₦airaland Forum

PrinceOfLagos:
Be deceiving yourself

you don’t have a reasonable argument.

Ofunaofu:
Who created the so called pecking order

Nature created the pecking order.

Many factors can be used to create an order ,factors like age ,wealth ,qualifications, time of resumption at work/first come first serve etc .

Aregbesola was rumored to be a tout/activist before Tinubu made him his commissioner of works and also backed him to win governorship . Tinubu is his boss .

Aregbesola wanted to become the president as well but he realized there’s a pecking order so he resorted to hate .

When you’re a leader of an organization you will realize how easily people can betray just to climb up . Even Judas betray Jesus .

I think your post is a parody of Jacob and the angel .

When the angel refuse to bless Jacob ,he even broke his leg but still refuse to let the angel go not until daybreak and he realized he had no other choice . Man nor be God and no one can cover the glory of the sun .

Lesson to young hustler : there are many people you will need their help to grow but they won’t support you based on one or two reasons but that doesn’t mean you should give up on your dream because the person you’re begging for money or endorsement today might not be able to tie your shoelace tomorrow if you succeed without him .

Drsnives:
Read in-between the lines bro..
Am not explaining nothing

You can’t defend your position. Osun state for instance was created in the same year of 1991 but before then they were part of Oyo state and they shared projects like LAUTECH but before Oyo state there was Oyo kingdom and several other kingdoms like Ijesha kingdoms in which their legacies have one way or the other impacted the modern states . So if you’re saying that Lagos was created long before Anambra state and therefore the development rate can’t be compared,what you’re saying is that Anambra state has no legacy before 1991 .

But some people are projecting PDP to win Sokoto na

hisexcellency34:
Who knows the name of this short, thick man wearing Asiwaju cap and bathroom slippers walking in front of as he returned from lesser Hajj?

They appear confident

Drsnives:
Old Anambra State was created in 1976 from part of East Central State, and its capital was Enugu. A further re-organisation in 1991 divided Anambra into two states, Anambra and Enugu. While TINUBU's Lagos was declared a colony on 5 March 1862. The remainder of modern-day Nigeria was seized in 1887, and when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria was established in 1914, Lagos became its capital, continuing as such after the country's independence from Britain in 1960 and some gullible will compare Lagos with Anambra of 1991. The comparison is diabolically wicked and only the gullible will believe that slogan Tinubu built Lagos.
*Copied*

are you saying that the region that preceded Anambra state didn’t have administration?

Bmaster:
it's straight win .
So,mbappe couldn't score PSG to victory last night without playing along with Messi and Neymar ?
And Tomorrow now,he will be trying to Rub shoulder with the Real Goat �?
Shame on him

Which kind odds you Dey play ,if you wan gamble ,gamble with your full chest na .

jude79:
In view of what you highlighted, I think obi was on point in his response to the pipeline question due to vested interest, investigations carried out over the years has shown that Individuals involved are part and parcel of the ruling class, it will be akin to placing the cart before the horse, if obi is to disclose their identify or the punishment to be meted out on them, since he's yet to win the president of Nigeria, he can't step on big toes for now.

In my understanding , what his follower is talking about is embedded systems to enhance productivity and surveillance . Even though I’m sure that neither Tinubu nor Atiku can also answer the question since it’s a technical operation and not their area of specialization ( presidents rely on aids and professionals to make technical decisions) . He could have just come clean by saying we will make some feasibility studies but if we assume that what you’re saying is correct ,the same reasons he doesn’t want to step on toes now is the same reasons he won’t want to step on toes when he becomes the president because there are people capable of frustrating a sitting president and even removing him from sit that are eating from Nigeria corruption . Remember he was once impeached as a governor.

If he doesn’t want to step on toes as a president,he will become a weak president because he will accept a lot of shit just to keep his position . Not to even talk about the same order he consider corrupt that are backing him for endorsement and himself running to them for same ,people like Eneche,Obj,Gumi,Okupe and other state men .

Civil war

Devil1Messenger:
So convenient for u to use the crisis in the east which is as a result of one of the failures of buhari led govt to properly manage crisis and harmonise the country as one using his power as the chief security officer of the country, but here u are again, using it to taunt Obi.
If not hatred for the East, the crisis there can not be equated to half of wat goes on in the North unreported everyday. U guys will keep quiet with the atrocities in the North and mock the SE with their crisis which for me is more of politically motivated.

How dare u even compare Obi to any of the candidates? We all know Obi is not a saint on a human level but where Atiku or Tinubu is, Obi is a white angel.

You couldn't even hide ur hatred for Obi and Anambra, just recently NDLEA discovered the biggest drug warehouse in africa ever, here in Lagos, not just once but on several occasions, but here you are directing it to Anambra again becos of ur hatred for Obi
When those drug warehouses was discovered and the drugs burnt same week, i wasn't even surprised when the Lagos landlord is a drug pusher

Abeg i wan go sleep

All the accusation u have made against Obi is actually for Tinubu. All ur replies and claim are all the many sins of Tinubu, from drug to tribalism to corruption to financing terrorism to lies and propagandas Etc
I don't just engage for engagement sake, i have done my home work and researches. And for somoeone like me that was born and brought up in Lagos, there is nothing about Tinubu u can tell me
There no way u will paint Tinubu for me
I know how lagos was before Tinubu era, during Tinubu era and after Tinubu era
Tinubu is the biggest thief and the most corrupt politicians alive in Nigeria
So guy goodnight

Yes it’s convenient to use East as a case study the same way I can make any region a case study depending on circumstances. There’s a time OPC were doing beyond their designated assignments in southwest and their wings were clipped by the elders but the IPOB has been ravaging without any elders clipping their wings . There’s little Buhari can do because even though you call him chief security officer ,when he brought army your people were shouting genocide not to also forget that you people didn’t vote for him a visible indication that you don’t want him and there’s nothing he would do that will look good in your eyes .

I’m not arguing wether Obi is cleaner than the rest but my point is that all the three leading candidates have their own allegations which you agree with so it’s self denial to consider one an angel because the beautiful ones are not yet born and all the three leading candidates belong to the same category,we’ve seen how LP members are mismanaging campaign mobilization funds let alone how they will manage Nigerias funds,another case study of animal farm. Even Obi was a vice to Atiku during last election and we all know that his defection to LP is for selfish reasons because he foresaw a failure against PDP power brokers . He’s been running from APGA to PDP and now LP ,an example of an unstable leader.

You and I both know that the easterners have the highest percentage of drug pushers in Nigeria,we see the news on front page everyday and the one that was discovered in Ikorodu Lagos is probably owned by an Igbo man .

Lagos exists before Tinubu but Tinubu’s impact is wonderful not to talk of how he single handedly built ACN from AD and form APC wrestling power from the incumbency and also has higher rate of Human Development Index compared to the other two candidates not to even talk about the quality and quantity of investments attracted to their states (or influenced to the country if we’re considering Atiku as a VP or private business owner ) .

Obi is a crook and his tenure will be worse than Jonathan if he won by chance . Here’s him being engaged by one of his followers recently but he failed woefully.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cm1gPV7jHmI/?igshid=MWI4MTIyMDE=

Devil1Messenger:

That hitler comparison should be directed to you guys
Its only wickedness that will make u see evil and try to paint it good
In all indices both national and internationally, Buhari administration has failed but APC supporters keep pushing useless narratives to defend it despite ths glaring failure. So thats the character of Hitler and for the fact the only reason you dont want Obi, is because he is an igbo man. You prefer a sick drug baron with baggages of corruption hanging on his neck because he is ur tribesmen

This funds was seized in 2004 and it didn't affect just Lagos state, why is Tinubu and his useless urchins always making a case out of it?
I have never seen or heard the then govs of kwara, ebonyi, katsina whose local govt funds were equally seized along side lagos local govt funds complain or cry on social media.
Tinubu was gov from 1999 to 2007 and the fund was seized in 2004. For the first 5yaers and the next 2years the funds wasn't seized, what was Tinubu doin with it?
U people are just fools
Funds was seized for just 6months out of 96months and here u are trying to deceive people to make it look like Tinubu never got allocation. it was even later released to Fashola govt
APC supporters are evils
See how u try to bend the whole story to fit your lies and propaganda
God will judge you people

let us “assume” that Buhari failed , Tinubu is not Buhari . You can say they are in the same party but that doesn’t mean that Tinubu has the power to make decisions for the president since his position as national leader is just ceremonial and can only influence but couldn’t make decisions for the president and if your memory serves you well ,you will remember how Buhari shut him out of his government and people like you were laughing at him for being used .

Calling people evil for supporting a position without an objection is the attribute of hitler ,like when he was killing the Jews because he considered them bad/inferior in his own right without an objection . If Obi becomes president,him and his Obi supporters will probably kill off other people that are not supporting them ,destroy their infrastructure like they did during the endsars and how they’re destroying the entire South East region . We can see posts on Social media and especially on nairaland where Obi supporters are calling for the death of Tinubu supporters and also a devils messenger praying that God will judge someone for supporting who he thinks is the best in a democratic country.

None of the three candidates is clean and my reason for supporting Tinubu is because of his performance, Atiku has his own allegations,same as Tinubu and same as Obi as well . Anambra is the capital of drug business in Nigeria and higher percentage of drug pushers are of Igbo extraction ,Obi has not explained how he could afford a million dollar property as a student ,his involvement with Panama tax haven banks using his daughter to launder money and investment of state money in personal business . He underfunded state parastatals and disbanded local vigilante which let loose of urchins in anambra ,doctors were on strike for 13 months and himself was impeached as a governor due to incompetence.

It does not matter the number of months OBJ withheld the state lga funds so far it was withheld and how do you expect the lga to survive for that period can you stop eating for a month and said that it’s nothing ? You might probably die off during that period . Wether it was released to fashola or not is inconsequential because if the lga has broken down during Tinubu’s tenure people will say that he failed and fashola will meet a lot of mess .

Let me tell you now ,the only reason I can consider Obi is because of tribe that he’s Igbo and no Igbo man has become the president of Nigeria but you see even his kinsmen like Arthur and Soludo which are both heavy weights don’t want him because of his incompetence and his delusion of self-grandeur.

We’ve seen 16years of PDP and we’ve only seen 8 years of APC but we’ve not seen their all . Some nicompoop and neophytes are only saying that we should give Obi chance because they want another person to do it without considering his level of sophistication. They just want to do what we call trial and error . This is Nigeria and not a laboratory for rat .

Devil1Messenger:
Again
Read very well
It is clear u dont have sense
Pls go and read and stop spreading lies and propaganda

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ripplesnigeria.com/fact-check-did-tinubu-receive-zero-allocation-as-governor/%3famp

as I’ve always said that all Obi supporters are gaslighters and they will be worse than hitler if given the chance to experiment with power .

Tinubu simply said he received zero lga allocation which is true

This is an article written in 2004 when it happened

https://allafrica.com/stories/200409090482.html

Lagos state lga expenditure was carried by the state government when it was denied which indirectly made it state money . You’re the one lacking sense because if local government is not functioning the state government will be pressurized with responsibilities and breakdown but Tinubu prevented that from happening by surviving without the funds and instead increased IGR astronomicallly . The seized funds is said to be about 30bn Naira .

The Devil always lie ,is unhappy with peoples successes and wants to break them down …you’re his number one messenger I hope the hell is not too hot for you ?

Devil1Messenger:
Tinubu has beaten OBJ before when the latter withheld state allocation of Lagos state just to pressurize the former to bend but he instead emerge stronger . Once beaten twice shy
That was exactly what u wrote which is very wrong
U people are just too useless
U lie for a living

If Nigeria is a working country, what is state govs business with local govt allocation?

When the lga fund was withheld,who Dey fund the lga ? Nor be Lagos state ?You Dey ment and you deserve to live in hell like your master .

Devil1Messenger:
Stop spreading misinformation

where’s the misinformation in my comment?

Devil1Messenger:
Why do you people like disgracing yourselves around?
Obasenjo never withheld Lagos allocation for once
Tinubu and the then ebonyi state gov created additional local govt council without due process and OBJ asked them to revert it.
The other gov did but tinubu refused, so OBJ withheld the allocation of the local govt councils which all were later paid to Fashola govt
Local govt allocation is different from state allocation, abi u think na small pikin you dey follow talk
Tinubu have been feeding you people with lies and propaganda and yet u support him at the detriment of ur future and dat of ur generations
Learn and free yourself

The funds still belong to Lagos state and was seized during BAT tenure so what are you saying ?

Devil1Messenger:
Which G5 uppercut?
Same G5 that have come out to debunk the lies that they have never endorsed anyone.
Are u sure u are this country?
I remembered when Tinubu went to OBJ to seek his blessings, immediately they came out of that meeting, speaker of house of rep. Gbajabiamila said OBJ has endorsed Tinubu and all the online urchins including keyamo was busy jubilating and spreading the lies until OBJ came out and said he never endorsed Tinubu, its the same OBJ that is now worthless
Dont worry G5 will announced on jan 5th that they have endorsed Obi, you will still have a narrative to paint them inconsequential not minding u have once praised them
That is just how useless APC supporters are.
Same people that were praising OBJ yesterday.
February is next month

Tinubu has beaten OBJ before when the latter withheld state allocation of Lagos state just to pressurize the former to bend but he instead emerge stronger . Once beaten twice shy .

Anyiamaka:
It is pointless having an exchange with you. You are an adult you have a right to support any candidate in any party. You also have a right to be stupid.

As I’ve said earlier ,most of you Obi supporters can not have intellectual discussion but always descend so low like pig that bath in mud . You only know nsogbu nsogbu politics and very away far from wisdom ,that’s why you will be beaten blue black over an over again

Devil1Messenger:
How convenient for you to deliberately omited that he supported same Buhari in 2015 and Buhari won
He supported GEJ in 2011 and GEJ won
He supported yaradua in 2007 and he won.
In 2019, he never came out to endorsed Atiku
Atiku came to plead with him and he said he forgave him. OBJ of all people will never tell Nigerians to vote Atiku for presidency
Stop trying to console yourself
Read through the points he made and not just the headline

It’s true that he supported Buhari in 2015 and he won but when he withdrew his support in 2019 and also wrote a lengthy letters like he did in 2014 or so ,Buhari won without him which means that his support is inconsequential or that his influence has waned.

It’s people that support Obi that are consoling themselves with ObJ endorsement after G5 uppercut which still makes their jaw to bleed .

Anyiamaka:
Your reasoning is parochial and myopic. We are discussing Nigeria in the context of who will best fix our country and you are subtly shading Obasanjo. Tinubu does not and cannot threaten Obasanjo's legacies. Tinubu is a great man but OBJ is a great institution.

Most of you Obi supporters like to gaslight . I simply gave two reasons why Obj might not want to support Tinubu ,instead of you to respond like someone that’s educated and can counter my position with an objective reason ,you resort to insults which is the flagship trademark of Obi supporters .

If you’re talking about someone that can fix Nigeria ,is the answer Obi ?or can his antecedents be compared to that of Tinubu’s in terms of fixing something?

There’s a video online yesterday where one Of his followers asked him questions about fixing Nigeria pipeline to prevent oil theft and increase productivity. His response that he will give him his number and discuss the matter with him behind camera . His actions is like a dullard teacher that gave students complicated homework because he couldn’t solve it . Truly birds of a feather flocks together .

Obasanjo doesn’t hold enough weight to influence Nigeria politics since the time of Jonathan . He was against Buhari in 2019 but he won in a landslide.

Obj might not want to support Tinubu because he’s presidency we envelop his own legacy .

Keyamo might not be right in the sense that it takes 365 days for the earth to complete its revolution around the sun. Though there are many calendars (most of them outdated) based on different parameters.

[quote author=LastProphet post=119587465][/quote]it’s not entirely true that Niger Delta militants never killed hostage ,it’s an assumption based on incomplete premise . Aside the fact that you don’t have access to their internal operations,there are notable occurrences of their evil actions.

Here’s a few links to their undoings

https://punchng.com/how-evans-kidnapped-killed-my-86-year-old-father-after-collecting-n15m-ex-super-eagles-player/?amp

https://www.thecable.ng/breaking-kidnapped-british-killed-niger-delta/amp

We can not solely blame Buhari for this menace because Fulani herdsmen have been ravaging since a long time ago ,even their activities was notorious during GEJ time if your memory serve you well or you can check it out online .

ModCaller:
You notice the thing too? Lol.

Very funny team.

or we can say that Harland is messing Man city formation up . Man city was a perfect team before he was purchased

LastProphet:
That's one angle of the issue, the other angle where buhari failed woefully is where he was initially denying that kidnappers we're Fulani. That's the time the whole thing grew out of control. Buhari is just a foolish person mostly

on a fair note ,it’s not only Fulanis that are into kidnappings. We hear news of Yorubas and Igbos apprehended for kidnappings. We can only say that Fulani has the largest percentage of today’s kidnappers in Nigeria.

poseidon12:
Buhari tried??

how many times have you heard of BH/ISWAP activities against civilians since Buhari has taken over ?

We should not allow emotions to becloud our judgement.

Buhari tried when it comes to fight against terrorism but his intelligence capabilities is not enough .

Many heroes have become villain when there’s no more war but they have nothing else to do . What I mean is that Buhari/NIA didn’t have a plan for fall-out containment .

When BH and ISWAP are being decimated,their members will find alternatives to bypass the heat . And that alternative is banditry .

Many Biafra loyalists are donating their food money .

This reminds me of one girl I met in a hotel few months back ,my friends and I were out to have some fun after a hectic week … we were only there drinking and eating what we ordered. Two babes entered ,sat on the table next to ours , I spoke to the one I considered cool enough to join our table . Within a min both of them had join our table ,they’ve already ordered for ice cream then without asking me she ordered for two plates of pepper soup . I just smiled ,paid their bills then collected her number while my friends and I left .I was contemplating hooking her up but I viewed her status on WhatsApp and discovered she’s a single mother . I just blocked her straight.

If you don’t see any cream there ,she’s probably cured it but still sticking to the undies but if not ,you go spend like 15k for hospital .

Where is our Nigerian Engineers?