

I can only u point in d right direction. Its left for you to make use of ur brain.

It's quite sad seeing this new generation of Ibos trying so hard to rewrite the history that was known to British writers and other nations around the world.

The reason why things remained the same since 1960 is the fact that Ibos refused to see where they have gone wrong but chose to accommodate only where others had wrong them.

It won't change anything.

Please, stop reading the books writing by people like Chinua Achebe and the other lady. Read neutral books so as to see the atrocities of your progenitors.

Etfash:
OP, he says least who knows most. You didn't need to write on his timeline. I believe the best way to relate is to understand people for who they are and respect that. Not because you are weak but because you are wiser(you understand individual differences and each individual's right to be).

An average Igbo man acts like though he has the best culture and can be really arrogant when you look at him from the point of view of an average yoruba man. But why not see and accept him as he is?

An average yoruba man on the other hand pretends to be liberal, respectful and humble but, he can be really far from his actions. It is very difficult to trust a yoruba man but then know them for who they are and appreciate them for that. Play your cards well before them.

The Hausa man does not believe he shouldn't rule over you; he doesn't value his own life talk less of yours.. That again should be recognised and appreciated.

When we are armed with this knowledge, we should harness it and move forward as a country. When we need to relate with the hypocritical nations, particularly the West, the Yoruba people come in handy. When we need to exact a bit of force anywhere, the Igbos can be of great value; when national interest is to be protected at all cost, like the case of the Bakassi peninsula, the Hausas would be good for the job. The Hausas would not have released that land for any reason.

Other ethnic groups fall in between these distinct groups. It's time to begin to see the seeming limitations of each ethnic group as a strength in disguise.

Prior to that above posts, I personally sent my first message to his inbox to warn him from disrespecting and promoting lies against my people and of course my highly placed King (Oba Akiolu) and i moved on. I didn't say anything bad to him in my first response until I saw all sorts of rubbish on his Timeline against Yoruba today.

The fool got upset today cos I did the same thing to him but on his Timeline.

BuddahMonk:
Marriage in Igboland is a very serious business, its not something spontaneous two lovebirds that met inside BRT and started singing love on FB and Instagram.

Don't blame them, you guys don't know how to marry women, your too promiscuous and always think the woman must overlabour herself to feed the man.

I wouldn't even let my daughter do that anyway, its not their fault they are very caring parents who are trying to protect their children from "had I know"

Perhaps the ones I know are Osu..........

Please, go to Karu and Apo villages in Abuja to see your sisters in their stupidity and ignorance, you ll cry as an Igbo man.

ECOTERRORS:
stop acting stupid with this comment, all the things he did in SW was paid for with Nigeria money not yoruba money or free of charge.

This your statement just show that you are the real bigot, I pity your wretched soul

I ll blame this platform - Nairaland for that "word" 'wretched" and bringing someone like you to have a chat with someone you wish to become in the future.

Perhaps, just to give u a clue, I need to mention the name of d Roman catholic school i was talking about so as to show you that my school fees for 2yrs would feed your failures-accumulating family.

I can feed you and your entire poverty stricken family for as long as God ask me to.

I can assure you that if you see me one on one................. I ll stop here cos God rebukes a man with pride.

The free health care, free primary school education, the fool was born and bred in South west............. I can now see why his life turn out like that. It's a curse to abuse the land that feeds you.

If you see the speed at which I deleted and blocked the fool

djon78:
Honestly this drama during this election period has realy opened my eyes as an Igbo person to things I have overlooked b4 and I have taken some critical deciscion. One is that I will reduce my exposure to Lagos completely to zero both investments, businesswise etc. I was in the east for like a week and I was realy impressed, eg Awka is wearing new look, with highbrow area springing up and enough land to develop. These are all we leave to go and dwell in lands where we are not appreciated.
The time has come for we Igbos to forget all these running away from our place, let us go home and develop our place. This should be our agenda, if we do so in the next 10 to 20 years we will be glad we did. As for me I have made up my mind.

It's quite sad that things are turning out like this bro. I felt bad when I read your post but your fellow brothers and sisters are not helping this whole thing. I swear down, Yorubas wouldn't mind if you become a governor tomorrow but the way your people disrespect their hosts is really annoying to say the least.

If Igbos could get rid of this habit, they ll be smiling to their Bank every week with proceeds from all their businesses in the West and the North.

However, having read world history and read extensively about how Sudan and India were splited into two countries; I realise that Igbos are making the biggest mistake of their lives by investing in the West and the North.

Look around you and tell me if there is one Nigeria spirit in anybody, I presumed that your would beNo.

I advised some young Igbo youths here couple of weeks ago about how to keep their businesses in the East for the sake of their future and in case separation and

musing:
You guys are supposedly friends, why allow this issue to get in the way?

We are friends since age 10 or thereabout, but as human, your body naturally react when your blood is being attacked rudely and unfairly to your face.

Wislet:
I am Igbo. Be careful how you speak to that person. Don't bring ethnicity into this, or insult any yoruba here. Show the civility you should have acquired if you saw the four walls of a school.

You are one among millions. I love u. If we all do this, tribalism ll be history among us

jaysniggs:
You shouldn't expect any less from them op
They can't help it
Feed an Igbo man for 20 years, give chance or plan a dispute between you both and watch how they react.
You'd be surprised and wonder if that was the animal you've been living with.
I've had countless experiences right from my primary school days.
Although some who have integrated into our society have evolved.
But if in a crate of 24 eggs 21 have been tested bad wouldn't it be a waste of time to test the remaining 3?

You are right bro.

Please can you stop your recent comments on my Facebook write up. You can do that on your own facebook page please. I really don't like your comments. Thank you.

Above was his response after I told him little bit about Nigeria history which got him upset and this is a person that has been attacking the fingers that fed him.

Below was my response to him

I have nothing to do with your Timeline as long as you leave Yoruba issue out of your timeline. I think I have every right to defend my Nation anywhere either on social platform or offline.

I have got no issue with you; I am only addressing your wrong posts like every other fora.

However, if you are comfortable with my response, you could ask Facebook to block me off your timeline and that would prevent me from reading and responding to write ups.

Thanks and God bless.

ElekeNtioba:
he will also be thanking God for deleting an insensitive and unreasonable friend from his life.

Comparing Arthur Eze to oba is the height of absurdity. Oba is revered among the yoruba while Eze is a political jobber who sponsors politicians to gain relevance. Outside the cycle of his political associates, he is nobody. Why would u be likening Eze to Oba in order to white-wash Oba's despicable statements.

Do well and read Chimamanda's write-up and u will see why many Igbos are very bitter abt d Oba's statement. He was invoking the memory of the 1966 progrom and u expect the Igbos to just forgive and forget. Thats a very provocative line of thought.

Go to United States, Europe and make and just try to joke abt killing jews. Ur entire career and reputation will be finished dat same day. Attempt it in Armenia too and see. But its only in Nigeria, the Igbos are expected to forget and move on.

Go and hero-worship ur bigoted oba...u dont deserve the friendship of an Igboman.

The problem of Igbo youth today is believing in everything they read from their leaders while you expected others not to believe in what their leaders had told them too. How I will suppose to know the truth? The answer to that question lies in historical books about Nigeria history written by foreign writers.


Pls and pls, have you ever seen the same Chimamanda writing anything against Igbo? No I presumed. Igbos are too perfect you think or she thinks........... open your eyes bro and see the damage your progenitors have done to you guys. If I have four neighbours and the remaining 3 neighbours don't like me for any reason, trust me, I ll look inward and search my soul

You equally said Arthur Eze is a political jobber who should not be taken serious. Can you imagine that my friend, you ll be d one to tell whom others should take serious or not. You see what I am saying.

If Igbos are at liberty to pick Oba Akiolu words, why can't Yorubas pick on your politician's words who is a leader in his own right too

Bro, let's be honest, unbiased and impartial at all time

ElekeNtioba:
he will also be thanking God for deleting an insensitive and unreasonable friend from his life.

Comparing Arthur Eze to oba is the height of absurdity. Oba is revered among the yoruba while Eze is a political jobber who sponsors politicians to gain relevance. Outside the cycle of his political associates, he is nobody. Why would u be likening Eze to Oba in order to white-wash Oba's despicable statements.

Do well and read Chimamanda's write-up and u will see why many Igbos are very bitter abt d Oba's statement. He was invoking the memory of the 1966 progrom and u expect the Igbos to just forgive and forget. Thats a very provocative line of thought.

Go to United States, Europe and make and just try to joke abt killing jews. Ur entire career and reputation will be finished dat same day. Attempt it in Armenia too and see. But its only in Nigeria, the Igbos are expected to forget and move on.

Go and hero-worship ur bigoted oba...u dont deserve the friendship of an Igboman.

Pls, I want you to clarify a point here before the whole thread turn to tribal war.

Why is it that Igbos always deal with Issues from what was done to them as people but not what they Igbos have done to others? Life is all about Igbos bro.

If Igbos could address this, half of Igbos problem with others is half solved my friend.

I m yet to see an Igbo man that is interested in what happened prior to Pogrom in the North.

I am yet to see an Igbo man who is interested in how Northern, western and middle belt leaders were callously killed and maimed.

I m yet to see an Igbo man to address why Aguiyi Ironsi singlehandedly destroyed our well maintained regional system of government.

I m yet to see an Igbo man to address why Igbo formed political alliance with the Northern Oligarchy twice and at the detriment of southern part of the country.

My friend, if someone has done one of these to Igbo people, what would have been your view today?

@all, I only got upset not cos I am a Yoruba man but for the fact that this Igbo guy was born and brought up in one of south west cities.

As an Igbo guy, he was entitled to all what I was entitled to as a Yoruba boy while growing up in our neighbourhood. You could imagine how I felt when I read those messages on his Timeline against the same people you drank their water. I felt betrayed and disappointed in him.

Honestly speaking, I didn't even attack him initially, I only made him to see reason why Igbos should not be blowing issues out of proportion. Unfortunately, he played victim mentality first and when he realised that didn't work, he responded by warning me not to respond to his write ups again.

And I told him, as yoruba man, I won't stay here and allow you to talk about my people in that manner. Respect my people and i ll respect yours. However, if you are not comfortable with my historical response to your myopic submissions, pls don't hesitate to do the needy(delete me).

He even bagged his degree in one of the federal universities in south west, can you imagine this same guy betraying us.

We met and became friends in my first year in Secondary School but prior to this meeting, we had met at extra mural classes organised by Ghananians.

We attended one of the best Roman catholic secondary schools in Ondo state and our relationship remained the same ever since we left Secondary school to different tertiary institutions.

After so many years in different directions of life, fate led us to each other on that fateful day; we met again at Barbing Salon in London; exchanged pleasantries and phone numbers. And funny enough, we both attend the same Pentecostal Church.

However, problems started last week when the issue of Oba Akiolu was being blown out of proportion. I went on my Facebook page only to see his Timeline filled up with myopic views/biased write ups about Yorubas and distorted history. I ignored it but my conscience couldn't. I therefore decided to call his attention to what Arthur Eze said about Yorubas in the presence of Goodluck Jonathan and Obi of Onitsha and the Yoruba quiet response to the repulsive and annoying utterances. I told him that as a pastor-to-be; your Timeline has always been used for Evangelism but all of sudden, it has now been turned to a platform to bash Yorubas. I told him to desist from such habit and i moved on with my life.

Unfortunately, he chose not to address or respond to my submission/grievance. He went on his Timeline and bashed me in directly. I read his indirect message on his Timeline, I wanted to talk but I thought there was no need for it and I moved on. To my surprise today, he filled up his Timeline again about how Urhobo, Itshekiri, Ijaws etc should come together against Yorubas and I got upset.

I went on his Timeline and narrated the history of Nigeria which turned out to irritate and upset him. We exchanged words and I advised him to delete me off his friends list for life.

Sad, isn't it?

But life goes on. Thank God I m deleting bigot out of my life.