Romans8:30and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

31What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33Who will bring charges against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; 34who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, but rather, was [s]raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 35Who will separate us from the love of [t]Christ? Will tribulation, or trouble, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or danger, or sword? 36Just as it is written:

“FOR YOUR SAKE WE ARE KILLED ALL DAY LONG;

WE WERE REGARDED AS SHEEP TO BE SLAUGHTERED.” 37But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Ephesians1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before [d]Him. In love 5[e]He predestined us to adoption as sons and daughters through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6to the praise of the glory of His grace, with which He favored us in the Beloved. 7In [f]Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our wrongdoings, according to the riches of His grace 8which He [g]lavished on [h]us. In all wisdom and insight 9He [i]made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He set forth in Him, 10regarding His plan of the fullness of the times, to bring all things together in Christ, things [j]in the heavens and things on the earth. 11[k]In Him we also have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things in accordance with the plan of His will,

The book of Ephesians1:3-11 ..says we are predestined in Christ before the world was created.very powerful verses.
Then the book of Romans8:30-..says those He predestined,He also called and those He called,He also Justified,and those He Justified He also glorified.
The Gospel is clear that a true Christian,whom Christ Has predestined in Him.must be....glorified .
I don't know how such can lose his/her salvation.

Lol,
Are these guys for real?
Don't they buy fuel or gas here?
Something is seriously wrong.

Taiwojon:

Wait for his leading?

When Jesus himself told us to go and preach that he will go with us and confirm our words with sign following when will preach in his name

Didn't you know you are save by Christ to go out there and save other

Freely you received salvation freely give.

Go and preach as long you are born again and you are living a holy life
Then go and preach

Must will wait for bishop or pope or general overseer to preach the gospel to other when sinner are dying everyday and going to endless eternity in hell.

Jesus say was should go that he will abide with us

Stop waiting for leading before telling about about the sacrifice of Jesus for lost humanity

Thanks you said "Go" if you don't receive that command from Him personally you are wasting your time.
There's a difference between been called and been sent.

Nnpc trying so hard to be relevant, when they have 4 unworkable refineries.
The truth is that nnpc should be privatised or scrapped.

Taiwojon:

Preaching the gospel is not waste of time
Because
Jesus command us to go
The words of God is what convert sinner not our own word
The word of God is a seed that is sow in the heart of the hearer

And
The word of God ( preaching of the gospel will growth)

So preach the gospel whether they like or not
The gospel isn't a waste!

You aren't getting it bro.
We are called to preach His gospel to the world, but we must be sent by Him to do so.
He's a jealous God and Father,He wants to be in charge of every area of our life and in everything that we do.
If one wants to be fruitful in preaching His gospel, such must wait for His leading.

Righteousness2:


Oga if you are genuiely born again , go out and preach the gospel everywhere.
You dont neee any vision or whatever to go abd preach JESUS to a dying world.
Quit all these talks. They are very irrelevant.

Dude, that's why His Church is still struggling here in Nigeria.
Our God is very jealous of His activities.
He can't send one to go and preach without His sovereignity covering such.
Because u are a born again Christian,u now deem it fit to start preaching without His authorisation? Meaning you are on Ur own.
U might win millions of souls in that regard,that doesn't mean it was approved by Him.(One of the greatest problems we face to as a church)
What happened was u used the gift received from Him to manipulate and convert pple to Him.that doesn't mean It was approved by Him.
Big difference.

Righteousness2:


All these Grammars and Explanations makes no sense.

You dont need any special calling to preach the Gospel

The Moment you have a genuie relationship with JESUS CHRIST, you have a duty to Preach tge Gospel Everywhere Anywhere and Anytime.

The Matter of Eternity is not a grammar Matter. It is an Urgent Matter.

It's you that aren't getting the message.
In the old testament God told Moses precisely how to build his alter, same way he's precise over our lifes,we do nothing without him saying "GO" even if u are anointed to do such.
We must pray n WAIT for His "GO"

Trucking by road to other state, very unsafe act.

Righteousness2:
The command is Preach the Gospel!
In season and out of season!
Anywhere and Everywhere!

Whoever hears and does the needful, Good for him/her
Whoever does otherwise! That is hos or her problem.


When you Depart this earth without JESUS CHRIST, na your bodi go tell you.

If one isn't called or given the command to preach at a particular place it's a waste of time.

Bless Jesus

Bless God

The principle of giving and recieving is" Love"
God loved so He gave His Son and now He has so many Sons.
Giving out of love is a complete waste of time.

zombieHUNTER:


The north is not APc
No where is APc

you have not been following lately

people are dropping dead on the streets
kidnapping is the best booming business
fuel is gold in a country that has crude

Dude the three things you mentioned are more severed in the north.they have the population.lets see how it goes next month and 2027

Janosky:

1 Corinthians 11:3

"However, I want you to realize that Christ has authority over every man, a husband has authority over his wife, and God has authority over Christ.

Good News Translation
But I want you to understand that Christ is supreme over every man, the husband is supreme over his wife, and God is supreme over Christ."


Jesus Christ cannot be exalted above Jehovah God his Father.
Jesus said Jehovah OWNS EVERYTHING, John 17:7.

You are making it seem as if Paul contradict the holy scriptures.
Phillipians 2:9 does not support your claim.
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What's the difference between Jesus Christ and Christ Jesus in the bible?

zombieHUNTER:


APc is dead everywhere already

no fuel

no food

no security

Tinubu is a useless president

Dude, the north is APC and APC is the north,if they reject anyone is game over

APC needs another strategy or they are dead in the north

Jesus Christ is Lord and God

Amen

Bless Jesus

He should use his monthly security allowance and create something for the time being in the state

Janosky:


Your opinion can not change anything from Romans 11:34-36, 1 Corinthians 8:6 , Hebrew 1:2 & Colossians 1:15.

Oga, do you agree that the first born of every child is not a child?

That is the misleading, twisted interpretation your fellow Trinitarians are giving to Colossians 1:15.
Jesus the first born of every creature is himself a creature.

Except you buy the faulted , misleading claim that the first born of every child is not a child.

Philippians2:9For this reason also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Dude, Jesus Christ is God.and every other name in the universe is under His canopy. Even Jehovah is under the canopy of the name JESUS.
If you get it fine if not just do Ur thing.

Looks like an attack from a dog

Brothers, Let's look at the book of Galatians 3:15 to -22. .
Verse 15 says, "Brothers, I speak according to man, though it is a man's covenant, yet when it has been ratified, no one nullifies it or makes additions. 

Assuming I signed a contract with you to build a duplex in Nija . I can't come back tomorrow to say I need additional money that building materials has gone up. Also you can't come and say prices of materials and workmanship has gone down , we must. Review the contract.No!
If our contract can't be easily review how much more God contract with man. 


Verse16.. 16Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as one would in referring to many, but rather as in referring to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.. 

God promised Abraham that he would bring forth Christ and that through Christ the nations would be blessed.the SEED is singular not plural meaning one, which is Christ. 

Verse17.. 17What I am saying is this: the Law, which came 430 years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise.

The law came 430years after God promised Abraham Grace in Christ.we know a promise is something that's related to the future. So before that promise manifested. There's an urgent need to introduce the law. 


Verse18... 18For if the inheritance is [y]based on law, it is no longer [z]based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise. 

Yes. 

Verse19..  Why the Law then? It was added on account of the [aa]violations, having been ordered through angels at the hand of a [ab]mediator, until the Seed would come to whom the promise had been made.. 

If God covenant to Abraham through promise can't be changed, why was the law added? It was added because of violation/transgressions. Just like a "Catalyst" a catalyst is always added to some chemical reactions, to fasten the process , it's never part of the main materials or products. 
God gave the law to the Jews because He wanted to show the world through the Jews that He gave the law because of violator /transgressions.it was never the dish. But was added to achieve the main dish. 


Verse20.. 20Now a mediator is not for one party only; but God is only one. 

These verse is very lovely and beautiful. There's always two party in a contract. Here,Party A(God) n party B(man ) .if it's left for us , party B, we have no hope to uphold our own part of the contract.because of Sins/TRANSGRESSIONS.but He(GOD) came to our owe side of the contract, because He loves us.and up all our sins/transgression to His cross.fullfiling both side of the contract.
That's why verse 20 says "BUT GOD IS ONLY ONE" which means that party A and B are One!!!
God(in Christ) party A came down and took the side of party B(man) in the contract for fulfilment.

Secondly, Philippians2:9...says..9For this reason also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
The above verses affirms that every other name in the universe is under the canopy of the name "JESUS".
I mean every name you as a sane person can mention.

Sand2022:


Interesting perspective.

Yeah bro
We learn every day
Your perspective in John 1:1-2
Is very correct.
Without Him creating anything there's NOTHING.

Sand2022:

There is of course another option that can be explored even if we exclude the issue of creation about Jesus. As to the fact that he is not created, that is not negotiable. The scripture can't be understood underwise.

The Son is not said to be created, but Begotten. Man begets man. So God beget Jesus, who is of His nature. Now God doesn't give birth nor get pregnant. And the Sons begetal is from eternity. Prov 8.

Many have got different theories about this.

However, some early church fathers have theorized that Jesus was generated from the father through an eternal generation. You will have to notice that they will always add the word "eternal" to the generation. Why? Because there is no other way to say it without seeing some aspect of scriptures fight against you.

Some say the Father divided himself through His Word (Logos). I don't even understand that concept.

My own assumption is that the Father divided himself and called the other Facsimile Son. Perhaps since He initiated the splitting, it explains why He often receives praise most of the times for something done, while the Son shares in it. It may also explain why He took the function of Father and gave the Son to His facsimile. (I will explain the scriptural proof of this Facsimile word choice in my next article)

Perhaps that is why He occupies the role of Head and His Son that of submission.

Others like Prof Wayne Grudem, and Wares have stated that God has always existed that way with these functions in place from eternity.

All these are suppositions, the bible didn't go into such details. What we can be sure is that the Son has been there from eternity past. He was not created.

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In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

6Who, being in very nature a God,

did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

7rather, he made himself nothing

by taking the very nature b of a servant,

being made in human likeness.

8And being found in appearance as a man,

he humbled himself

by becoming obedient to death—

even death on a cross!

9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place

and gave him the name that is above every name,

10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,

in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

11and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,

to the glory of God the Father.Phillipians25-11

Verse 6 above proves Jesus equality with God.
Verse 7 says He took the position of a servant, meaning He took the position of a Son and God becomes the Father( they are titles). question is why the title Father and Son?
I believe it has to do with redemption or obedience.
I strongly believe before creation God perceived (or foreknowledge)the disobedience of created beings(angels and man).
And without obedience the universe cannot hold,so God has to find obedience in the universe when He creates it.

Hebrew5:8 says Even though Jesus was God’s Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered.
Meaning in the beginning God don't know how to obey, because there nothing to obey to.
So Jesus learnt obedience in the world.
I perceived that an agreement or arrangements was reach in the Godhead that Authority by the Father Has to be answered by Obedience in the Son.in so doing obedience was created in the universe.when Jesus said "it's finished" on the cross.meaning redemption has been accomplished by the creation of obedience.
The creation in genesis was completed on the cross of cavalry.

Ybigp5:
So your God died and came back to life on its own?

No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.” John 10:18

Why not build new ones with that amount of money?

Ojiofor:


Trump presidency will bring much needed leadership to the world that will help stop the wars in Russia/Ukraine and Israel/Palestanian wars.

True and maybe assist us to tackle insecurity, also strengthen our electoral system

Ojiofor:
Radical liberal like Kamala will mess up America and world worse sleepy Joe did.

It's just to save face for the democratic, the election is gone for them.electoral votes will finish her then.

Good one OP

Regarding the OP, one other thing I grasp is.no matter how bad our condition is,as long as He's there,that condition is as good as gone.He told Martha "I am the Resurrection and life" meaning it doesn't matter if Lazarus has been dead for 4days or 40years,as long as He's there Lazarus must raise again.

If your president is a donkey, then what are you?

chatinent:
Can someone explain to me what it meant to have oil and have a refinery if we still import from the US?

Please oga, reframe Ur post and ask them again.i don't think they understood you.
These guys are our biggest problem not the presendency or government.
Nnpc must be privatised period, that's the only way.to move forward.then full privitetization of NEPA(That's the second strongest cabal)