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slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
Is not everytime we criticize.. he was trying to say insecurity will be a thing of the past

Oluolad86:
Help me cure this pericarditis please

HadeedHarry:
One mistake the modern believers do is picking someone on street and expect him to speak in tongues just after some prayer. There's a lot of corrections and teachings to be done. I've seen a comment section on facebook filled with tongues, like you comment with tongues and i reply with tongues.

vikithor:
first lines so amusing.
last lines so educating
summary and worthy to note point-Are you born again with evidence of godly character should be the better question amongst the Pentecostals.

Got me smiling
Why don't people ask "are you born again with evidence of casting out demons,are you born again with evidence of prophesying, healing,working of miracles amongst other gifts?
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stancydg:
In line with the truth that The HolySpirit bears up by helping us pray when we are short of words, especially words that are in line with God's will, I share this testimony on the importance of speaking in tongues in the life of a believer.

One morning just before the 2015 presidential elections, I woke up to the usual morning devotion just before heading out on a journey to a building site. Got an unusual nudging to pray in tongues for a couple more minutes after I had concluded praying and thank God I did. On my way back from the building site on top speed and in a bid to overtake a slow moving vehicle in front of me, while avoiding a fast one from the opposite direction on a one way, the vehicle I drove skidded off the lane, crossed the opposite lane and began to spin, first in the air and then round and round when it hit the ground a couple more cycles, before coming to a halt on a flat ground, a few metres from a massive rock. Seemed like a scene out of a Hollywood flick and for the first time in my life, I experienced what it meant by " And He shall give His Angels charge over you, to bear you up on their wings....Ps:91".

I doubt if that wouldn't have been the most fatal accident of that year, if The Holy Spirit hadn't intervened in my prayer session that morning. Glory be to God.

BrosTem:
Speaking in tongues is just a "gift of the spirit".
It is one of the 9 spiritual gifts in 1st Corint. 12.

It is not the envidence of being born again. No it really isn't.

See what vs 30 of 1st Corint 30 says:

1 Corinthians 12:30 "Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?"

It means all cannot exercise only one spiritual gift; speaking in tongues inclusive.

Check the lifestyle of most of these brethren always blasting in tongues...na yeye and careless life dem dy live, meaning that they are not even born again.

stancydg:
Its commonplace these days for the enemy to use various channels against the Church of Christ, even seemingly innocent and well crafted write ups. No wonder he has to do so much cos he knows he has but a short time. If not, there shouldn't be any reason to debate why a kingdom/nation or ethnos has its own lingua franca. Just like a child learns the language of the environment he is born into, why doesn't it make sense for logical folks to see the necessity of those said to be "re-born" to gradually communicate in the lingua of the new world they now live in? Of course, the answer is in the Word...Spiritual things are meaningless to the carnal mind.

Otherwise, it would be clear that the spiritual communication that prayer is can't run smoothly without words that are in line with the "Will of God", which The Spirit helps the believer to come into by " Groanings that can't be understood". Rom 8: 26 - 28 as quoted below;

So too the [Holy] Spirit comes to our aid and bears us up in our weakness; for we do not know what prayer to offer nor how to offer it worthily as we ought, but the Spirit Himself goes to meet our supplication and pleads in our behalf with unspeakable yearnings and groanings too deep for utterance.

27 And He Who searches the hearts of men knows what is in the mind of the [Holy] Spirit [what His intent is], because the Spirit intercedes and pleads [before God] in behalf of the saints according to and in harmony with God’s will.

28 We are assured and know that [God being a partner in their labor] all things work together and are [fitting into a plan] for good to and for those who love God and are called according to [His] design and purpose.


So, how on earth is a believer supposed to function in line with God's Will without the evidence of speaking in tongues that builds up his "Most Holy Faith" according to JudeV20 and helps align his prayers with The Father's Will?

Don't be deceived.

Johnjnr:
Yes he is, but not the modern day kind of Pentecostal. More of an apostolic style.
I don't attend same church with him, Cus of distance.

JesusDWay:
The reason why it is generally believed that speaking in tongues is the evidence of being baptised in the Holy Spirit is because that was the very evidence witnessed when the apostles first got baptised in the Holy Spirit in Acts 2. In Acts 10 as well when Peter went to preach to the household of Cornelius, it was the same thing that happened. When Paul met some disciples in Acts 19:1-6, when Paul prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit, the evidence also was speaking in tongues. You may have omitted the fact that Peter was the one leading them in upper room when the Holy Spirit fell on all of them and the bible makes us know they all spoke in new tongues so, saying Peter did not speak in tongues I believe is an omission. Note that this is about the evidence of being baptised in the Holy Spirit and not about speaking in tongues to do miracles, miracles are performed by faith in the name of Jesus. Now, you can have the Spirit when you become genuinely born again but when there's a fullness of the Spirit, it will most likely come out in you speaking in tongues.

DOCU:
Dear writer

I was like you before: making mockery those that wanted to impart it on me until it hit me one day while I was praying alone.

I was a born again but never believed in Speaking in Tongue. I thought it was a scam. It was so until I had the encounter one night in my room. Since then, I have been 100% fan of tongue-speaking.

Because you don't have it, don't conclude that it is fake.

I think every genuine believer must have the gift. Remember, that is the first thing Peter, Paul and the apostles of the old must do whenever they converted a soul.

tempusfugit:
THEN HE'S LACKING IN MARKETING STRATEGIES

Willie2015:
Paul in 1st Corinthians say....

[b][/b]I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.

Very simple and straightforward...
Apostle Paul speak in tongues a lot ....
For him to have done it more than anyone....

shadeyinka:
Can you give me a scriptural basis for your conclusion?

And can you please explain the difference between
1. Having the Holy Spirit
2. Being Filled with the Holy Spirit
3. Having the gift of Tongues

Depepper:
For many are rappers in church today. I was invited to a fellowship back in 2017. I entered the gathering late but after the bible lesson the leader said we should all stand up and pray about God's word we have just heard. Immediately even single member of the gathering started to speak in tongues, I was shock and afraid.
To cut the story short the lady that invited me later on wanted to force speaking in tongues on me. But me o gba fun.

Nuttella:
There are tongues that do not carry any single fire and there are tongues that make demons tremble, those tongues carry serious fire.

Also there are demonic tongues, the ones demon possessed and witches speak, we need to be spiritually discerning to know the real tongues.

Valkan:
it was the key gift given to the apostles on Pentecost
it is the apex reason why the spreading of the word was possible

tempusfugit:
Yes oo you must speak in tongues, if you want people to believe you, if you're a pastor and you cannot speak in tongues, your church business wouldn't boom ooo ���!! If you know you know.

Nuttella:
Let me tell you my story.

Before I gave my life to Christ, I use to laugh when people speak in tongues, some of those tongues sounded funny in my ears, then I gave my life to Christ, I listen to sinach songs, she speaks in tongues in her songs, and the tongues are melodious in my ears, so I sing the tongues along ignorantly, then as times goes on, I will just be talking and a strange language will come out forcefully from my mouth, I didnt know I was speaking in tongues cause I was a Catholic then and most Catholic dont speak in tongues, one day I joined a prayer group on telegram, every 8pm, we pray and the anchor speak in tongues, sometimes I have the urge to laugh during the speaking in tongues, at a point I noticied that almost everybody in the group can speak in tongues except me, I started desiring the gift, so one day they gave us a prayer to pray for those that want gift of speaking in tongues, I prayed the prayer with the desire to speak it, I didnt start speaking it immediately, it was that same day during my midnight prayer, as I was standing and praying, I felt a vibration in my legs and I started speaking in tongues. The tongues I spoke then and the ones I speak now are not the same, the ones I speak now carry serious power and authority, the type that make demons tremble.

Glory!!!

Please desire the gift of praying in the holy ghost.
Jude 1:20
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost.

There are some spiritual potentials you won't be able to unlock till you start praying in the holy ghost.

Originalsly:
Hmmm.......the Holy Spirit (God) ... is using your tongue and heart.....to communicate with God....without your intentions. Hmmm..... God needs your tongue and heart to speak to Himself..... this has nothing to do with you. See crazy explanation?

tsmith:
Very intresting question and valid view point.

I had a similar experience with some 16years ago with a redeem pastor couple when I was leaving in Cardiff. I had a car and jejely offered to drop the car less pastor couple off at home taking the centre used for the church service was quite a walk away from town or nearest bus top. When we finally got to the car after waiting around to clear up and their post church pastoral services, they said they wanted to pray on the car for me, taking I just recently bought it. They go into prayers then tongues. Me I'm jejely muttering my English prayers. They asked if I don't speak on tongues and I'm like no. What they didn't know is I wasn't a newly converted Christian. Infact then many now pentacostal Christians come from baptist, anligcan or Catholic backgrounds. But me my family had been part of the 1st wave of pentacostal Christians, they ones labelled Scripture Union (SU). So my walk as a born again Christian wasn't new. As a 10year old I used to speak in tongues, then their were periods in my teenage years where I didn't even believe in god, post teenage and around uni I on my own accord found my way back to God. No pressure, no preaching no shame!

So for some pastors to guilty trip me into faking something that was crystal clear in the bible that it isn't for all, but exclusive to some at God's remit. As you rightly quoted the Bible stated to some he gave the gift of tongues, interpretation, faith etc. Now my faith till date knows no bounds, but the pastors didn't consider that.

So they prayed and prayed and prayed but dear old me didn't break out in tongues. At last we embarked on the journey not without them ladenning me with scriptures to read and ask God for the gift. And sincerely I did, in my quite times I'd pray and ask, but nothing came to me and I wasn't going to form something in fakery. Everytime the pastors saw me, they'd ask if I've received the gift yet and each time I said no.

Months or a year later. I was seeing someone, he was Muslim but got along like a pack of cards. He lived in a different Town too, so some weekends I'd go see him but he spent most of his weekends with me. I had been away a couple of weekends back and after church this day, the husband pastor appeoa he'd me about my essence. I thought it was a good time to up about this serious relationship. So I said, yes, I been away to see my boyf. He then asked, is he a Christian (meaning born again) and I go No. He then goes into the tirade of not been unequally yolked etc. Then he asked what branch of Christianity did he practice, then I go no, he is Muslim. He then thought this wasn't a standing discussion it required sitting and digging into the books. So that we did, sat down and opened up our Bible. During this, he said 'if I may ask are you in intimate relationship with him". I could have lied but I saw no reason to do so in order to satisfy him, so I said Yes. Take it that if my father and God, the men I had the upmost respect for already knows I was having a sexual relationship with my boyf who the hell is a pastor not to know.

Anyways, as soon as I admitted yes, this man started to not just judge me but administer punishment and consequences without even consulting the god he claims to serve or represent. He said no wonder I haven't received the gift of the spirit (tongues). That I should please not help out or work in the church force anymore so the wrath of God would not come upon them. These same pastor couples had been married for 12 years then and did not have any offsprings. Would it have been fair to say perhaps some sin in their lives is why they don't have kids? Abii the god that has not fulfilled the prayers from their mouth would fulfil their prayer from then to me to speak in tongues?

Long winded story, ended marrying my boyf, I didn't even tell them or invite them to the weddeing, even though it took place in Nigeria some other church members on holiday around same period all came down for the wedding. On my return, the pastor Mrs approached me and said I heard you're married. I'm like duh, yeah. And she was like I don't think it's right for me to have told "my mother and father in the Lord" I asked who gave them appointment letter. As I can't remember endorsing any. They said by attending the church, I am invariabky their sheep, tuh! When we had our 1st son, even though they like every other church member received the text notification announcing the birth, and even though it's typical in the church to announce new births, for my child the Sunday announcement was "we do not recognise births of kids who's parents marriage is not recognised by God". That there was the straw that broke the camels back and I never returned to the church.

Met then years later at a a festival of life, pastor Mrs was all ove me, Sister T how are you? I indesatnd you have another child now etc. But there they were and still are about 25years married, yet childless and here I am, married to the person I live and adorable children and we all thriving.