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TAO11:
Rule 15. Cc: Mynd44, Seun

You go cry blood for my hand

I'm doing you a favour by making you lose weight via emotional exercise

Ideadoctor:
now I know I have been conversing with an illiterate since, abeg shift make person wey dey reason wella con debate me

Emotional cry baby

You are constantly sliding into my tar pit once I have you in position I will slaughter you mercilessly like I did to Tao11 the lying cunt

Ideadoctor:
as if you were there when ancient Yoruba was been spoken, Yoruba language is a mother language that other language feeds from,ask attah of igala,he would tell you that igala is fusion of different languages

Ofcourse as a Yoruba close minded dimwit i expected you to say that while totally ignoring the fact that all scientific evidence points that yoruba group moved down from an area that roughly corresponds to the igala homelands today.

IGBOs as a group is older to yoruba by 3000years!!!!

Ideadoctor:
were you there when the language broke? more over,IFA chanting proofs that Yoruba language is almost the same as it is 4000 years ago

Ifa is a gift Yoruba received from Igbo omoku people they met in Ife.....Igbos as a distinct people and language precedes Yoruba by 3000 whole years.

Besides this same Ifa in one of its "Odu"s mentions the modern Ile ife as a fake replica

TAO11:
Yawns! Poor attempt at super story. This is no where close to changing my mind.

Try again!

Go and meet your Ooni in Ife to change your mind

Ideadoctor:
were you there when the language broke? more over,IFA chanting proofs that Yoruba language is almost the same as it is 4000 years ago

Scientific research has it that Yoruba came from a more northern location near the confluence of the Niger and the Benue rivers in modern day Kogi state

Meanwhile have you heard an igala person speak?.......it's like an ancient version of Yoruba and heavy on the mouth

Yoruba is like a baby where Igbos and igala are

TAO11:
Wonderful!!

Anyways, Igbo means forest, and Olugbo is NOT an Eboe man.

Please change my mind.

For millenias up until today the Igbo stock anywhere they are found have favoured building their villages deep in the forest without clearing and cutting down trees like their more northern cousins

These people where in perfect union with nature early on, hence their early mastery of mystical methods and advanced juju.

Funfact Up until today some rituals have to be observed before certain trees are cut in Igboland

Ideadoctor:
Bros are you alright? Yoruba is a recent language or what did you say,better be careful

Well it's the honest truth, Yoruba broke away from igala few centuries ago and lost their "kw" "gw" "Ch" "NW" and "Z" sounds which the igala language retains just like Igbo till today

Truth is not measured in mass appeal sorry

TAO11:
The last time I devoted a flogging session to you, you wept profusely to the mods, claiming that I bullied you.

You were subsequently ignored because you lacked the stamina to soak in the torture without complain.

I really do hope something has changed this time around.

(1) There is no evidence that Igbos are the oldest group in Southern Nigeria.

All “Nigeria” ethno-linguistic groups spread out as distinct ethnic-linguistic groups from the region of the Middle Niger — mostly around the N-B confluence and above it.

They all settled into their present respective locations at about the same period of history.

The Iwo-Eleru human bones do not date to 43,000 years old. The Yorubas did not settle in from modern-day Kogi state.

The Yorubas have occupied their present location since many centuries BCE, not 1200 CE.

There is no evidence that modern-day Igbo people spoke a language similar to that spoken by the then forest dwellers of Ife.

(2) Obatala was not the first king in Ife. In fact, Ife had no singular monarchy overseeing its affairs prior to the present dynasty.

There is no evidence that Igbo (i.e. forest) in the context of ancient Ife relates to modern-day south-easterners.

(3) Lastly, the Moremi episode has everything to do with the Obatala Igbo (or forest) group as re-enacted till date in the annual Edi festival.

You have claimed that the Moremi is “absent in the history of South eastern Igbos today simply because it has nothing to do with them”.

Yet, somehow you want to claim Obatala in the same breath.

I wonder what logical reasoning sounds like to you. Scary? Or are you the new Binis in town?

(4) The name Ẹ̀keńwá has absolutely nothing to do with pre-Oduduwa Ife. It’s instead the name of one of Oduduwa’s later successor/descendant.

Yes, I understand your excitement, a modern south-eastern Igbo word sounds like it.

Cc: LegendHero

What a lying Cunt this beach is

The Iwo eleru remains is a "humanoid" discovery not like modern humans, this remains dates back 43,000 years ago you lying beach!!!

There is evidence that aboriginal Ife(Igbo omoku) dwellers spoke a language relates to modern igbo spoken in the south east.....Tell me what "Ekenwa", "Oduduwa" "Edi" and Egungun mean in Yoruba you obese schlubb ....these are perfect Igbos words with little disfiguration

Moremi story is absent in the history of South eastern Igbos cos they themselves descended from different stocks of Igbos and not the ones that encountered Yoruba in Ile ife (Igbo omoku).


[b]Funfact- Yoruba is a very recent language and culture which has no place at the table of the elders where- IGBO, Igala, IDU and jukun will sit

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Juliusmalema:
While I acknowledged TAO11 was talking trash but this is another load of a higher trash.

Igbos are not so stupid to believe in useless fabrications.


You called obatala and it sounds igbo to your own meaning and you are regurgitating nonsense.

Education is a waste in Nigeria.

I remember so very vividly when Ooni of Ife referenced the obatala nonsense to igbo but was immediately cautioned by well seasoned scholars who are sound in learning.

While they acknowledge obatala might means something in igbo, they clearly told Ooni that there was no shared history and obatala as a Yoruba word has its meaning and interpretation to the Yorubas and means nothing to an igbo man


Nairaland is full of pathetic and one book historians.


As far as this is concerned, the word and name has no meaning to an Igbo man and it is an outright nonsense for someone to even write this gibberish.

[/s] First of all you are not Igbo and know nothing of Igbo culture let alone history

Your modus operandi on Nairaland has been to isolate all Igbo groups from themselves by opening multiple accounts of Igbo states and attacking yourself like a schizophrenic rapid dog

You are on a loosing battle trust me.

samuk:
I believe the present Ooni of Ife actually stated that Igbo people were the original inhabitants of Ife. I know those without any link to Ife will argue this and even insult the Ooni.

The truth is not measured in mass appeal wether they agree with their ooni or not, the obi of Onitsha has stated it earlier than the ooni that a distinct Igbo group were the aborigines of ile-ife which they called igbo-omoku before yoruba people broke away from igala in Kogi state

The modern day ugbo/ilaje people(who were themselves of Igbo stock) tell of their earliest leader called "Ekenwa" please someone should tell me what "Ekenwa" means in Yoruba with no ambiguous stories as usual

TAO11:
That religious belief is not necessarily a presentation of history, dullard!

In other words, the south eastern-Igbos are not necessarily historically descended from Ife just as the Chinese aren't necessarily historically descended from Ife.

That you need this to be broken down to you is very telling. How old are you? LMAO!

Ile ife(Igbo omoku) was originally an Igbo settlement inhabited by an Igbo group distinct from today's south easterners

Wether you like this fact or not take it up with your ooni who wouldn't stop talking about it lately

macof:
I don't understand if you are just born foolish or you grew into it?

Ugbo (Ilaje) is Igbo? Is this how desperate for igbo history you are? It is nobody's fault that you lot have just about no records of events of your past. Always seeking to attach yourself to other people who have history


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdtMSrqQpNI

This sounds like igbo to you?

This one has been triggered

Nobody is attaching to you scums, ugbo people where originally of Igbo stock and no amount of your tears will change this fact

Omoyele sowore even made it clear recently that he isnt really yoruba

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TAO11:
Wonderful!

But to respond to this for the purpose of putting the information out there:

(1) I’m not sure who announced Igbo as the oldest tribe in Nigeria, what I’m sure about instead is that the oldest human bones found in the whole of West Africa comes from Yorubaland — Iwo-Eleru to be precise. It dates to circa 7,000 BCE.

(2) Moreover, at no point in ancient times did the Igbos rule over any Yoruba kingdom (i.e. including Benin kingdom) nor did the ancient Igbos even rule over one another.

(3) The Moremi episode actually has nothing to do with a group ruling over another group. It also has nothing to do with south-easterners of present-day Nigerians.

Rather, it relates to guerrilla raids on the ancient Ife city by disgruntled Ife residents who had been expelled to the forest (or igbo in Yoruba language).

While the Yoruba word for for “forest” coincides with the name of the south-eastern Nigeria ethnic group, I am not sure if this name also mean “forest” in the south-eastern language.

Moreover, the Moremi episode is conspicuously absent in the traditions of the Igbo people of south-eastern Nigeria.

Yet it is present in both the traditions of the Ife people as well as in the traditions of the Ugbo* people of which the Olugbo is king.

*”Ugbo” is an Eastern-Yoruba dialectal variation of the same word Igbo — Forest. The Ugbos trace their roots to a party of the expelled Ife residents.


(4) I would let the Binis here explain themselves as to whether or not Benin (in addition to sending to Ife) also send emissaries to Nri on the ascension of a new Benin king. LMAO!

In the meantime while we await the Binis to clarify whose servant they really are, see the two attachments below for some context.

Cheers!

Cc: Ideadoctor, gomojam, macof, RuggedSniper, googi, scholes0, Newton85, Balogunodua, babtoundey, reallest, nisai, DenreleDave, SaintBeehot, Amujale, Afam4eva, Ofunwa111, LegendHero, Barbilius, Juliusmalema, pazienza, Obalatule, ABULARdotCom

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Tao11 the pathological liar ....you have ressurected me by mentioning Igbos again in your unending stream of lies which I will thrash one after the other


( 1) Igbos remain the oldest Distinct group of people in modern day Nigeria with a history dating back to 6,000 years ago
The remains in Iwo eleru(which are not really human remains as you claimed) dates back to 43,000 years while yorubas only started settling the area around 12th century, how could this be the ancestors of Yoruba people?

Igbo people that spoke a language very closely related to modern igbo resided in Ile ife before yoruba started coming into the area from modern day Kogi state.

(2) Obatala who is the first Oba in Ile ife(Igbo omoku) is an Igbo priest, so clearly Igbos ruled yoruba in Igbo omoku (ask me for evidence)

Agreed the moremi episode has Little to do with modern day south Eastern Igbos but with a distinct Igbo group that inhabited ife(Igbo omoku) prior to yoruba arrival(s).

The moremi stories are absent in the history of South eastern Igbos today simply because it has nothing to do with them, the Igbos mentioned in the moremi story are now in ondo state as the ugbo people and they preserve alot of their Igbo traits till this day.


To anybody doubting the Igbo roots of ugbo people note that the most successful ruler of ugbo/igbo people while they where in ile Ife(Igbo omoku) is named "Ekenwa" ....how Igbo does that get?

cc Adadike

Yawa

Gabkosh:
I don't argue too much

i've passed this level

Find your fellow dimwitted adults to play in the sand with

Seerade029:
How would it pain me.
I haven't been to abia Anambra and Ebonyi.
But IMO and Enugu no follow at all.

If thats the case then Akure, Ado ekiti and the rest should be razed to the ground cos they are stuck in the 19th century

Seerade029:
Where did you see half kilometer?
You're not okay.

ibadan is 95% rotten slum stop lying to yourself

Seerade029:
Alaye, go and sleep in your owerri night club Abeq.

Elenuu runrun

E pain am!!

Seerade029:
Ibadan

Lol, even the indegines that has spent 45yrs in Ibadan don't know 60% of ibadan not to talk of a visitor.

This pictures are disgracing to say the least.......Even i have seen better pictures of ibadan stop!!

Cashsteady:
Lol trashy slums yet u people won't stop running away from ur Dubai to the slum... I stand with my point no se cities can stand any sw cities except enugu and onitsha..

Is it ebonyi with 95% slums? With only 2% of abakaliki developed or owerri with bad roads and ghettos everywhere

Here they go again with "running away"

We will go anywhere that offers new opportunities....hell the chinese are all over Africa....they must be running away from their country according to your logic

The SW is dead without lagos #fact

Seerade029:
Guy you're funny ooo.

This is ibadan

Just imagine the crap he wants to boast about.

ibadan is 3000square kilometre stop showing us fine compound and half kilometre street

95% of ibadan is rotten and needs to be burnt to the ground so bush can just grow in its place

Cashsteady:
I do believe in these aerial view nonsense must of u just search ibadan and Google and start calling it brown roofs and also claiming u have been to ibadan.. I repeat the nicer places in ibadan are far better than what u have in the east

I just told you i've been to ibadan and spent a reasonable amount of time.

Its a big rotten place......only few glitters of sanity and organisation in that massive brown roof slum

Cashsteady:
Lol make una dey decieve urself the only state in east I know that can beat ibadan in terms of beauty is enugu... Yh there are brown roofs and rusty buildings in ibadan abeokuta and akure.. but no city in yr SE can stand any of then except enugu and maybe onitsha

Rubbish talk

All your Sw cities are trashy slums thats why every yoruba person wants to die untop lagos matter.

Be proud of your papa land of ogbomosho my nigga

Cashsteady:
Have u been to ibadan before? There are places in ibadan that are 10 times beautiful than that shit u posted about anambra

Show us arial shots of ibadan city center lets see if its not 95% brown roofs

Cashsteady:
Have u been to ibadan before? There are places in ibadan that are 10 times beautiful than that shit u posted about anambra

Oh i been to ibadan and Akure and Abeokuta, same story....Old bungalows with rusty leaky roofs are the signature of yoruba dwellings dont act as if you dont know

OkutaNla:
Guy Lagos is already in Yorubaland. If Yorubas choose to concentrate all their best efforts on that one state in their region, it should be no concern of yours. What you ought to be concerned about is the fact that up till today, no single state in your entire region can remotely come to Lagos in any shape or form. Igbos should come together and also develop atleast one state to Lagos level if truly na una develop Lagos.

See your mouth like "yoruba best efforts"

Lazy agbero breeding tribe wants to be feeling fly, look at your ibadan regional capital....a cluttered mess of dilapidated structures

OkutaNla:
Guy Lagos is already in Yorubaland. If Yorubas choose to concentrate all their best efforts on that one state in their region, it should be no concern of yours. What you ought to be concerned about is the fact that up till today, no single state in your entire region can remotely come to Lagos in any shape or form. Igbos should come together and also develop atleast one state to Lagos level if truly na una develop Lagos.

Clown

Yoruba concentrated what where?

Lagos got where it is on the concentrated attention of the country on it as a capital territory, igbos being the major contributor, just few years that igbo started heeding the calls to bring things home the difference is already widely felt in the east

If lagos was left for yoruba people it will be on the same level or far worse than ibadan today

Dont be delusional

OkutaNla:
Smh. Are you not ashamed of yourself for saying that? Look, you can't give what you don't have. If igbos had the capacity to 'own' and develop the quality of infrastructure and real estate in Lagos, what's stopping them from replicating such in atleast one SE state? You people and your delusion of grandeur.

Why has no other "Lagos" appeard somewhere else in yorubaland then?

Edo people are now like the proverbial nwa Nza bird that challenged his god to a duel after a heavy meal


Etinosa1234 gather your Rag-tag team of Edo rabid rats and wait for me in one corner i'm coming