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PoliticsRe: Reno Omokri Lists 'The Wealthiest People In Nigeria In 1965' by HBB1(m): 1:34am On May 04, 2024
Shikena:
You go school so? What the heck is first richest person in Nigeria? This is why everybody loves slapping you guys around. Too dull grin grin
Na so we see am o!

Stark illiterate!
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CrimeRe: Okechukwu Osuji Extradited From Malaysia After Being Found Guilty Of Scam by HBB1(m): 1:17pm On May 03, 2024
NzeChimereze1:
Osuji and his associates, John Wamuigah and Tolulope Bodunde,
...Products of development.
CrimeRe: Okechukwu Osuji Extradited From Malaysia After Being Found Guilty Of Scam by HBB1(m): 1:01pm On May 03, 2024
Developer!
EducationRe: 2024 UTME: Tsavkegh Ishughun Scored 356 In JAMB by HBB1(m): 10:53am On May 03, 2024
PHIPEX:
Did I mention anyone or your conscience is judging you?
undecided
EducationRe: 2024 UTME: Tsavkegh Ishughun Scored 356 In JAMB by HBB1(m): 8:49am On May 03, 2024
PHIPEX:
You are happy your "rival" did not win but not that you won. Shame no dey catch you, that's witchcraft.
Did he mention anyone?

Or are you a noisemaker?
TravelRe: African Countries Use Exorbitant Charges To Frustrate Air Peace — Onyema by HBB1(m): 5:35pm On May 02, 2024
Seems this man is the Captain of Victim FC .

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CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 5:04pm On Apr 28, 2024
Shattuck:
lajuwa was a ruler in ife, he was an head messanger who seized power and became ooni, power was also seized from him, even oranmiyan seized power, meaning ife never had a stable rule, if a messenger can seize power, what does that tell you about such civilization the olopa and olokoda are not in any way related to the oba word sorry
You are not very smart.

If power was not stable, how did they build an empire?

Lajuwa was a head messenger and seized power after the king died-- big deal?
Is that alien to history?

Was power not siezed in England?
Or France?
Or Rome?
Didn't the Janissaries (a corp of ex-slaves) seize power in the Ottoman empire?

Really?!
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See argument!

Again don't defelect the question.
Ba- means hover over.
Oba means the one who rules over or hovers over.

Opa-- means staff
Olopa-- means the one who wields the staff

Okada-- means bike ( who knows where the word was borrowed from)
Olokada-- means bike man.

Since you claim Oba is a Benin word and means ruler.
Show me from Benin Language, similarities to this.

Besides looking at the genealogy of Ife Kings, there were Obas before the first Ooni.
Obatala being one.

Please try to make sense.
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 4:24pm On Apr 28, 2024
Shattuck:
go and read the history of ife kings were being over thrown by people within and outside the royal family, even strangers at some point ruled ile ife, when kings were being overthrown from ile ife military style Benin already had a kingdom with a direct line of succession now how did an ife who didn't have a stable govt or line of succession now give Benin a king, who already had a stable and organized civilization and govt
Anybody can pull out stories from his arse!

Show proof!


If you cannot, them keep quiet!


Also don't ignore what I said earlier.

What other words are similar to Oba and reflect same meaning?
I have use Olopa and Olokada as examples in Yoruba.
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 3:54pm On Apr 28, 2024
Shattuck:
what I am saying is this there is no way ife could have given Benin a king, when ife never had a real monarchy, in ancient ife kings were being over thrown like military govt style, individuals from different households at one time or the other ruled ife, oranmiyan was a Benin prince who at one time ruled ife, and oranmiyan was the father of eweka, even your Yoruba history documents this fact too now tell me is eweka a Yoruba name, if oranmiyan was a Yoruba man why did he name his son a Benin name, and how could an ife who never had a monarchy and ife where power was being seized by individuals like in the military govt had given Benin a monarchy? Go read ife history power was being seized by anyone powerful enough to seize it.
You are not making sense.
Who says Ife didn't have a Mornachy?

You keep shifting goal posts.
Who were the kings that were being overthrown?
Name them.

Ornamiyan had a child in Benin, called Owomika ( my hand can control it) who was also known as Eweka.
He left him there and went on to found other kingdoms.

As I said earlier, you are not making sense
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 3:15pm On Apr 28, 2024
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CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 2:44pm On Apr 28, 2024
43Ronin:
It's highly Dubious & hypocritical of yoruba to lay claim to beni because their king answers Oba but turn around to accuse ndigbo of laying claim to ikwerre even thought their kings bear Igwe & Eze, and their towns carry igbo names. Yoruba stay in your lane- always looking to reap from where you did not sow
Who cares what Ikwerres call themselves.
You think any Yoruba man gives a hoot?!

Don't make yourself feel too special.
Your problem is with the Ikwerres or whomever.

Besides no Yoruba man is claiming Benin.
Same way no German is claiming Britain.
We all came from somewhere.

Because the first man was from Africa, should we then claim the whole world?

We are only discussing origin here.
Lots of years have passed, so people can choose to be whomever they want to be.
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 2:39pm On Apr 28, 2024
Shattuck:
I believe the history of a bini prince who became ruler of ife, and returned you guys always assume the benin story as Benin vs Yoruba race, no it was Benin vs ife and ife was a smaller kingdom in size and number compared to the Benin kingdom. Guess you agree with my other points.
Agree with what points?
You are not making sense.

You believe something that cannot be proven.
You know what is proven.

About the Ife Kingdom, you need to read about it.
It was actually a empire and was notable in the 1200s AD.
Thinking small Ile-Ife was the whole of the Ife empire is laughable!

In all, this your analogy does not make sense.
So because Oyo empire was way larger than Ife, means Ife could not have birthed it?

Come on man!

Read, think, think!
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 2:13pm On Apr 28, 2024
Shattuck:
lies the ooni does not bear the title oba historically the title ooni,alaafin is the title not oba. 2. Oba is a title specifically used to address the ruler of Benin kingdom as it is not a Yoruba word by origin maybe borrowed before if oba truly means king alot of your kings would be address by the oba title, only the oba of lagos who is a descendant of Benin goes by that title,. 3 oba word is just like the word priest, or deacon or archbishop, it does not have generic meaning as it is specially reserved for the ruler of the Benin kingdom just like deacon is specially used in Christianity, my guess on how oba came to be part of your Yoruba lexicon is that it is a modern word probably gotten from the oba of lagos title which signifies king and you just added it to your prefix, lastly if you Agree your kingship is by rotation which justifies the historical facts of how a Benin prince at one time became the ooni of ife, ours is by lineage, and and the Benin kingdom has always been like that, now if ife and Benin never went to war and Benin was never conquered how then would you even imagine that they would just hand over their kingship to an outsider, think am now, a people that does not practice true monarchy go come give you monarchy when you already had a civilization that is passed on through blood.
Guess your history is poor.

There was true monarchy at a time.
For example, in the Oyo empire, Kings were succeded by their firstborn sons.
This was later changed to prevent the heirs murdering their fathers for a quick ascension.

As such the firstborn died with the king.

Also a senate was firmed to prevent the king from having excessive power and he could be impeached.

Also after a while, since many families in the royal lineage had tasted power over time-- through normal ascension, fratricide, or regicide, a plan to rotate power started.

Saying there was no true monarchy is hogwash.
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 2:05pm On Apr 28, 2024
Shattuck:
lies the ooni does not bear the title oba historically the title ooni,alaafin is the title not oba. 2. Oba is a title specifically used to address the ruler of Benin kingdom as it is not a Yoruba word by origin maybe borrowed before if oba truly means king alot of your kings would be address by the oba title, only the oba of lagos who is a descendant of Benin goes by that title,. 3 oba word is just like the word priest, or deacon or archbishop, it does not have generic meaning as it is specially reserved for the ruler of the Benin kingdom just like deacon is specially used in Christianity, my guess on how oba came to be part of your Yoruba lexicon is that it is a modern word probably gotten from the oba of lagos title which signifies king and you just added it to your prefix,
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You are not making sense.
There is a direct translation of Oba in Yoruba and you can see this in other words.

Oba is a generic word for King, while Ooni or Alaafin are specific.
Same way King is generic and Caesar or Pharaoh are specific.

You can usually tell where a word comes from by association.

So let's check what the Benin words for the other words I used are?

What is benin word for Policeman and Okada rider?

It should follow the pattern for King (Oba)-- owner authority.

Policeman (Olopa)-- owner of the stick

Okada ride (Olokada)-- owner of the motorcycle.

Undestand?
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 1:46pm On Apr 28, 2024
Shattuck:
lies in ancient times this was how your ooni were addressed Ooni Lafogido, Ooni Osinkola, Ooni Ogboru and Ooni Giesi, even the recent one is addressed as ooni adeyeye enitan, and to further enlighten you on how a Benin prince was at one time king of ile ife, your ife kingdom has never been ruled by one family since ancient times, even the title is rotated among families how can such a civilization which does not even practice true monarch, found the Benin kingdom with a direct ancestry? According to the history a Benin prince was exiled and he left for ife and became the ruler of ife when his father passed he sent one of his sons to become the new ruler. That is the truth even your ile ife till this day does not have a direct line of succession,which means even in ancient days it would have been easy for anyone to be ruler of ife. Which also corroborates the story of a Benin prince who become the ooni of ife.
Your rambling does not make sense.

How many Yoruba Kingdoms have a direct line of succession?
Rotation through royal families has been ongoing for centuries.

If I may ask, what is the meaning of Oba in Benin.
The Yorubas have told you it means-- overlord or ruler in their language.

Oba-- the one who lords over
Olokada-- the one who rides bikes
Olopa-- the one who holds/owns/wields the stick

You get the drift?

Ooni is a title, same is Alaafin or Soun.
They are however still Obas and are addressed as such.

The Ooni is the Oba of Ife.
The Alaafin is the Oba of Oyo.

The Oba of Bini is the Omo n'Oba ( Omo oba)
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 12:47pm On Apr 28, 2024
Danand1:
I don't think that is true, but if it is, it all pointed to because Oduduwa ruled in ife
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It is true.

...and it does not sound sensible for the heads from the source to be buried in the kindgom of the progeny/offspring.

You only want to return your body to where you are from.

Abi no be so?
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 11:56am On Apr 28, 2024
Danand1:
Is Oduduwa a Yoruba man?
Probably it was in-cooperated into Yoruba language after Oduduwa came, because if Yoruba can take a foreigner as their father, I guess there is nothing impossible.
Why were the heads of Benin kings buried in Ile-Ife?
CultureRe: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 11:40am On Apr 28, 2024
[quote author=Danand1 post=129675966][/quote]How do you say King in Yoruba?
HealthRe: Emzor Pharmaceuticals Plans $23 Million Investment In Ogun by HBB1(m): 3:55pm On Apr 27, 2024
shugamummy:
Oga with pussy odour. What he is saying is that you need to go build $23billion dollar worth of business in Igbo land to talk about reciprocating. You only reciprocate hatred among yourselves and not against any one from the East. Mention one Yoruba business man in Onitsha, I think you can count millions of business men giving your people food everyday in your Yoruba, including this one
Why site business in Igboland is the question?

What economic gain would it make me, when I can site it in Yorubaland!
That is the commercial hub in the country.

Besides which people are feeding who?
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You are selling goods and services and claim to be feesing your customers.
If they don't buy from you won't you go bankrupt?

If they ask you all to leave the South West tomorrow, will you go?

Feeding who?
Clown!
HealthRe: Emzor Pharmaceuticals Plans $23 Million Investment In Ogun by HBB1(m): 3:50pm On Apr 27, 2024
shugamummy:
That would be a sweet thing to need visa to enter Ore, unfortunately the drugs would be sold to you and your lots across Africa earning foreign currency to the owner to be repatriated to his home country. You see where your mumu starts. Mind you, you be charged based on the prevailing exchange rate with his home country which won't be funny with the Naira.
Your self aggrandization is hilarious!
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Is it only Emzor that makes medications in Nigeria?

We will only buy from the next available manufacture, while you lot eat your drugs three times daily.

Who do you think will hurt more?
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CelebritiesRe: My Family Distributes Electricity To Most Of Nigeria, Davido Claims by HBB1(m): 2:19pm On Apr 27, 2024
43Ronin:
That's why yorubas would rather die than have their own country. Their regions wealth is in the hands of a few people who have and continue to steal from nigerDelta. They cannot exist without NigerDelta unlike Igbos and hausas who are business minded
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Joker!
HealthRe: Emzor Pharmaceuticals Plans $23 Million Investment In Ogun by HBB1(m): 11:37am On Apr 27, 2024
derecho:
You see why I called you MC Oluomo?
Go and read in between the lines before responding.

Let me help you to use your brain a little.
So the average man who is on the preponderance will care about Emzor if there's something cheaper that can do the same thing?
Do you even know how paracetamol is made?I'm sure you don't know 96% of paracetamol is starch.

You just sit and type nonsense.
Go school you no gree.

The Coca-cola analogy is to help you understand that no matter how big you are, it doesn't make business sense to remain in your base.
No sensible business enjoys competition when you have a ready market with no competition.

Everything is not fighting for motor park chairmanship.
You are daft!

90% of paracetamol is starch?!
Like 90% of acetaminophen is starch?!

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Who is this slowpoke!

So if go to a shop and see an unknown brand, you will buy it?
In a country where there are fake drugs.

You are even thicker than I thought.

About Coca-cola or Emzor, you first said they were running from competition?

Now it is expansion.

You are so obtuse!

So Emzor, a known brand, ran from the East because of competition?
Even though they have a national coverage.
Will the medications still not get to the East?

Your IQ can not be high-- e sure me die!
HealthRe: Emzor Pharmaceuticals Plans $23 Million Investment In Ogun by HBB1(m): 11:14am On Apr 27, 2024
Ubanz:
Na who get Emzor?
Na de same region you are trying to ridicule.
If you talk to much I will tell her to relocate the industry to Aba where you have 24hrs electricity.
Please, ask her to quick.
We ain't begging mate.

Others are queueing to take her spot!
HealthRe: Emzor Pharmaceuticals Plans $23 Million Investment In Ogun by HBB1(m): 11:11am On Apr 27, 2024
derecho:
It's not compulsory to contribute to every discourse especially the one beyond your understanding
Well you aren't making sense?

I don't swallow shit from anybody, and you seem to be full of it.

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