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CultureRe: Meet The Most Beautiful People In Africa by hmmph: 10:41am On Mar 29, 2016
AbzDore:
I think Hollywood purposely picked the most ugly somali to be an actor in that film (captain philip), mind you he did look like the actual pirate, and he too was ugly.though the average somali men are quite good looking compare to west africans like Nigerians, with big flat noses, curly hard hair and big huge lips like jay z grin grin
Hollywood selects beautiful ppl not ugly ones, y'all are just ugly full stop
CultureRe: Meet The Most Beautiful People In Africa by hmmph: 10:40am On Mar 29, 2016
Cpumping:
careful o, u r in a Nigerian forum. u dnt want to anger boys. grin

sha u can pass me one fine somalian fine girl. let follow n enjoy the beauty of ur country grin
Sellout
TravelRe: Is It Safe For Indian Like Me To Visit Nigeria by hmmph: 10:29am On Mar 29, 2016
IndianBwoy:
1) oh ok. I will look into the FFL then.

2) No no I was referring to Somali Pirates on the Gulf of Aden. Ah I see.

3)yes i get. But Im well versed in islam , I can speak Arabic and I have memorized parts of the Quran so I think I should be alright.

4)Ah I see. Is their villages and tribal cultural events? How is the Middle Belt region in terms of safety?


5)oh oh all right.
No it is not safe. You ppl kill tons of Africans in India so do you think an African country will be accommodating to you? I know ppl who will spit on you and maybe even harm you if set foot in that country
CelebritiesRe: The Darker Skinned Munachi Is More Beautiful (PHOTOS) by hmmph: 10:23am On Mar 29, 2016
MrCork:
...if only our nairaland females like Onstelly,Refiner an others can follow her footstep an change color to lightskin yellow.....this is what all men want..LIGHTSKIN FEMALES!!! cheesy
If you hate your disgusting, dumb brainless self do much, you bleach. In fact do like MJ and texturize your hair n have a bunch of plastic surgeries too bit don't ask beautiful women to bleach. I can just tell that you are ugly with low self esteem Foh
CelebritiesRe: The Darker Skinned Munachi Is More Beautiful (PHOTOS) by hmmph: 10:20am On Mar 29, 2016
MrCork:
...have u Eva dat lightskin female in yourrr live?...can you are Ford them?...so you even have job or moiney or have you been to London?..GOAT!! (No ofeense) undecided
Afford them? Oh so they are ho's? And yet you brag about associating with them. You are clearly a dummy
CelebritiesRe: The Darker Skinned Munachi Is More Beautiful (PHOTOS) by hmmph: 10:18am On Mar 29, 2016
MrCork:
...dakkskin female beaauriful how?....bro they don't sell glassses there in that nigeria OR do you were Sun shade at night? (No ofeense) undecided
Poor slave. Inferior complexity is a disease in Africa that should be treated. Keep fantasizing about your slave master's women
CelebritiesRe: The Darker Skinned Munachi Is More Beautiful (PHOTOS) by hmmph: 10:15am On Mar 29, 2016
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kachnov:
People who bleach have low self esteem
True
CelebritiesRe: The Darker Skinned Munachi Is More Beautiful (PHOTOS) by hmmph: 10:14am On Mar 29, 2016
tpiar:
Only Africans have the power to decide which hue they want to be.
No only a Scientist in a lab can decide that. Your inferior complexed stay bleaching and think that makes you beautiful when it actuality y'all just look worse
CultureRe: Black/white? by hmmph: 10:02am On Mar 29, 2016
SomaliGuy7:
YEMENIS ARE SEEKING REFUGEE IN SOMALIA.

OVER 70,000 YEMENIS HAVE CROSSED THE GULF OF ADEN IN SMALL BOATS TO GET TO SOMALIA

THERE ARE NOW IN MOGADISHU, SOMALIA.

SOMALI AND YEMENIS ARE BROTHERS.

YOU LOT NIGERIANS BANTU AKA NEGROIDS SHOULD MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32152698
Oh? How does it feel being a slave to your "brother"? Haha y'all keep claiming these Arabs and they keep rejecting you such a pity
CultureRe: Black/white? by hmmph: 10:00am On Mar 29, 2016
TruthHurts1:
Somalian sex slave in Saudi Arabia and the son she had for her Arabian master
She is Somali for sure look at all those supposedly beautiful Cushite features lmao
CultureRe: Black/white? by hmmph: 9:58am On Mar 29, 2016
Wulfruna:
First time I saw him, before I knew he was Somali, I thought he was a Caribbean black or something.
Naww he does look Somali
CultureRe: Horn Africans Are NOT BLACK by hmmph: 9:56am On Mar 29, 2016
SomaliGuy7:
LOL, we both know you guys can't compete with Somalis on beauty and that's why you want to claim us (Somali). If you honestly believe NEGROIDS with big noses and thick lips are good looking than why do your women (Nigerians) hide their natural self by wearing weaving and bleaching and having surgery to fix their nose and lips? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Scientist proves that BLACK NEGROIDS (bantu) are closely related to Apes!! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

You Nigerians are monkeys grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
For one, negroids are not related to apes but. EVERY race is dummy. Neanderthals aka white ppl are even more related to Apes. For two, Bantu ppl are mostly from the East, not so much in the West. Thirdly, those ppl are not Nigerians. Fourthly, Somalis are highly related to Aliens with your bulging eyes and gigantic foreheads. So I'd rather be related to apes and most pll would too than scary looking big headed aliens
CultureRe: Horn Africans Are NOT BLACK by hmmph: 9:51am On Mar 29, 2016
alanmwene:
What wrong with being related to monkeys?
Your claim for fame is to be arabs bastards,what is great about that?Isnt better to be related to monkeys than to pigs?Your arabs ancestors are known for being the biggest b@ttymen grin grin grin in the world and for bringing homosexuality and pedophilia to Africa on an industrial scale via their religion on top of being very friendly with female camelsgrin grin grin
Cut the bullsh*ts,nobody is claiming somalis cheesy cheesy You are a bunch of pathological attention-seekers that everybody despise for being lazy,free-loaders,stupid,etc..... grin grin grin How come every single race in the world hate zoomalis?
Agreed
RomanceRe: Somali Or Ethiopian Girls? by hmmph: 9:50am On Mar 29, 2016
Mogadishu7:
What girls do you prefer Somali or Ethiopian? smiley





Somali girls
None. Go make nonsense threads like this in Somalinet. Personally, I'd rather f*ck a dog
RomanceRe: Real Somalian Wedding! ♡♡♡♡♡ by hmmph: 9:39am On Mar 29, 2016
halfricanadian:
Na i just love somalians nd ethopian guys
You are so pathetic cos they refer to you and look at you as monkeys. Gosh, no wonder they feel superior, it is thanks to women like you
PoliticsRe: Only Igbos Can Save Nigeria by hmmph: 9:34am On Mar 29, 2016
xharder:
No, Blacks Aren't All Alike. Who Said They Were? By
Peter Frost

https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/CapandSkull-Robeson.jpg
In 1915, Paul Robeson became the third African American ever enrolled at Rutgers College, being one of four students selected for its Cap and Skull honor society. His father was of Igbo descent . Credit: Wikimedia Commons


Chanda Chisala has written another piece on IQ and African immigrants to the UK:

One of the biggest problems I had with the commenters were readers who apparently were only exposed to the statistical concept of Regression to the Mean from outside the IQ debate. [...]. The problem is not that the black immigrant children were not regressing to the point of equaling their source population mean IQ (that’s also not what hereditarians predict either), but that they were clearly not even moving (or being pulled) towards that extremely low IQ, as hereditarians predict.

The correct term is not “regression to the mean.” It’s “non-inheritance of acquired characteristics.” In other words, each person has a single genotype and a range of possible phenotypes. A culture can push its members to either limit of this range, thus creating a phenotype unlike that of other people with the same genetic endowment. But this phenotype has to be recreated with each succeeding generation. For instance, there used to be a Chinese custom of binding a girl’s foot to make it four inches long and of limited use for walking. When the custom was outlawed, the next generation of women had normal feet. The phenotype bounced back to its initial form, so to speak, much like an elastic band when you stop stretching it (see note 1).

Regression to the mean is something else. It happens because ofgenetic change. For instance, a man with above-average IQ will likely marry a woman with above-average IQ. But only part of their above-averageness is genetic. The rest is due to favorable circumstances. Or simply luck. So their children’s IQ will likely be a bit closer to the mean of the overall population. That second generation will in turn marry people with similar IQs. And their children will likewise be closer still to the population mean. Eventually, several generations later, the descendants of that original couple will have a mean IQ that matches the population mean.

That’s regression to the mean. It’s a multigenerational genetic change. It’s not what happens when genes stay constant and culture changes.

Chanda is really talking about what happens when a culture stops pushing people to excel. The phenotype reverts to its usual state and the pressure to excel comes only from within. This is a legitimate argument, and it may have great explanatory value. When people from certain cultures move to Western countries, the second and third generations do a lot worse than the first generation over many indicators—academic achievement, crime rates, family stability, etc. This is a frequent outcome when people move from an environment where behavior is tightly controlled by family and community to one where behavior is much more self-controlled.

Such social atomization is less toxic for people of Northwest European descent because they have adapted to it over a longer time. For at least the past millennium, they have had weaker kinship ties and stronger tendencies toward individualism than any other human population. This cultural environment has favored individuals who rely less on external means of behavior control and more on internal means, specifically guilt proneness and affective empathy (Frost, 2014).

But that isn’t Chanda’s argument. That’s the argument he attributes to something called “the HBD position.” In reality, there are at least three HBD positions:

1. African immigrants to the UK perform better than whites academically because they are a select group, either because they have elite backgrounds or because they tend to be more motivated than the people who stay behind.

2. African immigrants perform better than whites academically, but this academic performance is weakly linked to the heritable component of IQ, especially in modern Britain. Teachers tend to “over-reward” black students who satisfy basic requirements (regular attendance, assignments turned in on time, non-disruptive behavior, etc.). African parents also invest in private tutoring to improve exam results.

3. Most African immigrants perform worse than whites academically. Only certain African groups excel, notably the Igbo of Nigeria. Igbo excellence is due to their specific evolutionary history and cannot be generalized to all sub-Saharan Africans.

Are African immigrants better than the Africans left behind?

Chanda attacks the first argument, saying that the average African immigrant is very average:

I actually know that the average African immigrants to the UK from any nation or tribe are not from the African elite class, economically or intellectually (even if there is a small segment from the super-professional class)

He also points to the example of African American families. The children of middle-class and even upper-class African Americans do worse on IQ tests than the children of lower-class Euro-American families. So even if you select from the black elite, the next generation will still underperform whites.

One could counter that the African American middle class largely works for the government. In Africa, the middle class is more likely to be self-made men and women. Also, a selection effect may exist despite the averageness of most African immigrants to the UK. Even if most are average, it may be that fewer are below-average. Below a certain level of ability, many Africans may not bother to emigrate.

Fuerst (2014) has studied this question and found that black immigrants to the U.S. have a mean IQ that is one third of a standard deviation above the mean IQ of their home countries. So there is a selection effect. But it seems too weak to explain the difference in IQ—more than one standard deviation and possibly two—between African immigrants to the UK and Africans back home, unless one assumes that migration to the UK is a lot more selective than migration to the US.

What does the GCSE actually measure?

We now come to the second explanation. It is assumed in this debate that the GCSE (General Certificate of Secondary Education) is a good proxy for IQ, which in turn is a proxy for the heritable component of intelligence. Is this true? Or does the GCSE largely measure something that is culturally acquired rather than heritable? Perhaps something as simple as showing up for class, doing one’s assignments, or having a private tutor. This point is raised by one commenter:

[...] black Africans in London, even if poor and living in social housing, hire private tutors for their children. White British do not, especially the working class. This much better explains the GCSE results, a very tuition friendly test [...]

Furthermore, many African immigrants may be targeting those exams they can do best on and avoiding those they are less sure about:

[...] one needs to know how many children from each racial group take the exams. For example, the pass rate for Higher Mathematics is very high, not because the exams are easy, but because they are hard, and frighten off most applicants.

Interestingly, Chanda replies to this GCSE skepticism by pointing out that the same “Nigerians” (Igbos) who do well on the GCSE also do well in Nigeria:

For example, the subgroups within the Nigerian group that are the best in Nigeria or even in the US etc are also the best on the GCSEs. Also, the Traveller white (or whatever precise race) groups are placed by the GCSEs exactly where you would expect to find them.

The Igbo factor

This brings us to the third explanation. It’s the one I favor, although the other two probably play a role. African excellence in the UK seems largely driven by a single high-performing people: the Igbo of southeastern Nigeria. Let’s begin with the example of Harold Ekeh, whom Chanda describes in glowing terms:

Harold Ekeh showing off his acceptance letters to all 8 Ivy League Schools. He was born in Nigeria and migrated with his parents at age 8.

Ekeh is an Igbo name, and the Igbo (formerly known as Ibo) have a long history of academic success within Nigeria (Frost, 2015). Chanda himself referred to this success in his first article:

The superior Igbo achievement on GCSEs is not new and has been noted in studies that came before the recent media discovery of African performance. A 2007 report on “case study” model schools in Lambeth also included a rare disclosure of specified Igbo performance (recorded as Ibo in the table below) and it confirms that Igbos have been performing exceptionally well for a long time (5 + A*-C GCSEs); in fact, it is difficult to find a time when they ever performed below British whites. (Chisala, 2015a)

This superior achievement was widely known in Nigeria by the time of independence:

All over Nigeria, Ibos filled urban jobs at every level far out of proportion to their numbers, as laborers and domestic servants, as bureaucrats, corporate managers, and technicians. Two-thirds of the senior jobs in the Nigerian Railway Corporation were held by Ibos. Three-quarters of Nigeria’s diplomats came from the Eastern Region. So did almost half of the 4,500 students graduating from Nigerian universities in 1966. The Ibos became known as the “Jews of Africa,” despised—and envied—for their achievements and acquisitiveness. (Baker, 1980)

The term “Jews of Africa” recurs often in the literature. Henry Kissinger used it back in the 1960s:

The Ibos are the wandering Jews of West Africa — gifted, aggressive, Westernized; at best envied and resented, but mostly despised by the mass of their neighbors in the Federation.(Kissinger, 1969)

To what degree is African success Igbo success? If we go back to Chanda’s first article, we see that high African achievers are overwhelmingly “Nigerians” (Chisala, 2015a). This is evident in a chart that lists mean % difference from the mean English GCSE score in 2010-2011 by ethnicity:

Nigerian: +21.8

Ghanaian: +5.5
Sierra Leone: +1.4
Somali: -23.7
Congolese: -35.3

Clearly, high academic achievement is due to something that is very much present in Nigeria, a little bit in Ghana, and not at all in Somalia and Congo. Could this something be the Igbo? The Igbo make up 18% of Nigeria’s population and form a large diaspora elsewhere in West Africa and farther afield. In fact, they seem to be disproportionately represented in overseas Nigerian communities, making up most of the Nigerian community in Japan and a large portion of China’s Nigerian community (Wikipedia, 2015). Statistics are unfortunately lacking for the UK.

Conclusion

What happens when we remove Igbo students from the GCSE results? How well do the other Africans do? To some degree, Chanda answered that question in his first article. African excellence seems to be overwhelmingly Igbo excellence.

So why doesn’t he speak of Igbo excellence? Probably because he assumes that all sub-Saharan Africans are fundamentally the same. Or maybe he assumes that all humans are fundamentally the same. Both assumptions are wrong, and neither can be construed as an “HBD position.”

We are all genetically different, even within our own families. So why the surprise that different African peoples are … different? The Igbo have for a long time specialized in a trading lifestyle that favors a certain mental toolkit: future time orientation; numeracy, and abstract reasoning. This is gene-culture coevolution. When circumstances push people to excel in a certain way, there will be selection for people who can naturally excel in that way, without the prodding of circumstances. And it doesn’t take eons of time for such evolution to work.

Will we hear more about the Igbo in this debate? Probably not. There is a strong desire, especially in the United Kingdom, to show that blacks are converging toward white norms of behavior, including academic performance. There is indeed some convergence, but almost all of it can be traced to the growing numbers of high-performing “Nigerians” (Igbos) and the growing numbers of biracial children (the census now has a mixed-race category, but most biracial people still self-identify as “black”). In the UK, 55% of Black Caribbean men and 40% of Black Caribbean women have a partner from another ethnic background. It’s very likely that half of all “black” children in the UK are at least half-white by ancestry (Platt, 2009, p. 7).

Nor is it likely that we’ll hear more about the Igbo from Chanda. As he sees it, the debate should be over. The academic excellence of Igbo students proves that the black/white IQ gap in the U.S. cannot have a genetic basis:

[It is not] a function of global racial evolution (Sub-Saharan African genes versus European genes), as most hereditarians believe, especially those who identify with the Human Biodiversity or HBD intellectual movement (generally known as “scientific racism” in academic circles, but we are avoiding such unkind terms).

Thank you, Chanda, for avoiding unkind terms. Well, I know a bit about HBD. The term was coined by Steve Sailer in the late 1990s for an email discussion group that included myself and various academics who may or may not want their names disclosed. It’s hard to generalize but we were all influenced by findings that genetic evolution didn’t slow down as cultural evolution speeded up in our species. In fact, the two seemed to feed into each other. This is why genetic evolution accelerated over 100-fold about 10,000 years ago when humans began to abandon hunting and gathering for farming, which in turn led to ever more diverse societies. Our ancestors thus adapted much more to their cultural environments than to their natural environments. These findings were already circulating within our discussion group before being written up in a paper by Hawks et al. (2007) and later in a book by Greg Cochran and Henry Harpending (2009).

Yes, previously it was thought that genetic evolution slowed to a crawl with the advent of culture. Therefore, groups like the Igbo couldn’t possibly differ genetically from other sub-Saharan Africans, at least not for anything culture-related. But that kind of thinking wasn’t HBD or even racialist. It was simply the old anthropological narrative, and it’s still accepted by many anthropologists, most of whom aren’t “scientific racists.”

Oh sorry, I forgot we promised to avoid that term.

Note
(1) Of course, if the cultural pressure is maintained long enough, there may be selection for individuals who naturally produce the new phenotype—with no prodding and pushing. Let’s suppose that foot binding had never been outlawed in China. Through chance mutations, some Chinese women might be born with tiny feet, and their descendants would become more and more numerous because of their better life prospects. So what began as a new phenotype could end up becoming a new genotype. Culture pushes the limits of phenotypic plasticity, and then favors genotypes that don’t have to be pushed. That’s gene-culture coevolution.

References

Baker, P.H. (1980). Lurching toward unity, The Wilson Quarterly,4, 70-80
http://archive.wilsonquarterly.com/sites/default/files/articles/WQ_VOL4_W_1980_Article_01_2.pdf

Chisala, C. (2015b). Closing the Black-White IQ gap debate. Part I,The Unz Review, October 5
http://www.unz.com/article/closing-the-black-white-iq-gap-debate-part-i/

Chisala, C. (2015a). The IQ gap is no longer a black and white issue, The Unz Review, June 25
http://www.unz.com/article/the-iq-gap-is-no-longer-a-black-and-white-issue/

Cochran, G. and H. Harpending. (2009). The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilizations Accelerated Human Evolution, Basic Books, New York.

Frost, P. (2015). The Jews of West Africa? Evo and Proud, July 4
http://www.unz.com/pfrost/the-jews-of-west-africa/

Frost, P. (2014). How universal is empathy? Evo and Proud, June 28
http://www.unz.com/pfrost/how-universal-is-empathy/

Fuerst, J. (2014). Ethnic/race differences in aptitude by generation in the United States: An exploratory meta-analysis, June 29, Open Differential Psychology
http://openpsych.net/ODP/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/U.S.-Ethnic-Race-Differences-in-Aptitude-by-Generation-An-Exploratory-Meta-analysis-John-Fuerst-2014-07262014FINAL.pdf

Hawks, J., E.T. Wang, G.M. Cochran, H.C. Harpending, and R.K. Moyzis. (2007). Recent acceleration of human adaptive evolution,Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (USA), 104, 20753-20758.
http://harpending.humanevo.utah.edu/Documents/accel_pnas_submit.pdf

Kissinger, H.A. (1969). Memorandum, January 28. U.S. Department of State Archive
http://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/nixon/e5/55258.htm

Platt, L. (2009). Ethnicity and family. Relationships within and between ethnic groups: An analysis using the Labour Force Survey. Equality and Human Rights Commission.
http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/documents/raceinbritain/ethnicity_and_family_report.pdf

Wikipedia (2015). Igbo people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_people

(Reprinted from Evo and Proud by permission of author or representative)


http://www.unz.com/pfrost/no-blacks-arent-all-alike-who-said-they-were
Yoruba ppl and ppl from Central Nigeria are smarterand more successful than Igbo. Those percentages don't mean jack because if you have like one or two good results and the rest average it still comes off as a high percentage and vice versa for two really bad results so percentages do lie. That so called African American did not gave a real Igbo father, he is just one of those Americans who like to claim Igbo or most times, Yoruba ancestry when it is nonsense as there is NP such thing as Igbo genes seeing ad Igbo is a LANGUAGE
CultureRe: How Do You Feel About Horn Africans (somalis/ethiopians/eritreans)? by hmmph: 9:22am On Mar 29, 2016
GeneralBiati:
u mean Hot africans,well they are half arabs and half blacks,but since they are half blacks,and despise their neighbours,like one racist somali guy i confronted on nl,but to tell you the truth,they are just neighbours and brothers,its this war syndrome,they have from their ancestorial parents or linage to you know wat i mean
What is so hot about them? So some are mixed with white / Ardb blood, foes that automatically make the hot? What kind of inferior, slave, ignorant thinking is that?
RomanceRe: African Cab Drivers Advices In My City by hmmph: 9:17am On Mar 29, 2016
EnlightenedSoul:
Hilarious grin
I reckon one can take an educated guess as to the dating tides of Ghanaian and Somali/Ethiopian women in your city based solely on the mutterings of their respective cabbie brethren.

I don't know any Ghanaian women to know of their supposed dating tendencies, but where I am, it does stand that a lot of us do tend to date mostly White guys. This is true in my circle of friends, and of pretty much almost everyone I know, and we've a theory of sorts on why this happens.

In a bid to foster a sense of community and identity here, our immigrant parents stress to us as children every time we see or meet any other child of our background that we're related. They relay to us, as children, the fiction that we're all one big family! "She's your cousin", and "He's your cousin". We're all cousins! We're all "wallaalo" (brothers and sisters).

This plan does work, and remarkably well, too. There really is a true sense of relation in the community. You'll likely introduce friends of your own background to others as your "cousin", or your "sister/brother" rather than as your friend as you do all your other friends of other backgrounds. Sure, you're not related, but you're more than mere "friends", you see. You're family. Blood.

Fast-forward to dating age and adulthood, the folks find that their children happily keep strong ties with their ethnic community and it's members, but decidedly avoid dating said members! To the abject horror of their folks, they're now actively dating other ethnic minorities, or, much more likely, the greater White majority. And if not that, they're struggling to maintain impossible long-distance relationships with partners of their ethnic background in other communities of faraway states, and, in some cases, even farther away lands.
The slave dates her rapist master, tut tut African women and men are so inferior complexed especially West Africans and South Africans. One thing you don't know it that, they really think of you as monkeys
RomanceRe: Between The Two, Who Should I Pick? (pic) by hmmph: 9:14am On Mar 29, 2016
Sunkyphil:
but they are lit skin
Smh inferior complexed mentality. No wonder many of these Horn of African ppl call y'all slaves
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 9:11am On Mar 29, 2016
AfricasSon:
Whats you said is true and remember if you actually look back in history the Middle East was and still partly is connected to Africa mainly the Sahara places such as Yemen,Saudi Arabia were inhabited in earlier times by peoples of Cushitic and Nilotic background also Cushites once inhabited whats now known as Iraq so they're everywhere keep the topic going and ignore the trolls who are trying to derail your thread.
What you are saying is pure B.S. Why do you Somali or Muslim ppl love to dream and make up stories from your dreams?
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 9:09am On Mar 29, 2016
Puntite:
why are you showing bantu people? or bantu mix people or hawiye?
even if they are somali you are showing war struck diseased people to make your case. hahaha oohh desperation.

here before the war pics
[img]http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=311393[/img]

https://i47.tinypic.com/2ebxx0y.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/10/a3/fb/10a3fb5dbaedc4c09713bb1112c559ba.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/cd1ecc56b3932ed7fc2e544898e17392/tumblr_myygmkdTYK1r9llg7o1_500.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/64/2e/55/642e55efe9c4651bc5b93fcda305dc08.jpg

Beautiful people!

now lets look at vintage negroes

https://lh5.ggpht.com/_ySCIT3KO9Zc/TVqYyt5Y49I/AAAAAAAARMg/3ymtUp1cszI/negro%20villages%20or%20negro%20zoo%2001%5B2%5D.jpg?imgmax=800


https://whiteafrican.com/wp-content/African%20Kids%20Children.jpg

https://eternitynessy8.blog.com/files/2011/09/Australopithecus-africanus.jpg

hahahaha
Actually the last picture looks more like white pppl especially in skin color dummy. Look at the lips and hair. It is just the skin color but obviouslyone can tell by their features that white people evolved from those ppl not Bantu or any black person. The fact is, the same way you posted.not too good looking Bantus is the same way that anyone can post ugly, big foreheaded, alien looking Somalis
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 9:00am On Mar 29, 2016
axum:
I am proud to be a Muslim, a religion that my people accepted because it was for them and not accepted by force. The role of Cushitic people in giving refuge to the Prophets companions was instrumental in the spread of Islam.

Meanwhile majority of Bantus are Christian, a religion spread by the people who enslaved them, and used the religion as the sole purpose of enslaving them because they thought you guys were subhuman. The people who did that to you now see your women walking around with wigs on their heads huh
Tons of Somalis wear weaves too and Ethiopians wear weaves too. Somalis were not originally Muslims but your dumb behinds like yo think ypi were even most of your culture is not hours but Middle Eastern at least Bantu ppl have their real, African culture not someone else's
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:57am On Mar 29, 2016
Maakhir:
Bro he means cushtic as in the family group not the linguistic group
There is no such thing. Cushite is a language group.
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:56am On Mar 29, 2016
Maakhir:
The people in West Africa, including Timbuktu were not Bantu
Lmao but his dumb ass claimed so and many Somalis claim this. The fact is Bantu language group speakers in the West but not as much. Most classified under the Bantu language group are in the East of Africa
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:54am On Mar 29, 2016
axum:
Do you know that Kush, was taken over by Axum for hundreds of years. The Cushitic people ruled what is Kush for hundreds of year even ruling parts of Southern Arabia, that whole area has our DNA meanwhile Bantus were in the jungle just looking at the stars grin
Pls if you Spmslis are descendants of those pppl you wouldn't have such low IQs and your Country wouldn't be on such shambles.Obviously you are nuts
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:50am On Mar 29, 2016
axum:
This is true, since they were controlled by the people of the Horn, so much so that they now look the same. Cushitic language is spoken in Southern Egypt and Northern Sudan.
How come you are related to Northern Sudanese ppl who intermixed with whites / Arabs but not South Sudanese who didn't? Lol you are so full of it
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:48am On Mar 29, 2016
axum:
You are confused and confusing two things. Cushitic is the language that was made up by some white guy to label the languages spoken by Somalis,Afar, Oromo etc.


the word Cush has ancient meaning that is to describe the people who live in Somalia,Ethiopia,Eritrea because of their common origin.
That is a lie. No one referred to them as Cush but rather ad black or maybe moors sometimes. But Cush, no that is not trur
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:46am On Mar 29, 2016
axum:
Cushitic langauge is separate from the People who are related who use to call themselves Cushitc as they have the same origin. Their are no Nubians in the pictures i post only ethiopians.


Also the language which is Cushitic family was only labeled 50 years ago. The afro asiatic family language was called Hamtic before that.

Cushitic is not only a language, it is also an identity that many of the people in the horn use to refer to themselves.

It is scientifically proven that all the people in the Horn are related, what is now Somalia was controlled by Abyssinia before Islam.
No wonder your dumb behind referred to Bantu as a people rather than a language. Cushite is a language group and the people who speak languages under this language group are termed Cishites. It us the same for Bantu language group and Nilotic language group, Dumb dumb
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:42am On Mar 29, 2016
axum:
Cushitic langauge is separate from the People who are related who use to call themselves Cushitc as they have the same origin. Their are no Nubians in the pictures i post only ethiopians.


Also the language which is Cushitic family was only labeled 50 years ago. The afro asiatic family language was called Hamtic before that.

Cushitic is not only a language, it is also an identity that many of the people in the horn use to refer to themselves.

It is scientifically proven that all the people in the Horn are related, what is now Somalia was controlled by Abyssinia before Islam.
No wonder your dumb behind referred to Bantu as a ppl not a language group, when it is in fact the latter. One thing you need to understand is, Cushite is not a group of people but a language group just like Bantu and Nilotic.
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:38am On Mar 29, 2016
axum:
HAHAHAHAHA grin
The guy must be kidding. I will take a West African or Banti woman any day over those ugly girls. Obviously to you, they are good looking but to everyone else, they are ugly or just average
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:30am On Mar 29, 2016
fijiano202:
Forget fiction...these people are beautiful.......even the ugly ones are beautiful
I wouldn't call black lip from smoking everything from weed to crack beautiful. Now would I call tired, worn out looking eyes beautiful. Absolutely nothing beautiful about this
CultureRe: Cushitic people the most beautiful people on Earth by hmmph: 8:05am On Mar 29, 2016
fijiano202:
Forget fiction...these people are beautiful.......even the ugly ones are beautiful
What is SK beautiful about tired looking eyes and black lips? I swear more than half if them smoke something from weed to crack and their bottom lips are usually black AF

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