₦airaland Forum

KingCold:
He really thinks hes cooking.. hahaha..

Bruv.. you're Nigerian..people celebrate leaving that country like they're leaving prison

Thats where im leaving it..

I guess they are only in SA.I guess I am also in SA currently.

What's the population of Nigerians in ordinary Ghana alone compared to South Africa? You guys should stop this intolerant behavior which other African countries are fuming about except if you people know better than others.

Morocco is somehow cancelled in Africa, South Africa is on the verge

Abeg we need more of development news. Politicking period is now over

KingCold:
Imagine all this coming from a Nigerian?.LoOl..the jokes really write themselves

Yes, a Nigerian that have packed all of you together on one thread, as my questions are just too hard for you to answer even though they are basic questions.

It's seems it's not only unemployment issue you are having In South Africa, logical thinking and logical response to questions have been part of the basic problem. If those 2 are missing, how can you find solutions to the unemployment issue and other issues facing the country?

KingCold:
Direct this question to Tinubu, who hasnt provided roads, healthcare, electricity, ambulances, toilets..etc or is it because hes not white?

The unemployment, how did the situation get deteriorated Ike that? You guys must have been going through a lot over there

Imagine one of your sisters claiming it was the foreigners that didn't allow her to have a child.The videos is everywhere on the internet. How lazy minded can one be with such ridiculous allegations

KingCold:
Of course it wasnt, I doesn't suit your agenda.. tough luck buddy..

Make it logical to us why they neglected unemployment that made your likes to be seeing the foreigners in your wildest dreams

KingCold:
You were answered, the answers made you uncomfortable, thats not my problem

No, your answer wasn't satisfactory.

The black government couldn't have achieved that much while neglecting unemployment. Reason it logically

KingCold:
Show me the ones you built since the 60s..which are better than the ones built by Zuma

How could there be load shedding when demand was low, serving just 7% of the population?

We are discussing about progress made by the black South Africans. This is not about Nigeria. Stick with the topic of discussion without sounding incoherently like your brothers

RandDigital:
Please do it for me, and quote credible sources please. Let's talk facts, not myths (which is a past time in Nigeria).

Here's that AU-IOM report that says SA is the biggest destination for African migrants.

https://publications.iom.int/system/files/pdf/pub2023-132-r-iom-au-africa-migration-report-second-edition_0.pdf

Just logical arguments, are you aware we don't have a national identity card in Nigeria!

KingCold:
whites, whites, whites, whites, whites, whites,
No independent thought, just...


Whites, whites, whites, whites, whites.


Zuma builds two new univeristies in the Northern Cape and Mpulamalanga, but no its the work of whites, whites, whites...

Dr Ramokopa, a black engineer effectively ends load-shedding ...No its the work of
Whites, whites, whites, whites whites, whites, whites, whites, whites

The white worship mentality is too ingrained..its a pointless exercise

2 universities in how many years?

Was there load shedding during the whites? When did load shedding start in South Africa, under which government?

KingCold:
This is coming from someone who was "white people" as the silver bullet for all arguments? Domt make me laugh

You can't even be laughing as I can see frowning all over your comments. You struggled to answer basic questions about your own comments

Show us the achievements of the black South Africa government that couldn't touch on unemployment

KingCold:
I already did..
If I can add..
We've built countless hospitals
High-speed trains
Universities
Roads
Airports
Schools
Houses
Government buildings..
Hosted world cups
All the things you couldnt achieve since your independence..

But Im wasting my breath here

Comprehending something is a general problem in South Africa

We have achieved so so in Education under the blacks with 15 new universities build

We have improved our road transportation under the black government with extension of 150kn high way

Those are the simple questions I asked you.

You build this and that are mostly built by the whites. Show us, tell us what the blacks have built or the progress they have made that couldn't touch on unemployment

KingCold:
which argument did lose again?

Take a break, eat something with cold water before returning for round 2.

You are already exhausted

KingCold:
Jesus christ.. this white worship is literally getting on my nerves...

Dude.. how are government initiatives aimed to uplift black people the work of whites?

Was there a black middle class under Apartheid? Did black people have excess to electricity? Were they as literate? Did they have access to electricity? Etc...

You ask questions, when you dont like the answers or when they expose how far we have leapfrogged you and your country you quickly dismiss everything as the work of your whites.. when did white people start caring about the well-being of blacks?

List the achievements of the black South Africas that have been governing after the apartheid regime.

Or do you want me to type in Zulu?

RandDigital:
Are Ugandans and Ethiopians complaining?

My guy, where's your proof Nigeria has a worse migration crisis than SA?

Just type how many Chadians, Nigérians, Beninonse are in Nigeria. Easy google search

KingCold:
I stand by my point bruv.. you've never been anywhere near Mzansi

You are standing on K leg because that's how you lots arguments have always been.

Lying about being to Pretoria before, is there any cash out with it?

KingCold:
You attained your independence in the 60s and we attained democracy in 94 yet...
Better standards of living = Black South African
Biggest black middle class = Black South African
Literacy = Black South African
Income = Black South African
Access to education = Black South African
Access to clean water = Black South African
Access to electricity = Black South African
Access to healthcare = Black South African
Access to infrastructure = Black South African
Highest number of USD millionaires in Africa = Black South African
Higher GDP per capita = Black South Africans
I can go and on...

It wasnt like this under Apartheid so these are major strides which way you look at it..can you boast of achieving the same since your independence?

On the other thread, I said you south Africans hardly comprehend the comments you are responding to

All what you listed was laid, done by the whites. Have you quickly forgotten about the old glory on this same thread.

If the blacks that have taken over had build on the legacies if the whites, would you South Africans today be blaming unemployment crisis I. your country oñ foreigners?

The way people are mocking him heh

Almost all the contents over the weekend was about him.

He defeated someone the other day, hope he will still have the strength to fight Anthony Joshua he dared.

Portable oni skan skan

KingCold:
Bruv, you've never been anywhere near SA.. the things you say give you away..

Pretoria, Gauteng, I lived around club 44 underground club, Kfc or mc Donald wasn't far from there

RandDigital:
I'm quoting facts from AU and International Organization for Migration and they don't mention Nigeria. Instead you're a net exporter of migrants.

What supports your argument that immigration crisis in Nigeria is worse than SA's?

How can you or Au know when we don't complain about it.

As long as you a black person in Nigeria, your nationality is irrelevant

KingCold:
what have you achieved better than SA since we attained democracy? Nothing..

I asked you questions first my friend, let's be doing it one after the other

KingCold:
what exactly are you disputing here because I doubt you also know?

South Africa has a unemployment problem granted, but also has a higher GDP, GDP per capita and higher income rates than Nigeria

You could have GDP per Capita than Nigeria but the exact figure was probably manipulated because there is no effects of it in the economy hence high unemployment rate

KingCold:
What does SA having the biggest black middle class in Africa has to do with white people? Or being the earliest waking time?

How are these things "old glory"? Lol

Tell me what major achievements the blacks have achieved since they have been governing the country. Tell us their major projects

KingCold:
You have no clue what we are experiencing

I have been to your country before, so at least I have some ideas.

Now, take the way Nigerians have been prosecuted in South Africa for some years now, but the Ghanaians couldn't take 10% of it. Exactly the issue we are facing in Nigeria but we are just stubborn people which partying always get us carried away from our problems

KingCold:
its not a claim but fact..
Compare Nigeria to SA
South Africa has a unemployment problem granted, but also has a higher GDP, GDP per capita and higher income rates than Nigeria

These thing can co- exist at rhe same time

It can't except if you are manipulating figures.

How did same South Africa indebted to so many financial institutions that currently, they can't borrow anyhow?

RandDigital:
Do you have an illegal migration crisis similar to South Africa's? AU-IOM reports show SA hosts 20% of Africa's migrants, followed by CIV, Uganda and Ethiopia.

So you can't compare SA to Nigeria. Please rest your mouth and fingers on this matter.

Again, that's what you South Africans don't know. The Niger, Chad even Benin people have been flocking Nigeria for decades which the government haven't considered any solutions to them apart from partial border closure. Somehow, we always see them as part of us

What you are experiencing is not up to 30% of the immigration crisis in Nigeria

Do you have an idea about how many illegal Chinese, India, Lebanese in Nigeria? hahah they are even controlling some natural resources

IronGalaxy:
Do you actually understand what is meant by "taking our jobs"?
Consider this, a struggling South African earns R30 per hour, now comes an illegal from Malawi willing to work for R5 for the same hour, effectively pricing out the South African. This is what it means

Sometimes you people need to think logically as not rush to insult and apportion blame, when you have little understanding..

That's the point you guys are missing. You claimed you have high GDP, GDP per Capita yet struggling about basic jobs.

Can you see the flops in you guys arguments?

If I tell you the genesis of South Africa recent problem, trust me, you wouldn't believe it. It's something not been discussed by the South Africans or people generally

IronGalaxy:
hahaha.. do you know what old glory means right?

Yes , the old glory that was laid by the whites which the blacks couldn't build on

I had it before is no longer a property my friend

DrMB:
In addition to the neo-colonialism system, you have now identified the presidency, the constitution, and the legislature as part of the focus. That is the entire edifice.
Which confirms that the solution requires leaders, executive and legislative, brave enough to confront the whole system simultaneously.
That coalition of courage is yet to emerge on the Nigerian political scene.

But you are now asking exactly the right questions and that is where the conversation must stay.
We must all be willing to confront the problem from its very foundation, that is the sole purpose of this analysis.

This is not about APC, Obi, or any single politician. It is about Nigeria.
Because the moment Nigerians collectively understand the root of the extraction architecture operating against them, they can move forward as a people, elect with clarity, demand with precision, and build with intention.
Awareness of the root is where genuine liberation begins.

Are the electorates aware of all what we have been discussing about since? Not even the opposition supporters

RandDigital:
It's mind boggling.

Same as with this helinues who wants to claim Nigerians don't protest on weekdays because they're the most productive people on earth and there are no unemployed people in japageria.

The protest in Nigeria, what have they always been about? Are they about foreigners should leave our country because they are taking our jobs?

IronGalaxy:
Yet all metrics point out South Africans being more productive than you, ever thought about that?
Bigger GDP
Bigger GDP per capita
Biggest black middle class in Africa..
The earliest waking time in the world

Keep calling us "lazy" nothing on the ground supports that myth

Those are the old glory which I have been talking about..All what you listed can't be really there , working yet some lazy ass still one to be blaming others for their own woes

IronGalaxy:
Their obsession with the word "lazy" is mind-boggling..its as if is the first English word they learn at school

Which productive people protest on Monday claiming some imaginary foreigners are taking their jobs?

DrMB:
You've just made the entire argument for all Nigerians without realising it.
Yes! Nigeria is still operating on a constitution shaped by the same neo-colonial architecture that designed the extraction system. That is precisely the point. 1. The constitution,
2. the IMF conditions,
3. the WTO trade rules,
4. the offshore financial platforms,
5. the structural dependency, they are all organs of the same system.
You have just named another one.

So the question becomes even sharper: which Nigerian leader is brave enough to lead a genuine constitutional overhaul that removes the neo-colonial fingerprints from Nigeria's governance foundation?
Not tinker around the edges. Not work within it politely.
Confront it directly.
Because working within a constitution designed to serve foreign interests while calling it governance is not leadership, it is administration of someone else's agenda.

Lumumba, Sankara and Gaddafi didn't work within the systems handed to them. They dismantled them.
That is precisely why they were removed. You have not weakened the argument, you have deepened it.
Every institution mentioned, the constitution, the financial system, the trade rules, confirms that the neo-colonial architecture runs deeper than any single election or politician.
Which makes the question of who will confront the entire edifice honestly not less urgent, but more urgent than ever.
That person is yet to appear on the Nigerian political scene.

You are mixing things together. It's not the duty of the president to change the constitution, that's the duty of the lawmakers.

Before the last year election, I shouted on top of my voice that it's wrong to be channeling all our energy on the presidency as the lawmakers will play a major role in changing some of the old constitution that are obsolete, except if I will have a meaningful conversation about it today.

There are so many issues which I have raised even regarding the new electoral law, such discussion dont make any sense to the opposition.

Tell Nigerians to elect credible people to represent their constituency , a sound lawmakers will reject any policies that won't favour the masses, boldly against unnecessary borrowing