There's no real reason to simply dismiss the possibility of Jiraiya defeating pein.
FACT: He took down like four (cant recall properly) peins without info on their abilities.
It isn't to much to think that with prior knowlegde, he would have taken pein down. Plus he had the opportunity to escape but chose not to, he died a happy and fulfilled shinobi.
I'd say Jiraiya is an enigma in the sense that we are not sure of the abilities he possess. We sure know he has a fucktonne of jutsu and is a beast of a shinobi, but a beast to what level? we dont know. He is at least Kage level though.

edit: wait are you guys debating something else?

ibkaye:
I tried to like it but couldn't

You should try again and have patience, i to had problems garnering any interest in it until the Skypiea arc. I consider one piece to be, and by a country mile, the best anime/manga ever! and so does everybody i know.

There's a Naruto thread but the superior One Piece has non?!
Edit: just saw the one piece thread. i am pleased though the lack of activity there is just sad.

Ramseeeeey is beasting!

Is perez good?
edit:DAT Ramsey pass!

wiegraf: Religion of piss breeding harmony, i see..

Who owns nl, islamists or seun?

Seun is a puppet.

Season never start sef, Wenga and him boys don already dey vex me. Reaches for cup of water, swallows asprin.

naijababe:

Because he has been performing magic with Wigan since he took over.

Relegated wigan?

honest question, why do people rate martinez?

olivegirl:
In every generation God uses something the world desired to entertain his generation, it used to be black and white tv, big tv now internet and 3ds, may another generation, he might decide to open the sky and earth livers will view themselves from it. He knows the generation needs to write so we use fb

god uses the 3ds in what way? pokemon? NSMB?lolololol

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fredoooooo:

wetin be that , i cant believe assnal don turn to this . Celebrating fourth place as if they won the Champions league ...

we celebrating 4th position should be of no consign to you.

lol

proudlysports:

For which game?

he came off at the 86th minute mark, he was utter pig shyte, it felt like he was on the pitch for an eternity-should have been off at half time with OX allowed to play the entire game( he was more threatening).

lolcot played 90 mins, offering nothing while OX was subbed off, Wenger, why?

I've said it before and i will say it again, Richard Dawkins has a better chance of becoming pope than any blackman does!

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karma does not exist.

lol, i just love the way religion ****s with head of its adherents.

striktlymi:

Hmmm...interesting ooman!

Are you saying that Atheists don't even know what they preach?...Double wow! If Atheists don't understand what they are trying to practice, why then do you guys believe that those who understand what they do (Theists) would listen when you argue about what you know nothing about?

Do theist really understand? Besides, most atheists are from religious backgrounds.

Afam4eva:
People said something similar before Obama became president.

The vatican or whatever it is called is not a democratic system. Ps isn't the pope something like second to god on earth. Do you see them destroying centuries of mental slavery of the blackman by enstating one as second to god? Do you think it will seat well with the majority white fundy catholics?

a black man becoming pope? lol,keep dreaming! Richard Dawkins has a better chance of becoming pope

Giroud, Walcott, and Cazorla where so, so, wasteful today.We should have killed off the match by halftime. After Carls sending off, i had to put on a diaper in anticipation of me sh!tting myself due to tension. Good resilience from the team though. Sagna and Szcezeny where boss today.

ooman:

You are the problems of Africa! Have you forgotten how Mandela suffered? I guess you dont even know why he is a legend today.

false, Mandela suffered because the devil realized his prayers where too power- remember, satan is eeeeevile.........................I think you should shop around for a new sarcasm detector.

ijawkid repent before the Cassava stick deprives you of carbohydrates.

ijawkid:

Uselessness at its peak.......

epitome of uselessness.......

Affiliated:

I take offense in the fact that you did not mention the one true God but rather mentioned false Gods in its stead

There is no God but The invisible pink unicorns

false, the Cassava stick is the truest of all.

why do the rational and work hard when you can do the irrational and simply pray your problems away- the tried and tested method. Look at apartheid era South Africa, blacks did not protest, they stayed at home and PRAYED. I think heathens are the problem, they interfer with the faith-wave frequency emitted from Africa, distorting it before it gets to big daddy yaweh.

op, don't be selfish, next time you have a chat with god, ask him why does he let children born in places like somalia starve to death.why exactly do some people come into this world and all they ever get to experience is suffering and pain?