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TAO11:
A bush meat is caught feeling insecure.

You’ve not earned my attention yet. Soon you will cry to the mods again.

BabaRamota1980:
Nri is a town. This is told to you by same person, Basden, who mentioned coronation of kings.
How could you accept his account of coronation but not that of Nri, a small town?

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Tao11

TAO11:
The advertisement of ignorance going on here is amazing.

“Igbo” means “bush”/“forest” in Yoruba language. I guess your people are now bush-meat right?? Lol.

For the sake of killing this particular ignorance being pumped in here, the Igbo people referred to here are a Yoruba-subgroup still occupying the Ilaje-Ese-Odo area till date.

Their traditional accounts till date still clearly recall their version of the events at Ile-Ife before their emigration.

For example, they have their side of the story to the “Moremi/Igbo” episode and why they’ve refused to honor and deify Moremi.

TAO11:
The advertisement of ignorance going on here is amazing.

“Igbo” means “bush”/“forest” in Yoruba language. I guess your people are now bush-meat right?? Lol.

For the sake of killing this particular ignorance being pumped in here, the Igbo people referred to here are a Yoruba-subgroup still occupying the Ilaje-Ese-Odo area till date.

Their traditional accounts till date still clearly recall their version of the events at Ile-Ife before their emigration.

For example, they have their side of the story to the “Moremi/Igbo” episode and why they’ve refused to honor and deify Moremi.

TAO11:
Just so everyone know, if you know you got no thick skin for flogging, don’t even begin to engage me.

You may bore me if you show symptoms of being a snow flake by running to the mods for help with tears flowing down your face while flogging is ongoing.

Just so y’all know.

I emphatically decimated your claim on Ife by showing how a group of Igbos settled the lands first(probably up to a millennia before the first yoruba)

TAO11:
and recently for Igbos.

Except you are now scared to shits of mentioning the igbos

BabaRamota1980:
I pity your neighbors that do not know their history, you are exploiting their lack of knowledge. Yoruba will expose you to them.

Listen to what Basden said about Nri.

"Nri was a small town".
Headquarters of a priestly cult and the priests travelled around coronating kings in Igbo country.




Nri is not the cult. Nri is not a progenitor. Nri is not a king. Nri is just a small town. Inside the Nri town lived priests - mburuichi - who traveled around igno country coronating kings.

This priesthood itself is not Igbo origin. It came from a foreignland.

Basden went on to say, in Onitsha, when asked where they came from they pointed to the East.

Where is the East of Onitsha they pointed to?


Small small Basden go expose una. I go wake am up to talk about his stay among the primitive Ibo.

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Tao11

gwafaeziokwu:


She/he has found a new bea in you. Hellraiser77 is not romantic at all.

gwafaeziokwu:


She/he is hurt and we have not even reached Malachi. Keep away from Igbo thread they will not hear.

BabaRamota1980:
Nothing you have showed in art or research has so far authenticated Igbo to the products. What is your authenticity with these works.

Do this, list Nri kings that evolved your society and what contributions they added. Prove your connection to these arts.

Babaramota I've searched Far and wide, No solution insight for you

gwafaeziokwu:


The love of your life is not mentioning me again. Have I been too harsh?

adadike:
Eziokwu Nwanem. You are really doing a good job by educating their coconut heads. Dalu nna

BabaRamota1980:
Start by refuting Benin and Igala first. Ife is far above your league.

We are going to read from GT Basden when I get time. He said many things about Igbo, including Nri. Now, why is Basden's account important? It is important because he lived among you and witnessed your primitiveness. In the age whiteman transitioned you from primitive into civilized society one of them lived with you and recorded who you were. You can deceive everybody but you cannot deceive GT Basden.

When I get your time, Nairaland will hear from Basden, and it will go into records.

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Tao11

adadike:
obatala can also mean ' he who comes or he is back' a kind of reincarnation even

BabaRamota1980:
When i get time to focus on this thread Igbo will cry

TAO11:
Thank you for having admitting blatantly that you have nothing to say to challenge the conclusions of historical scholarship (including Professor Shaw’s himself who did the earlier work on Igbo-Ukwu) which have come to show that the earlier dates associated with the Igbo-Ukwu artifacts were erroneously exaggerated.

If you care to see his conclusion (and reference to the peer-reviewed journal article), then check HERE

Otherwise, it is absolutely pointless to continue to engage your obviously unlearned, emotional wishful, personal thoughts.

Drink some water, and have a great day.

UdechiHD:
In Nigeria after the Nok, Igbo Ukwu comes next. We've even had more archeological finding in other Igbos areas such as Nsukka, Okigwe etc.

BabaRamota1980:
Eri, fatjer of Nri is a son of Igala. The Igalas have proven this.

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Tao11

TAO11:
Awesome!

This again corroborates my earlier comment about our well-known Yoruba traditional account which states that the first home for all (from where dispersion took place for the different ethno-linguistic groups[b] was in a Yoruba center called [b]Ife-Ooyelgbo situated further in the interior close to a very large body of water.

Today, this ancient Yoruba traditional account has been corroborated by both linguistics, archaeology, and ethnography — as I have shown here.

In other words, some region around the Niger-Benue confluence (and further up the middle Niger) is the point of dispersal of all these people (i.e. the different Yoruba subgroups, the different Edo subgroups, the different Igbo subgroups, et al.) as distinct ethno-linguistic groups and subgroups.

Ile-Ife, once settled after this dispersal, thus emerged as the first super power and first group/sub-group to attain civilization and fluorescence in the Guinea forest.

Kingdom-founding migrations (aka monarchy-establishing groups) thus began to roll-out from Ile-Ife to the other groups (including the Edos and the Igbos) as well as the other Yoruba sub-groups of the region.

It is to this kingdom-founding migrations from Ife that many sun-groups in today’s southern Nigeria (and other people) refer when the adduce their traditional account to claim Ile-Ife as the origin for their kingdom.

To quote the words of Robin Horton in his “Ancient Ife”:

“Phase 1. (500B.C. - 900 A.D.) — From a nucleus somewhere in the are of the Niger-Benue Confluence, proto-Yoruba speakers fanned out into the lands to the west and south-west. Among the migrants were the ancestors of the people of Ife. ••• .

Phase 2. (900 A.D. - 1450 A.D.) — Ife emerged as a power in the region after the main wave of Yoruba expansion and cultural differentiation. ••• The result was a large and prosperous population, a powerful army, and a magnificent material culture. Once the city had become a power in the region, its rulers embarked on the subjugation of commercially important outlying areas, sending royal princes to take charge of their administration.

Phase 3. (1450 AD. - 1650 AD.) — Two outlying provincial centers, Benin and Oyo, developed new trade routes linking seaboard, forest and savannah. ••• These commercial and military development tipped the balance wealth and power away from Ife and toward Benin and Oyo. Both of them later became independent of Ife. •••”

—— pages 140-141.

cc: googi, gomojam, LegendHero, MiorityOpinion, MetaPhysical.

googi:
BabaRamota, could I use your last post for future discussion?

This is what we failed to do and they got away with fabrications to pump up their ego.

Hell or Weything You Call Yourself,

You people mumu no be small. So OBA means farm abi na barn or store.

So you crowned barm or store as Oba! You better put your broken record on again. You are not making sense to yourself.

BabaRamota1980:
Abstract

Dedicated to Eze Nri, Attah of Obosi, Asagba of Asaba and Olu of Warri Igala may not be related to everyone in southeast Nigeria, especially those of Aro and/or Jewish origin but Igala is related to Nri people considering some related cultures between us. Although, some South-easterners believe that Eri/Eli was the father of all Igbo people, while some disagree with that. But Eri, as a person, how was he related to Igala if actually he was? According to some Igbo historians, Atta, one of the sons of Eri was the founder of Igala people. But Igala was not founded by one person as it is popular that Igala settled in Wukari-Taraba state after coming from Egypt through Borno … and later migrated from Wukari to Idah. In addition, Attah is a tittle in Igala land not a person as they said, and it means father. So, Attah Igala means Father of Igala. Thus, this version does not have any truth. Another version said that Eri migrated from Igala area to Aguleri and later married an Igala wife who begot a son called Onoja Oboli, and that the Onoja later founded Igala. This is so cyclic and very contradictory. If Eri migrated from Igala which was already in existence before even marrying his wife or getting a son, how come the same Igala will be founded by Onoja? This also does not hold water. The third version said that Eri came from heaven with his wife and settled near Omabala river. He later got a child called Idah who founded Igala. Again, this is very strange to many popular world historians as Idah was just a location and not the name of person. Idah was from Ona Imuda,meaning the road has ended because the road or path they were following during their (Igala people) migration ended at the bank of river Niger and they Igala people had to settle down there. Till date, no man or ruler or Attah Igala among the royal clan had/has Idah as his name. This makes this version also false. There is another version which is still different. These inconsistence versions by Igbo historians could not provide provable facts. However, all of them point to one direction, and that is; Eri or Igbo was the father of Igala people. But considering some similar cultures between Eri people and Igala, and which are not common btw Eri and other Igbo towns, some historians believed that Eri was Igala who left Idah



https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337413647_ERI_MIGRATED_FROM_IGALA



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Tao11

gomojam:
YOUR madam, Tao11, WILL SOON ARRIVE TO refine you with fire. You must learn good values from a Yoruba lady like her.

BabaRamota1980:
I doubt Igbo Ukwu truly belongs to Igbo stock.

gomojam:
No worry, enjoy your break until she returns to panel beat your doggy brain. Then you shall continue the barking.

gomojam:
MUMU check my post history. F***k who? Abi a lady flogged and babysit u here like she was your nanny. Keep suffering in pretension but I understand, you need to cover your shame through self hype. Sorry.

gomojam:
See what you have been reduced to by a lady, a bingo giving a faint bark due to exhaustion. Tao11 is a lady equal to 1000 Igbo men.

gomojam:
See what you have been reduced to by a lady, a bingo giving a faint bark due to exhaustion. Tao11 is a lady equal to 1000 Igbo men.

gwafaeziokwu:


I didn't mean to be this harsh. You've been reeling in sorrow. I understand the need to redeem yourself to your compatriots after the kind of hiding you received on this thread. You really need to shed off that pent up emotion through tears.

Now you are sounding childish and incoherent.

Advise; Next time you stumble on a thread that concern Igbos stay clear. Edo guys might use nails to scratch you, we Igbos prefer knives.

gwafaeziokwu:


You have been crying non stop for two days now. What happened? I know you didn't expect how everything turned out. How it became glaring to you that your "cradle of civilization " was once controlled by Igbos led by Obatala until your fathers left Kogi area. That your Oduduwa didn't break his back as he flew down from heaven afterall without parachutes

That almost all your festivals have lasting vestiges of Igbo themes. That you turned an Igbo man into a god that you worshipped till today. .

That your Aje festival is a regret gathering as Yorubas rue their rejection of peace, progress, equality, justice and freedom represented by Igbos through Obatala. Instead followed wars, wars and more wars which Oduduwa monarchy brought to Yorubas.



Finally, the killer. There is no iota of Yoruba tradition anywhere in Igboland. We don't even know who your gods were. While Igbo themes abound everywhere in Ife including your ooni palaces, nothing of such exist in igbo land. Does this tell you something?


You have access to the Internet na, make use of it and stop disgracing your people.

They really never envisioned it will end this way

I intentionally left them to Chest beat and glorify their Ooni stool as the greatest in yoruba land before I start bursting their bubbles with his own words

borrowed 80% of their culture from this ancient stock of Igbos that journeyed to settle in Ife area(for whatever reason) Many many years before the arrival of the first yoruba group from their igala homelands

Obatala o, Oduduwa o all of Igbo stock!!, The very yoruba "Oba" title was taken from this stock of Igbos and modified into a title for king to suit their monarchist tendencies