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PoliticsRe: Come And Invest In Ekiti!! The State Is Developing Rapidly by Hellraiser77: 6:09pm On Feb 19, 2021
Oshigun:
If you're the right type of investor then why would anyone ever have issues with you? With all dues respect, I think it is obvious Igbos are unreasonable people for the singular fact they all never ask themselves "why us alone?".

Are there no other non-Yorubas investors in the SW like Edos, Tivs, Urhobo, etal ? Why have Yorubas never had any issues with them let alone ask them to leave?

Perhaps it is because those guys get on with their lives, personal progress and happiness rather than be obsessed with fighting and insulting their hosts as you Igbos are.
The problem is they are not as collectively successful as igbo people, Igbo collective success attracted yoruba jealousy .....i know this first hand
PoliticsRe: Why We Igbo Can't Just Face Our Problems. by Hellraiser77: 5:02pm On Feb 19, 2021
Resurrection212:
I still trying despite I was not born in southeast we only go home during the Christmas.
Stop fooling yourself Be proud of your ewedu heritage olaniyi grin grin

if igbos and their ways are tormenting you look away make thunder no go carelessly fire your ewedu head

PoliticsRe: Why We Igbo Can't Just Face Our Problems. by Hellraiser77: 4:49pm On Feb 19, 2021
Resurrection212:
lee anya na steeti ise ndi isi anyi wuru.anyi ga-asi na anyi wu lagos.if n'ezie anyi wu lagos why anyi anaghi eme otu ihe na mpaghara anyi.
What the heck is this gibberish? grin grin

where you attempting to write igbo or your native yoruba dialect?grin

PoliticsRe: Why We Igbo Can't Just Face Our Problems. by Hellraiser77: 4:46pm On Feb 19, 2021
Resurrection212:
I said it call me whatever You like I will continue to speak the truth.
You are simply wailing, a wailing ewedu dingbat grin grin
PoliticsRe: Why We Igbo Can't Just Face Our Problems. by Hellraiser77: 4:17pm On Feb 19, 2021
Resurrection212:
There is a man here oyigboupdate that always exposing ipob atrocities in our region. This ipob internet rat will not stop abuse him.
Olatunde i will slap you cheesy , Go and tell your fellow ewedu chain lovers to prepare for liberation
PoliticsRe: See The Tweet That Made Igbos To Hate FFK by Hellraiser77: 12:17pm On Feb 19, 2021
Chibuike21:
Whether you believe I'm Anioma is not the issue.
But I can tell you that Anioma is never going to be Igbo, not now, not tomorrow, NEVER.
Go and attend to your fathers cocoa tree in osogbo, ewedu dingbat grin grin

PoliticsRe: See The Tweet That Made Igbos To Hate FFK by Hellraiser77: 12:04pm On Feb 19, 2021
Chibuike21:
I'm Anioma, Ogwashi-Uku to be precise.
You wish grin Ewedu knucklehead, go back to osogbo and farm, hopefully herdsmen will spare you cheesy cheesy
PoliticsRe: See The Tweet That Made Igbos To Hate FFK by Hellraiser77: 11:58am On Feb 19, 2021
Chibuike21:
Where are you residing now as we speak? Let me guess, Abuja or Lagos.
Olajide why are you worked up this morning cheesy cheesy , Why dont you go back to your herdsmen ravaged Ogbomosho where your ancestors came from?

CultureRe: What If Proto-igboid Speakers Entered Igboland From The South? by Hellraiser77: 1:52pm On Feb 16, 2021
macof:
"Ugbo" are not more aboriginal than the other Isoro groups in Ife. Neither was the conflict between Aborigines and Foreigners... It was a civil war. Its funny how you are defensive over a story that isn't even told by igbo ancestors but by yoruba ancestors

Already you have defeated your argument by "they didn't know how they got there". Meaning there's no such thing in their traditions and all these are just recent attempts to fill in a void and unknown period of existence with elements from yoruba stories. So again, you can't know anything of what you are saying.. You still have to depend on yoruba history for what you claim is grand igbo history even as far as saying Proto-igbo of 8000 BC were the ones referred to, adding timeline inconsistencies. We should be getting all the narratives from igbos, but we get only reworked versions of the Yoruba narratives, where igbos have now been inserted

Fabricated bullshitt didn't stop you from reading and talking about it in the absence of any history from your side. Because its not as if you have the "non-fabricated bullshitt" that is independent of the fabricated one.
Worry more about igbo history, that's what the thread is about, instead of worrying about what the problem with yoruba history is, which tells more about your lack of understanding and limited knowledge on the subject matter than a problem with the traditional stories themselves. It's ok to be confused when you have little understanding of something but don't project that on everything, that should be on you alone.

Anyway, let's not digress. The thread should remain focused on Proto-igbo... In this case, it makes no sense to even dwell on Ife-Ugbo conflict
As expected it turns to incoherent rants grin grin, it's very easy to bruise the ego of yoruba amateur historians just hit at the fables they spurn around Ile ife Always does the Magic cheesy.

Anyway I expect you to take your insecure rants to the Ooni of Ife and ask him why he said and insisted that Oduduwa met Igbo people in Ile ife grin grin

Watch this clip and notice nobody was holding him at gunpoint grin https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU
CultureRe: What If Proto-igboid Speakers Entered Igboland From The South? by Hellraiser77: 10:21am On Feb 16, 2021
macof:
1. You wouldn't know this. It's not like there's any additional to the story that is coming from Igbo speaking towns.. The entire story from start to finish exists only in Yorùbá speaking areas but somehow the grand story is about Igbos and only the tiny piece is about yorubas undecided

2. "Igbo" is standard Yoruba dialect, "Ugbo" is central and south Eastern Yoruba dialects... Which both Ife and Ilaje fall into, so yes Ugbo is actually what they called themselves then, as they still do now
As far as historians can 'recall' is also all you have. So what is the issue exactly?
1. Such stories are present in few western Igbo communities including the igbanke people in modern Edo state.

The current Obi of Onitsha proclaimed recently that the aboriginals of Ife were a stock of Igbos saperate from their South east kin, which may finally put to rest the question of Igbos that claim they came from bini but don't know how they got there. https://newsexpressngr.com/news/38932-Igbos-were-the-first-to-settle-in-Ile-Ife-Obi-of-Onitsha

The current ooni of Ife corroborated it recently with stories of Igbo settlements that Oduduwa superimposed his dynasty on, thereby assimilating a vast majority while some groups simply scattered on various directions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2019/08/ooni-of-ife-and-the-igbo-yoruba-relationship/amp/

The problem with Yoruba history is the sheer amount of folk tales and fabricated bullshlt packaged inside First by Ajayi crowther who first used the name "Yoruba" and later Awolowo to unite all the warring groups that today call themself Yoruba
CultureRe: What If Proto-igboid Speakers Entered Igboland From The South? by Hellraiser77:
AjaanaOka:
You know, I thought the -okun there would have something to do with the sea, but Blier ascribed a different interpretation to it.

Help me clarify something: was Igbomokun in ancient Ife, or was it somewhere towards the sea in the Ilaje area (as some people have said)?

Also, can you give some examples of -ku- words from other Volta-Niger languages that signify the sea? I would think that since the homeland of the Volta-Niger languages was far from the sea they wouldn't have a common word for sea.
The question is does he know? even if he does, does it fit his favoured narrative? grin, Plenty "Igbos" from that era, but "Igbo ukwu" remained the grandest and most revered in many ways.

Also read this this article if you have the time "ANCIENT ILE-IFE: ANOTHER CULTURAL HISTORICAL REINTERPRETATION" from the journal of the historical society of Nigeria
CultureRe: What If Proto-igboid Speakers Entered Igboland From The South? by Hellraiser77: 1:59pm On Feb 15, 2021
macof:
Lol. I'm sure you know the people in this history of Ife are the Ugbo of Ilaje?

Also you spoke of an 8000 BC migration of Proto-igbo into the modern Ife area or something like that earlier(you weren't very coherent)
You do realise the Ugbo part of Ife history is very very recent in the grand scale of things? 12th - 14th century to be exact.
No way Proto-igbo left Ife 12th - 14th century if they were indeed in Ife before migrating South and then east according to you.
The Igbos/Ugbo of ilaje is just a tiny piece in a much grander puzzle of countless small settlements and polities that were aboriginal to the Ile-ife area before the arrival of Oduduwa and his followers, the current Ooni of Ife even called attention to this fact recently.

Call it ugbo or igbo, the fact is they were a very ancient group of fragmented settlements and small villages encompassing but not limited to the Ife area overseen by a highly revered priest/ruler called Obatala, the ilajes are just a tiny part of this Ife-igbos and no their history doesn't start around the 12th-14th centuries, that's just as far as any historian recalls

P:S- This does not in any way mean the Igbos of modern southeastern Nigeria originated from the Ife area
CultureRe: What If Proto-igboid Speakers Entered Igboland From The South? by Hellraiser77: 8:27am On Feb 14, 2021
AjaanaOka:
I guess you must be referring to the tradition that Ife in its earliest period was called Igbomokun (interpreted as 'the dawn belongs to the Igbo).
Yes, it would appear Obatala was after all an Igbo devine priest exactly like the type overseeing NRI, seen as a Divine ruler, had extensive mystical powers, yet abhored wars and conflicts to the amazement of this early yoruba settlers
CultureRe: What If Proto-igboid Speakers Entered Igboland From The South? by Hellraiser77: 9:40pm On Feb 13, 2021
AjaanaOka:
The story of a pre-Oduduwa population in the Ife area known as "Igbo" is fairly well-known; and that wasn't what I was asking about. What I was seeking clarification on is the use of the word/place-name "Omoku" which I have never encountered being used in relation to Ife at any period in its history.
I'm a bit occupied currently, Arts in ancient Ife, Birthplace of Yoruba by Suzzane Preston blier it's was mentioned somewhere in this 1957 article, it's only sixteen pages go through it
CultureRe: What If Proto-igboid Speakers Entered Igboland From The South? by Hellraiser77:
AjaanaOka:
This "Omoku" part is entirely news to me. Are you suggesting there was an aboriginal group at present-day Ife who knew the area as Omoku, before the town became Yoruba? Is there a paper or an article written on this that I can access?
Taken from 'Arts in ancient Ife, Birthplace of Yoruba by Suzzane Preston blier" Ancient Igbo populations in Ife shouldn't be news to anybody with interest in the deep history of ancient tribes of West Africa


I have hundreds of other articles and evidences But since you are already a history enthusiast and Igbo I ll let you put it together yourself just focus on the Obatala Era or the pre-oduduwa era of Ife history it's very clear that Igbos were aboriginal in modern day yoruba land.....there is even genetic evidence to back this up, I can provide if you need

CultureRe: What If Proto-igboid Speakers Entered Igboland From The South? by Hellraiser77: 7:42pm On Feb 10, 2021
The Op's theory is sound logically and based on available evidence i had arrived at the same conclusion after rigorous evidence based research, However it doesn't cover the entirety of the population that is today known as Igbo, it more precisely explains the long forgotten and ancient history of southern Igboland populations.

My position which is similar to yours and which was arrived at through rigorous and extensive examination is this:-

1- What is today know as Igbo people Moved southwards from an area close to the Niger-benue confluence for whatever reason but most likely to seek out new lands as the continued drying of the Sahara area which used to be a very vast lush green area pushed early Sahara human populations southwards, This was very early maybe up to 8000BC.

2-This early proto-igbo southward movement spanned hundreds of years and was very scattered, most went southwards towards today's northern Igboland Others followed a more south Westerly direction into what is today an area covering parts of modern Osun, ekiti, ondo and ondo states later to be Joined by Edoid peoples and the ethnicities that exist under the yoruba umbrella name today, some of them moved again through the direction The OP presented and finally settled at the southern part of the Igboland.

3-This includes southern igboland populations as well as the Ogba, ekpeye, And the ikwerre that being why I don't totally laugh ikwerre out of court when they say their ancestors came from Edo.(the Onitsha and most Igbos west of the Niger river fall into this category too)

4-Some of this proto-igbo people of modern day south western Nigeria was resident in what is today known as ile-ife they called it "Omoku" before some modern day yoruba ancestors arrived and blended the whole gene pool of the area into what it is today(The principal town of the Ogba people of rivers state is still called "Omoku" today"

To put in simpler terms all Igbos originated from a single source around 8000bc around the area where the Niger and Benue rivers met, But arrived from different directions to what is today modern Igboland this influx was also separated by vast expanses of time


Note----- Any Insecure low esteem yoruba person that enters my mention will be dealt with.....I NO GET FILTER O cheesy cheesy
CultureLool!!!! by Hellraiser77(op):
Seun don kuku lock our thread

I was planning to bury Tao11 inside angry

Anybody interested in witnessing a miracle live, should go to the thread and see how Tao11 will start liking all his comments with his 50 monikers grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:23pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
[b

[color=#990000]Your edited version says they live on water in Lagos.

That line was the dead give-away because the Ijebus of Lagos don’t live on water.


Will you now explain why you edited out “Eboe” and replaced it with “Jebu”?

Were you trying to protect the identity of your ape-like Osu refugee grandmother who unfortunately features in the pictures??
Audience this is the story line so far....

I showed Tao11 an innocent photo of ijebu women including tao11s grandma taken by British in the 1900s with their breast hanging out like paw paw grin grin

Tao11 got angry and started throwing tantrums that I edited the image and put "jebu" ( as if I dont know how to spell "ijebu" if I was about editing evidence grin grin)

Please have I done any wrong by digging out a rare old picture of Tao11s grandma with other ijebu women? cheesy cheesy


Stay tuned to this station!! grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:20pm On Dec 21, 2020
Tao11 we can only consider your denial of your ijebu grandma and her friends by posting a picture of your breasts here to cross examine with hers in the picture grin grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:18pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
Now here is the untampered and unedited version of the Eboe pictures.[/colo

[color=#990000]Your edited version says they live on water in Lagos.

That line was the dead give-away because the Ijebus of Lagos don’t live on water.


Will you now explain why you edited out “Eboe” and replaced it with “Jebu”?

Were you trying to protect the identity of your ape-like Osu refugee grandmother who unfortunately features in the pictures??
Audience this is the story line so far....

I showed Tao11 an innocent photo of ijebu women including tao11s grandma taken by British in the 1900s with their breast hanging out like paw paw grin grin

Tao11 got angry and started throwing tantrums that I edited the image and put "jebu" ( as if I dont know how to spell "ijebu" if I was about editing evidence grin grin)

Please have I done any wrong by digging out a rare old picture of Tao11s grandma with other ijebu women? cheesy cheesy


Stay tuned to this station!! grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:17pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
Oh you mean flogging like when begged that I should be banned for one year and it failed??
Tao11 run go meet seun because of picture wey I post, seun no gree ban me cheesy

She decide to kuku quit Nairaland for me grin grin

See her tearfulemotional epistle below
grin grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:14pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
[b

[color=#990000]Your edited version says they live on water in Lagos.

That line was the dead give-away because the Ijebus of Lagos don’t live on water.


Will you now explain why you edited out “Eboe” and replaced it with “Jebu”?

Were you trying to protect the identity of your ape-like Osu refugee grandmother who unfortunately features in the pictures??
Audience this is the story line so far....

I showed Tao11 an innocent photo of ijebu women including tao11s grandma taken by British in the 1900s with their breast hanging out like paw paw grin grin

Tao11 got angry and started throwing tantrums that I edited the image and put "jebu" ( as if I dont know how to spell "ijebu" if I was about editing evidence grin grin)

Please have I done any wrong by digging out a rare old picture of Tao11s grandma with other ijebu women? cheesy cheesy


Stay tuned to this station!! grin cheesy grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:13pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
You mean flogging like the attached below?
Flogging like when you reported me to seun and it failed

You decided to quit Nairaland for six months to mourn you disgrace
grin grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:10pm On Dec 21, 2020
[quote author=TAO11 post=97305758]Now here is the untampered and unedited version of the Eboe pictures.
[img

Your edited version says they live on water in Lagos.

That line was the dead give-away because the Ijebus of Lagos don’t live on water.


Audience this is the story line so far....

I showed Tao11 an innocent photo of ijebu women including tao11s grandma taken by British in the 1900s with their breast hanging out like paw paw grin grin

Tao11 got angry and started throwing tantrums that I edited the image and put "jebu" ( as if I dont know how to spell "ijebu" if I was about editing evidence grin grin)

Please have I done any wrong by digging out a rare old picture of Tao11s grandma with other ijebu women? cheesy cheesy


Stay tuned to this station!! grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:08pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
Now here is the untampered and unedited

[color=#990000]Your edited version says they live on water in Lagos.

That line was the dead give-away because the Ijebus of Lagos don’t live on water.


Will you now explain why you edited out “[b]Eboe
” and replaced it with “Jebu”?

Were you trying to protect the identity of your ape-like Osu refugee grandmother who unfortunately features in the pictures??
I am not interested in your emotional Wailings grin grin cheesy

Audience this is the story line so far....

I showed Tao11 an innocent photo of ijebu women including tao11s grandma taken by British in the 1900s with their breast hanging out like paw paw grin grin

Tao11 got angry and started throwing tantrums that I edited the image and put "jebu" ( as if I dont know how to spell "ijebu" if I was about editing evidence grin grin)

Please have I done any wrong by digging out a rare old picture of Tao11s grandma with other ijebu women? cheesy cheesy


Stay tuned to this station!! grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:05pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
The words “Osu” and “offline-life” can NOT fit into the same library.

The Osu rejection is too much. We get it. grin

But is there something I did that why you want me banned for 1 yeeeeeaaaaarrrr
i flogged and battered Tao11 so much yesterday he carry my matter go meet seun grin grin

Brothers and sisters no be me be this? grin


Flogging continues for tao11

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 10:02pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
Osu and Off-line life? — Naa!

Osu living life on Nairaland only —- Yay! Now you’re talking.

Okay we get it. The rejection! cheesy

But what’s going on in the screenshot below.

Can you please identify ya seeelllff??
Audience we are now starting to witness another episode of madness from Tao11, this will be followed by am emotional farewell letter like the one below grin grin

Stay tuned grin grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 9:59pm On Dec 21, 2020
Audience this is the story line so far....

I showed Tao11 an innocent photo of ijebu women including tao11s grandma taken by British in the 1900s with their breast hanging out like paw paw grin grin

Tao11 got angry and started throwing tantrums that I edited the image and put "jebu" ( as if I dont know how to spell "ijebu" if I was about editing evidence grin grin)

Please have I done any wrong by digging out a rare old picture of Tao11s grandma with other ijebu women? cheesy cheesy


Stay tuned to this station!! grin

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 9:55pm On Dec 21, 2020
Tao11 what will end this episode is to post a pic of your breast for detailed comparison with your grandmas poff pofff breast pictured below grin grin

Etinosa12345 or Gregboy will do the cross examination cheesy

CultureRe: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Hellraiser77: 9:52pm On Dec 21, 2020
TAO11:
Why did you edit out “Eboe” and replaced it with “Jebu” ??

Below is the unedited version of your Osu grandmother’s picture.

Stop denying your Osu grandmother just because she is ape-like.
grin cheesy
Audience this is the story line so far....

I showed Tao11 an innocent photo of ijebu women including tao11s grandma taken by British in the 1900s with their breast hanging out like paw paw grin grin

Tao11 got angry and started throwing tantrums that I edited the image and put "jebu" ( as if I dont know how to spell "ijebu" grin grin)

Please have I done any wrong by digging out a rare old picture of Tao11s grandma with other ijebu women? cheesy cheesy

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