₦airaland Forum

Business can not thrive where there’s insecurities.

MandelaLives:
This is what gets people angry to call you people urchins. We are talking about people's lives, you're talking about having political weight. How can the corrupt people Obi is fighting join him? This is exactly why these corrupt people continue to be successful in enslaving you guys. Is your mindset so low? Haba! You continue to vote corrupt people because they have political weight and they keep killing and kidnapping you. See eh, it's this people TODAY but it could be you TOMORROW. These people didn't know it would be them YESTERDAY.

You said I should go online to check. Why can't you cite sources to me as I'm citing to you. Show me the sources that proved that security was poor in Anambra up to 2 years into the Obi Administration - not when he assumed power newly.

Again, you said that most of Obi's supporters are Igbos. A lie. Some of Obi's most ardent supporters like Aisha Yesufu, Ayo Adebanjo, Rinu Oduala, etc are not Igbos.

Well I cited a a source where eneche is card carrying member of lp and therefore could no longer hold a neutral position . There are many citations online of insecurities during Obi tenure
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/06/anambra-managing-insecurity-with-politics/amp/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/07/unemployment-major-cause-of-insecurity-in-anambra%E2%80%94okonkwo/amp/

There were a lot of kidnappings (even when the Fulani has not gotten into kidnappings,it was evans that expose the Fulania to kidnappings) robbery and so on during his tenure .

Rinu,Aisha and adebanjo are not important figures ,they’re known opportunist activists that has no achievements to their names.

It’s people like Okupe that is an associate of Obi.

MandelaLives:
This is what gets people angry to call you people urchins. We are talking about people's lives, you're talking about having political weight. How can the corrupt people Obi is fighting join him? This is exactly why these corrupt people continue to be successful in enslaving you guys. Is your mindset so low? Haba! You continue to vote corrupt people because they have political weight and they keep killing and kidnapping you. See eh, it's this people TODAY but it could be you TOMORROW. These people didn't know it would be them YESTERDAY.

It’s you Zombiediots that can not reason ,first I counter your argument with a logical approach but when you could no longer respond,you descend to insult by calling me an urchin for defending a notion .

Now let me burst your brain ,the word urchin is not someone that can not present a logical argument or assuming supporting a bad product but someone on the street that is being mischievous like dressing in a bad way or causing harms like pickpocketing or street fights ,can you see that it has no logical correlation?

Responding to your comment about weight ,you’re the one that insinuated that Obi brought a lot of followers to lp so I’m saying that it’s not Obi effect but a lot of things is happening at the same time which you didn’t respond to but descend to insult .

Lastly , Obi is not clean ,his Panama scandal is still there ,investment of government funds in family business is still there ,buying a million dollars house in uk as a student is still there which he could not explain ,disbanding vigilante and underfunding government parastatal is still there . So I was asking you how will someone that disbanded vigilante tackle insecurities in the federal level ? How will a regional candidate handle cabals at the federal level ? Remember he was impeached once as a governor for failure and incompetence?

You’re not responding to my questions what you’re doing is called red herring fallacy

MandelaLives:
In case you are sincere, let me answer you:

1. In 2019, LP Presidential Candidate won only 5,074 votes out of 28 million votes. And, even now, you can't even remember the name of the LP candidate in 2019 without going to Google. That tells you the level of followership LP had before Obi joined them.

Read more here:

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2022/10/10/peter-obi-a-man-who-carries-his-own-suitcases-could-be-nigerias-next-president "As public campaigning was about to begin in late September, Nigeria was rocked by the release of three polls showing Mr Obi well ahead of the two candidates for the main parties that have misruled Nigeria since the restoration of its democracy in 1999. In two of the polls Mr Obi has a lead of more than 15 percentage points over Bola Tinubu of the incumbent All Progressives Congress (APC) and Atiku Abubakar of the People’s Democratic Party (PDP), the main opposition. What makes this even more extraordinary is that Mr Obi is standing for the Labour Party, whose candidate at the previous presidential election in 2019 won just 5,074 votes out of 28m cast".

2. What you said about security in Anambra under Peter Obi is a lie. See what a general in the Nigerian Army said instead... https://www.dailypost.ng/2022/10/18/how-peter-obi-tackled-insecurity-under-my-watch-in-anambra-gen-enenche/%3famp=1

It’s true that lp is not as accepted as this before Obi defection to it but that doesn’t rule out the fact that lp has its own followers before . Also Obi has little weight in PDP as a politician because if any political bigwig wants to defect ,many of his associates and followers will follow suit but we can see that nothing like that happened when Obi defected . Most of Obi followers are of Igbo extractions following a tribalistic agenda ,people that are not happy with Buhari maladministration or PDP history of wanton corruption ,people that wants to wrestle power from the older generation (forgetting that Obi is part of the older generation) and lastly people that follow bandwagon like sheep so my point is that it’s not really Obi effect ,the same thing would have happened if it’s Wike or Sanwo olu if they’re the candidate for lp ,at least we can see what Kwankwaso is doing in the north as well . But it’s a good thing that Nigeria now has an alternative from black and white.

What I said about insecurities in Anambra is true ,check online for news when he was Governor and not a recent comment from a bias Enenche ,he’s a member of lp and he won’t say the truth anymore …. Here’s where he’s praising Obi ,an army general must remain neutral to have a valid opinion
https://www.thecable.ng/i-believe-in-obi-ex-defence-spokesperson-reacts-amid-backlash-over-inclusion-in-lp-campaign/amp

Obi disbanded vigilante and also health workers were on strike for 13 months . That’s not a good presidential candidate.

About the polls ,any institution can create a poll with different criteria ,there are many polls that project Tinubu as the winner even the thisday that serves as a backup media created a statistics that describes Obi has non existent in vital regions . A regional candidate will be a weak president

As some people Dey celebrate Christmas,make some people Dey celebrate masquerade.

MandelaLives:
Deny as much as you like, there's a reason why a political party has been there for years and nobody cared about it. But when ONE MAN went to that party, millions of people followed him there and are campaigning for him happily with their own resources instead of getting paid for it. There is a reason why.

shey lp no get followers before ni abi Wetin you Dey yarn ?

Still you haven’t answer my question how someone that disbanded vigilante and let loose urchins in Anambra state will tackle insecurity.

MandelaLives:
This is happening while people are campaigning for Tinubu and Atiku to succeed Buhari. Some of the most useless humans on Earth might just be Nigerians.

Wetin Obi wan do different ? Person wey disband vigilante as a governor.

Many states are running Christian Christian ticket but we nor too dey hear noise . The crises in Kaduna precedes El-Rufai.

True , Myself for instance used to be a Christian but now without religion . I will prefer ATR to any other religion if at all I’m considering religion .

Nigeria politics is evolving.
Atiku himself is a master defector and a serial betrayer .

The last time Nigeria political space was this excited was in 2013 when 5 nPDP governors backed by 58 reps,22 senators and other bigwigs defected to APC .

Obi is not more than a cabinet member in Tinubu’s vision to create a better Nigeria . It’s only Obidients that’s inflating his price like a stock advertised more than it’s value .

One of Atiku’s undoings is his geopolitical origin ,it’s not his turn .

But the most important thing is that Nigeria should be projected into good directions and transform to a good country by whosoever that win .

alobright17:
Nobody taps in goals than pendu yet you're rating him close Goat Messi.

where’s pendu in my statement ?

alobright17:
Halland better than Mbape

palm wine tapper

5 rodo is now #100

VinnyBaba:
Nice one..

In d Legal Profession, if a Criminal commits an offence 40 years Ago, and it comes out in the Open, Dem no go still Arrest am?

I think USA has a 20 years statute,depending on the crime gravity .

I’ve been in a few states aside Lagos and I can tell you that these states are cleaner ,less stressful and more peaceful than Lagos but the advantage Lagos had is the activities going on there . People that are ambitious wants to stay where they have hope of success.

Pray:
If not for job, I won't even live in Lagos. I rather stay in Ibadan.

Ibadan sef get e own ,traffic and roughness wise

Safety first

Intensity results in quality whereas extensity results in quantity.

Seun:
Please report posts with suspicious likes.

why don’t you make users that like a post/comment visible

coker00782:
The monopoly of Nairaland is finaaly over

with your copy and paste ,no form of ingenuity at all

Make Chelsea use Bournemouth pick form

Na Jorginho create the chance … na why coach nor Dey gree drop am

It’s not about age ,it’s about performance USA,China and Russia are the top three countries in the world but their president is 80,69 and 70 years respectively.

All the three leading candidates in Nigeria belongs to the same order .

[quote author=BigRocky post=119395861][/quote]You said everything concocted against Obi are mere allegations but has any concoction against Tinubu proven beyond allegations? It’s called double standard if you don’t know .

If you have evidence against his Panama scandal bring it here or his source of wealth how he could afford a million dollar house as a student or the investment of state resources in family’s business. I will advise you bite the dust or bury your head in shame .

Contesting under a low party is equal to low productivity because in school for instance ,a student of medicine is more valuable and productive than a student of botany .

A good businessman does not leave money in bank but reinvest it to beat inflation ,help human development and make income . Most students were caught in anambra for exam malpractice during his time .it’s called Oluwole result .

What’s safety in anambra during his tenure ?you mean Obi that disbanded vigilante to cut cost which resulted in urchins rampage ? https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/06/anambra-managing-insecurity-with-politics/amp/ neither does he have the best road network ,there are many pictures trending online of bad roads in anambra . And yes he does not have the national appeal ,not only from what we witnessed in kogi or in his backyard Rivers but also other nothern states ,not to talk of his association with Biafra agitation.

It’s better to support Agbado than to go hungry in a stingy man regime that will underfund all sectors of government .

EmmyDJourno:
“That envy’s”, go school get sense you say no, na NURTW work you want dey do, shouting Up Union from Oshodi to Bariga
I only pity your kids, future Urchins

You see someone that wants to correct someone written English but also commit blunder. Many of your people are running to Lagos everyday for better life ,in fact many Okoros and Chukwudis are sleeping under Oshodi bridge everyday selling youghurt and gala ,many in ladipo slums selling spare parts . The future of your presidential candidate’s daughter is secured in Lagos with teachers job . While himself has abandoned his abambra for Lagos since his governorship. Dey play .

EmmyDJourno:
Lol, says the one whose generation is already doomed with drug addiction and stupidity
Imagine giving birth to male and female Urchins simply because you supported Tinubu

you’re a zombie ,a man with no lineage . A failure that envy a Success

EmmyDJourno:
Who are you writing all this one for
You better go and be praying for your Heroine using generation, that they may have the wisdom to come off it
Illiterate mofo like you

all your generations are in jail . You can check at the nearest psychiatrist so you won’t die of loneliness.

BigRocky:
Who is your preferred candidate?
Or assuming am an undecided voter,who do you suggest I vote for.


I said your assessment was bias simply because you put obi and low productivity in one sentence.

my preferred candidate is Tinubu .

Even though he has health issues and he has multiple allegations against him , I preferred him because of his high productivity compared to the other two front runners based on his antecedents ,his team work ,his manifesto and more national approval compared to PO . Most people will prefer working for 12 hours in a day and get more pay to working for 6 hours in a day but getting low pay the same way people will prefer to pay a lot of prices for quality product that can get the job done to buying a cheap product that will breakdown or perform below par.

I consider Obi low productivity due to the following reasons .

1 He’s contesting under labor party because he’s always a second choice in PDP ,Labour Party is just an alternative force(low acceptance) scraping APC and PDP disgruntled followers.

2 His antecedents as Governor in terms of Economic ,Infrastructure and Human index development is low compared to Tinubu

3 He does not have the national appeal to lead a diverse culture country like Nigeria neither does he have the strength to hold his post when attacked by cabals because he does not have the structure to protect himself,at least we can see how he ran with his tail between his leg before the primary election. At least we‘ve witnessed how Tinubu stood his ground in face of opposition for several years not cross carpeting to another party to reduce the heat or breath a fresh air ,we’ve also recently witnessed how Buhari wanted to sidelined him when he became president and people were laughing at him that he’s been used and dumped also his protege Osibanjo declared against him and Buhari didn’t approved him for primary election but yet he stood his ground and believe in his resolution. That is someone that hold his post without running away .

Obi also has allegations against him too ,using her daughter to launder money to Panama ,buying a million dollar house UK as a student ,where did he get the money ?Definitely not from importation business that is killing our local productivity but probably from drug business since most anambra men are into drug business or from ritual like when he was caught bathing with blood in Okija shrine .

EmmyDJourno:
Im praying your generations find a way out of Heroine use like Tinubu, coz the wisdom to do it would be far from your dumb brains

Drug use is more prevalent in your lineage,at least you’re still battling with Ice that is making your people useless but carrying gun to destroy the little infrastructure your fore fathers left for you . And also all your siblings overseas are being arrested for carrying drugs ,from Cambodia to ,china to India to everywhere they’ve been to . In case you’re typing from Malaysia pls extend my regards to your firstborn in jail when you’re arrested as well .

BigRocky:
First of all,your assessment was bias and disgusting.

Talking about cultured ways of communicating when you talking thrash and throwing tantrums like a mad woman on a public forum?

Which your useless assessment,I was expecting you would have present a 10/10 candidate for Nigerians .

Secondly if you or father is not a politian,why not shut up and allow Nigerians pick their preferred candidate .

My overall point is that,if you don't have a better candidate to present,shut up and face front .

Firstly,you have not given me reasons or proven to me how my assessment was bias .

Secondly , I didn’t throw tantrums in my assessment ,I simply served your response based on your toxic character so don’t shift the goal post .

Thirdly , I assessed three front runners that I deemed fit deserve my attention ,it’s called nirvana fallacy throwing out an argument because the premise that is not complete.

That my father is not a politician does not mean that my right as a Nigerian to analyze and choose the best leader for my country is suspended. I think you’re the one that need to go back to your drawing book to erase your kettle logic .

henro4niger:
Useless idiot that is good for absolutely nothing. You lack basic morals and unfit to be among normal human beings. Go back to your useless father and mother and tell them they failed you.

you don’t have father and mother at home . Sorry �

BigRocky:
Y are u pained lol

U condemn all 3 front runners in the presidential election like your father is the anointed one mumu.

There’s a saying that it’s in one’s job that people know how good you’re ,my father is not a politician but he excelled in his own chosen field.

I simply assessed the three front runners based on their weaknesses and strengths and for people that consider themselves worthy to go into politics.

A person with a father at home does not abuse the father of another person .

If you can not maintain a cultured way of conversation then you do not deserve to be living among humans but animals.