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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by infofta(m): 10:40am On Apr 28
chopnaira:


Their problem. Would the council of Benin chiefs also suspend Oba of Benin too for saying he is the son of Oranmiyan and Grandson of Oduduwa in his coronation video below? He also said Oranmiyan established Obaship in Benin cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-q_F2zch8M?si=e6yfz-uGrRaJbPZE

You must understand the connection between Benin and Ile Ife.

A Bini Prince fled the kingdom of Benin and became an Oba in Ife, got married there and had children. He couldn't return to Benin kingdom rather sent one of his male sons to become an Oba in Benin when his father passed away.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Godjone(m): 10:56am On Apr 28
PressMyButton:
Four things are very clear;
1. That those individuals that visited Ooni's palace are indeed traditional functionaries of the Benin kingdom.
2. That the suspension signifies the fact that they are indeed serving royal chiefs of the Benin kingdom.
3. That the Benin kingdom are hiding some truths from the people of Benin.
4. That the suspension would not deter more people close to the palace to come out with more truths as the people truly know their own history.
absolutely correct. You are really on point

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 11:01am On Apr 28
All of you Yorubas should just stop all this nonsense, is Oduduwa even a Yoruba man, you admit a foreigner as your father and still want to cajole the people that believe he is from them to be subjected to you, 😀😀you people are clowns

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 11:10am On Apr 28
Danand1:
All of you Yorubas should just stop all this nonsense, is Oduduwa even a Yoruba man, you admit a foreigner as your father and still want to cajole the people that believe he is from them to be subjected to you, grin ;Dyou people are clowns
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Coronavirus1: 11:12am On Apr 28
1000Capacity:


No one just started existing out of nowhere. Everyone migrated from somewhere.

OK if you say Bini is from Igodomigodo, if a particular set of fierce fighters come to conquer your land and install a king, you cease to be owners of the said land.
Alexander Hamilton said, "A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one."
Igodomigodo should have fought harder. Perhaps, they truly deserve a master
Bini has a king till today is called ogieamen if conquer as you have said it will not be existing. If conquer as you have said the oba is only controlled 6 local government esan central has their king and North central too

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by olamike02: 11:15am On Apr 28
Emyzoloye5:
Kudos to the oba of Benin, the miscreants went to do eye service for the hornyy of ife
The Oba of Benin appears to be void of knowledge of where his ancestors are from. The history can't be distorted. I think it's high time he drop the appellation of Oba if he truly believe his forefathers are not Yoruba.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 11:17am On Apr 28
Goodvibes007:
The Bini are a different people Ogiamen with a language called Edoid.
However, their Oba was sired by a Yoruba man called Oranmiyan which the king himself confirmed.
Oranmiyan is not a Yoruba, he is a from oduduwa, and Oduduwa isn't a Yoruba man, he is a foreigner which the Benin believe he is from them

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 11:26am On Apr 28
[quote author=olamike02 post=129675841]
The Oba of Benin appears to be void of knowledge of where his ancestors are from. The history can't be distorted. I think it's high time he drop the appellation of Oba if he truly believe his forefathers are not Yoruba. [/quote
Oba isn't originally Yorubas, check the whole Yoruba land, is either you have, alaafin of Oyo, ooni of Ife, ataoja of osogbo etc, it's only benin and Lagos that maintains it's oba, as oba of benin and oba of Lagos, just because it's believed that Benin kingdom stretched up to Lagos in ancient time.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by YouAreNobody: 11:30am On Apr 28
1000Capacity:


Yoruba to the World. The OBA of Benin Ewuare II himself attested to the fact they are from Yoruba land.

Where does that word "Oba" come from. It's clearly Yoruba
Self-deceit. The bini kingdom is one of the oldest civilizations known to man, even before these other kingdoms that make up the Nigerian region

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 11:40am On Apr 28
[quote author=Danand1 post=129675966][/quote]


How do you say King in Yoruba?
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Konquest: 11:54am On Apr 28
ijustdey:


Five Benin traditional functionaries have been suspended from their roles for engaging in what the palace described as sacrilegious conduct against Benin customs.

The Benin Traditional Council announced their suspension in a statement signed by the Iyase of Benin, Chief Sam Igbe, on Saturday.

The statement noted that the affected functionaries visited the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi, where they falsely claimed to be emissaries of the Oba of Benin and rendered inaccurate and disjointed account of the connection between the Benin Royal Dynasty and the Ooni-ship of Ife.

PUNCH Online earlier reported that representatives from the Benin Kingdom, paid a courtesy visit to the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi, to affirm that Ile-Ife is the ancestral home of the Benin people.


In a now-viral video capturing the exchange, one of the emissaries told the Ooni that despite contrary narratives circulating online, their collective understanding has always recognised Ile-Ife as their ancestral homeland.

“We have always been told that Ife is our home,” the emissary said.

However, the Benin Traditional Council has distanced itself from the representatives whom it described as “a group of self-serving traditional functionaries from Benin.”

The statement reads, “The attention of the Benin Traditional Council has been drawn to video clips circulating on social media in which a group of self-serving traditional functionaries from Benin engaged themselves in a sacrilegious show of shame and falsehood against the Benin Custom.

In the said clip, the individuals who have been identified as Johnbull Igbinosun, Iduhonre (Ihogbe), S.E. Aigbiremwen, Efesieoghoba (Ogbelaka) and two other Ogbelaka functionaries identified as Ogbeide Osagie and Osamudiame Edo were in the presence of the Ooni of Ife, falsely claiming to be emissaries of the Omo N’ObaN’ Edo Uku Akpolokpolo, His Royal Majesty Oba Ewuare Il, Oba of Benin. These individuals not only declared themselves subjects of the Ooni but also rendered inaccurate and disjointed accounts of the connection between the Benin Royal Dynasty and the Ooni-ship of Ife.

“While the BTC does not wish to be drawn to restating the well-known connection between the two thrones of the Oba of Benin and the Ooni of Ife, the general public is urged to disregard the inaccurate accounts rendered by the ill-bred individuals named above. For the avoidance of any doubt whatsoever, the BTC advise the general public to avail themselves of the official account of the connection between the two ancient monarchies as contained in the authoritative book titled “I Remain, Sir, Your Obedient Servant” authored by His Royal Majesty, Oba Erediauwa, Oba of Benin (1979 — 2016), published by Spectrum Books/Safari Books, 2004 at pages 205-212.”

Describing the conduct of the representatives as sacrilegious, the council advised the public to steer clear of them.

“The BTC considers the conduct of these functionaries as inappropriate, sacrilegious and calculated to ridicule traditional history and to bring disrepute to Benin custom. Consequently, on the authority of the Omo N’Oba N’Edo Uku Akpolokpolo, His Royal Majesty Oba Ewuare Il, Oba of Benin the Prescribed Authority over Benin Custom, the BTC hereby announce the suspension of the individuals mentioned above from their role as Benin traditional functionaries.

The general public is advised to refrain from having anything to do with them as traditional functionaries in Benin kingdom throughout their suspension”, the statement added.


https://punchng.com/benin-traditional-council-suspends-five-chiefs-for-pledging-alliance-to-ooni/?amp
I watched the long but engaging video of the Benin Royal Palace high chiefs to the Royal Palace of the Ooni of Ife (Uhe) yesterday and there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with what the high chiefs said or did. They even affirmed the authority of the Oba of Benin while affirming the ancestral relationship between the Royal Palace of Benin and the Royal Palace of Ife through Oranmiyan who was the first Oba of Benin and the father of Oba Owomika (Oba Eweka) in that video.

So, the BTC should calm down, watch the full video and not escalate things any further.

The Ooni of Ife (Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi) will definitely step in by speaking on the phone or physically to the Oba of Benin over this and there will be a thawing of the situation, leading to the restoration of the full rights of the high chiefs by BTC.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 11:55am On Apr 28
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You need to head to the *obas* palace and understand your history. Don't confuse yourself
Is Oduduwa a Yoruba man?
HBB1:



How do you say King in Yoruba?
Probably it was in-cooperated into Yoruba language after Oduduwa came, because if Yoruba can take a foreigner as their father, I guess there is nothing impossible.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 11:56am On Apr 28
Danand1:

Is Oduduwa a Yoruba man?
Probably it was in-cooperated into Yoruba language after Oduduwa came, because if Yoruba can take a foreigner as their father, I guess there is nothing impossible.


Why were the heads of Benin kings buried in Ile-Ife?

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Coronavirus1: 11:58am On Apr 28
infofta:


You must understand the connection between Benin and Ile Ife.

A Bini Prince fled the kingdom of Benin and became an Oba in Ife, got married there and had children. He couldn't return to Benin kingdom rather sent one of his male sons to become an Oba in Benin when his father passed away.

That is the fake story from the oba Palace Evian and ogieso dynasty there is nothing like Oba ,In Igodomigodo kingdom present day Edo state oba is youroba words or Alias

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Coronavirus1: 12:04pm On Apr 28
DECLAN2015:


Exactly
It is obvious some category of person(s) were not happy
With the distortion of hx
The chief even attested to the social media nonsence
The fact is the oba is hiding the truth which he himself attested to during his coronation instead of 39nth oba he took 40 and gave a youroba king oromiyan as the first king it shows the oba family came from ile Ife

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 12:04pm On Apr 28
HBB1:



Why were the heads of Benin kings buried in Ile-Ife?

I don't think that is true, but if it is, it all pointed to because Oduduwa ruled in ife

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Konquest: 12:16pm On Apr 28
chopnaira:


Their problem. Would the council of Benin chiefs also suspend Oba of Benin too for saying he is the son of Oranmiyan and Grandson of Oduduwa in his coronation video below? He also said Oranmiyan established Obaship in Benin cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-q_F2zch8M?si=e6yfz-uGrRaJbPZE
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 12:16pm On Apr 28
seunmsg:
Suspending them won’t suspend the truth. What they said is incontrovertible and they all know it. Even though we don’t need Benin for anything, we won’t allow them to distort our history.

We thought them everything from setting up their monarchy to teaching them how to make bronzes and how to set up and manage an empire. We even gave them the name “Benin”. Without Oranmiyan, there won’t be an Oba of Benin. So, what’s there to keep denying?
una no well, trying to distort historical facts to suit your narrative, how can you teach aPeople who founded your lagos you all like to brag with anything?

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 12:23pm On Apr 28
Coronavirus1:

Bini people did not come from youroba land get it cleared its the oba family that came from ife of youroba land. Bini is from Igodomigodo Kingdom no oba but ogiemien
the story of the oba, is a bini prince who fled to ife and returned to bini, not that the bini kingdom or king is a Yoruba man. Stop distorting history.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by santaclaws: 12:32pm On Apr 28
1000Capacity:


Yoruba to the World. The OBA of Benin Ewuare II himself attested to the fact they are from Yoruba land.

Where does that word "Oba" come from. It's clearly Yoruba

Don't mind them. The history of Benin kingdom shows they were all from Yoruba land. Oba of Benin, Olu of Warri, etc, these are all breakaways from Yoruba land. Any good student of history knows the facts... Itshekiri people can't even deny their origin cos it's too obvious.

The fact that the Chiefs who went to Ooni were suspended says the following:

1. The were indeed from the palace of the Oba of Benin, whether or not they were on official duty

2. The Benins don't want the truth about their Yoruba origin to be known so as not to be subject to the Ooni or to be seen as a subset of Yoruba land.

3. They have always LIED to their people in order to have a unique identity and be seen as being different from Yorubas.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 12:36pm On Apr 28
infofta:


You must understand the connection between Benin and Ile Ife.

A Bini Prince fled the kingdom of Benin and became an Oba in Ife, got married there and had children. He couldn't return to Benin kingdom rather sent one of his male sons to become an Oba in Benin when his father passed away.

this is the simple and honest truth.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 12:38pm On Apr 28
santaclaws:


Don't mind them. The history of Benin kingdom shows they were all from Yoruba land. Oba of Benin, Olu of Warri, etc, these are all breakaways from Yoruba land. Any good student of history knows the facts... Itshekiri people can't even deny their origin cos it's too obvious.

The fact that the Chiefs who went to Ooni were suspended says a lot about Benin Kingdom:

1. The were indeed from the palace of the Oba of Benin, whether or not they were on official duty

2. The Benins don't want the truth about their Yoruba origin to be known so as not to be subject to the Ooni or to be seen as a subset of Yoruba land.

3. They have always LIED to their people in order to have a unique identity and be seen as being different from Yorubas.
the truth you need to know is this a bini prince who fled to ife was the one who returned.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Konquest: 12:38pm On Apr 28
Goodvibes007:
According to the Ogisos/Ogiamen, Oduduwa is a Yoruba man. They have zero record of anyone called Oduduwa or erakadehran.

There are also NO historical books/article that mentioned Oduduwa coming from bini. It's a recent creation from people trying to distort history.

Oduduwa is an Oke-Ora man just east of Ife. He came from an hilly side dwelling in Ora.
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by AnambraPikinSel: 12:39pm On Apr 28
Why is Omo n'oba n'edo Oku opolo feeling insecure always? It's so bad to be minority in South especially when you are from Yoruba and trying so hard to deny your roots. Every sane Nigerian know benin, not Edo are inferior Yoruba tribe. Argue with your stupid Oku opolo

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by santaclaws: 12:40pm On Apr 28
Shattuck:
the truth you need to know is this a bini prince who fled to ife was the one who returned.

And since he returned to Benin, you started giving your traditional rulers the title of "Oba" which is a Yoruba word... Right? 😏

Most of you know your history is fabricated but you won't admit the truth.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Raf4: 12:41pm On Apr 28
Leo34rf:


Oduduwa claimed he came from the the sky gods (The Benin kings aka the Ogisos aka the sky gods). Your people were confused and thought he said he came from the sky. That's why till this day you guys say Oduduwa descended from heaven, the sky. The sky gods were the Ogiso's, the Benin kings.

And Obagodo, the first skygod/Ogiso of Igodomigodo, came from Ile-Ife.
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 12:47pm On Apr 28
Danand1:

I don't think that is true, but if it is, it all pointed to because Oduduwa ruled in ife


🤣

It is true.

...and it does not sound sensible for the heads from the source to be buried in the kindgom of the progeny/offspring.

You only want to return your body to where you are from.

Abi no be so?

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 12:48pm On Apr 28
olamike02:

The Oba of Benin appears to be void of knowledge of where his ancestors are from. The history can't be distorted. I think it's high time he drop the appellation of Oba if he truly believe his forefathers are not Yoruba.
what does oba mean in Yoruba language, if oba truly represents king how come non of your ancient kingship bears the title of oba, if ife is the ancestral home as you claim and ooni is the title of the ruler of ife, why did the ooni not name the the benin king as the ooni of Benin? How come no other ancient kingdom in Yorubaland bears oba, except lagos which was founded by the Benin kingdom which the oba of lagos claim his descendants are from Benin, the Benin kingdom is one of the oldest civilization and according to history a Benin prince left the Benin kingdom to ife the same prince sent one of his son's to return to Benin and become the king after his father's demise, not that the Yoruba established kingship in Benin, btw the oba is not an original yoruba word it is a borrowed word probably inspired by the Benin kingdom, because if it means king originally the ooni of ife, alaafin of oyo, soun of Ogbomosho would have been referred to as oba of ife, oba of oyo, and Ogbomosho respectively.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 12:52pm On Apr 28
santaclaws:


And since he returned to Benin, you started giving your traditional rulers the title of "Oba" which is a Yoruba word... Right? 😏

Most of you know your history is fabricated but you won't admit the truth.
what does oba mean in Yoruba language, if oba truly represents king how come non of your ancient kingship bears the title of oba, if ife is the ancestral home as you claim and ooni is the title of the ruler of ife, why did the ooni not name the the benin king as the ooni of Benin? How come no other ancient kingdom in Yorubaland bears oba, except lagos which was founded by the Benin kingdom which the oba of lagos claim his descendants are from Benin, the Benin kingdom is one of the oldest civilization and according to history a Benin prince left the Benin kingdom to ife the same prince sent one of his son's to return to Benin and become the king after his father's demise, not that the Yoruba established kingship in Benin, btw the oba is not an original yoruba word it is a borrowed word probably inspired by the Benin kingdom, because if it means king originally the ooni of ife, alaafin of oyo, soun of Ogbomosho would have been referred to as oba of ife, oba of oyo, and Ogbomosho respectively. the oba you guys claim in your names were inspired by the Benin kingdom.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by infofta(m): 12:53pm On Apr 28
Ooni of Ife cannot go to Oba of Benin palace and sit on the throne but Oba of Beni will go to Ile Ife and the Royal seat will be vacated for him to sit. Which throne and Oba is bigger?

A kingdom that came from Benin and conquered Eko in Lagos and installed an Oba, fought the British Empire is lower than the kingdom of Ile Ife.

The son of Bini Ogiso founded the throne in Ile Ife.

Even the Oba of Benin never said they are Yoruba

People should use their brains now.

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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Raf4: 1:00pm On Apr 28
PressMyButton:
Four things are very clear;
1. That those individuals that visited Ooni's palace are indeed traditional functionaries of the Benin kingdom.
2. That the suspension signifies the fact that they are indeed serving royal chiefs of the Benin kingdom.
3. That the Benin kingdom are hiding some truths from the people of Benin.
4. That the suspension would not deter more people close to the palace to come out with more truths as the people truly know their own history.

You have just said it 100% correctly. For the fact that Bini Traditional Council quickly rushed to suspend them speaks volume. There's something they're hiding.
What those chiefs said corresponds with what is publicly known by everyone right from time immemorial. What Bini people are saying now (that Oduduwa was their lost prince) is relatively new and there is no history book or research work in support of this that’s up to 25 years old. It was a propaganda promoted by the immediate past Oba Erediauwa in his book published in 2004.

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