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Brendaniel:
o in conclusion what you are trying to say is that everyone in Nigeria that died from insecurity due to herdsmen, banditry and terrorism died because they were stupid, not smart or did not put in enough measures to protect their investment?

So the doctor who came from abroad to invest in farming in Ogun state that was killed was stupid or not smart?

The local farmers who have been killd all over Nigeria who don't have millions to high vigilante or put in security cameras were not smart or were stupid?

That Chief Olu Falae that was kidnapped in his farm, he was also not smart and was also stupid too?

I can go on and on...

What of those that were simply just traveling going about their business that were killed by Fulani herdsmen were they also stupid and not smart?

3 Obas of Yoruba land were killed by Fulani herdsmen in Yoruba land while doing their leadership work travelling, are you also trying to say that they were stupid and not smart?

Victims of kidnappings on the road are not the original topic .

The topic is based on farmers only and what should be done to prevent Fulani herdsmen atrocities.

The Obas are weak else no one will dare attack them and even if they're attacked ,their Oba friends ,people of the town they govern and their personal deterrents should have revenged .

No matter your status ,if Fulani herdsmen attacked you or your farm , you're stupid and weak . This is not to disparage the memory of Fulani herdsmen barbaric attacks victims but if you know you live among enemies ,the next thing for a wise man to do is to protect himself .

A farmer that can't hire vigilante ,buy gun ,form coalition with other farmers can poison his farm , spread animal dungs ,set trap and do other things he can think of to protect his assets .

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Brendaniel:
Go back and read my comment again, if you poison he farm to kill the cows, it means means the crops are now toxic and you have to destroy them yourself after killing the cows with it, if you don't understand something you ask questions.

How can you sell a poisoned crop to human beings, so you will destroy your whole investment because you want to kill cows?

See how you guys reason...

Are soldiers not a government body?

How can any person hire them for dirty work and you are comfortable with it ?

Look at way you guys reason now, is that how it is done Canada or UAE?

And you are not even ashamed to even say such, that is how much the government has failed to deliver good governance, it speaks volume on the kind of person you are, I still tell you again you are part of the problem why Africa is the way it is...


So in conclusion what you are trying to say is that everyone in Nigeria that died from insecurity due to herdsmen, banditry and terrorism died because they were stupid, not smart or did not put in enough measures to protect their investment?

So the doctor who came from abroad to invest in farming in Ogun state that was killed was stupid or not smart?

The local farmers who have been killd all over Nigeria who don't have millions to high vigilante or put in security cameras were not smart or were stupid?

That Chief Olu Falae that was kidnapped in his farm, he was also not smart and was also stupid too?

I can go on and on...

What of those that were simply just traveling going about their business that were killed by Fulani herdsmen were they also stupid and not smart?

3 Obas of Yoruba land were killed by Fulani herdsmen in Yoruba land while doing their leadership work travelling, are you also trying to say that they were stupid and not smart?

You need to check your knowledge box because a reasonable person knows that leaves are poisoned but not the tubers or cobs which will also be washed away by rainfall or have short time of potency . Another method used is animal dungs which is just to deter animals from eating it but not to kill them .

So you're saying that herdsmen hiring soldiers to beat up village head is legal but village head hiring soldiers to beat up herdsmen is illegal ? We all know hiring any armed forces is illegal but it's the reality we found ourselves. If anyone use armed forces to threaten you ,you too must use armed forces to retaliate. Simple as that .

Before you invest in any business or locality ,I believe a reasonable person must have done his or her survey to know what's on ground .

A friend invited me to invest in SE recently but I was reluctant because of several factors like insecurity and tribalism. Same happened when someone invited me to invest in Kaduna or when someone invited me to NE.
As a smart investor that won't want to lose his money or head ,I need to know what's on ground and if I have enough resources to protect my assets ,as a capitalist,I don't wait for any third person before I can do my thing .

Only an irresponsible person will not do anything because someone else doesn't do it for him .

And yes ,back to my initial comment ,it's people that become government, government don't fall from heaven . Therefore people are to be blamed for whatever policy the government made because it's people that become government.

Brendaniel:
So chemicals that killed cows would not also kill human beings and you want to sell the same crops to human beings?

See how you guys reason, the rest of your stuff is just trash...

You didn't even address the Issue of government taking sides with the herdsmen even up to flogging an Oba...

Read your while write up, you never held the government accountable for anything....

Ofcourse blame the people for everything and leave the government...

See how you guys reason....

The farmers that were killed in their farms were they not working harder or you feel you are better than them?

going by your logic ,the chemicals that kill weed should keep the crop as well and if it doesn't kill the crops then such crops are bad for your consumption .

No government support herdsmen ,they only support breaking down of order and yes there are many herdsmen languishing in jail or being forced to pay for damages.

In this country ,anybody can hire soldiers and even DSS to carry out their biddings ,if herdsmen hire soldiers to intimidate Obas then such Oba should hire DSS to intimidate herdsmen .

I've addressed most of the issues you raised ,it's either you're retarded or you just want to deflect and pass blame to others .

The farmers being attacked are hard worker but not smart worker ,it's common sense anywhere in the world that if you have investments,you need to protect it by any means necessary.

ariesbull:
Anambra is the only Igbo state courtesy of Onitsha in that group

what of Abia that got number 1?

Brendaniel:
You see why you don't sound quite realistic...
You are using a whole lot of assumptions.

1. So you will destroy your entire farm you spent money to invest just to kill cows that graze on your farm.

2. Do you know how much it will cost you to do wiring fence plus CCTV plus hiring vigilante to monitor your farm which is still not a guarantee that they will not attack as we have seen them kill vigilantes which were even protecting villages and farms, do you think about the investment in your farm and how much you will sell the produce? And you also think all farmers have that kind of money to invest in their farming and even if they do would that not raise the price of foods ?

3. You want to form vigilante groups which is good but it has proven not really work over time because so many villages and communities have done that and they still killed them and their people, if you need stories I can provide for you, even when a whole Amotekun that is sponsored with bigger allocations also have failed to curb them, also it has also be proven that when the military begins to find out that such vigilantes start to u have upper hand against the herdsmen, they come in and fight the villagers, there is even one they flogged the king of the village in Ogun state for fighting the herdsmen...


4. You said if you are the village head, what if you are not the village head, you think all farmers will have to be village heads to have a successful faming and also do you think village heads have not attempted what you are planning, why do you think army flogged the Oba?

5. You say the youths will buy weapons and take them to the settlements to dislodge them, was that not what Igboho was doing that the government went after him and killed his people and even jailed him in Benin republic?

Look at how you guys reason, ask yourself, is this what farmers are going through in other countries like USA Canada and so on just to produce food?

Do you even need to go through all these just produce food when the president can give just on executive order banning open grazing and all the security agencies will enforce it and farmers will farm in peace...

Look at the way you guys reason just to defend rubbish, and even going as far as insulting your fellow Africans just to defend nonsense leaders in power and their type of governance, like I said earlier it is people like you that contribute to why Africa is the way it is....


Is askng for good governance a crime ?

1) chemicals that kill animals don’t destroy plants .

2) solar cctv is around 150k ,it’s a long term investment and will be calculated with other capitals .
Vigilante will serve as deterrent as there will be directives not to engage but to call for back up ,even in developed countries like USA ,they still used vigilantes.

3) there’s difference between fighting and seeking media attention ,in as much as someone like Igboho acted bravely ,he seeks media validation more than the real job and he’s digressing to Yoruba nation ,which no FG will support. Amotekun wins is more than their losses.

4) I’ve stated earlier that it depends on my position and that position is only for if I’m the village head .
That soldiers escorted herdsmen to flog village head doesn’t mean the same soldiers won’t escort village heads to flog herdsmen ,it boils down to how much you’re willing to pay and the people you know .

5) Igboho wasn’t attacked because he was attacking Fulani herdsmen but because of his separatist tendencies.

if you consider reality insulting then you have a long way to go . Nigeria history for instance,if you can mention one thing that’s world class and it’s accepted globally in our history then I will agree that my initial comment is insulting .

In US ,they face different challenges as well and most farmers have guns. Today ,I still watched a video of a U.S. farmer using stick to destroy a drone sent by his neighbor to his farm.

My comments have not defended and government policies or praise politicians,I simply encourage people to work harder and smarter for their own good because no one is coming to save them ,if you think otherwise,you must be suffering from PTSD.

Brendaniel:
You see why I said you are not being true to yourself...

Let me ask you just one question, what would you do if Fulani herdsmen were eating up your farms and killing your relatives?

depending on my position in the village .

If I’m to protect myself alone ,I will apply chemicals to kill any animals that graze on my land ,or set traps everywhere that will injure any animal that graze on my farm .

If it’s a big farm ,I can do wire fence that can be electrified by night . I will mount cctv camera to see what’s going on in my farm ,I can hire vigilante to monitor the farm .

I can rally round other youths to form vigilante group if I don’t have the capacity to deploy second paragraph measures .

If I’m the village head ,it’s either I don’t have Fulani settlements around my village ,banish any Fulani that led his cattle ti graze on any farms or seize such cattle or make them pay fine .

If it turns ti ear ,all the youth will buy weapons and take the fight to their settlements and raze them.

Brendaniel:
You are still going round in circles, the government played major roles in supporting those companies in becoming what they are today, then for the basic amenities I mentioned how many has the Nigerian government even gotten right in its own responsibility as a government to provide those amenities or are you saying the private companies abroad provided all the basic amenities for themselves and the people?

You think if Ukraine was still at developing stage like Nigeria and they went into war the story will be the same?

Which circles ?

US for instance is a capitalist system like Nigeria and whatever support any capitalist got from the government is minimal compared to what he has done for himself .

Musk for instance didn't achieve his success because of government subsidies but that doesn't mean he doesn't enjoy US government policies,my point is that these policies were made by people like you and I that will go out there and become politician that become elected . Therefore the IQ of these leaders are gotten from a pool of citizens IQ and their policies are a responsibility of our reality .

Ukraine is still a developing country with bad economy and one of the lowest standard of living and GDP in Europe . This justify my point that most Nigerians will rather complain and pass blame rather than work . I can't imagine I live in a community where Fulani herdsmen are eating their farms and killing the villagers without doing anything to protect my assets but come online or to the news to cry always when there are many things to be done to beat them .

Brendaniel:
Firstly let me start with the basics, they have 24 hours light, they have good and better roads and accessibility for production and delivery process, they have more stable economy or why do you think different manufacturers have shut down in Nigeria of recent?

They also have better security to produce in cases like Agriculture , they don't have to bribe from check point to check point just to deliver their goods and raw materials, they don't have to produce their own power, they give them very high incentives as support ranging from finances, subsidies and so on.

This one below is just one if the benefits for Tesla, I can bring more if you need and even for other companies.

The rest of the things you wrote are all political issues and happens everywhere, even in Nigeria especially when the issue is not support of their national interest...

companies also enjoy subsidies in Nigeria ,same as grants and loans . Therefore we can’t consider this a special support only enjoy by foreign companies in their own countries.

The social amenities available in these foreign countries were made available by their leaders (not limited to governments alone) . For instance ,Faraday invented electricity,Ford invented diesel engine etc . These are what their government built on .

Also ,political leaders are gotten from the people ,while people like Washington chased out the British with guns ,our leaders like Awolowo chased out the British with pen .

Political issues happen everywhere in the world but each level has its own distinctive challenges and our challenges is that we are not doing enough in Nigeria and Africa as a whole and a lot of people that should work for the country greatness are running to another man’s land that was built by another man .

Security challenges is everywhere in the world and it’s not an excuse for people not to work ,Ukraine is at war but still selling grains to other countries including Nigeria .

HellVictorinho8:
Imagine how a so called human being is writing


Is dis not enough 2 regret joining nairaland

And dis thing wont even stop here

It will still rate its own unborn offspring as inferior b@stards 2 the white rubbishes and nonsenses





Spits

Mr man ,tackle post with intelligent data but not rambling like a he goat . The world is not filled with White and blacks .

HellVictorinho8:
So dis b@stard cant rate himself again

Omg ,I don’t even know you’re doing top 10 on nairaland. slowpoke .

anonimi:
If you are half as smart as you make out to be, won't you realise that my comments are my own standard of governance?
Why are you so empty yet making so much noise like a barrel

You’re not even smart at all to begin with ,cos you’ve not even posited any standards.

Brendaniel:
The question you should be asking is has any Nigerian tech company gotten the needed support from the government tech companies that rank top in the world gotten from their own government and still we still have tech companies still making waves internationally and breaking barriers even without such support like and Flutterwave and co...

It is still boils down to bad governance, all the questions you asked about other industries, what support has the Nigerian government given to all those industries like how the foreign ones in the top have gotten?

You people just talk anyhow to defend nonsense, even without the support Nigerians are still breaking barriers which you should even commend...

Look at how you reason...

Mr man ,which support did FB,Tesla,X,Microsoft and other big companies got from their government?

Are we not in the same world when news broke yesterday that Telegram founder was arrested in France despite fleeing Russia for attack from government,X fighting EU for censorship and Zuck coming out yesterday that he regretted working with US government for censorship?

Are we not in the same world that US government broke Rockefeller standard oil to pieces and now want to break google ?

Nigerian companies are trying but my point is ,which of them can become global brand ?

It’s only failures that blames others and bad governments for his failures ,also ,bad governments is the failures of our ancestors .

anonimi:
Did MLK come out to contest before getting American leaders-president and lawmakers-to pass the Civil Rights Act that makes it possible for mentally enslaved blacks like you to japa there in peace?

Politicians have a job and earn big pays and priviledges for it. What do you have against them doing their jobs

Because MLK didn’t contest doesn’t make him a follower,he’s a leader on his own right .

You can lead in any field,if you think you can do better than the standard we are maintaining,come out with your own standard .

Unlike you ,I don’t believe in japa . I only believe people like you are lazy that only blame leaders for their failures instead of going out there to work and if there’s no work ,create one .

Brendaniel:
It is because of people like you who join the few wicked leaders in cheating the rest of the people to get power.. Most of them are not voted by majority of the people.

Not a few exceptional immigrants, we are talking about a whole lot of people, I can show you videos of other countries praising Nigerians, in Africa alone which country dominates the music industry, movies industry and so on I mean on a global scale?

Just call a spade a spade, for you to even try to justify the kind of leadership we have here speaks volume on the kind of person you are...

Don’t be ridiculous,how many Nigerians tech companies are top 50 in the world ?

How many Nigerians are in top 50 Forbes list ?

How many Nigeria politicians are top 50 politicians in the world ?

How many local manufacturing companies do we have let alone being among top 50 brands in the world ?

What of musicians ,footballers ,scientists,academicians etc ?

Because you’re a one eyed king in your village doesn’t make you king of the world !

You better don’t deceive yourself and get back to drawing board .

Mention one leader in Nigeria that’s not wicked .

anonimi:
Don't leaders have a GREATER responsibility than the citizens from whom they receive so much pay & privileges?
What do you gain from making yourself an unquestioning & loyal slave to the leaders

You’re the slave waiting for your masters (politicians) to deliver you .

Successful people or countries don’t wait for others ,politicians countries to do something for them .

They look for what to do for others and their countries .

Leaders have higher responsibility but the best (in whatever form ) always become the leader . If you think you can do better than the leader chosen out of the pack ,come out and contest .

Brendaniel:
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You had to insult the whole of west Africa just to justify the rubbish the leaders you support are doing power...

To prove that what you wrote is mostly filled with lies, how come the same west Africans travel to foreign countries even the world powers and outdo them performing excellently better than those that are citizens of those countries?

Is it education, music, tech and so on even on menial jobs?

Just look at the way you think, other countries are busy praising our prowess, thinking and working ability, here you are talking down on your own people just to justify nonsense leadership supported by people like you..

People like you are the ones joining to keep Africa the way it is, when you will see the truth and support lies and evil

So leaders are not gotten from the people ?

A few exceptional emigrants doesn’t justify the collective local reality. Moreover ,there are exceptional people that stay in Nigeria that are doing great and also several emigrants that are doing bad .

If you have alternative data to west Africa IQ ,bring it out .

It’s fools like you that worship foreigners. I’m all for the improvement of my country Nigeria .


You want to say Atiku is smart because he’s a VP or Obi that failed his WAEC and had poor performance studying “just” philosophy or Tinubu that’s embellished with different scandals ? Are they all not from the citizens ?

No details given ,just ramblings.

bigpicture001:
How I wish that isreali pm, Netanyahu is Ukrainian President...I trust that one..he has no mercy or fear..

If u strike his restaurant, he will strike back Ur restaurant monster the number of casualty, he doesn't care, so long as u strike him first..

If u strike his hospital he reciprocates the strike back...zelensky is too diplomatic and following all the war rules...he is letting Putin kill his people while at he targets only military installations or refinery to cut Russian revenue from oil...

Putin is lucky

you must be a joke to compare Hamas power with Russia power .

If not for NATO pumping Ukraine and Russia holding back ,Ukraine would have been worse than Gaza .

According to regional IQ rating ,West Africa has the lowest IQ in the world , following by other African countries.

If we look back,our forefathers didn't have magnificent structure (except maybe Sudanese and Egyptian pyramids) that can rival other continents historical achievements,whether in technologies , agriculture, warfare ,civil development or education. Which means it's been long we have problems in Africa ,only failures blame colonisers for their woes .

The only solution to poverty and low standard of living is to work . Work harder ,work smarter .

UselessBuharist:
Mumu, haven’t you seen a photo where your Oni knelt down before HRH the Oba of Benin ?

bring am come out .

When Ooni of Ife wanted to go out for the first time ,all Yoruba Obas including Oba of Benin stood at their border to pay homage to him .

Also ,when I visited national museum of Benin ,Oranmiyan was listed there as the first Oba of Benin .

UselessBuharist:
Hahahaha you don prove your foolishness, you want make them sacrifice you inside palace?

What would a slave like you be doing in the royal palace of the Benin Kingdom?

You Mumu not be small ,your Oba is a descendant of my Ooni .


I took this picture when I was entering.

I’m sure you’ve not even been inside before ,I would have described a few things I saw . Mumu no go find food chop Dey bant who pass una .

UselessBuharist:
Lol you be real goat, which Edo State you dey talk about, your mumu dey smell Oga.


Just dey play

for you to know ,I even entered the palace .

UselessBuharist:
Lol I pity una, bro come to Edo State body go tell you we are not smiling this side bro. Whatever you call it, we nor get brown roof anymore.

You goat

I thought as much ,I've been to Edo State several times and I can tell you that after Bayelsa ,Na Edo State worst pass for development.

Also ,talking how una dey para with yahoo money ,I want you to know that being able to buy Benz and build a three bedroom flat is not Lekki standard .

That money is just new money and it's not enough to drink run in a night at club .

UselessBuharist:
Na we dey buy houses for Lekki, na una dey do driver for us.

Lol una nor dey shame ?

lol mumu .

Abi house girl and house boy . Mention two streets in Lekki named after south south people .

For the record ,I've been to all the states in South South except Bayelsa and I know how people live from hand to mouth there . It's only in Port Harcourt that I see people live well .

UselessBuharist:
Dem nor born you well that’s why you call chicken sikin

I’m from the South South, una dey dream see Igbo and dem dey give una serious nightmare

Ok south south ,a region blessed with resources but very slow . Una Dey do armed militias but dem don MEND una face finish . Work nor Dey sotey all una boys don turn yahoo and olosho finish .

UselessBuharist:
Abeokuta
Ijebuode


All the forest in the south west of Nigeria

If dem born you well ,Waka for east on Monday ,Waka for any night .

UselessBuharist:
Yes they also mine skulls

they have base in Okija shrine .

UselessBuharist:
Lol chest beater association of Nigeria

They know themselves . They call themselves developer and billionaires .

UselessBuharist:
Dey bark there. Bye I’ve more pressing issues to deal with boy

oh sorry ,are you crying already busybody deadwood ?

UselessBuharist:
Na you sabi, guilty conscience

Make una softly kpai una sef because of land for una region o .