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MaxInDHouse:
Please which of the countless religions claiming churches is this your so called "SPIRIT" working with?
Because there is contradictions among them all!

So you don't believe Ur bible or leader again abi
U are looking for churches and spirits right?

MaxInDHouse:
What is the PRACTICAL BENEFITS of this your spirit?
Because you are fond of mentioning it anytime you want to lie! /

So the Holy Spirit is now a lying Spirit to you
He's in charge of these dispensation.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni Jesus COMMANDED us to baptize and be baptized!

That's why I said you need the Holy Spirit directives to understand the bible not some elders or pastors.
Romans6:3....
Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
Do you even understand these simple verse?

MaxInDHouse:
He had no opportunity to do so that's why Jesus promised him otherwise he doesn't need to be given such assurance if he joined Jesus' disciples and got baptized you can see what the Ethiopian eunuch did after his conviction he quickly asked Philip to baptize him as one of Jesus' disciples. Act 8:36-38

If Philip didn't preach baptism to him as part of the requirements of faith in Christ would he have asked to be baptized?
Peter also mentioned baptism to Jews who had him at Pentecost! Read Act 2:38

Dude
Anyone that believes in Jesus Christ has been baptized period.
The ceremonial thing is an affirmation of what and who we are in Christ Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
Baptism is the first step into faith in Christ Jesus so if you don't believe in baptism you are not a believer in Christ!

So the criminal on the cross was also baptized before entering paradise abi?

MaxInDHouse:
Go and worship with those who don't believe in physical baptism i believe John and Jesus knew what they did!

So you don't believe and understand Ur bible teaching again

MaxInDHouse:
With my discipleship and the effort put in together in my church hundreds of thousands in Nigeria have been baptized as true disciples of the Prince of Peace {Act 1:8} this means they will never ever raise weapons against their neighbors or fellow believers again just as God's word foretold regarding our time! Isaiah 2:2-4

Now what is the fruit of your church?

All these ceremonial baptism has no effect to our faith in Christ jesus.its just an affirmation of what we already believe in Him.
Roms6:3...3Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in newness of life. 5For if we have become [b]united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be [c]in the likeness of His resurrection, 6knowing this, that our old [d]self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be [e]done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7for the one who has died is [f]freed from sin.

8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, [g]is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. 10For [h]the death that He died, He died to sin once for all time; but [i]the life that He lives, He lives to [j]God. 11So you too, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Physical baptism has nothing to do with our faith

MaxInDHouse:
You don't even know the meaning of "WORSHIP" yet you want to argue about God's word.

Dude, if you don't associate with people in worship then Jesus has no business with you, that's why he said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

This two or three is not about you and your nuclear family o it means two to three sets of families at least preparing for the work Jesus assigned to his disciples which is preaching and teaching in your neighborhood {Matthew 10:11-13} that's the only thing that can attract Jesus as a spirit chair person to join the gathering but when only you and your family are praying that is not the type of gathering Jesus is talking about that's praying only for the needs of your nuclear family it has no business with the assignment Jesus gave to his disciples!

So i ask you again:

As Christians how many disciples have you and your church baptized for the work Jesus assigned to his disciples? Matthew 28:19

Dude
What's the fruit or result of Ur discipleship for decades?
What's the impart of Ur discipleship and preaching to Ur locality, state and country?
Preaching with out been lead by Holy Spirit is a complete waste of time.
Because it's the works of the Flesh.
Can you compare your preaching and discipleship to that of the day of Pentecost?
When the Holy Spirit converted over 4k people after the preaching of Peter.
We should stop dicieving ourselves.
Do you know the meaning of the church?
For the same way Adam did not accept any other thing except what came out of him to be his wife.likewise Christ will only accept His Spirit in every christains to be His wife or church.
Dude
These is the dispensation of the Holy Spirit and He must lead not some pastors or elders

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, humans wrote the Bible not a spirit God inspired these writers with His spirit {2Timothy 3:16} and guides those taking the lead in God's organization to all truth in the book {John 14:26} making it possible for peace to reign among us {John 14:27} but there are lying spirits misleading you guys with different meaning that's why you people keep contradicting yourselves.
Can you mention the name of your church?
NO! Because there is no single church out there having one spirit like Jehovah's Witnesses! John 17:22
In God's organization we have just one spirit it's not guiding each member to interpret rather it's guiding only those taking the lead {Hebrews 13:7,17} so that we can all have the same line of thought! 1Corinthans 1:10

Ọmọ all these things pass your level you can only mimick what your pastors read in the Bible you can't correlate it skillfully like a real disciple of Christ! 2Timothy 2:15

I don't do church things, told you before.
Seems Ur JW and most of these so called churches are the same.
Acting like an intermediary system among christains.liken to the old testament.
God will be at the right side, the people of God at the left side, then the pastor, bishop,go, elders will be at the middle acting as an intermediary between God and His people.
John4:21Jesus *said to her, “Believe Me, woman, that [f]a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, because salvation is from the Jews. 23But [g]a time is coming, and [h]even now has arrived, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be [i]His worshipers. 24God is [j]spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

MaxInDHouse:
Lots of lying spirits {Revelations 16:14} and they disguise! 2Corinthians 11:14

So that's why we have to test all spirits! 1John 4:1

So lying Spirits wrote the bible? Are you for real?
That's blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.presume you know the consequences?
Lying against the author of the bible.

MaxInDHouse:
You call a demon whatever you wish as long as it's not achieving the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} you are deceiving yourself!

Dude who inspired men to write the bible?

Maximus692:
You think a lying spirit is the author of the Bible shey?

So the Holy Spirit is a lying Spirit about?

MaxInDHouse:
You don't believe the Bible rather it's the lying spirit so stick to your spirit i'm OK with my Bible!

So you believe a book more than the author
😂

MaxInDHouse:
Just ask what you don't understand!

Jesus is the head of his church but since he must leave the headship in the hands of imperfect humans he told them that God's Holy Spirit will ANOINT those who will take the lead in this work so they have to be BAPTIZED in the Holy Spirit just as Jesus was BAPTIZED and became the first BORN AGAIN preacher! Act 1:8

It's after they are baptized with God's Holy Spirit that they can be bold as in fearless to preach and teach! Act 4:24-31

So the Holy Spirit will continue to TEACH this little group how to guide the flock of God not that the spirit will start telling each Christian contradicting things o!

Lol
I don't do cherry picking,if not eeeh😭
Any group of brothers proclaiming christains with out been lead by the Holy Spirit are all BIG TIME WASTERS PERIOD.
These is dispensation of the Holy Spirit.
Dude, try and explore it through the bible

MaxInDHouse:
What Jesus COMMANDED! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8
Why do you people don't feel remorseful when lying?

Where you there when He gave the command?
Why then will He tell them also to wait for the Holy Spirit to lead them?
John 14:26...But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you.

MaxInDHouse:
And i don't do audio church thing i want PHYSICAL because the first century church was PHYSICAL that's why we are reading about them in the Bible today!


Stop deceiving yourself!
Jesus formed a group of mature men and commanded them to go out making disciples and baptizing them! Matthew 28:19

How many disciples have you and your two or three baptized this year?

Lol ,that's where you are getting it wrong.making disciples isnt our primary call,but that of the Holy Spirit.for over a century there has been some many revivals, evangelism, christains conferences and meetings,but the world is even worse than before.
The problem is I,WE and US, the works of the flesh.
You said Jesus commanded them to go out making disciples,who commands you to do the same?by which authority are you preaching today?is it by what you read or you are personally authorise by the Holy Spirit to "Go" and preach in a specific place or country.
Preach the gospel with out specifically been told by the Holy Spirit or Jesus to do so is complete waste of time and energy.
Genesis1:1 says "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
In the beginning it was God alone,it was never God and man created........
The works of salvation was Gods work too.
So preaching of His gospel is also His works through the Holy Spirit, any other thing is a scam.waste of time.
We are only called (previliage) to partake in preaching the gospel.if you are personally sent.

Maximus692:
I don't believe any spirit that can't unite it's worshipers.
So what is the name of your church where you people believe this things so i can observe the WORKS of God's Holy Spirit in your gathering?

I don't do physical church things per se,but when two,three etc are gathered in His name His there and that's the church.
When you and your family are gathered in His name that's the church.
You don't have to go to Jerusalem to fellowship

Maximus692:
I believe God's word not any spirit!

So you don't believe The Holy Spirit

MaxInDHouse:
This simply means God promised to be with him and save him so even though he will die (something he has never experienced in his life) God will raise him.
That's what he meant not that he is the person who raised himself!

Dude, you need to upgrade

MaxInDHouse:
This simply means God promised to be with him and save him so even though he will die (something he has never experienced in his life) God will raise him.
That's what he meant not that he is the person who raised himself!

That's why most have to move from milk to solid food.
You need to start praying and ask the Holy Spirit some valid question He alone will convince you

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ go and sit down, Jesus of the Bible is not God he cried and begged God to save him and he was favorably heard in that God raised him from the dead!

John10:18...No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

MaxInDHouse:
Ask Jesus' special apostle Paul who wrote that in his letter to Timothy:


During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. ‭Hebrews 5:7 NIV‬

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared. KJV

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. NWT (JW Bible)

Your question supposed to be:

Who is the One Jesus cried to that was able to save Jesus!

7who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, 8though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, 10called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek,” 11of whom we have much to say, and hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.

So after His prayers and cries regarding death,He still died abi
Dude knowledge is one thing understanding and revelation is another, futhermore we should stop quoting scripture out of context.
That's why from verse 12-14 says some christains need milk instead of solid food.
They can't handle solid food.
Spiritual maturity needs knowledge,power, revelation and understanding.not just knowledge.the bible is a spiritual book.not just one borrowed course we study in school.
Same way Jesus told the Pharisees "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God...Matt.22:29.
Meaning they don't even know how scripture,talkless of the power of God, and both are needed.
Dude,seek for His power, revelation and understanding.it will seriously help you, believe me.

Verse..12For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the [b]oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14But solid food belongs to those who are [c]of full age, that is, those who by reason of [d]use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

MaxInDHouse:
Yet Jesus cried and begged someone to SAVE him shey? Hebrews 5:7

You try jàre!

Where did He cried and begged to be saved

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH!


For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. ‭1 Corinthians 15:22-25, 27-28 NIV‬


GOD is the father, Lord and King over everyone including Jesus who must bow before JEHOVAH the GOD of Gods, KING of kings and LORD of Lords.


Is it clear now?

Lol
Study the book of Revelation19:14-16
And even the name Jehovah is under the Canopy of His name JESUS CHRIST
Also study Philippians2:5-9.
There's no other name greater than the name JESUS CHRIST it's a spiritual law established when Christ was glorified.
You can't heal or cast out demons in the name of Jehovah.the demons will rubbish you.
The summary of the whole bible is Jesus Christ nothing more,any other personality are just used as a reference point to Him.

MaxInDHouse:
You people don't study you only read!

The highlighted says who ALONE has immortality

Of course that can't be someone who died expecting someone else to raise him from the dead nah! Hebrews 5:7

So read this:

the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal might. Amen.

Do you still think Paul was referring to Jesus here?

Dude who's the King of kings and Lord of Lords?

MaxInDHouse:
Who?
Ọmọ the Bible is talking about the person who sent Jesus that's the one who is immortal as for all others they have a BEGINNING that's why Jesus is called the first born of all creations.
So if Jesus died that means he is not immortal he could be given by the one who has it sha!

1Timothy6:13I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate, 14that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing, 15which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only [e]Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.
So who's the above verse talking about,that's the King of kings and Lord of Lords ,who has immortality?

MaxInDHouse:
When i first asked you to define immortality you said Google will tell me now after showing you what Google said you want to call spirit to come and define immortality shey?

Sorry i believe the Bible not a lying spirit immortality means not prone to death but Jesus DIED once meaning immortality is not his nature God gave him and 144,000 born again Christians! Revelations 14:1

But the same bible says He was immortal.
Haba

MaxInDHouse:
Immortality isn't the nature of someone who (once) died so he was given after his resurrection!

Dude
You aren't getting it.study philippians2 5-8
Maybe you get it.or ask The Holy Spirit to reveal it to you.
You know there's a big difference between Knowledge,Power and Revelation.
We must work with all and our only guard is the Holy Spirit.

Might mean a thousand things.he should pray for more directions and revelation.
"he that has EARS let him hear what the Lord say"

MaxInDHouse:
Immortality starts when God declares it and Jesus is not the only person who was given immortality there are 144,000 born again Christians who has also been given immortality too!

It wasn't given to Him,that was part of His nature.
U need to study and understand the bible, not just reading it as an elective course in school.
Col2:9...For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form... that's everything about God (Jehovah, almighty God,the Holy Spirit etc)
Dwells in Him.thats why His name JESUS CHRIST is above every other name in the universe.
Even Philip.2-5 says..Have this attitude [e]in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be [f]grasped, 7but [g]emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and [h]being born in the likeness of men.
So He empited Himself of His Divinity and took the form of a bond servant,being born in the likeness of men ,u dey get am.
He's God and God cannot die, so He empited Himself, so He was born in our likeness to fullfil the Purpose of creation which primary involves our Salvation.

MaxInDHouse:
Well i just want you to know that Jesus is not immortal he died once and immortality means not liable to death!

But the bible says He has IMMORTALITY,are u more schooled than those who wrote the bible?

MaxInDHouse:
What is immortality?

Google is Ur friend I believe