OkCornel: And the same God who His infinite wisdom gave humans sexual organs for procreation...
Don't you think there are do's and dont's on how these sexual organs be used?
If you think homosexuality is ungodly...what of incest and bestiality? Do you still need a holy book to tell you these acts are perverse and senseless?
You are giving god( all that is in existence) a muscular figure again. “ He” for god( a verb). Or perhaps you want to explain why god is a “he” ?
There is no such thing as a “holy bible”. Today’s laws are much better than the bible. Love, togetherness, hope, peace is what we should express. Not hell fire, judgment, division.
Homosexuality is a sin in the bible because it belong to the past. Togetherness, all inclusiveness is godly
OkCornel: Perhaps you are making mockery of National Geographic channel and Scientists as well...
Why not examine the evidence before you dismiss it?
I respect science and it’s little achievements always. They have so far made us lazy and comfortable. However I will not be told what to think. Either Mary got seeded by the Annunaki or she mated with an Earthling. I can see the plan to justify the bible story here.
Anyways, I believe a woman can never get pregnant on her own...but I also came across a documentary on the blood of Jesus Christ... The blood was tested by a team of DNA experts, and no chromosome traceable to an earthly father was found in the blood sample... Please tell me how this is possible...what could be the cause of this?
It's a National Geographic Documentary... I can put the link to the documentary if you care to watch it... All the answers as to how the blood sample was obtained and tested are in the documentary (less than 25 minutes documentary)
We ain’t babies here. A documentary on the dna of Jesus and how a woman can get pregnant on her own ? Really!! Please let’s discuss serious issues
OkCornel: The "bible god" being against Homosexuality is on point...
What value does homosexuality add to humanity? Do you know of any human born through that means?
Supporting homosexuality is as good as supporting the use of a toothbrush to comb one's hair.
The sexual organs have their purpose and function...and anything outside the way it is intended to function is abuse and perversion... That includes rape as well...
I don't even need a Bible or Holy book to tell me homosexuality is "ungodly"... it serves no useful purpose whatsoever to humanity...
But you said god has no gender, which means god is both Male and female energy, god isn’t bias....,So why are you against homosexuality, why are you against a human expressing themselves the way they choose. Don’t you think tolerance is a godly attribute ? Because you don’t like something doesn’t mean you must stone others who do it. Don’t be close minded. There should be no room for discrimination.
correctguy101: Lord Mardukai can't possibly be heir to the Nibiru throne. He's Lord Enki's seed and Lord Enki isn't a full royal blood.
Open to corrections.
And his grandpa is Anu - the self acclaimed almighty god. He was born in Nibiru and that was a big deal to the Anunnaki culture. Marduk was like prince William to the queen of England. Taking out Enlil and Enki, he became the hair to the throne of the Annunaki. I am not just making up this. I have access to the real stories of Nibiru that’s why. I didn’t get my info on the internet, I have seen and got direct interpretations. In fact some of the stories about activities of the Anunaki are in Colchester university of Essex. I have seen them, so I’m not making up. I know someone who is even writing a book with them.
OkCornel: If the Bible is inspired by Enlil... then how come did you conclude earlier that Jesus is Madurk the son of Enki? And why would Enlil want to include the work of Enki's son in the Bible?
Try not to get lost in the manipulative words...
God Almighty never changes... it is man's perception of Him that changes...
That is why it seems the God of the Old testament (Judaism) appeared to be blood thirsty and vengeful...while the God of the New Testament (Christianity) appeared to be more tolerant, accommodating and loving not only to the Jews...but to every race and tribe...
Marduk is another big story I will take time to tell. Jesus is one of the biggest scam that has worked on humanity. But on a soul level, these are hurdles we the incarnated soul chose to experience for further spiritual development.
Marduk unlike the other Anunaki was born on Nibiru. So he was supposed to be the heir to the throne. However I will discuss this some other time. But you do know that a woman cannot get pregnant via a dream right. So obviously someone mated with her. So the story of Jesus I will tell another time.
OkCornel: I will refer you back to the answer I gave earlier.
1) The Master of the Universe/Multiverse 2) The Uncreated One 3) The Starting point of the Multiversal cycle 4) The Starting point of the story of creation and all forms of Consciousness... 5) The Eternal One and Father of all creation (I personally think God is not a gender-specific being: I am open to correction here)
Bear in mind that God never changes...however, it is the way man perceives and views Him that changes over time...That is why I am not inclined to label God with religious name(s) like:
1) YHWH (According to Moses' revelation and the Jews understanding of who God Almighty is), 2) Olodumare, Abasi, Chukwu (According to our Nigerian ancestors' understanding and revelation of who God Amighty is) 3) Aten (According to Akhenaten's understanding and revelation of who God Almighty is) 4) Anu (According to the Sumerian's understanding and revelation of who God Almighty is)...
All I know is that HE EXISTS... and Jesus gave a very accurate explanation of His unchanging nature...
You are mixing up the essence of human being with an androgynous entity. God is a corrupted word, that’s why I don’t use it. It basically means “ ALL THAT IS . You and I are a part of it and not in anyway subject to it because we are it.
But the bible put Yahweh in place of your / our essence and Roman Catholic Church delibratly replaced Esoteric knowledge with fake knowledge.
The entity Moses/ Akennakten encountered was Enlil not is true self. There is s big difference. These beings are so advance that they could infiltrate into your mind to manipulate you.
Do not forget the story of pharaoh. The part Enlil/Yahweh manipulated Pharoah’s heart is that he could kill the first borns of the land. You said God almighty doesn’t chose side, but that god clearly chose side.
If we’re to use God in its ideal sense. We can say it is gender less, but the bible uses “ he”. We can say God is not partial, but the bible made us see that God is not only partial but also becomes emotional. We can also say God is love and humility, but it’s clearly not the case in the bible. In fact the bible god demands worship , animal sacrifice at some point, love roasted animals. These are questionable characteristics. The Tower of Babel, saving only Noah, killing those who disobey it with fire ( atomic weapons? ) are just not GOd-like.
You said god is genderless. I personally think you are referring to our true form without a body. Yes we are all genderless beings. We have a gendered body to function on this physical plane which shouldn’t be our identity. But this bible god is against homosexuality, that’s ungodly, don’t you think ?
I agree with you that God is the creator of this reality, this experience we are all having, it’s genderless, non bias, all loving, non judgmental and I must say that is a perfect description of yourself. God in prison of negative illusion about to wake up to its true self.
For us to have a good discussion we must put down all our belief system( I have none). The Anunaki are the god of Genesis chapter one. No one is a fallen angel. The bible is an account inspired by Enlil obviously. No one is god or Satan. These are manipulative words.
CAPSLOCKED: YOU'VE QUALIFIED FOR COUNTLESS ROUNDS OF LAUGHTER AND ENDLESS RIDICULE FOR THIS "LACK OF INTELLIGENCE".
YOU DARE NOT THINK DIFFERENTLY FROM WHAT THE MASTERS ON TOP WANT US TO BELIEVE, YOU DARE NOT.
I think for myself, I don’t let others do that for me, even if laughed at. It’s part of what those in power dislike. God and Evolution is a big know for me.
OkCornel: I'm not concerned about what's in the Bible per se... I am seeking the TRUTH.
That's why I have compared the Genesis Account with other extra-biblical sources like the book of Enoch, the book of Jasher, the Antiquity of the Jews. I have also considered the Epic of Gilgamesh, The Urantia Papers.
I also considered Universal Science, Astronomy, History and Archaeology...
My head is not fixed in the Bible alone... And I still have some unanswered questions in the story of creation in which only God Almighty can answer...
1) The Annunaki never created the planet 2) There is no Creator and that the Earth and the Universe are wonders and illusions...
So therefore, on this premise, Anu is not God Almighty...but just a visitor to this planet...
If anything, the Annunakis and the fallen angels per the account of Enoch and Genesis are one and the same set of people...
One last clerification. Anu is the god almighty of the Christians. Sometimes they mix it up with Enlil( otherwise known as Yahweh/ Jehovah). These were beings who visited the earth according to the oldest written history of man found. Okay ? The idea an almighty god came from the stories of the Anunaki visiting the earth. The singular God was created to hide the identities of these beings. They themselves came from other civilisations.
Man just want to worship anything. There is no creator, no god, nothing, except you and I.
If anyone wants to worship a God, look to your neighbors and appreciate them. That is you appreciating God. Primitive men worship god because they saw them with technology. Today people worship god because the idea was passed down to them by their ancestors
The bible is not a religious book, it was compiled by those who wanted to hide knowledge
OkCornel: Actually there are different viewpoints to this story of creation and the creation of man, and the great flood... and I must admit, your point of view is also convincing...
However, let us put on our detective caps and see my viewpoint as well. Then you can also ask your questions.
1) In the beginning God (not the gods) created the Heavens and the Earth...
There is no creator. The Earth and Universe at large are the wonders( illusion) of consciousness/ our various minds. Experience of a human being is what we humans choose to be aware of. This is esoteric knowledge. The bible scholars did well to mix up the various spiritual knowledge and Anunaki knowledge to create a god religious people created into reality. Otherwise this god ideology doesn't exist. It is a tool of control. I never said the Anunaki created the planet. They like us are Oneness, experiencing itself as many. The only person who is your creator is your true self, otherwise you are eternal.
2) God said let us create man in our image and likeness...
3) He created man from the "dust of the earth" (bear in mind that the Annunaki story talks of creating humans by manipulating the DNA of already existing life form by Enki...thus, they were not solely responsible for how man evolved from simple/single celled life forms into complex life forms we currently exist as)
You are obviously telling the story of the corrupted version of the anunaki and other non- terrestrial life forms genetically modifying humans. Creating man from dust and breathing into it is a pure measure of control. I'm sorry to say I am disappointed you believe this. Isn't it obvious it was science ? Creating a body that can be powered by consciousness shouldn't be hard for a civilisation superior to ours for billions of years.
4) God Almighty who created man (and obviously has his user manual) planted two trees in the centre of the garden, but instructed man not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil (this is where everything falls apart - why create the bloody tree if you don't want man to eat from it YET)
5) A serpent comes along and tricks Eve into eating the fruit. Eve also gave her husband to eat...
6) Their eyes "opened" and their first reaction was shame and guilt...
7) God curses man and the serpent...and gave a seed of prophecy that a seed of the woman will crush the head of the Serpent...
8-) This prophecy of hope and restoration (i.e. seed of the woman) is told from generation to generation prior to when the "Sons of God" fell in love with the daughters of men
9) The Serpent being tricky and very deceitful appears in various forms... deceives the watchers (Sons of God) and the women...that one of these unholy marriage can result into this seed of prophecy...
10) But what was the end result? The untainted bloodline of the Adamic stock becomes corrupted by the "Sons of God" and Nephilims/Giant tyrants roamed the earth displaying their wickedness...
11) The goal of the serpent was to corrupt the bloodlines of the woman (Eve) and thus ending the channel through which the seed of hope will come...
12) If the Serpent had succeeded (if not for Noah), then God would have destroyed Earth and restart the creation process as He did between Genesis 1v1 and Genesis 1v2...
PLEASE TAKE OUT TIME TO PATIENTLY VIEW ALL THESE POINTS AND ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS...
Thanks once more
Sorry I cannot have this discussion any further, my time is precious. You can believe what you like. Good luck sir !
OkCornel: Hi ifenes, I have included Enoch's account of these angels which seems to be very similar to what these Annunakis (translated to mean from the sky they came) did while on earth...
This is Enoch Chapter 6 to 8.
It's possible Semjaza (leader of these angels) and Anu are the same personality...I may be wrong on this one though... Why I am considering this is because...these angels had offsprings on earth which were worshipped as half god and half men/women... A case in point is Ishtar who happens to be a great grand daughter of Anu...
Anu and Semjaza might just be one and the same personality fraudulently claiming to be God Almighty...
Anu is regarded by the Anunnaki as the king of Kings. Anu himself forbid giving knowledge to the slave humans. Anu himself stayed in Nibiru while he appointed Enlil( Yahweh) to be the overall governor of Earth, while Enki was the chief scientist in charge of multiplying the slaves. So Samjaza must have been another phasing who felt pity for the humans. Procreating with them was the great sin. I have a feeling those who spoke to Enoch were the Rebels who rivalled Anu.
Putting aside Humans, the Anunaki were involved in wars with other star system in the Great War of the Orion belt. They were at work for millions of years with the Pleiades who may have purposely created hybrid human race to rival the Annunaki. Do not forget the book of Genesis also claimed the Sons of god were scared of the city the human ( hybrid humans plus rebel Anunaki ) were building. They came down to destroy it. Why ? Do you know ? Because Enlil himself was cared of humans becoming intelligent enough to rule a Nibiru.
If we take the word “God” out of the equation. We will get better understanding of the bible. God is a reference to Anu and Enlil. Most times Christians mix them together. But who and what is God ? Why is it said heaven is made of gold ?
CAPSLOCKED: SO, IFENES.. THE EVOLUTION THEORY DOESN'T COUNT?
Evolution of humans from the missing link or bacteria? No. That would have taken billions of years extra for us to have the chance to reach this point. That’s only human theory anyway
OkCornel: Which part of the video claimed the Annunaki's came after the flood?
Or were you are referring to the part where Nimrod built the tower of Babel to avenge the death of his ancestors and defy God should in case another flood comes?
We'll continue later this evening... I am happy to get your point of view as well... Thanks for taking out time to watch the video and also contributing your thoughts on it... I appreciate it...
We'll continue later tonight...
Thanks
Can you explain what you mean by “God”. Because to continue my discussion I need to know everything terms we use.
OkCornel: It's a point of view...however, what makes the video biased and your point of view objective?
Note: I am not arguing, rather I am after sufficient and persuasive evidence.
I am still awaiting your response to my last question
Thanks...
His story is based on one book, while he ignored the ones that did not only predate it but gave detailed analysis on the stories. According to him the Annunaki came after the flood. He did everything to portray Yahweh as a supreme god. But If were agree with him, Yahweh must have created other gods who became his rival, Black people are enemies of Yahweh..... the list goes on.
If he read the Sumerian tablet he will read that Enlil was Yahweh, who took Abraham from Sumeria( a beautiful civilisation formed by enki) to form a new cult called Israel. Sumerian tablet will let you know Enlil/Yahweh didn’t have the brains and scientific abilities of Enki ( who is known as Satan )
These guys came to mine gold and created a labour force. That’s what it is. Yahweh himself was under the command of his race emperor, Anu
I came across this 19 minutes animated video from Truthunedited...
Please take out time to go through it. It will be very helpful in sorting out the OP...and the back and forth we had on religion, Anu, Enki, Sumerian religion and all sorts...
If you go through this video from beginning to end and you feel it's not worth... feel free to insult me, I don't mind... It's insightful...
The video was done from a biased point of view. It got funny when he said Yahweh came down to destroy the Tower of Babel but never said how. These kinds of YouTube videos are ways of hanging unto a failed religions.
I shall continue shortly. And as for the flood, it only happened in a part of the world. The lab of Enki was huge. Enki was specific on the size of the boat and how it should be built. It took Noah and his worker years to build the boat. Enki must have made him take his lab experiments on the boat. In fact the purpose was to save the experiments on the earthlings he had been working on. Noah just happened to be a genetic experiment/ hybrid son of Enki to carry it out.
For an advance civilisation like the Anunaki I’m sure they also had plant seeds preserved not just sperm cells of animals. Today people can store sperm cells of dead relatives with IVF clinics.
OkCornel: Hi ifenes, I have included Enoch's account of these angels which seems to be very similar to what these Annunakis (translated to mean from the sky they came) did while on earth...
This is Enoch Chapter 6 to 8.
It's possible Semjaza (leader of these angels) and Anu are the same personality...I may be wrong on this one though... Why I am considering this is because...these angels had offsprings on earth which were worshipped as half god and half men/women... A case in point is Ishtar who happens to be a great grand daughter of Anu...
Anu and Semjaza might just be one and the same personality fraudulently claiming to be God Almighty...
Personally I have a feeling they were in the camp of Enki who wanted the humans to have knowledge of science and technology and how to develop spiritualy. You know different names were given to the Anunnaki by different regions in the planet. So it’s difficut to pin point but one can only guess as the Vatican have the complete books in their store.
The phone, internet are also tools of the HIGER MIND. Your vibrational frequency is matching some creative parallel aspects of you and you are seeing the sign. It’s just like tuning ratio FM randomly and you begin to catch a radio station gradually. It starts with not so clear music until you match it 100%. Just let it be and enjoy the ride. Life all about experience after all.
Emmanystone: You dodged saying who wrote the book of Enoch. Who authored the book of Enoch?
Enoch is a first person singler account. He used “I” “me” which are more of a personal experience in writing.. These books will be fun to debate if you don’t see it as religion and gods to worship. I could have a friendly talk on anything but it gonna be difficult because your swore allegiance to the bible. You are here to defend Yahweh while I defend no one. All there Anunnaki are not important. They are just a tiny bit of consciousness
godisgood200: The Epic of Gilgamesh's Ark was Square, the Geneis Ark was Rectangular.
In Genesis YHWH brought down the flood because of Sin While Epic of Gilgamesh was for population control. lolzzzzzzzzzzzzz, they gods created more people than then could carw for, so killed some. Wonderful.
Their Arks landed on different mountains.
Are these stories the same?
Ifenes and OtemAtum?
The bible is a remix of the Sumerian Tablet. Even a five year old will spot that. Sumeria was the first recorded civilisation. Noah was a Sumerian, Abraham was a Sumerian. The bible was inspired as a tool of control to do exactly what it’s doing to you now.
Emmanystone: Ifenes are you scared of me? Why are you evading me? You make claims but refuse to last long enough to defend them.
If you are so sure that The Sumerian History is real and true, then let's xray on and with the crucible of Activities.
Where is Anu now?
Your father Abraham himself was a Sumerian....,let that sink in. What about Anu ? That’s the father of your god. Read and find these stuff out yourself.
Emmanystone: You are flipant in propagating lies ifenes.
I will need us to keep YHWH aside for a while and talk about Anu. What were Anus activities after the flood? Where is he today?
Most of the talk here is about creation and the flood. I need to know the activities of Anu after the flood.
Owing to the fact that, YHWH continued dealing with the Israelites till date, How did Anu deal with his creatures, both in Sumaria/Meaopotamia Assyria and today.
Why don’t you read the Sumerian tablets yourself. It’s there onlin. Or buy the epic of gilgermesh. You don’t seem to want to know stuff but rather to argue.
OkCornel: ifenes, sadly there's something I am not comfortable with...
Earlier, you mentioned the Enki was symbolized as the serpent (which means knowledge)
Going by the Biblical account, there was a seed to come forth from the woman i.e. Jesus who would crush the head of the serpent...
1) Is there a similar account of this in the Sumerian text?
2) Could this mean Jesus and Enki are enemies?
I am not too bothered with the similarities in both creation stories, I am running through the conflicting stories on both accounts...
It seems you are looking at it from the bible point of view. Enki was labelled the serpent as a symbol of a person with knowledge.
Jesus apparently is Madurk the son of Enki. Don’t forget Jesus/ madurk was also genetically engineered. The bible claimed god was Jesus father right ? Obviously it’s not a spirit but an Anunnaki. Unless you want to believe a spirit got Mary pregnant.
Anything god or son of god in the bible is Anunaki. They are behind all the gods on earth. Religion is the main source of keeping the humans in check. It’s time to revisit all belief systems we have been emotionally attached to.
AnonyNymous: Please can you mention a few physical properties of gold that make it able to resist gravity between itself and other objects.
I don’t have much knowledge on the properties of gold but I do know the white powder was weightless, carried in the ark of covenant, used by the gods for long life etc.