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OLAADEGBU:
You better join forces with those calling President Trump’s bluff like the chap below.



“Imagine a deranged & sociopathic meglomaniac & tyrant, a recalcitrant and unrepentant schoolyard and dockside bully and a cheap and shameless godless scumbag like @realDonaldTrump threatening our country with violence, military action and invasion. What a nerve!”

You ended up saying nothing. Even if Trump want to send his troop to Nigeria, how would they separate christian from Muslim?

Truths9ja:
when trump government start the response on field battle in Nigeria, you will run from this app. You are only looking for engagement and views here. Trump will start this week cos' all what trump said on the truths social will start materialising with actions this week. Keep on displaying your ignorance here

What would be his justification, you can help him by telling us where precisely in Nigeria is christian persecution taking place

It's all noise because they are yet to tell us where precisely Christian persecution is happening in Nigeria.

Nigeria is not Iran where a fake justification of weapon of destruction was used

If you want to miss the privilege of reading my comments, just attack my opinion

We have been asking you people to precisely tell us where christian persecution is happening in Nigeria, all we have been reading is about Deborah's case that happened years back

Why should the presidency waste their time in responding to a joker man Trump. Is it today he has been dramatic?

destinychildolu:
Do you want me to show you BAT and Reno's tweet before you believe?

This is not about whataboutism or copy copy, if you have the intellectual capacity, contribute to the topic without derailing

Thank you

thesolutions:
You mean to tell me that Gumi's bandits did not identify with any religion and gumi and his compatriots negotiating for the bandits are only doing so to save Nigerians from the bandits? Does that mean the bandits as acclaimed are stronger than the Nigerian armed forces that negotiating with them and paying them is what is best for the giant of Africa?
Which ever it is you believe, it is enough reason to invite people that believe the bandits are not that powerful to hold people to ransom.
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The bandits, which faith have been their victims most? You guys including Us are just struggling to force this narration on us. The bandits are pure criminals, that they shout Allahu Akbar before attacking don't mean they are kidnapping people because of religion

Morenikeji090:
Definitely I won’t lie I will say the truth… Muslim is more affected. but northern part have two side story 1st part is insecurity and 2nd part is Sharia law which is affecting most of the CHRISTAIN coz they are not Muslim….northern need to drop that mentality of over religious to be able to live in peace with other who are not their faith believers… coz humanity is over any religion..

Those who are funding those criminals knew this is not about religious matter but power, resources and political superiority.

Most of the killings in North is either to grab other people's land or to reduce opponent stronghold. Those behind it, why are they causing havoc to their own land?

Morenikeji090:
That’s one of many why American is sound disrespectful to Nigeria government now…. See we should not sound In religious ways but let’s use humanity and reason there is CHRISTAIN genocide in northern Nigeria…. See when dat wicked man former kaduna governor called Erufia was In power see what he did to CHRISTAIN in kaduna south…. Baba I’m a Muslim but I won’t support bad…. I love and value humanity more than any religion be you Muslim or CHRISTAIN…

With the killings in North for years now, which faith is most affected, be sincere with yourself

Zionmdde:
Don't shout ooo when something lands on your smooth roof oo. Leave faceless forum, join Bashir on Twitter to rant

I love the way the so called enemies of Nigeria are have drawn international attention to what is happening in Nigeria

This one doesn't even care about his brothers in kwara state

See reasoning of those we have been wasting our time to engage on this forum for years

Morenikeji090:
Stop your lies there is christain genocide in Nigeria northerner region. If I may ask you what about that young girl they burn and killing in the northern part what can we call that…?? More so I’m a Muslim but I won’t support nonsense…. I value humanity over religion

Why should you be using one instance to argue this? When did the burning happen?

Yes, I repeat, there is nothing Trump or USA can do. Not even any meaningful sanctioning. And he can never send US troops to Nigeria without our government agreeing.

Just as usual social media mouth running. We have been asking those who believe that Nigeria christians are being persecuted to tell us how they are being persecuted and where is that happening in Nigeria, na only Deborah long blasphemy instant they have been given. Southern Kaduna that might be used as an excuse, things are going smoothly under this government

Is there killing in Nigeria, yes
Is any faith targeted with the killings? Capital NO

There is nothing Trump can do, this not former Nigeria, old Nigeria president with no balls

Nigeria as a country is known to be mindful of themselves even with our neighbors, stubborn head Trump who has been fighting others can never tell us what to do

Eboofa:
The US governement is aware of the not so well hidden false flag operations the Nigerian governement security organisations have been conducting in the southeast ...from the prison break in owerri in 2021 , to the insertion of asari dokubo's special forces into imo state and Anambra state....it has been a well oiled counter insurgency against govt sponsored 5th columnists in ESN and IPOB, they hate IPOB because the group had the effrontery to call out fulani expansionism aided by yoruba corrupt press and xtian pastopreneurs parading as men of god....everyone of them is on the take in nigeria!

Hope they are also aware about the activities of the likes of gentle d yahoo operating in South East for years sha

Ttalk:
Southern Muslim are their potential victim unless the ones who subscribe to their doctrine and belief.

So don't dabble to subject you cant defend.

I can see you conveniently dodge my questions above, how I wish you can sincerely answer them and you will understand what's actually going on without anyone guiding you.

Hisbah law is for the poor northerners not for their politicians or their elites.

Those who are causing unrest in North are only using religion to cover face. Land grabbing, old communal clash, politicians reducing the strong hold of their opponents, those are some of the cause of the unrest in North and other part of the country.

Both the churches and the mosque, we have been having them in their numbers for years now in Nigeria, abeg who have they been preaching to that the rate of crime is increasing in the country

Ttalk:
Stop saying what you don't know, let the Southerners that have lived in the North tell you the inner ideology of what you will never know as an outsider.

Muslim has different meaning to a Jihadists and outsiders

The Muslim they kill are only people who are obstacle to the course of their jihad. Any imam they kill doesn't believe in their doctrine, every Muslim must either directly support or tacticslly support their course to remain safe.

Stop saying the Jihadist also kill Muslim because the definition of a Muslim to them is not same as the Muslim we know

Are there no Muslim in Southern Nigeria? Do they share that beliefs you are talking about with some Muslim northerners?

Ttalk:
What do you call what happened and still happening in Southern Kaduna?

Have you lived in the north before especially in those volatile areas.

Why did Kabiru Sokoto chooses St Theresa Church to bomb and not Central Mosque?

Is there any Moslem lady in the history of Nigeria that was killed the way Deborah was gruesomely murdered.

Why has Sultan not been able to condemn the terrorism going on?

Why is it when issue of terrorism and killing of the the Christians is raised the response has always been attack on the messenger and excuses that Muslims too are being killed?

Why has Sharia law not been able to arrest and prosecute just 1 terrorist but same court has amputate millions of northerner in the name of filmy sin

The issue in North is no longer about religion beliefs but political beliefs. We have same Muslim in Southern Nigeria who have been conducting themselves. It's the northern elites, politicians killing their own people to score cheap points.

All those bandits are errand boys as they can't afford the ammunition they are using and also the training. They are being funded by some criminals using their position to bypass the security operatives

advanceDNA:
U are not keeping tabs...but u are calling those keeping tabs lairs.....is that not witchcraft...

How many times have u called out these deaths here on nairaland ....all u do is support wateva ur APC govt says.......even for the so called Muslims u claim it also happen to, have u ever called out the death of ur fellow Muslims.??
U don't care about ur fellow Muslims...but want those who care about Christian death not to talk...baba shame on you

Tell us about how many blasphemy killing you have read about so far this year in Nigeria.

Tell us in which area the christian persecution is happening, at least back your arguments with something. Stop going off the discussion by bringing Apc, Pdp. We are discussing this as Nigerians

Ttalk:
This is not the time to start preaching about logic on US decision. This is about time to address the terrorism and not about narration of expediency, logic, locus standi or whatever narration to divert attention from the main issue
It is high time the FG take decisive action against the perpetual killings of the Christian in the north.

The insurrection of Jihadists in the form of Boko Haram, ISWAP, Bandits and Kidnappers are out on one mission to destroy anyone who doesn't practice their faith and take their land.

Their targets are

The Christians

The indigene either Christians or Muslims who doesn't allow them perpetuate their evil agenda

The Muslim individual or community who is perceived to disagree with their doctrine and actions

Every other faith who doesn't agree with them.


Have you ever seen Sultan publicly condemn any attack?
Have you seen any Muslim political leader condemn their actions publicly?
How many BH, Bandit have the Sharia law caught and prosecuted?

It is high time the world intervene and expose al the people who directly and inderectly support these terrorist.

Killing must stop or outright dissolution of Nigeria through referendum should take place.

The blood of millions of innocent lives including Deborah is crying for justice.

There is no excuse from the government. Enough

Killings of Christian, Muslim, traditionalist or any individual is not justifiable in any way. My point is there is no systematic killing of Christians in Nigeria.

We have all been shifting the blame on the government, Benue state waited for FG's visit to tell the communities fighting decades old communal clash to stop. Same scenario happening in North.

The political leaders, elites and the community affected in most especially in North are not ready to be sincere about the back and forth killings in their respective areas

advanceDNA:
It cannot be persecution and genocide to you because over time, y'all got use to all the killings and deaths like it's nothing, some of u make politics out of it..

After all.... out of over 250million pple, 2000 deaths here and there, every week or month is not even up to 1 % ........y'all have never kept tabs because the truth is few muslims are affected...but the people keeping tabs on the side of the christians........u call them liars ..

.your brothers in the north consider these bokoharam, iswaps and bandits their brothers..Garbage said it on national TV..

,....when they are caught, y'all call the repentant terrorist, absorb some in the army and integrate others back into the society.....so yeah.. you Muslims are not really affected that much....because if you were..you won't do that
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For weeks...pple were dying in Benue and Jos like flies y'all pretend like it's a normal issue.............Every week, ur blood thirsty brothers enter churches kidnap priests and kill them........burn their churches...nearly all Christian dominated areas in the north have been ransacked ...

But because it's in the north, and some Muslims who also don't want the Islamic violence are also caught in the cross fires u want to pretend it's a general issue....

Baba...it is not .......even if it is general..is it not time we will call this issue out....is it until we are all running to Ghana as refugees....u and your wicked leaders have become so used to death,....shame on you baba....shame on you

Why are you guys in defense of the claim writing long epistle without answering the question which is the basis of this thread.

Who is killing the christians in Nigeria? Which part of the country is that systematic killing of the christians is taking place. Southern Kaduna is not longer in such category

sreamsense:
Is that all? Is that the illogicality of Trump you want to prove? Nobody is here denying a society that is totally crime free including USA. Those bad elements killings in the southern part of Nigeria are not killing for Jesus; they are not shouting Jesus Akbar before they kill. Killing in south part of Nigeria is not daily occurrence, it gets long breaks, the southern part violence don't transport themselves to another northern town or western town to perpetrate killing.

The only killing that crossed border from north to the south was carried out by the same Islamic militant in bombing of church in Owo. The criminality in the north are mostly based on religion, moving from state to state, town to town. Bandits keep multiplying moving from state to state in the north which remains the only attribute of Islamic terrorists. Bandits are only Muslim products, no single christian is among them.

Evidences have been shared with how some shout Allah akbar, used terrorist insignia. Fullani herdsmen are also Muslim product only, no christian is among them, they target christian states, churches, christians with evidences of land hijacked and renamed in some communities that were formerly know to be christian territory. Islamic terrorists never reduce, they keep emerging and forming different groups moving from cities to cities, town to towns, they are soldiers of Allah and mainly Muslim products, no single christian is among them.

And recruitment is easy for all of them because many Muslims marry four wives in poverty, and their children serve as raw materials for recruitment into banditry, Islamic terrorism and violent fullani herdsmen. How should christians be the major receiver of criminality created by Muslims for muslims? They kill christian and Muslim also ...is an irritating statement. How should it be the right of a christian to suffer even more than the Muslims tht created the problem? The worst part of it is that, the Quran supported it and these category of soldiers of Allah are using their tricks under different brands to push agenda of islam.

No single chapter or verse encourage in the Quran to love unbeliver or even your enemies, everything is about hate Jews and christians. Kill unbeliver. Peaceful Muslims are hypocrites, they laugh at plight of christian on the secret when church is burnt or a christian is killed, they fill happy inside them, and cole up with propagandas to defend for their brothers. Peaceful Muslim leaders should come with a working solution to resolve this, christians don't create this problem, you create them; so christians shouldn't suffer, get killed or beheaded for Islamic atrocities if they fail to solve these problems

If the Muslim are the most affected with the insecurity in North, abeg who is killing the christians in Southern part of Nigeria?

You wrote that long epistle without answering the question above

Softmirror:
Trump used such sentiment about Islamic Terrorism in the United States to win his first election of which statistics showed that death in the United States from gun violence by American citizens far out numbers any kind of death from the sentiment he was peddling. Trump was almost assassinated pro to his election by an American, his friend Charlie Kirk went down by an American. It tells you that something is foundamentally wrong the American President even with the American people.

Bro so Hamas won the election in the Gaza area meaning they are the one in charge of government. That was since 2007. This same USA have been sending aids to the Gaza government worth million of dollars yearly. Who funded Oct 7 attack if not USA. You are sending direct aids to the person you claimed he's a terrorist

Fenrir:
Norway has done nothing to Nigeria — I’m not here as any agent of my country. I served in Afghanistan for nearly twelve years, fighting for the rights and freedoms of Christians there. I am Norwegian, and I once served as a Royal Marine attached to British units — that’s not boast, it’s context: Scandinavians do not take kindly to being bullied or written off.

You asked how Trump and others came to claim Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted. I don’t agree with wild headlines or careless[b] accusations that aren’t grounded in facts. If someone points to persecution, show us the evidence, the dates, the perpetrators — don’t build a case from rhetoric. That is how false narratives spread.

And if you think the United States can bully its way into territories, remember when President Trump floated buying Greenland — the idea was met with firm rejection from Denmark and Greenland, and it became an international embarrassment for the U.S. administration. He backed down amid clear pushback.
The Guardian
+1

I spent six months working in a cultural training role trying to help build capacity for your security forces. I saw problems up close: poor morale, lack of discipline, and too many who would rather leave than hold a line. That is not a slight — it’s an observation. If a country will not defend itself, it will be defended by others only at great cost and little trust.

Let no one label me the same as Trump. I wouldn’t trade my principles for headlines. I’d fight for Africa over my home in Europe any day — and I mean that. If you want a defender, ask honestly; if you want scapegoats and slogans, you’ll get noise, not justice.

We are not interested about your background, stay with the topic of discussion.

Can you outright say anything disagreeable about that particular belief system

The emboldened in your epistle and the quote above are not aligning. Which belief are you referring to?

Softmirror:
Don't waste your time on that dude. When you see fake people you sef suppose don know.

Bro before this sanctioning, I have repeatedly asked those questions about to tho who believed christians are being persecuted in Nigeria, it's the same way that person has been shifting from the narration.

At least they should be able to prove what they believe

The irony of the general killings in Nigeria irrespective of faith or location, the gun runners, arm dealers are mostly from the Southern part of the country which majority of them are Christians.

Should we say generally the christians are killing Nigerians because without their continue supplying of arms and ammunition, the killings in the country would have reduced

Fenrir:
Can you outright say anything disagreeable about that particular belief system the way i do as an atheist to Christians on this website? Thats your answer

The belief system by some Muslim is not restricted to Nigeria, Nigerians. At least in Southern part of the country, such belief is not existing.

Where such belief is still existing in Nigeria is North and it's the same Muslim that are mostly affected with the killings so far.

Even though you couldn't answer basic questions to lay the foundation of your arguments, how did you , Trump and Us government arrive at Christians in Nigeria being persecuted/targeted?

Fenrir:
One belief system has always ruled this country — the same group I once fought against in Afghanistan. They make up about 52% of the population, while Christians are around 46%, and the rest follow traditional beliefs. But tell me honestly, has there ever been an openly Christian president in this nation?

That's not the question I asked , how are the christians in Nigeria being persecuted/targeted? Who are the people targeting them and in which part of the country are their being targeted

Fenrir:
Peace, my friend. I hear your words, and I respect the fire behind them. But allow me to speak as one who has seen much of this wide world — a Norwegian by birth, once a Royal Marine, now a guest in your great land, and proud to call it home.

You ask who will defend the Christians? Then petition your leaders to grant me the right — and I’ll don the armor of a hero. No mask, mind you, for I’d not hide a face this spectacular! I’d stand for what is just and true, and give my blood gladly for this beautiful land.

Until that day, I’ll wield my words as my sword — with honor, humor, and heart. And should the call of justice sound, you’ll find me ready, not as a stranger, but as a brother.

Please make it logical to us how Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted/targeted in any part of Nigeria. We are here to learn

motymop:
I agree with you, they really don't care about Christians rather they want to create more trouble.

Aren't they the ones sponsoring boko haram.

By the way, I wonder why people are happy, this list means nothing.

Saudi arabia is on the list and many other countries.

If they sanction Nigeria, we will look elsewhere

That's just it. Our credit score amongnst the financial institutions globally have been boosted under this administration.

Even though the sanctioning might hard to the hardship which those who are celebrating this will also be served inside, we shall get over it

motymop:
I agree with you, they really don't care about Christians rather they want to create more trouble.

Aren't they the ones sponsoring boko haram

It's even the Muslim most especially from North supposed to be crying about the targeted killing as they are the most affected. Shia group alone have lost so many of their members to our security operatives not to talk about some steady attack on mosque, one just happened like 2 days ago.

Who is counting the Muslim killing scores in Nigeria?

Arsenal is on fire this season. They need goals for their opposition to chase not only the points