₦airaland Forum

GrammarNazi1:
Something must have led...

greiboy:
Yet, certain numbers of America soldiers were captured in Vietnam, Including one current senator and a one time presidential hopeful under the republican party (senator Micain)

The truth is that the American military never successfully completed a mission in the 21st century.

I am not really talking about the alleged destruction they leave behind as a result of the failure of their mission.

They completed the Korea mission and world war2

NASTYNASOSO:
HMMMMMMM

BLOODY CIVILIAN YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHATEVER I TYPE.

Koolking:
I pass over this kind of comments. It reeks of childishness and absolute lack of cognitive content.




It gives me nausea. Am never surprised other kids find such comments reasonable hence the 'likes'. I used to learn a lot from Nairaland. Arguments were intellectually overwhelming then but now arguments are mind-numbing and worrisome, portending danger to the future. Nairaland needs matured moderators to regulate users' comments.

buhariguy:
Hahahaha .

Not only prophet of una time,
Na Jesus of una time.

Lazy things,

They want to protest for their dead Jesus who could not see his death coming.


This is the real definition of lazy idiotic pigs of Biafra.

Instead of to beg buhari for his corpse to be release for proper burial.

midolian:
A spoken word they say, is like a stone thrown. Once it is thrown, it can't be retrieved.

FEMI FANI KAYODE had these to say when he was being fed by the APC:

On the Controversial Nigeria Governor's Forum Election and why he left the PDP"

You have 35men that went into a room. Distinguished individuals, respected people. And they did a vote. It was a secret ballot. Everything was straightforward and it was filled. One got19 and the other got 15. And the one that got 15 got up and said 'I won the election' and the other gentleman didn't win.(That Rotimi Amaechi did not win). Now when you see things like that, that certainly doesn't encourage me or others to want to stay within this fold of people who would say by their own knowledge and vocabulary that 15 is actually higher than 19"

On the Quality of the leadership in APC compared to the PDP"

In terms of quality of leadership as far as I am concerned, if you compare the leadership of today's PDP to the APC leadership, there is absolutely no comparison. Its time for CHANGE in this country. We are praying and hoping that we agree on a candidate and we go to the field and will defeat the PDP once and for all and put them where they belong"...now his prayers are answered and he has been losing sleep over this.

On the level of corruption and style of governing in Nigeria"

This government (PDP) will be flushed out (by 2015). We'll have a new president and Nigeria will have hope again. If it doesn't, and if President Goodluck Jonathan continues like I have said before, 2 things will happen. Firstly, Nigeria will become worse than Zaire within a year or two in terms of being a failed state and it will be irretrievable. We won't be able to fix it anymore after that. It would be that bad." There has been more corruption under this government than any other government in the history of Nigeria.. And that's somethingNigeria pple have to live with. They are INCOMPETENT, they are CORRUPT, they are IRRESPONSIBLE, they have turned our country into an abbattoir where blood is flowing everyday. Nigerians are being killed by Boko Haram"

He also had this to say"

When 2015 comes, when they lose, when PDP loses to an APC candidate, and they try to jiggle it and wriggle it and see that NO, the loser actually won, then we ll know"

And Finally, he had this Advice for all"

The only way forward for this country, for each and every one of us now, is to join hands with the APC governors, join hands with Buhari, with Tinubu, EL-Rufai and all the others and move the country forward and fight the PDP

Watch video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeGnV7R7iFE

lalasticlala

After watching this..I hope we ll be reminded never to take any politician seriously..as the only thing they care about is themselves.

GOATandYAMtheory:
The internet never forgets

FFK is just a clown that changes tune according to the dictates of his tummy

thatNUPEboy:
Ffk is a f00l

Qrisful:
This is one of the 15 million mumus who voted an international embarrassment as president, a religion and tribal jingoist, i am not even move by the killing because the middle belt allowed themselves to be used a a willing tools in hands of the invaders the hausa/fulanis, next time they will understand why the igbos has been shouting to free them from shackle of northern vampires.

Demmzy15:

Fundamentalist:
Albaqir and lies are like 5 and 6

I need not comment further

I hope my brothers will understand

Fundamentalist:
I seems like you don't understand or may be still you are not ready to comprehend my message to you

"Does it make any exceptions? For example, regarding freedom of religion"
So if you want to enforce the law of Riddah then that's extremism!
"Does it believe that changing religions is an individual right?"


So if a Muslim wants to become a Jew, if a Muslim wants to become a Christian, if a Muslim wants to worship a cow, or a monkey or a snake, they should have the right to do so! If a Muslim who was guided to the straight path and honored by becoming Muslim and he knew Allah the Almighty and he followed Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be on him), if such a person whom Allah Almighty has blessed, wants to worship a cow after that, he should have the right to do so !

"Does it believe that the state should enforce the criminal law component of Sharia?"
So there should be no Hudood!

"Does it believe that the state should believe the civil law component of Sharia?"
Regarding for example, marriage issues, polygamy.
"Or does it believe there should be non-Sharia options?"


Praise is to Allahl What are we talking about here? In a vegetable market buying potatoes and onions?! What are you talking about non-Sharia options? No country in the world, gives you options regarding law. There is one law, regarding every issue. Here they want us to have options, so you walk in to court and you are handed out a multiple-choice question 'Which law do you want to follow' ! ! !

Allah Almighty says,
Allah Almighty says in this ayah (verse)
"But no, by thy Lord, they can have no real faith until they make you judge in all disputes between them and find in their souls no resistance against your decisions but accept them
with the fullest conviction"

No Muslim is a Muslim, if he does not accept the law of Allah Almighty. No Muslim, is a Muslim if he refuses to accept the Sunnah of the Prophet of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).

Farmerforlife:
Nobody sustains or supports this, their poverty stricken parents just think that it is an acceptable form of bringing up a child when they don't have enough money to feed them. It is just custom.

Nobody's fault except their parents. It is not the duty of every rich Northerner to share out all his/her wealth with everybody.

IdeyFindWife:
Even a bearded goat with a microphone will mop the floor with Bubu in a debate environment.

His brain's natural desertification discourages the the growth of any vibrant intellectual flora!

Fundamentalist:
I'm only replying because you quoted me .

Sincere advice: just because someone "quotes" verses of the Qur'an doesn't automatically means he understands the meaning, anwar awlaki included. His views and those of Abdullah Faisal , Abu hamza, muhammad yusuf (boko haram ), etc are one and the same . They are very good in preparing lectures but that doesn't mean they understand they ways of the righteous companions and scholars of high eminence of this generation like shaykh Albani, ibn baaz , salih fawzaan , ibn uthaymeen etc and even those of past generation like ibn taymiyyah .

Why is their lecture so much centered on democracy ?

Let me educate you on what they are trying to pass to you , what they are saying in essence is that if you call yourself a Muslim but the society you reside in is a mixed(unislamic) society your Islam is not complete . If you like pray, fast, do all sorts of Ibadah your faith is not complete even if you believe in your heart with firmness that democracy is unislamic . This is what they are saying

Let me remind you that the prophet stayed in Makkah for 13 years preaching Islam, the majority of dwellers were pagans , the ka'aba was full of idols (360 ) and yet revelations were still coming . This continued till the 8th year after hijrah . What are the lessons to be learnt

The ka'aba is the most holiest site in Islam , Allah described it as a sacred house and yet idols were in it . How did the prophet react ? Allah describes him as someone worthy to be emulated in all his ways (the sunnah )

Al-Ahzab 33:21

لَّقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِى رَسُولِ ٱللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِّمَن كَانَ يَرْجُوا ٱللَّهَ وَٱلْيَوْمَ ٱلْءَاخِرَ وَذَكَرَ ٱللَّهَ كَثِيرًا

There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.

Why is this verse missing in anwar awlakis lecture ?

The prophet focused on educating people on Allah worship (Tawheed ) for that period of time . This lasted for 21 solid years . Revelations were still coming. We had some companions whom died during that time in a disbelieving land . Were they more interested in politics of the pagans or seeing people understanding the religion of Islam ? Please answer

Between someone who believes in Allah, establishes regular prayers, fast, etc but lives in a society full of disbelievers but yet a devout and dedicated Muslim and strives to see that people accept the religion and an individual (s) who calls himslef a Muslim but lives in a so called "islamic society " but yet doesn't apply Allah rules and regulations to himself neither does he believes in them , which of these two are in accordance with Allah's word and the sunnah ?



This same ideology or similar is what is been preached by the Muslim brotherhood and their subsidiaries around the world today .

Since hassan albanna started this ideology in 1948 supported by saeed qutub , how has their new found ideology faired . In fact Muhammad qutub, the brother of saeed qutub, was quoted to have said " if the Muslim brotherhood had focus's itself in educating the people about their religion, we would not be where we are today "

If truely what these individuals that you are glorifying their knowledge are saying is true , what has been their impact to the greater Muslim society , positive or negative ? Please answer . If you say positive please mention these "good "developments.

Their lectures are very popular among vibrant youths in colleges, universities and polytechnics in Nigeria especially the MSSN.

Very good examples of people whom followed this steps of the prophet include

Muhammad ibn Abdulwahab . The present day Saudi Arabia was full of graves were " Muslims " worship saints and dead individuals etc was prevalent 300 years ago. All he did was educate the populace about Allah and his messenger .He didn't see the end of his struggles but his descendants saw it . And that is the Islamic Saudi state you are witnessing today same applied to Usman bin fodio in northern Nigeria Hausa kings mixed Islamic religion with traditional Hausa culture which has elements of shirk , he preached not only that the king didn't like it but they also aged war on him . Part of what he ledt is what northern Muslims are enjoining today .

Ahmad ibn Taymiyahh Also comes to mind , also is imam Ahmad, imam malik , imam shafi you can't can't compare their ideologies with that of anwar awlaki and his entities .

The so called scholars you are quoting are looking for shortcut in the name of dawah . Even the messenger preoccupied himself in teaching basic aspects of the religion.

What has anwar awalik left for Muslims of this generation

Beware of whom you take your religion from

So a Muslim who defends his lands, a Muslim who refuses occupation, a Muslim who wants to live according to Islamic rule, is an extremist. And the moderate Muslim is a Muslim, who invites the US army to come and invade his land, and is happy to follow manmade laws and is a person who has no honor and dignity to defend himself against aggression. This is a moderate Muslim!

And by the way, they are willing to go to the extent of sending their armies to enforce on us their particular version of Islam that we are supposed to follow.

Demmzy15:
I've read a detailed explanation of this some years back, I'll search for it and post

Lets look at the interesting case of these women. Number one, dear brothers and sisters you all know that women are not to be killed! The
Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) has prohibited the killing of
women yet these were specifically mentioned in this list to be killed. Number two, we know that women, if they join in the fighting against Muslims they can be killed, but these women were not fighting and did not participate in any fighting. In fact, they were in a
state of complete surrender!
Number three, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had given
peace and security to all the people of Makkah and he singled them out!
Also add this issue that they were not free women but they were slaves, and the issue of freewill
plays an important part in the rules and legislations of punishment in Islam, as the slave does not
have freewill the punishment are reduced. These women were not free in choosing to sing
against the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) but they were ordered
to do so by their masters, Abu Lahab and Abdullah bin Khatal, and yet they were singled out and
told to be killed!
Ibn Taymiyah talks about this ìItís a clear and strong evidence that the greatest crime of all is
blasphemy against the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) because
with all of these factors -the fact that he gave security to the people of Makkah, and the fact that
they are women, and the fact that they did not fight, and the fact that they were slaves- they were
singled out for capital punishment! This tells you that this is a great crime!î Then we have another man who was on this black list his name is AlHuairith bin Nuqaydh. He
used to also harm the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) with his
tongue. He was hiding in his house; Ali bin Abi Talib came to his house asking about him, so they
said he was not there and that he left to Badiyah-to outside Makkah. And they told Huairith that
Ali bin Abi Talib (may Allah be pleased with him) came looking for you. Ali went and hid behind the house. When Huairith wanted to run away to another house, Ali bin
Abi Talib cut him off and killed him. 14
Another example is Kaíb ibn Zuhair. Kaíb ibn Zuhair was a poet, his brother was a poet and his
father Zuhair bin Abi Salma, was one of the greatest poets, he was one of those who had the
Muaílaqaat. The Arabs used to honor the best pieces of poetry by hanging them on the Kaíbah;
this was to express the beauty of this piece of work. Zuhair bin Abi Salma was one of these who
had his poems hanging on the Ka'bah, his sons Kaíb and Bujair were both poets. But Bujair was
a Muslim and Kaíb was a non-Muslim and used to make poetry against the Messenger of Allah
(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). So when the Muslims entered into Makkah, Bujair wrote a letter to his brother and he told him that
the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is killing the men of Makkah
who had poetry against him. Kaíb was not in Makkah at that time, but his brother sent him a letter
beforehand warning him that, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)
is killing all of the people who spoke against him and that the ones who are left like Abdullah ibn
Zabariyyah and Mughirah ibn Abi Wahb, are trying to flee and run away because the Prophet has
issued his orders to kill anybody who speaks against him!
So this is another example of the greatness of this crime!
The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was merciful and used to
forgive his enemies, but with this particular crime things were different. And then we have the story of Uíqbah ibn Abi Muíeet and Nadr bin Abi Harith.
In the battle of Badr, there were seventy prisoners of war from the disbelievers of Quraysh. The
Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) asked that they be presented to
him, so that he would look at them one by one. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was starring at Nadr bin
Harith. Nadr bin Harith looked in to the eyes of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of
Allah be upon him) and saw something, so he told the man next to him, ìListen, I am going to be
killed, I can see death in the eyes of the Messenger of Allah! î The man told him ìNo, you are just exaggerating, you are too afraid, you are just terrified!î He said ìNo, I am telling you, I saw death in the eyes of the Messenger of Allah (peace and
blessings of Allah be upon him)î. Then Nadr bin Hartih called Musíab bin Uímayr who was his relative and he told him ìGo to the
Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and tell him to treat me like
everybody else, treat me like a man from my people, if he is going to kill them then let him kill me,
if he is going to forgive them let him forgive me!î. Musíab bin Uímayr told him ìYou are the one who said what you have said about the Messenger
of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and you are the one who spoke against the
Book of Allah!î Nadr bin Harith was the one who used to hold the Halaqa 15 next to the Messenger of Allah
(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) to compete with him. He traveled to Persia to learn
stories and then he came back and told the disbelievers ìMuhammad (peace and blessings of
Allah be upon him) is telling you tales, I have some better tales to tell you, come and listen to
me!î He told him ìPlease Musíab speak to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be
upon him)î He said, ìArenít you the one who used to torture his companions!î The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) called Nadr bin Harith and
told Ali bin Abi Talib to execute him. He was singled out!
At that time they were traveling back to Madina. When they reached a particular area he
executed Nadr bin Harith and then when they traveled a little further he summoned Uíqbah ibn
Abi Muíeet for execution. Uqbah said ìWoe onto me, why am I singled out for execution! All of the men here with me are
your enemies, all the men here with me have fought you, all of the men with me are from Quraysh
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So a Muslim who defends his lands, a Muslim who refuses occupation, a Muslim who wants to live according to Islamic rule, is an extremist. And the moderate Muslim is a Muslim, who invites the US army to come and invade his land, and is happy to follow manmade laws and is a person who has no honor and dignity to defend himself against aggression. This is a moderate Muslim!

So from what you see, a moderate Muslim to them, is in reality a non-Muslim! Because according to these four definitions, the definitions that they gave, this is Kufr this is not Islam! So from now on, I am not going to call it a moderate Muslim but I think a more appropriate term would be a "Rand Muslim".

Then they have a questionnaire, to hand over to a Muslim for him to answer, and then they would categorize him as being a moderate or being an extremist, and praise be to Allah, you would not fail to see the arrogance in all of this and the condescending view they have of Muslims, here they are testing our Aqeedah , they are testing our faith and they are giving us the scores!

The questionnaire is:

"Does the group or individual support or condone violence, if it does not support or condone violence now, has it supported it or condoned it in the past"
So they are not going to even leave you alone if you speak against violence now. If you have a history of violence in the past then you are going to be held responsible about that.

Next question,

"Does it support democracy, and if so does it define democracy broadly in terms of individual rights?"
Following question,
"Does it support internationally recognized human rights? "

Next question,

"Does it make any exceptions? For example, regarding freedom of religion"
So if you want to enforce the law of Riddah (10) then that's extremism!
"Does it believe that changing religions is an individual right?"

]1) Democracy
So a moderate Muslim is who believes in democracy and believes in the democratic system.
Now, there are some Muslims who adopt democracy and they say that Shura , the Islamic system of Shura, is similar to democracy, so we could use the term democracy as Muslims, in reality we believe in Shura, but they say it is more appealing for the West, when we talk about democracy, because they don't understand the Islamic concept of Shura. I am quoting to you what some Muslims believe and what some Muslims say. And they believe that they could get the aid and the assistance of the West to change the dictatorship that exists in the Muslim world if they mark themselves as people who want to bring in democracy and there is a serious problem with that, because[/b]

1) Democracy isn't Islamic, democracy is a system and Islam has brought us a completely different system. And a few in reality, believe in the system of the Islamic state and Shura, then say Shura call it what it is and don't call it democracy. That's number one.

2) This trick is not going to pass on these people at Rand because they have given a detailed definition of what democracy do they expect from a moderate Muslim!
The Shura Council is the council of elite Muslim scholars that are consulted by the Amir in the matters of the State.

3) So they say and I am quoting here "A commitment to democracy as understood in the liberal western tradition"
So don't tell me democracy, as I understand it from Islamic point of view. No! That is not satisfactory! What we want is a commitment to democracy as understood in the western liberal tradition!
And they went further to say "Support for democracy implies opposition to the concept of the Islamic state"
So a moderate Muslim, is a Muslim who believes in a democratic system that is opposed to the Islamic state!

And then they say

"It follows from the above that for a group to declare itself democratic, in the sense of favoring elections as the vehicle for establishing government as in the case of the present Egyptian Muslim brotherhood is not enough."


2) The second characteristic of this moderate Muslim is '"''acceptance of non-sectarian sources of law''''
Meaning you follow man made law willingly and openly and they say here in the report "the dividing line between moderate Muslims and radical Islamist is whether Sharia should apply "
So to them any Muslim who wants Sharia to apply, is an extremist and a moderate Muslim is a Muslim willing to accept French law or the British law or International law or call it whatever, as long as it is manmade.

3) The third characteristic of a moderate Muslim is "respect for the rights of women and religious minorities"
Now we believe in rights of women and we believe in rights of religious minorities, but not according to their definition. According to their definition, if there is an Islamic state that enforces hijab, that is extremism. If it charges the Christians and Jews jizyah (tax) they are extremists !


4) And then the fourth characteristic of a moderate Muslim is "opposition to terrorism and illegitimate violence"

Zubairu Gwari, emir of Birnin Gwari in Kaduna state, has asked his subjects to defend themselves against suspected bandits invading their communities.

One of the 23 local government areas in Kaduna, Birinin Gwari has recorded a high level of insecurity in recent times.

It was in the area that 11 soldiers were killed earlier in the month.

In an interview with Daily Trust , the first class traditional ruler said he asked his subjects not to “behave like fools” and get killed.

“A month ago, in one area called Anguwan Gajere, the bandits attacked a village, and the villagers fought back, in the process they killed more bandits than the people of the town,” he said

MDsambo:
Just look at the confused souls above. They don't even know the meaning of Emir

Oba Akanbi said until Yoruba Obas come together, shun enmities and backbiting, Hausas would continue to rule Nigeria.

yarimo:
If not for majority of Nigerians begging BUHARI to continue as president till 2023, he won't be thinking of any re election in 2019.

ItsMeAboki:
They are too blind with ethnic hatred and bigotry to appreciate and therefore key into the venture which would add economic value to their state along with additional job opportunities for the youths down the value chains.
I hope the president quickly goes ahead and implements the program leaving out the ignorant ones rejecting now out of spite and hatred to later have no reason cry marginalisation but only regret for their lack of foresight.