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DonroxyII:
Without Need to Repeat myself So we wouldn't be moving in Circles ....

Your Maturities is defined by Your Underlying Philosophies which is Defined By Your Spiritualism(Whatever You Holds Dearest as Your "Religion" ... Mind You, some People's Spiritualism is Sciences & Techs .....

IFA You mentioned is just an Analytical Tool so You Can't say IFA doesn't do Bad Because Analytical Tool Like E.g Python Programming Can Be used to Analysed How to Destroy You or Construct You ....

IFA is a "Power-Tool" that can be wielded as Determined by the Wielder thus you can used it either for Good or for bad depending on Your Choices but Mind You Whatever Choice comes with its antecedents consequences

Now, as an African, You have a lesser "myopic usage" of IFA because most Wicked people including witches also consult IFA before they wrecks havoc with each groups validating their moves ....

Now, IFA is not Predominant to We Yorubas,
Orunmila brought IFA to Yoruba Race but IFA is as Old as Humanities Itself .... IFA is just a Means of Understanding what Nature is saying
& Consequences of Actions/Inactions .... Many believe It is the Voice of Eledumare(God)!

IFA is Universal but Mind You, IFA is as Ģood as the Maturities/Versatility of The Diviner That's why Babaalawo are much versed than One Another ....

So, if African are lesser versed in their Analytical Tools(Religion/Spiritual tools) compared to Other Worlds such as China, India, West ... Who would you blame

We are Responsible for our own woes ...This issues of crying they have scammed us must stop ...

Earth is a Jungle, we are all animals Only Few of us are Human ... That we ain't destroyed is just by Grace of God because there is nothing stopping them if they decided to Nuke You ...

Look at Isreal vs Hamas & The ICC ... Everyone would later have what is coming but you would have been destroyed before saying Jack.

The Way of Nature is That ... Get Up or Get Owned ...

An Antelope Blaming Lion is just wasting its time ... it should evolved to developed Teeths & Nails with larger bodies to Fight for itself if not ... Antelope is Nature's food for Lion on a Normal Diet ... Monday to Saturday & Twice on Sundays

Firstly science or tech is not spirituality because "spirit" deals with unseen or a realm that transcend human understanding. Science and Tech deal with fact or logic.

Also,religion is not defined by what you hold dearest but by concept of higher power , especially a God to worship .

You're right when you consider IFA as analytical tool but let me ask you a question,is Holy spirit also an analytical tool ? Is holy spirit capable of being used to do evil ?

IFA system is just a system to analyse nature as you've posited and to me it's not inferior to other religions analytical tool that's if even if they have one at all except we are talking non religious (tech ) tools .

As I've said earlier ,Africa did not lose the religious war based on its indigenous religion affiliation inferiority but they lost based on warfare inferiority complex.

The reality that Africans are not antelope but lion dressed in antelopes clothing makes people like me to engage fellow Africans in conscious awakening .

DonroxyII:
There is nothing like We vs They in The Larger scheme of Things ...

There is Just what works & what doesn't work

We are Voodoo Worshippers which is an emotional based religion trying to explain nature/Realities from Abracadabra Perspective....

It just a matter of time before everything would cast ... Today, Scientific-Facts is also submerging Abrahamaic Doctrines ....

It's normal Human Instincts to Queried The Realities & approaches towards conquering Realities ....

Abrahamaic Submerged Voodoo because Voodoo was less better & Today Science-Technologies is submerging Abrahamaic because people are bored with heaven-hell ..

Nevertheless, The Common Underlying Factor is "God" & How each approaches is trying to explain That "Conceptions" in Solving The Problem of Realities is What Differs ....

There is no we vs them ... we can all become Buddha tomorrow if China finally sets themselves here completely .... Many Trado-African Religion would Fight Buddha But Once Buddha Works, Trado-Africa would Fail in their Battles-Wars...

Is Buddha better than Voodoo Yes ... Because Buddha has Conquered Voodoo ... if Our Doctrines are advancedly better, we wouldn't be Conquered!

Moreover, It's normal human nature for better Doctrines to Conquered Lesser Ones !

Why can't Voodoo goes to China to Conquered Buddha....

we can't be crying everytime that we are robbed, Nobody rubs Africa than Africans !

It's always US vs THEM . That's how life works ,in duality ( Ying Yang).

It's not a matter of GOOD vs EVIL because these terms are all subjective to human philosophy .

If you say Abrahamic ideologies surpassed Afro centric religious ideologies and that's why they're conquered then why hasn't Abrahamic ideologies conquer Buddhism of China or Hinduism or India since these religions all have elements of idolatry ?

Voodoo is different from African religion ,for instance in Yoruba land ,we have IFA which Originated from Orunmila ,this character can be compared to Buddha because both character are enlightenment preacher .. IFA doesn't do bad and it's custodian is called Babalawo which gives solution to problems . They're different from Onisegun(Herbalist) which can either be good or bad as this is in all religions as well .

Africans did not lose because our traditional religions are inferior but because our warfare are inferior,those that came to conquer the land came with their religions and enforce it through different means like torture,gift,sponsorship,deception etc .

If our warfare are superior and war psychology is superior we will win ,mind you ,the British didn't extend their wings to Africa only but also to India and to China but they were chased out ....same as the Arabians that spread their beliefs through war .

DonroxyII:
Is Our Own Really that Good for Us

If You failed to Developed Your Own Others Would Give You Their Own...

If Your Own failed to Answer Realities Problems As Fair as Possible, Your People Would Go elsewhere for Answers...

It's nobody's Fault, It's just Nature

Is Our own not Brainwashing & Stockholm Syndrome(Loving something That Puts you in Perpetual Bondages Because You are Stucked)

To answer your questions,why is that Abrahamic believers believe that going to Tradinationlist is get rich quick if it doesn't work ? They know it works they simply consider it devilish or at least idolatry whereas they are guilty of the same ,like using water for miracle,climbing mountain for prayers or walking around a four corner stone .

That aside ,developed countries like the Asians are mostly not Abrahamic believers so how do you think they're not underdeveloped if their traditional practices are not holy ?

To me ,the answer is simple , we're a conquered race and that's why we must fight for what's ours .

sweetjohn:
To call you a fool is doing great injustice to fools. Israel is one of the largest export of agricultural product in the world. Israel is one of the top technological advanced country in the world. Israel is the 4th world largest economy and the number one in middle east. Though, this war impacted negatively on their economy but will bounce back after the war. Israel military is one of the most advanced military in the world. Israel is one of the most tourist place in the world, people in millions troop into Israel yearly for tourism and pilgilmage. Israel is one of the country leading in AI (artificial inteligent) in the world. Israel has one of the highest billionaires in the world. And you are saying barren. Guy go and check your terrorism brain bc its empty. It may be a desert just as Dubia, but unlike Dubia, God turned the soil to fertilizer to become one of the largest producers of agricultural products. Israel is blessed from all ramification of life.

It's only a "ful" that will write without paragraphs ,who's your teacher ? Are you not an embarrassment?

Check the list of countries with highest agricultural productivity,Nigeria sits at number 5 while Israel sits at number 76.



Is it your propaganda that makes them one of the largest exporter in the world ?

What technological advancements has Israel achieve that's making the world a better place ?

How can you say isreal is 4th largest economy in the world 😂😂😂😂 are you in your right senses at all or you're on drug and living in a fools paradise ... According to data ...they're number 28th on the world ...

And number 16th in middle East




Tourism in Isreal is fuelled by fools like you that consider JP title as something important but consider their own forefathers heritage as devilish ...even with tourism from fools like you ....Saudi Arabia (another location fuelled by brainwashing) surpassed Isreal and France without religious affiliation tops the world when it comes to tourism .

Israel military is nothing without USA and NATO and even Eastern alliance support .

Isreal is a desert land like the rest of the middle East countries and they're always at war (battleground for big boys like USA and Russia) .

You need to go to school.

EmekaBlue:
but this metro.. Only within the city

oh ok …thanks for the clarification.

It's exciting the last time I boarded the train to Kaduna but I was scared a little because of fear of banditry but there were several security personnel along the way. If the government can assure the people they're safe ,people will go for it .

okorogodwin4:
Ewu awusa

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Make Norway and Ireland recall their envoy too .


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omoredia:
Better. Arabs do not want peace

Israel sef no want peace .

okorogodwin4:
you be okuko Igbo na

Mumu

NOwazobia:
Now, tell me who you voted, or you didn't vote at all?


Do you also want the revolution you are talking about, or you are just using to score cheap points?

I didn't vote but I supported Buhari in preference to Atiku cos as a realist ,they're the only ones capable of winning .

His performance was not up to my expectations but I strongly believe that a time will come that Nigeria will make it .

I believe in Nigeria revolution but I believe more in individual (capitalism) revolution because anyone that will change the world will have to change himself .

NOwazobia:
I am sensing that you think I am from the East, far from it.


In 2015, I voted a very unpopular candidate, Sowore, even though I am not from his region.


Because we abuse the country, many of you think that we don't want the Country good.


Nigeria is irredeemable because we keep making same mistakes every election year.


But when something reoccur more than 3 times, it is no longer a mistake but a conscious sabotage, which could be termed witchcraft.


and if someone who is not possess with the spirit of backwardness is making backward and destructive choices, then it is safe to say such a person is curse.


..., and if such persons are in the majority, then such a country is cursed.


Goodnight

I do not think you're from southeast ,I'm only giving examples.

What's Sowore track record that gives you confidence he will do well ?

If the leaders are bad and you think Nigeria can't make it because of this ,why can't you step forward and volunteer to make it good by shaping it according to your vision ?

Someone is George Washington that led American revolution,someone is Lee Kuan Yew that led Singaporeans own ,someone is Thomas Sankara,someone is Nelson Mandela...they don't have two heads .

My first flight was dramatic too that I missed my flight by 1 min and had to pay a lot for reschedule .

I still get little excited anytime I fly now .

NOwazobia:
My use of gaslighting was rightly in place: avoiding what is wrong with your country by focusing on the wrongs of other countries by asking manipulative questions.



So, Atiku and Buhari were the only contestants of the last two elections right?


If the west are so worse than Nigeria in terms of corruption, why is your country miles back in growth and development that you even have to import the most basic thing.


Again, you are further validating my point of a cursed country through citizens like you who live in the moment without foresight, hence willing to sabotage elections by selling his vote.

well then you need more education in philosophy cos that's called tu quoque fallacy but not gaslighting. Moreover ,it's not that I'm not accepting the bad that happens in Nigeria,I'm only asking you which country in the world doesn't experience bad things .

You have no idea who I voted for during those elections and it's wrong of you to hastily jump into conclusion who I voted for . If I may ask ,who did you vote for in 2015 and 2019 ?

I'm not saying western countries or any other countries are not developed more than Nigeria , but still they experience bad things and their citizens complain everyday ,they complain in Canada ,UK ,US etc but they never consider their countries subpar or cursed like you do because you're suffering from inferiority complex.

How did you know I sold my vote ? Do you remember how Ikpeazu was sharing kerosene to get votes in Abia ? Do you think I'm one of them ? Do you think anyone that voted against the party you supported sold his or her vote but people that collected garri ,bread etc to vote your candidate didn't sell their votes ?

Labour party and the word "criminality"

sweetjohn:
Look at Israel look at your nonesense country Nigeria, now tell me, who truly is blessed and cursed. Blessing is written all over Israel such that even the blind can see it. Israel is God beloveth. It’s not hidden bro, you can even see it in your very eyes.

You mean a country that's barren and always at war is more blessed than Nigeria?

Your sight must be the sharpest .

NOwazobia:
You just validated my point that you guys are under the influence of a curse... voodoo.


Cause how else do you explain the gaslighting of comparing yourself with all the worse things wrong with the world, while avoiding to fix yourself with all the good things and development that is moving other countries forward.


It is a curse indeed.


Now you ask me how do I know that my candidate is not corrupt, but you voted Buhari a second time after he failed woefully the first time.


Now prove to me if that is not a mindless witchcraft.


Then you aggravated it by voting a known grifter nothing good attached to his name, and here we are as a people.


But somehow, you believed that your bad decisions (voluntarily and involuntarily) can make you be like the rest of the world.


Developed countries are constantly abused and attacked by their Citizens, evident from the media, even though your country cannot be 10% compared to these countries that their citizens also see their presidents and ministers as incompetent.


You see the difference: while the citizens of other countries set the bar very high for their leaders that growth and development is considered not enough,...


... you set the bar so low for your leaders that a token of 2000 naira as palliative is hailed as great development stride.


Nigeria is cursed by people like you.


Spits.

Do

guess you have to check the meaning of gaslighting before throwing it around like a baby .

Also ,if not that you lack comprehension ,no one is comparing Nigeria with all the bad things that's happening in other countries,the question was ,all the countries you called blessed,are they not experiencing bad things perhaps even worse than Nigeria you called curse ? And then ,another question is have you seen their citizens called their country cursed because of these bad occurrences? They only hold their leaders responsible but still pray for their country .

Corruption has level and a smart person will always choose the lesser evil when faced with two evils ,if you consider Atiku less corrupt than Buhari then you need to have your brain check .

Leaders are gotten from the citizens and it's evident you will be a bad leader if chosen because you're a bad citizen . You will be a curse to our nation because you're a cursed citizen .

Johncuppa:
AMP:And you shall say to Pharaoh, Thus says the Lord, Israel is My son, even My firstborn.


KJV:For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel,[/b]and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

[b]Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the Lord’s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors.

This is what I mean by religious brainwashing cos other religions like Islam for instance consider mecca the most glorious and blessed city in the world .

Also there are several records of where Israel was conquered,enslaved and chased out of their homeland . Are we going to say that God didn't honour his promise during these times ?

NSK4U:
Nonsense!!!

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fxexperts:
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Also talk to the idiots who are seeing Saudia Arabia as their only entrance to enjoy 72 virgins, including your useless president.

The bone of contention here is Israel,I don't care neither about Israel nor Saudi Arabia,both are looking for vassals .

Johncuppa:
Nigeria is not cursed, not enslaved and not barren. I never mentioned that anywhere.

Glad to hear !

Johncuppa:
That notwithstanding, changes not God's covenant with the nation of Israel.

Let me ask you a question ,in Yoruba myth for instance,they believe Ile -Ife is the origin of the world ,does that makes it true ?

Do you know how many "God" that exist from one origin to another and the covenant each God made with his people ? What make one suppose covenant more valid than other ?

If Israel lost ,the propaganda is that God is angry with Israel but if they win ,it will be that Gods covenant is at work .

When Israel enemies die,it will be that Israel God is strong but when Israel enemies win ,it will be God's anger .

That's to tell anyone that cares to listen that the only God of Israel is Israel resources and any country will continue to win if her resources are well harnessed .

Example is in the book of Judges where Israel(Israel God) were unable to conquer the people of the valley because they have chariot of Iron .

God is not partial and has no preference.

NairaMaster1:
How many times have you condemned the genocide the Islamic terrorists are committing in Nigeria?

does that makes Nigeria cursed ?
What about other terrorism like IPOB attacks ,cult clashes , kidnappings etc ? Have you condemned anyone of them ?

That aside ,which country doesn't experience that or something similar,do you know how many countries country like USA have invaded ,matched and plundered ? What of UK or Russia or Japan ,does that makes them a cursed country ?

NOwazobia:
Talking of Nigeria that is cursed.


Is it not obvious, every election year you vote in known crooks as if you guys are under the influence of some magical spells that you immediately throw your senses away after weeping for bad four years on the results of incompetent leaders.



That is almost like a voodoo.


You think if Israel was like your country battered and plundered under the influence of this level of corruption, they would have been able to developed to stand against their enemies in the middle east.


Your farmers can't even visit their farms because of insecurity that your military cannot contained for the past years.


Without mixing words, Nigeria is cursed, else, what is this rubbish that is happening every election year, and this degrading economy.

Which country doesn't experience corruption and bad occurrences in the world ?

Is it USA or Russia or China or which one ? Do you see their citizens calling their country cursed ?

Who becomes Nigeria leaders ? Is it not among the citizens ?

Why did Isreal lose their countries for several years if not for corruption and got restored by a supposed sinner king ? Or the so called USA that restored recently after WW2 ?

Why was their president killed in 95 if they're first in God's eyes ?

Why were they unable to conquer the people of the valley in the Bible ?

Are you saying Nigeria is cursed but your region is blessed and flowing with honey and milk ?

Are you saying the people you supported but didn't win is not corrupt and God chosen ?

Are you saying the food you're eating in your house is grown by ghost or imported ?

What's your contribution to make Nigeria a blessed nation ?

Johncuppa:
You can hate hearing that, but that doesn't change the reality. Israel is God's chosen.
And you can do nothing to reverse it.

God didn't choose your motherland ,it's a cursed and enslaved land . It's at the bottom barrel .

I only pity Africans that consider Israel apple in God's eyes but consider their own country cursed .

Talk of religious brainwashing and Stockholm syndrome .

There was a house I was living then ,the tenants used to repair the pumping machine except the tenants don’t want water because the landlord is not living there .he can post you till eternity .

Kailalomo:
He offended the person who thought you English.

grab the straw

Righteousness2:
They didnt offend me bro.
They Have gone to meet the ONE they offended.
It is out of Love, that we do our little bit to Warn Humans about going against their MAKER.

Look at the 3 guys below.
What do they have in common?

They all cursed ISRAEL.

They are all dead.

We who are alive, should note these things, and Ensure we dont cross our boundaries so we dont destroy ourselves.

when Israel president was killed in 1995 whose God did he offend .

imagrg:
True. But semi-literate government officials and illiterate politicians won't allow it to be.

we might have understated the intelligence of government officials.

Let me give you examples .
Cardoso was a successful financial expert before becoming CBN governor,same as Wale Edun .

Bosun Tijani for instance co-founded CChub which is versatile in Nigeria Tech industry .

SocialJustice:
They should allow enaira be the only way to convert crypto to naira. You will see a massive adoption of it.

Great idea ,that's how the Government can control crypto market and price manipulation

flyinnizam:
story story

What's story story there ? He simply shared his contribution which makes sense .

Mandesz:
NB.
It's Akure and not akugre.
That akugre sounds like south east or south south.
AKURE, ONDO STATE

perhaps a deliberate ploy to underreport Akure.

Nigeria should stop acting like they're the bottom barrel but respond accordingly.