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Literature › Re: Literature/Writing Section's "Chat Central!" by HumbledbYGrace(f): 11:32pm On Feb 04, 2013

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]I hate begging you lots for update. That is why I read only finished stories.[/color]

Eze u were female yesterday lol y?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 11:27pm On Feb 04, 2013

superbloke: Hello guys. How una dey?

If you are entering marriage as a christian, it must b done in the presence of God and there should be present a higher spiritual authority (an ordained pastor). Marriage in a magistrate court is legally binding, but not spiritually. It doesn't have to be in a church, but the presence of an ordained spiritual authority is required. If this takes place even during the court wedding, then it's ok.

I couldn't have said it better, thanks

And we r still under his grace alive and kicking

Literature › Re: Home at last by HumbledbYGrace(op): 11:02pm On Feb 04, 2013*

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 9:54pm On Feb 04, 2013

CFCfan: I think I've been humbled by grace. What I need now is some mercy.
Thereafter, Patience will be my virtue

good day to you too CFCFan

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 9:43pm On Feb 04, 2013

dagr8: If u dont learn from ur pastors ...am sorry stop going to church...and perhaps read ur Bible well...it means u never believed God set him over u...according to Eph 4:11, I cor 12:28...

Bt at least my answer was not Pastor says

hahaha u making me laugh I believ in my pastor to say the least or I would still be at home feeling sorry for myself but my pastor doesn't just set rules that suits himself dear. He knows he has a congregation, he has to sit down with the council before addressing issues like that. He is not a dictator tongue

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 9:38pm On Feb 04, 2013

dagr8: hmmmm...ok... where do i start from.. .i av become lazy typing dis days...

Honestly, i try as much as possible to stay away from arguments dis days...cos i av learnt and i was taught dat argument could be waste of time...after spending ur precious time, energy and after slapping each other...at d end both parties still ended up keeping/standing for their opinion....so i hop i am not arguing here( dat was why i emboldened "argument" in Uj's post dat i quoted)

let me start from Uj's question....personally i believe d "real" wedding takes place wen there is parental consent( Gen 24:1-67)...bt dey also need to place d union under God and receive His blessings..

Coming to the church tin....d Church is an authority wit Jesus as d Head and He SETS( Eph 4:11) representatives...if you want to place ur union under his authority and obtain his blessings you take ur vows in d church...(dis is not religion)...most people do dat as religion and dats where d problem is...in case u did not know Christianity is not a religion...

like in d case of dis couple in question, dey can go to d magistrate and do their tin...bt some cultures/rites/religion demands dem to want to do it in d church...

The Bible frowns at fornication...dis is a society where pre-marital sex is encouraged and some people will even tell u, i must know d sexuality of my husband b4 we are married( are all these Biblical)
Dis is not an issue of Holier dan thou like someone stated...
the way men insist on brides getting pregnant before they can walk down the aisle is alarming
A lady said she went to a catholic wedding and all the eight couples getting wedded on dat day were all pregnant...did dey all make mistake...obviously dey all deliberately divulge into fornication and follow unbiblical way to d process...dis people need to be discouraged and not to be covered...
THE CHURCH IS DISCOURAGING SUCH PRACTICES....nobody is saying u cant repent or God has condemn u. Anyone who has made the mistake of having sex outside of marriage can be forgiven

Some one may argue...wat abt dose who fornicate and yet dere is no pregnancy...obviously d Bible does not encourage dat too....
Someone said dis and i quote her...(not a christian)
"the same christians will preach no sex before marriage, yet their fornication is celebrated in the open church with blessings from the pastors and congregation!!!! a pregnant bride should marry according to her tradition and registry and wait till she has put to bed to receive a marriage blessing and not a church wedding with all the attendant flamboyance."

HBG i quote you
" It doesn't really matter if your nine months pregnant, the reason that your saying it at the presence of God means a lot."...*disapponted*
my dear 1 cor 6:18 ..so it matters..it doesnt speak well...In the Bible days nobody is encouraging dat and nobody is saying it doesnt matter...
Sex before marriage has become so commonplace in our society, even to the point of being expected, that many professing Christians don't even consider it to be a sin.
We all av made mistakes in d past bt dis tins need to be discouraged and corrected

AM NOT HEARING DIS FOR THE FIRST TIME abeg..

*clears throat*

Dagr8 dear my argument wasn't based on fornication as you put it!!! I was defending the case where a lady and the guy signed the papers at the magistrate court before she even got pregnant and later they want to make it official because we both know that a white wedding is expensive. Is there a problem when they want to get married but they can't affort the show pooper of a white wedding? Sex before marriage is a sin but after the magistrate court wedding is it still a sin?

I wonder!

U too dey fall my hand dear

Literature › Re: Nairaland Detection Club by HumbledbYGrace(f): 9:29pm On Feb 04, 2013

[quote author=Larry-Sun]Okay guys, these are the names of the current writers (as listed above) and what chapter each person shall be writing, including the date they are expected to update.

Larry Sun: Chapter One (February 8, 2013)

HumbledbYGrace: Chapter Six (March 15, 2013)

Any member is free to swap with another, provided the other member agrees to be swapped, and the other members are aware of that. Swapping is only allowed at least a week before the originally expected post so that necessary changes can be made beforehand and the innocent audience are informed of the change(s).

Thanks all,

God be with us.[/quote] grin

see the gap between the first chapter and chapter six cheesy

a month and 2weeks of freedom

Thanks larry

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 8:03pm On Feb 04, 2013

san001: First thing this morning, the thought about Balaam and the talking donkey came to myhead. And all I could do is google wot verse I can read this details, Number 22-24. Quite fascinating & suits my soul. Could this be holy spirit talking to me, certainly this isn't d first tym.

It beats me

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 5:24pm On Feb 04, 2013

musKeeto: lol... both of us on the same page, i'm scared now...

It doesn't happen often lol

Relax we r way over last year

dagr8: lol...
kai! iam coming back...my head is scatter wit pips and currencies rite now.....

Can't wait...and please don't go like

"My pastor says or believes it should be done this way" but rather say "In the book of ..., the Lord said this and that agaisnt such an act"

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 5:12pm On Feb 04, 2013

grace5:
Brethren :
Stay connected with people that make your baby (vision/dream/purpose)
leap on the inside modern day Elisabeth and Mary!!!
It's time to disconnect from the modern day King Herod's, and abortionist!!!

And ladies should stay with Mordern day Joseph who flew away from sin and waited on the Lord to fulfill his purpose for his life.

He didn't jump to bed with thee hot wife *(^«»^)*

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 5:04pm On Feb 04, 2013

musKeeto: RCCG boy

Well, considering that one of my cousins suffered the same fate some years back (yeah, RCCG), I feel I should have a say on this.

Different churches, different rules. The fact a church/pastor do not agree with your marriage doesn't mean God rejects it too. The problem with modern Xtianity (well, most of it) is when people replace 'GOD' with men/institutions. Can anyone honestly tell me the only marriage God accepts is white marriage?

Where does white wedding come from?

Some churches really suprise me, I wonder if, if its the word of God or their own rules. I thought the church should reflect Jesus Christ or m wrong?

There was a ceremony back in 2010 at my church, where all the women who did it traditionally/and those who were not even married but were abducted by men and forced into marriage said the 'I do's' at God's side. It doesn't really matter if your nine months pregnant, the reason that your saying it at the presense of God means a lot.

Holier than thou again tongue

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 8:28am On Feb 04, 2013

ARareGem: Good morning, sleepy folks!

BTW, how many of us pray mostly at night and less in the morning?

Good morning dear...I guess I fall in that category

Morning house

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 9:26pm On Feb 03, 2013

Timmy Track: sorry dear I know nothing about that

Pls I need someone to give me the photo specification for uploading my passport into the federal civil service .

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 9:24pm On Feb 03, 2013

sigmundfreud: But really...its a nice thread.

thanks welcome brother Sigmundfreud

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 5:40pm On Feb 03, 2013

sigmundfreud: Halleluyah should be the 'Hello' here I guess...

smh hi to u too

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 4:22pm On Feb 03, 2013

prairie: ofcourse I am, u shuld b d last person asking this or dnt u fink we need more of this?

The reason I opened this one was because I felt the need for it.

It wasn't my idea pe say though...the way u put ur questions indicated that you were not satisfied that's y I asked why u were bothered or did I read between the lines?

M sorry if I did.

Sports › Re: Ivory Coast Vs Nigeria - AFCON 2013 - (1 - 2) - On 3rd February 2013 by HumbledbYGrace(f): 4:11pm On Feb 03, 2013

Let us southerners watch in silence...comments reserved for later in the evening kiss

Sports › Re: Ivory Coast Vs Nigeria - AFCON 2013 - (1 - 2) - On 3rd February 2013 by HumbledbYGrace(f): 3:56pm On Feb 03, 2013

CFCfan: The stadium is not up to 20% full

We are out what do u expect huh

We can't leave our comfy 16 inches flat screens in this weather to support errrrm...u know

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 3:49pm On Feb 03, 2013

prairie: mod y is dis d only christian thread on fp, pls have a rethink, its SUNDAY for chrissakes!!!

why are u bothered?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 3:48pm On Feb 03, 2013

An0nimus: Hi Sunbellar

Well spoken HBG..

What's for sunday afternoon? M on football lol SE is playing grin

Literature › Re: The Book Discussion Club (africa) by HumbledbYGrace(f): 3:44pm On Feb 03, 2013

This is something I can relate to, Lin's mother is right on point. Most people forget whothey really are when they go abroad.

We forget our culture, our lives are transformed by other tribes. For instance in south Africa Zulu's are the most influential people to ever grace the shores of that country. They don't speak english that much, not that they don't know it but because they honor their language.

Back to the book, Lin too is just under peer pressure because a grown up would never try to act american to please a man. In the 'things around your neck' the lady was very cautious of how people treat her, how her boyfriend treated her and how she valued her own Nationality.

I have heard how one can let her/his name define them or define the name, Lin found her full name embrassing because of the change, because of the people she was around though her mother tried to raise her in a perfect African way.

That boy Matt was just a 'No' the moment I came across the like where Lin said he liked the siver in his ears like really? Then he unhooked her bra with one hand huh

She let him do that huh

With her mother in the house huh

What a nerve...bbl

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 3:07pm On Feb 03, 2013

The pressure upon some Christians to become "born-again virgins" is likely due in large part to the fear of condemnation from Christian brothers and sisters, or perhaps fear that God will not accept them unless they take steps to become “born-again virgins.” Neither of these reasons should be a concern because God offers forgiveness and grace to all who ask with a sincere heart (1 John 1:9). We need not try to restore for ourselves what God has already restored in us spiritually.

The Bible says that when we are born again, we are new creations, our old selves are dead and gone, and we have new life given to us by the Holy Spirit of God (2 Corinthians 5:17). This means that God chooses to no longer remember our past transgressions (Jeremiah 31:34), including losing virginity before marriage. Our sins are as far away from us as the east is from the west (Psalm 103:12). There is absolutely no doubt that God will forgive sex before marriage. God’s love for a person is not diminished because of the mistakes that person has made.

However, though our sins are no longer counted against us, they are still very real and still carry with them earthly consequences. Once an act is done, it's done. It is, therefore, not possible to claim physical born-again virginity, just as it is not possible to reverse the consequences of any other sins we commit. What we can be done with, though, are the guilt feelings associated with having had premarital sex. This kind of guilt can cause us to doubt the power of God’s forgiveness because we can't forgive ourselves. We can be tyrannized by our emotions and feel we are too bad to be forgiven. There are several reasons for this. First, the conscience speaks against forgiveness. The only thing our conscience knows about is guilt and conviction. It knows nothing of grace and mercy. Second, Satan is the “accuser of the brethren” (Revelation 12:10), and he will do all he can to obscure the love and graciousness of God. But Satan is a liar and the father of lies (John 8:44). Once we recognize that it’s to his advantage to keep us incapacitated and immobilized by our guilt feelings, we can reject his lies, cling to the promises of Scripture, truly believe that we have died to sin, and begin to live for God in Christ (Romans 6:11).

Consider the apostle Paul—consumed with rage against Christ and “breathing out murderous threats against the Lord's disciples” (Acts 9:1), full of blasphemy and ungodliness, yet God forgave him and made Paul His chosen vessel to preach the Gospel to the whole world. Notice that God never required Paul to become a born-again anything other than a born-again believer in Jesus Christ. Paul goes on to tell us that although some of us were sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexual offenders, thieves, greedy, drunkards, slanderers, and swindlers (1 Corinthians 6:9-12), yet through the infinite goodness and free grace of God, we are washed from the filth and guilt of our sins, justified by the righteousness of Christ, sanctified by the Spirit of Christ, and decked and adorned with the precious grace of Christ, holy and perfect in the sight of God. Knowing this, how can we possibly hold onto our guilty feelings?

Rather than seeking born-again virginity, a Christian who has made the mistake of sex before marriage should commit himself/herself to God and to abstaining from sexual intercourse until marriage. Claiming born-again virginity is not biblical. Believing wholeheartedly in God’s total forgiveness and making the choice to live righteously and in ways that are pleasing to Him—that is biblical.

#Recommended source 'why true love waits' (Josh McDowell.)

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 2:47pm On Feb 03, 2013*

An0nimus: 2Cor 5:17 "...if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold all things are become new"

Phillipians 3:13 "...but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before"

wish i could xplain more but i trust the Spirit to do so and even much more

@all hi there people! I troway salute o
~modified~

let me expalain it further if I can

Imma try but before I do that I need to address a smallanyana issue.....Instead of liking people's word of encouragement just add, elaborate or discuss further.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 2:41pm On Feb 03, 2013

ckkris: Born again is strickly a NT phenomenon.
Please is there any NT requirement for virginity?

what is NT?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 12:56pm On Feb 03, 2013

Born-again virginity is the claim that after having sex, a person can be restored to virginity by a spiritual renewal, vowing sexual purity until marriage and asking God for forgiveness

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 11:10am On Feb 03, 2013

Morning guys...'Skeeto SE is playing and your so quiet why?

@ house there is a hot question I need to address

"Is born again virginity possible?"

I just need all your point of views and bible references in possible

Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by HumbledbYGrace(op): 10:43am On Feb 03, 2013

Havilah93: in church

on Nairaland?

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