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CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 11:15pm On Aug 18, 2020
TAO11:
I can’t believe you begged the mods to ban me for one year stating that I have violated the Igbo race grossly.

Why did you do that??

Say something! wink grin
Tao11 please tell me why you chose a female moniker, where you a freak beach to someone before we met? I'm a jealous Master
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 11:12pm On Aug 18, 2020
TAO11:
I can’t believe you begged the mods to ban me for one year stating that I have violated the Igbo race grossly.

Why did you do that?? cheesy grin
I could have reported your fat black ass direct to a supermod then I thought who will be my yoruba freaky freaky on this thread, others have tear race

I then changed my mind to preserve Tao my freaky freaky beach!! cheesy cheesy
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 11:10pm On Aug 18, 2020
TAO11:
I can’t believe you begged the mods to ban me b]for one year[b] stating that I have violated the Igbo race grossly. grin grin
Tao11 my yoruba freaky freaky(I hope you don't stink like most yoruba Though)cheesy
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 11:09pm On Aug 18, 2020
TAO11:
(1) Will you call on the mods for help (before running away) in case I begin to suffocate you with torture like I did last night?? grin

(2) Or will you begin to mime WilliamShakespeare again after receiving life-threatening torture like you did the penultimate night?? grin grin

(3) Or will it be a different strategy for this night??

You‘re obviously a coward snowflake who can obviously cannot stand too much flogging. Pleaser present a stronger Igbo person who doesn’t cry to the mods!
Tao11 my most loyal beach!! What do to you have to entertain me tonight?

Maybe we should exchange a little bout of insult as pre-intimacy to spice things up? cheesy
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 11:01pm On Aug 18, 2020
TAO11:
Stoooooooooooop!!! Dada Nwakata — the first Igbo to make clothes — was born in the 1800s.

You all must stop lying! Lying to “protect” your history doesn’t help in anyway.

Instead, it does two types of damages, namely: (1)kill your self-esteem because you yourself know you’re lying, and (2)kills your history because lies don’t last and people will soon find out as they just did now.

cc: SaintBeehot
Tao my day-one beach!!
All your praise singers have forsaken you at this pointgrin

You don fall their hands kpata kpata!! cheesy So tey one returned with a new moniker to console you and disappear againgrin The best they can do for you now is to contribute likes to your lost causecheesy

Bros na you Bleep up I'm sorry you had to go through all this grin grin
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 10:56pm On Aug 18, 2020
googi:
TAO11,

I can understand why you went toe to toe with their lack of facts but insults.

It is hard to believe that the Ooni of Ife in trying to make peace between Yoruba and Igbo, went as far as telling them they are decendants from his Palace.

Many Igbo rejected it as being subordinates of Yoruba while others were glad to take it, run and interpret it the way they want.

Igbo have always wanted to be Yoruba and Ooni gave them a subordinate role.

It should have been the end of discussion and no arguments or insults.

Nnamdi Azikiwe claimed Bini as extension of Yoruba and named his son Ayodele.

The computer scientist Philip Emeagwali claimed to be an extension of Yoruba from Akure.

The Igbo from Delta State still speak Yoruba.

Yoruba outside Nigeria want to relate to Yoruba, so are Nigerians!
Who this? grin
Abobaku!! If you don't geddifok out of here with your slippers in hand.

You must be one of the Abobaku sons I forced to unfollow the thread now hiding behind a new moniker to return and motivate Tao11 grin grin

Judging from Your emotional, defeatist unintelligent post I'd say MinorityOpinion hahaha grin

Nigga sorry I made you get a new moniker cheesy

Again below is the video clip of the greatest king of the Yoruba race(according to you guys) Ooni of ife Affirming Igbos as the earliest race of humans grin

Timestamp 3:13 you can't miss it grin
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU

Tao11 remains my most day one beach!!! cheesy
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 8:38pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:
The fool don accept defeat for the village canoe port, na security and other irrelevant rubbish remain, funny enough, he's about to accept another defeat all over again.


grin grin
Mr man where is this osogbo airport?

I heard it's now a cowport

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77:
Gabkosh:
Where is your security outfit.

We have our lol.

Guess pic 3 is that of your own, fasting and prayer warriors grin
What brought your toothless Amotekun here with their Manual pump action gun cheesy, Dunce!!
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77:
Gabkosh:
Hahahaha. Dumbo, go and read about Orange river. The longest river in southern AfricaThis one is asking if Lesotho has any water body that connect to the ocean. Hahahahaha.

Lesotho and Igboland are same, the must navigate before getting into ocean. Both of you are land locked grin
Nigga this is orange river in Lesotho, Is this what you are comparing with river Niger grin......Whatever your definition of landlocked na you Sabi

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 7:33pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:
Nna, even though for decades your PDP uncles neglected your village airport, I thank the same PMB that you hateful and bitter people hate so much for actualizing your village airport dreams.


God Bless PMB..


grin grin grin
How far with your own village osogbo airport? grin

Last I checked it's now a ruga settlement cheesy

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 7:26pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:
[s][/s]



We are talking about you village canoe port, stop diverting.

Nna, even though for decades your PDP uncles neglected your canoe port, I thank the same PMB that you hateful and bitter people hate so much for actualizing your canoe port dreams.


God Bless PMB..



grin grin grin
This is the the state of the Osun airport you kept disturbing us about last year grin

Shameless BMC

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77:
[quote author=NGpatriot post=92965404][/quote]We are truly happy for you grin grin
But igboland is about to receive all its container goods through Onitsha river port

Enugu airport is nearing the completion of its upgrade, the rest of the SE states are currently at different stages of their respective airports

The SE can only move forward from here, Ahead Ahead :
PoliticsRe: "60 Percent Of Cargo In Nigeria Goes To Onitsha"- NIWA by Hellraiser77: 7:05pm On Aug 18, 2020
This one is a confirmed fact grin it's like saying bitterleaf is bitter

Onitsha river port will become a hub of activities once fully operational, and may need to be expanded under its first year of operations

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 7:02pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:
From your world famous ignorance and illiteracy education, ipob village square gathering night school did not do you any good.

grin grin
Bros you are the illiterate here No cap grin
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 7:00pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:
Smallest or largest barge, it's still going to be a barge, not an ocean sailing vessel because your village is landlocked.

At least you don face your reality..

grin grin
We are Shaa recieving our goods direct to igboland? grin Until the imo and Niger rivers are properly dredged for ocean liners we will rejoice over our badges

It saves a large chunk of money and time grin

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:57pm On Aug 18, 2020
Pentagon007:
grin grin grin
Course code: Shippings 101

Lecturer: (PhD)

Students: NGpatriot Gbabkosh grin
The students stupid as f**© grin cheesy
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:54pm On Aug 18, 2020
[quote author= post=92964719]Dumbo how can Ship sail when River Niger channel isn't dredge to contain bigger vessel huh[/quote]Don't mind this people grin, If they could Dry up the Niger river and Imo river with their bitterness they will do it this instance.

I understand their pains

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:50pm On Aug 18, 2020
Gabkosh:
Does Lesotho receive container or not.


That means Lesotho is not land locked right, see IPOb brain hehehehehehe
Does Lesotho have any body of water that connects the ocean? cheesy

This not IPob matter, it's a matter of common sense As against the pain and bitterness that pervades your hearts grin
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:47pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:







Not interested in your comedy, the anambrason dude is a better comedian.


grin grin
The only comedian in this thread is you grin

The SE can only move forward from here, Your pain is not ending soon

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:46pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:
I'm not interested in your deceptive and diversionary international waterway nonsense and rubbish, just proof to us that your village is not landlocked and ocean sailing vessels can land your canor riverport.


That's all.


grin grin
Onitsha port will receive the largest barges possible, You pain is well understood

PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:44pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:
Does this = iboland is not landlocked and ocean sailing ships can land your village canoe port?

What's your point really?

grin grin
You mistake the Igboland for Niger republic, Igbo land is not even close to being landlocked cheesy......Whatevr you choose to delude yourself with to feel good is not anybodys busines grin
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:35pm On Aug 18, 2020
Area4Area:
Till then na
Until then recieving all containers coming into SE by river badges is a huge win commercialy

It cuts time and expenses cheesy
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77:
Gabkosh:
Hian, do they say they will block, what they are saying is that Igboland is landlocked. Fakati
If your term "landlocked" that means igbos don't have a beach then you maybe right

If you are implying SE can't recieve containers direct from the ocean then you cant be more wrong cheesy

We don't need a coastline to acces the sea grin
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:30pm On Aug 18, 2020
NGpatriot:
Ignorant and unintelligent ipob illiterate, ocean sailing Vessels don't go anywhere near the Danube, such transportation is done via barges just like your village river barge landing.

Danube is an inland waterway and they use barges to transport cargo and ferries for leisure cruises.

Please, I keep telling you, confine your ignorant and deceptive rubbish to your fellow ignorant and unintelligent ipobs.



grin grin
Bros do you know there are badges that carry more than hundred containers?......Until the Niger can be properly dredged badges direct to onitsha is a huge win for the SE.

Your opinion about anything is highly inconsequential grin
PoliticsRe: Southeast Is Landlocked: See Shipment Tracking On MEASRK Website by Hellraiser77: 6:26pm On Aug 18, 2020
Area4Area:
Go straight to the point next time, long epistles no good.
Whether you like it or not, the River Niger would still pass through Nigeria's landmass in Bayelsa or Rivers, do you have any agreement with Nigeria?
Do you know about the international waters treaty?...Them no born Nigeria to block water access to any country
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77:
gwafaeziokwu:
Every time they will be wondering why Igbo man appears confident and bold in all his dealings. They don't know their fathers. Who should we actually be afraid of? We were here before they all came. Some are even our off springs. Can a child be older than his father?

Their Ooni couldn't help but say it as it is.
The truth remains that Yoruba people and it's culture are very very young and may have fully evolved just around the 12th century.

Whereas Igbos as a people and their language in particular has been proven to be atleast 6000years old grin grin.

According to Hartle D.D.. Archaeology in Eastern Nigeria. In: Nigeria Magazine, No. 93, June 1967 "Archeology indicates that the Igbo were in occupation of parts of modern day south-eastern
Nigeria by 2000 – 3000 BC.”

This is a clear indication that Igbos preceded Yoruba by more than three thousand years as anthropology has proven, Nothing in Igbo culture reflects anything Yoruba wheres major aspects of Yoruba culture, deities etc bear the marks of Igbo origin. grin

Again yoruba today suggests that Ife means a place of dispersion but this just a connotative meaning put on it by yoruba grincheesy, ...Ife is simply the Igbo word for "daylight" and was by implication used to refer to Various settlements made by clearing expanses of Thick canopied rain forests thus making way for IFE(Daylight)

LegendHero MinorityOpinion tao11
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 11:42am On Aug 18, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:
grin grin
I thought you have sheated your sword. You don't need to commit murder nwanne. This back to back gunshots is fatal. Spice it with little mercy.
I enjoy riding this people like bicycle grin grin
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77:
Below is the Oonis report of how ancient Igbos first settled Ile ife,
This report is also collaborated by professor Ade Obayemi
grin grin

The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi recently opened a longstanding debate about the relationship between the Igbo and the Yoruba, and did affirm that the Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife. The Ooni’s asserts that the ancient Igbo connections to Ife is still evident in the traditions preserved in the oral narratives of Ife itself, and in the extant lineages of the Igbo still present in their habitations inside the Ooni’s palace. The Igbo quarters are still present in Ife. What the Ooni brings to this debate is legitimacy, because Yoruba tradition confers the authority of national memory on the office of the Ooni.


The Ooni in a sense validates the accounts of the eminent Nigerian historian and anthropologist, the late Professor Ade Obayemi. Obayemi accounts for a first pavement of culture in what is now known as the cradle of Yoruba origin, but which was once originally settled by the Igbo led by Obatala. This is not a new argument, and the Olugbo of Ugbo’s disputes with the Ooni about an ancient Igbo habitation and displacement is either ignorant or mischievous. The Igbo were the original inhabitants of Ife and had installed, and practiced a culture based on their ancient Odinala religion of peace, of the divine rights of the individual and not of kings, of the protection and validation of the weak and infirm, of an artistic and creative value rather than of war and destruction. All these values are embodied in the myth of Obatala the sculptor and creative “demiurge” of current Yoruba mythology. And of course of he also models the value of the Republic over the monarchy.


The Igbo had been marked by the multiplicity of their settlements in Ile-Ife which the Igbo know by its more ancient name as “Igbo-Omoku.” As a matter of fact, Obatala was a High Priest in the mold of the Igbo priesthood, like the EzeNri, and aspects of this priestly function was absorbed by the Ooni who equally then also absorbed the monarchical order that replaced the Igbo republican order of the Obatala era. The current Ile-Ife is therefore a hybrid system between the displaced Igbo culture and the settler order that replaced it. The war over Ife between the Igbo and the new wave of migrants to Ife was over two different ways of life: the freedom associated with the Republic or the order and control associated the monarchy.


Obatala’s group was defeated, and was driven into exile, and scattered into places including as far as Ketu, and places as far as what we call Dahomey and Togo today. The republic disappeared and the monarchy as embodied by Oduduwa replaced it. The rivalry between the Igbo and the Yoruba continue to mirror this. The wars the Igbo levied consistently against the new settlers is preserved and enacted even today in the Yoruba Egungun festivals, the Oreluere, the Obameri, the Moremi and the Edi festivals. The eminent modernist playwright, Femi Osofisan, gives a new sheen to it in his play, Morountodun, based on the Moremi myth. The Egungun festival is preserved as the Yoruba Festival of liberation from the marauding and masked Igbo “Egwugwu warriors.”



The Obatala festival celebrates the canonization of the era of peace as embodied by Obatala and the Igbo, at a time of national regret, years later, when the Yoruba began to rue the tyranny of Kings in their new order, and regret the loss of the period of peace and creativity of the old order represented by the Igbo. They turned and memorialized the leader of the Igbo, Obatala, into a god, and the period of Igbo culture as the highest moment of creative fluorescence in the Yoruba world. The Ifa preserves this for us. And to this day, the Yoruba inhabit two souls: there is the fiercely republican Yoruba, many of whom find close affinity with the Igbo, and there is the Yoruba monarchist, who fiercely defends the settled order of kings. But that is as far as the Ooni’s knowledge of the Igbo situation in Ife goes.


There is an alternative narrative tradition that says the Igbo themselves in their wave of migration following Amadioha’s destruction of the ancient world met an even older settlement in Ife of people whom they absorbed and protected and introduced to a settled and peaceful way of existence. What this story points to us is that human migration – settlements and resettlements have remained a constant in man’s development and search for security.

That is why the evolving story of the Fulani herdsmen today is interesting and complex. The Ooni suggests that the Igbo moved from Ile-Ife to their current settlements in Igbo land. That is not true. In fact archeological evidence proves that a place like Igbo-Ukwu is a much older settlement than Ife. So in fact, in current Igbo historiography, and assessment of their movements, Ife is a newer settlement of the Igbo, and may have been part of a wave of migration leading to a pavement of Igbo history following an ancient catastrophe.


There are many hypothesis of these settlements, and there is no doubt that the Yoruba and the Igbo are close and related. The language and the cultural patterns suggest points of very recent contacts and break-offs. The Idu – the Benin – is the medial culture between the Igbo and the Yoruba. Indeed, the Benin suggest that Izoduwa was Oduduwa, and they know precisely when he left Ani-Idu (Benin City). So, who indeed are these people? There is the Nok hypothesis which suggests a coagulation that broke off at the Niger-Benue valley, with the Jukun, the Igbo, the Yoruba and the Igala, and possibly the Idu, moving apart into their current settlements.


There is the Igbo-Nupe-Yoruba hypothesis of a movement from Egypt, through the crags of Air, that settled in their current locations. Indeed, two studies published by the English colonial anthropologist, M.D.W. Jeffreys, “The Winged Solar Disk, or the Ibo Itchi Scarification Marks” (1951), and “A Triad of gods in Africa,” (1972) explore and affirm these links, and the possible Egyptian origin of the Igbo, and their worship of the Sun god. The Igbo still call their first-born sons, “Opa- RA” (priest of the Sun-God, RA). MDW Jeffreys identifies in the symbols of the “Ichi” scarifications carved into the forehead and cheeks of the Igbo titled aristocracy, Ndi Nze, the “sun, moon and the wings and tail of the hawk” and the ram-headed symbol of the “Ikenga,” as associated with ancient Egypt, particularly the winged solar disk symbol of Pharaoh Usertsen III.


The problem is that Jeffrey thought the circulation of the symbols were from Usertsen’s conquest of Nubia and the lands of the Meroetic ridge, and may thus have been, rather than of Igbo origin, of a specific Egyptian colonial origin. MDW Jeffrey writes that the resemblance of the Egyptian symbols has an amazingly close resemblance with the Nri-Igbo symbol, and raises the question of who may have borrowed from the other, and concludes that there is no evidence in Igbo of an independent invention of the symbol. This is profoundly inaccurate, of course, because of Jeffery’s project of attempting to sustain an idea of Egyptian cultural priority, or hegemony, and possibly maintain the fiction of a lack of cultural agency in Sub-Sahara Africa until it was brought from outside, a fiction that has long now been put to rest by works done by the likes of Cheik Anta Diop. There is no doubt that the Egyptian symbols may have Igbo origins. The Igbo stories claim that the Igbo once ruled the world and destroyed it.


They may have founded Egypt. The Igbo consider Igbo land, “Ala-Nso” and established the code of Eje-Alo. They are great travelers, but they always return, following the path of the Sun. Even the Egyptian priests, guardians of the Kemetic gnosis affirmed in their teachings to Solon, the culture patriarch of the Athenians, that they had preserved in their temples, nine thousands years to the day Solon asked the question, the ancient knowledge of a people by the great Atlantic who had been destroyed in their quest to conquer the known world. The Igbo themselves have the story of Kamalu, who took the impudent title “Amadioha” – and who destroyed the ancient world, and was himself blown to smithereens as he and his scientists experimented with “orisha-Akalum” or the “ore of the heavens,” or “Igwe” in his bid to create a powerful, all-conquering weapon of war. Amadioha’s recklessness remains a cautionary tale among the Igbo to this day, and you often hear the Igbo say, “onye emena ihe Ike” (let no one mess with energy), or “Anyi maara dowe ike” (We know the secret laws of energy, we just sealed it that no one should use it). That ancient secret was unraveled by Einstein, and thus the Atomic bomb.


Following Amadioha’s heresy, the Igbo abrogated the making of kings, forbade human sacrifice, and established a religion of peace. They dispersed in great numbers from their ancient habitations by the Atlantic in search of new habitations. Obatala and his group settled in Ife. And the story of these great Igbo settlements traverse the world. There are five sub-nations of the Igbo: the Agbaja, the Oru, the Isu, the Nri, and the Idu. That is why they say, “Isee!” or “Ihi aa!” at the end of the kolanut ritual that commemorates this filial unity, and its invocation of peace, and its summoning of the ancestral spirit. The Idu, who call themselves Benin today, are part of the larger Igbo, and are possibly the bridge with the Yoruba. The value of Ooni Enitan’s assertion is the necessity for strategic collaboration between these groups who must understand that the Igbo, Yoruba, Igala, Nupe, Jukun, and so many of the cultures in the West and Central West Africa have so much more in common, and must work together for their own security and prosperity.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2019/08/ooni-of-ife-and-the-igbo-yoruba-relationship/amp/

cc Tao11 legendhero sammy07 MinorityOpinion
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77:
SaintBeehot:
grin just try to be friendly, I don't wanna add to the depression Tao11 cause you already.
The only depressed person here is Tao11 and his sorry ugly ass
He has ran to hide like a scared little dog
cheesy grin

Tao11 come and lie you way out of what your Ooni said in Timestamp 3:17 of this video clip grin cheesy

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 9:52am On Aug 18, 2020
[s]
TAO11:
@Hellraiser77: And in case your Igbo mods will truly feel insecure to come to your rescue by removing my comments as wiping off your tears, then please be rest assured that I have already kept screenshots of your final dying moment from this page. Note that some Yoruba person will be made to attach them. grin cheesy

I am saying this out loud so you can cry even more bitterly knowing that there isn’t any shame-moping escape route for you.

You were flogged black and blue both in history and in ‘savagery’. I hope you aren’t feeling suicidal right now. Sorry! embarassed cry grin

Nri my fat black ass. cheesy

cc: LegendHero, MinorityOpinion, BabaRamota1980.
[/s]Tao my most loyal beach!! Rambling from now till eternity is useless, I now own you grin grin, Na me get that your fat black nyansh!! angry


Below is a clip of Ooni the greatest Yoruba monarch admitting Igbos were the first race of human beings to exist
grin grin

Time stamp 3:17 grin cheesy

[url]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU[/url]

Legendhero MinorityOpinion tao1
CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 9:41am On Aug 18, 2020
SaintBeehot:
I've also been following this thread bro, all I see you dishing out is thesis and not proven fact.
You might wanna explain what happened in the picture below.
Where did this one come from? Do you know how many of your Yoruba brothers that have ran away and unfollowed this thread? grin grin

Are you on a suicide mission to get your self disgraced?, Mercy doesn't live here just so you know
Tao11 is my loyal beach!!! I can't allow him run like the others grin grin

CultureRe: . by Hellraiser77: 9:30am On Aug 18, 2020
[s]
TAO11:
@Hellraiser77: In fact, if I get banned because you cried to the mods like an over-flogged baby, then that would convince me of three things.

(1) That I indeed flogged you into oblivion as promised and made you “suffer for 600 years”.

(2) That I successfully disgraced the entire Igbo nation on their own thread.

(3) That the Igbo mods are cowards who themselves have admitted that the Yoruba person was flogging the Nri villager almost to death.

But at least I would expect the Igbo mods to go through the thread to see how many people deserve to be banned if a ban was truly necessary for the flogger.

So, it’s still a loose-loose situation for both you and the entire Igbo nation.

cc: LegendHero
Tao my loyal beach!! you are almost completely drowned in your own filth grin grin, but you will be joking if you think your wailing and chest beating will make me pity you, You have now seen no one posses the monopoly of insults right? grin cheesy

Now back to sensibilities-

Below is the Oonis report of how ancient Igbos first settled Ile ife gringrin

The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi recently opened a longstanding debate about the relationship between the Igbo and the Yoruba, and did affirm that the Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife. The Ooni’s asserts that the ancient Igbo connections to Ife is still evident in the traditions preserved in the oral narratives of Ife itself, and in the extant lineages of the Igbo still present in their habitations inside the Ooni’s palace. The Igbo quarters are still present in Ife. What the Ooni brings to this debate is legitimacy, because Yoruba tradition confers the authority of national memory on the office of the Ooni.


The Ooni in a sense validates the accounts of the eminent Nigerian historian and anthropologist, the late Professor Ade Obayemi. Obayemi accounts for a first pavement of culture in what is now known as the cradle of Yoruba origin, but which was once originally settled by the Igbo led by Obatala. This is not a new argument, and the Olugbo of Ugbo’s disputes with the Ooni about an ancient Igbo habitation and displacement is either ignorant or mischievous. The Igbo were the original inhabitants of Ife and had installed, and practiced a culture based on their ancient Odinala religion of peace, of the divine rights of the individual and not of kings, of the protection and validation of the weak and infirm, of an artistic and creative value rather than of war and destruction. All these values are embodied in the myth of Obatala the sculptor and creative “demiurge” of current Yoruba mythology. And of course of he also models the value of the Republic over the monarchy.


The Igbo had been marked by the multiplicity of their settlements in Ile-Ife which the Igbo know by its more ancient name as “Igbo-Omoku.” As a matter of fact, Obatala was a High Priest in the mold of the Igbo priesthood, like the EzeNri, and aspects of this priestly function was absorbed by the Ooni who equally then also absorbed the monarchical order that replaced the Igbo republican order of the Obatala era. The current Ile-Ife is therefore a hybrid system between the displaced Igbo culture and the settler order that replaced it. The war over Ife between the Igbo and the new wave of migrants to Ife was over two different ways of life: the freedom associated with the Republic or the order and control associated the monarchy.


Obatala’s group was defeated, and was driven into exile, and scattered into places including as far as Ketu, and places as far as what we call Dahomey and Togo today. The republic disappeared and the monarchy as embodied by Oduduwa replaced it. The rivalry between the Igbo and the Yoruba continue to mirror this. The wars the Igbo levied consistently against the new settlers is preserved and enacted even today in the Yoruba Egungun festivals, the Oreluere, the Obameri, the Moremi and the Edi festivals. The eminent modernist playwright, Femi Osofisan, gives a new sheen to it in his play, Morountodun, based on the Moremi myth. The Egungun festival is preserved as the Yoruba Festival of liberation from the marauding and masked Igbo “Egwugwu warriors.”



The Obatala festival celebrates the canonization of the era of peace as embodied by Obatala and the Igbo, at a time of national regret, years later, when the Yoruba began to rue the tyranny of Kings in their new order, and regret the loss of the period of peace and creativity of the old order represented by the Igbo. They turned and memorialized the leader of the Igbo, Obatala, into a god, and the period of Igbo culture as the highest moment of creative fluorescence in the Yoruba world. The Ifa preserves this for us. And to this day, the Yoruba inhabit two souls: there is the fiercely republican Yoruba, many of whom find close affinity with the Igbo, and there is the Yoruba monarchist, who fiercely defends the settled order of kings. But that is as far as the Ooni’s knowledge of the Igbo situation in Ife goes.


There is an alternative narrative tradition that says the Igbo themselves in their wave of migration following Amadioha’s destruction of the ancient world met an even older settlement in Ife of people whom they absorbed and protected and introduced to a settled and peaceful way of existence. What this story points to us is that human migration – settlements and resettlements have remained a constant in man’s development and search for security.

That is why the evolving story of the Fulani herdsmen today is interesting and complex. The Ooni suggests that the Igbo moved from Ile-Ife to their current settlements in Igbo land. That is not true. In fact archeological evidence proves that a place like Igbo-Ukwu is a much older settlement than Ife. So in fact, in current Igbo historiography, and assessment of their movements, Ife is a newer settlement of the Igbo, and may have been part of a wave of migration leading to a pavement of Igbo history following an ancient catastrophe.


There are many hypothesis of these settlements, and there is no doubt that the Yoruba and the Igbo are close and related. The language and the cultural patterns suggest points of very recent contacts and break-offs. The Idu – the Benin – is the medial culture between the Igbo and the Yoruba. Indeed, the Benin suggest that Izoduwa was Oduduwa, and they know precisely when he left Ani-Idu (Benin City). So, who indeed are these people? There is the Nok hypothesis which suggests a coagulation that broke off at the Niger-Benue valley, with the Jukun, the Igbo, the Yoruba and the Igala, and possibly the Idu, moving apart into their current settlements.


There is the Igbo-Nupe-Yoruba hypothesis of a movement from Egypt, through the crags of Air, that settled in their current locations. Indeed, two studies published by the English colonial anthropologist, M.D.W. Jeffreys, “The Winged Solar Disk, or the Ibo Itchi Scarification Marks” (1951), and “A Triad of gods in Africa,” (1972) explore and affirm these links, and the possible Egyptian origin of the Igbo, and their worship of the Sun god. The Igbo still call their first-born sons, “Opa- RA” (priest of the Sun-God, RA). MDW Jeffreys identifies in the symbols of the “Ichi” scarifications carved into the forehead and cheeks of the Igbo titled aristocracy, Ndi Nze, the “sun, moon and the wings and tail of the hawk” and the ram-headed symbol of the “Ikenga,” as associated with ancient Egypt, particularly the winged solar disk symbol of Pharaoh Usertsen III.


The problem is that Jeffrey thought the circulation of the symbols were from Usertsen’s conquest of Nubia and the lands of the Meroetic ridge, and may thus have been, rather than of Igbo origin, of a specific Egyptian colonial origin. MDW Jeffrey writes that the resemblance of the Egyptian symbols has an amazingly close resemblance with the Nri-Igbo symbol, and raises the question of who may have borrowed from the other, and concludes that there is no evidence in Igbo of an independent invention of the symbol. This is profoundly inaccurate, of course, because of Jeffery’s project of attempting to sustain an idea of Egyptian cultural priority, or hegemony, and possibly maintain the fiction of a lack of cultural agency in Sub-Sahara Africa until it was brought from outside, a fiction that has long now been put to rest by works done by the likes of Cheik Anta Diop. There is no doubt that the Egyptian symbols may have Igbo origins. The Igbo stories claim that the Igbo once ruled the world and destroyed it.


They may have founded Egypt. The Igbo consider Igbo land, “Ala-Nso” and established the code of Eje-Alo. They are great travelers, but they always return, following the path of the Sun. Even the Egyptian priests, guardians of the Kemetic gnosis affirmed in their teachings to Solon, the culture patriarch of the Athenians, that they had preserved in their temples, nine thousands years to the day Solon asked the question, the ancient knowledge of a people by the great Atlantic who had been destroyed in their quest to conquer the known world. The Igbo themselves have the story of Kamalu, who took the impudent title “Amadioha” – and who destroyed the ancient world, and was himself blown to smithereens as he and his scientists experimented with “orisha-Akalum” or the “ore of the heavens,” or “Igwe” in his bid to create a powerful, all-conquering weapon of war. Amadioha’s recklessness remains a cautionary tale among the Igbo to this day, and you often hear the Igbo say, “onye emena ihe Ike” (let no one mess with energy), or “Anyi maara dowe ike” (We know the secret laws of energy, we just sealed it that no one should use it). That ancient secret was unraveled by Einstein, and thus the Atomic bomb.


Following Amadioha’s heresy, the Igbo abrogated the making of kings, forbade human sacrifice, and established a religion of peace. They dispersed in great numbers from their ancient habitations by the Atlantic in search of new habitations. Obatala and his group settled in Ife. And the story of these great Igbo settlements traverse the world. There are five sub-nations of the Igbo: the Agbaja, the Oru, the Isu, the Nri, and the Idu. That is why they say, “Isee!” or “Ihi aa!” at the end of the kolanut ritual that commemorates this filial unity, and its invocation of peace, and its summoning of the ancestral spirit. The Idu, who call themselves Benin today, are part of the larger Igbo, and are possibly the bridge with the Yoruba. The value of Ooni Enitan’s assertion is the necessity for strategic collaboration between these groups who must understand that the Igbo, Yoruba, Igala, Nupe, Jukun, and so many of the cultures in the West and Central West Africa have so much more in common, and must work together for their own security and prosperity. Of that, I endorse.


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