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Religion made one very powerful promise: suffer or obey today, enjoy your reward after death. The interesting part is that once you die, you cannot return to tell the rest of us whether the promise was genuine. This is genius 😂

Truthseeker10:
Can you explain what you mean by "Humanity"?

Humanity means seeing the person before the belief. Humans shape religion, but religion also shapes humans. If a belief teaches that some are saved, pure or superior while others are condemned, then the belief itself deserves questioning.

Religion is another way of dividing people into believers and unbelievers, saved and condemned, pure and impure, superior and inferior.when a belief system gives one group a higher human value than another, it becomes less about spirituality and more about power and hierarchy.
Different labels,same old human habit: divide, rank and control.

Humanity does not need another identity to separate us. We need more humanity.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are not getting it. As long as you are human, you must always operate on/with reason. And reasons are based on known set consequences even if you are not consciously aware that you are operating on them. And that is the basis of promise of a heaven (goodness) or fear of hell (punishment)

Thus, A stranger helping someone he never meets again is based on the reason that be knows that is good to good and that when you do good Life has a way of giving you back that same good, even if he no longer remembers that, that is his reason for doing it, since he does not have a transactional reason or some other identifiable reason.

So, in every human action or non-action, reason/reasons are always there even if people are not always conscious of them

Imagine two men find a drowning child.

The first jumps into the river because he cannot bear to watch another human being die. He expects nothing, tells nobody and walks away afterwards.

The second jumps in because he believes the universe will reward him for doing good.

Both saved the child. The action is identical, but the moral psychology is not.

You keep arguing that every action has a reason. I never disputed that. The question to you is whether every reason must involve anticipated personal consequences. That simply does not follow.

Virtue was not supposed to be a bargain with fortune. You do what is right because it is right, while accepting that life may give you absolutely nothing in return.

If I return a lost wallet because I expect heaven or future reward, then goodness has become an investment. If I return it knowing that nobody will ever know, and accepting that I may receive nothing, that is something different.

A reason explains an action. A reward purchases one. Confusing the two is where your argument fails. This is where religious folks fall short. Be hood for goodness sake and not heaven’s sake

Dtruthspeaker:
Unfortunately, you are wrong for no one lives doing things in vain. Everything, must be done for something

You are confusing having a reason with expecting a reward. Of course actions have motives, but not every motive is transactional. A stranger can help someone knowing they will never meet again. My point is goodness reaches a higher moral level when the reason is compassion itself, rather than the promise of a heaven or fear of hell. Doing things from compassion makes you a "high functioning" human. Meanwhile, doing it from a position of fear of god is the opposite.

Today is a double 9 day. A day to look inwards and share knowledge, so I have decided to share my thoughts with others who are on the crossroad and confused about the meaning of life. Those who are ready to abandon organized religion.

We spend our lives searching for God, heaven and answers beyond ourselves, while remaining strangers to our own minds.

The solution is not another belief, or religion. it is awareness. Question what you inherited from your parents/ family. . Study yourself. Confront your fears, ego and conditioning. Seek knowledge freely.

No one can awaken on your behalf. The journey inward must be walked by you.

It's been a while Nairaland.....till we meet again.

adeoyekay:
Thank God you said religious people, there is difference between religious people and being.........

Oga ‘Religious people’ doesn’t mean every religious person behaves this way; it describes a tendency within organised religion. Of course sincere believers in God exist who do good without bargaining with god. My point is simply that goodness motivated by reward or fear is morally different from goodness chosen freely, with nothing expected in return. Which category do you fall in ?

Confusedhamburg:
Hi all. My name is Sydney and I’m a Nigerian living in Hamburg. I need advice on next course of action for my life. I came to Germany from Nigeria some 6 years ago for my masters. I finished finally in 2025 after so many ups and downs. I couldn’t find a professional job afterwards and my visa expires this year end, although I’m finding ways of renewing for few extra months by telling them I couldn’t find job.

I’m 40 unmarried but fortunately has been able to save around 60m naira.

Please, I need the OGs in the house to advice me on a good English speaking country I can relocate to which will be my final bus stop as I’m tired of moving around.

Although I acknowledge I made a mistake here by not learning the language (I’m in A2 but can barely speak). I’m thinking of Canada but not too certain.

My background is in a business course / economics (bachelors second class lower).
I’m still doing research though but I need people who have been in my shoes to kindly advise. I can barely sleep, thinking about next steps. I work and save around 900 euros monthly but it’s not a professional job and very stressful.

Thanks.

My brother, from one Nigerian to another, I would advise you not to make another major move out of panic. You already spent six years building a life in Germany, and €900 monthly savings is actually not bad. Your biggest mistake was not getting serious with German earlier. Before throwing Germany away, I would give the language one final serious push and investigate every realistic route to extend your residence and enter professional work.
Also, don’t let that ₦60m make you feel too comfortable. Once converted to euros and used for relocation, rent, immigration fees and months without employment, it can disappear faster than you think.
Canada, UK, Ireland or Australia may solve the language problem, but they will not automatically solve the career problem. At 40, I would no longer relocate simply because a country looks attractive. Permanent residency pathway, employment prospects and long-term stability should determine your next move.
You have money saved, a master’s degree and European experience. You are not starting from zero. Make your next move your last strategic move, not another escape from frustration.

Lastly I beg you in the name of your ancestors not to take any woman to Europe. Me being in the UK since 2005 have seen it all...from personal experience to other people's experiences. 40 is very young. Learn that language, keep saving your money and sort out that residency. YOU CAN DO IT!

fattprince:
If it wasn't for the dates, I would not believe you are on nairaland till August. I thought you were never coming here again. I have gained a lot of insight in your posts on here. In fact after like a year of reading your post, I searched for you but it wasn't bringing your username up. I started reading your post about 2 years ago when I was in hell I created unknowingly for myself and I've come a long way since. I've not gotten to Heaven but I'm sure I'm past the halfway there. Though I just seem to attract different Christians at this stage of my life and the funny thing is at least 3(Christian group) of them are telling me about how theirs is the truth and how the other is false. And though I told them at least 2 groups that I don't want to fall under any label of religion and I believe I'm God and God is me but they just continue trying to convince me to follow religion path. Now my problem with them now is them trying to make me take a decision of identifying with one of them. These people have never met o, but when they invite me to service and I tell the other I would not be able to come because I'm attending another service that's how they come about me deciding to choose one. When my decision is to choose none but how can I tell them. I just want to leave my life but this people are leaving me exhausted. In fact I'm thinking of running of next week or upper for at least 2 weeks to rest mentally as I have to achieve financial breakthrough this year.

Your freedom to think is worth protecting. If these different groups al claim absolute truth yet contradict each other, reason demands that you question them rather than surrender your mind to one. Choose none if none convinces you.

Cum4me:
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.

Animals don't care about god or satan...they simply exist and live their lives. But humans have created god and satan to give meaning to what they do not understand.. The universe does not need god and the devil. To animals, humans are the devil

Think of it...If god really exists, the Atheists might be his favourite people.

Why ? Mos religious people treat god like a vending machine, always putting in prayers and expecting rewards. They help someone only because they want a sit in heaven. Every action is like a business deal with god.

But Atheists, they don't believe in any rewards system. When they help someone, it's not because of heaven or escaping hell...they expect nothing in return. Now tell me, who will god respect more ?

Funny how it is those who don't believe in god are actually doing what god wants....Being good for no reason at all is the new flex.

Gabrielshow26:
This would be true for those that do not ask questions. Or for those that do ask questions but to the wrong people.

I won't lie, my conversion to xtianity was not by men but by God's conviction. Why don't you ask God? If He doesn't use men then He will answer you in a different way.

Human emotions and imagination often make us mistake feelings for divine revelation. If God is truth itself, then the way to know God is through reason, not private experiences. A belief should be accepted because it is rational , not simply because it “feels”like God told you so.

I feel like a major sign of low intelligence is like- when you don’t question religion at all. Like at all ? Nothing ?
I’m not saying you can’t follow , But you just blindly following and you got no questions. That’s weird.

Kobojunkie:
All of the above amounts to meaninglessness when put against the standard that is Jesus Christ though. You would need to have your own ability to create in order to manifest all of that of your own power

You create your reality, even the reality that Jesus is superior to you. As you wish the universe will give to you.

You don’t want to drop on your knees crying, wish and begging. You don’t want to be throwing money in donation plate. You are not doing that because that low frequency, low power.

How you pray is this. You command everything you want into existence because everything in the universe is inside your body. So you command it!

I command healing over my life

I command that I get this car or house that I need

I command that this opportunity works out in my favour

That is exactly how you do it. High frequency is knowing you have the power inside you.

Manifest! Don’t pray to no one

NNTR:
Luke 18:1
Now Jesus was telling the disciples a parable to make the point
that at all times they ought to pray and not give up and lose heart,

PRAY, as evident here on this thread, especially the original post, is sometimes confused with prey, when in actual fact, to pray, has nothing, whatsoever to do with predatory, as, pray, in effects, stands for Praise, Repent, Ask and Yield.

Prayer is so much more than bringing selfish needs

The meaning of PRAY is to beg someone earnestly or desperately to do something, even is to ask someone earnestly or anxiously to do something. It often operates as a function word in introducing a question, request, or plea.

For illustrative examples:
Matthew 26:39
'And after going a little farther, He fell face down and prayed, saying,
“My Father, if it is possible
[that is, consistent with Your will],
let this cup pass from Me;
yet not as I will, but as You will.”'

Matthew 26:42
He went away a second time and prayed, saying,
“My Father, if this cannot pass away unless I drink it, Your will be done.”

Prayer is a two-way spiritual relationship, that involves giving our attention to God by talking to God or communicating with Him and at same time, also listen out and listen to Him

The devil is widely recognised to be an incognito predator lusting after souls. From the very beginning to date, the devil has been greatly at work in this world, going after your soul, you, being that you are soul and vice versa.

The devil's plan for you, your soul, is degradation, despoliation, devastation and damnation. On the other hand, God's plan is salvation (i.e. literally, throw a lifeline)


Not all followers of YHWH, aka Yahweh are man of God, woman of God, son of God, daughter of God or child of God, but all man of God, woman of God, son of God, daughter of God or child of God, are a follower of God, who essentially are operating and executing a law that isnt just only superior and stronger but in addition, is actually wielding a law, that is, more powerful that all the 10 commandments rolled in one

You missed the memo, that we are in the dispensation of grace and liberty, meaning, we are no longer operating under the law (i.e. the 10 commandments). We've since moved on to following the royal law. Love really conquers all

God is incorporeal, significantly meaning that God is a Spirit, and so, by default, and relatively speaking can be connected to by similar means, which is, the frequencies, oscillations and vibrations rates of your spirit man

The higher and longer your frequencies, oscillations and vibrations level dictates and determines how well you function in your connection with and/or to God

The Spirit of God is omniscient, as in, it is, omni know all things.

Demonic spirits, on the contrary, and admittedly, might not necessarily know what £20 is

This here, following, is what Jeremiah 29:11, says about God concerning His own
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you,” says Yahweh,
“thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you hope and a future.

John 10:34
Jesus answered them,
“Is it not written in your Law, ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS?
[human judges representing God, not divine beings]’?

Please dont get it twisted and all crooked up

The context of Psalm 82:6, mirrored and echoed by John 10:34, simply is talking about the ability, capability to made sound judgment, make correct and good decisions, arriving at correct and good conclusion

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I hear you. Religion and the New Testament especially is a soul trap keeping you from advancing and evolving

YinkaOlusesi16:
The Gospel must be preached throughout the corners of the world. Like it or not.

Real knowledge is not forced

paxonel:
What is the sole purpose of Christianity?

You know, when the purpose of a thing is not known, abuse is...

To control the masses, real knowledge is hidden and studied in secret. Christianity takes your freedom away but real knowledge frees your mind.

Jesus was married, never got crucified. As a matter of fact the Sinai bible which predates the king James's version of the bible proves there was never a crucifixions. It was added to the bible by the Romans as they added their Pagan and non pagans holidays and everything else into one book and decided to get people under one roof in order to keep then united rather than fight them. Then they can take their money every week and make them pay taxes.

Jesus was married and had kids and stories to the east recounts Jesus was a student of mystery schools ands upon leaving, he travelled to Tibet where he learned healing and meditation. This is coming out of ancient texts that predates the bible.

Jesus was literally mimicking what he learned from the book of Thoth. Thoth who predates Jesus was known as the wisdom keeper. Thoth's spiritual teachings included baptism is in the Emerald tablet. He talked about being baptised via elevated consciousness. It had nothing to do with splashing water and dumping your head into the pool.

If you put the Atlanteans words side by side with the bible you will see that Jesus is simply mimicking what he learn from the ancient mystery schools which he learned directly from the Egyptian mystery schools, from THOTH. Jesus was basically saying nothing new in the new testament. All those information spoken by him were information that he was taught.

His fellow Extraterrestrials

It’s only a book and can be cancelled

OpenYourEyes4:
Because the word of GOD has not been rejected. I believe the Word of GOD is changing alot lives here(from bad to > sober > good) , from what I have seen. I will never abandon them unless the Word of GOD has been rejected. I believe it has not been rejected.

I will keep preaching the whole truth. More People will be saved GOD willing. <This is what is important

Only if you knew what god is

yummy001:
Although, I've not had the opportunity to have a one-on-one interaction with Ifenes. One thing is sure though, he is definitely not an atheist. The fact that he doesn't believe in the conventional religious system does not make him one. An atheist believes solely in the material world, and sees anything extraterrestrial as made-up nonsense.

But if you follow his comments deeply, he's someone with some deeper esoteric knowledge. Ifenes, is it okay if I resend you a mail? Will really love to have a discussion with you on some spiritual topics.

Spot on! Mine is filling the vacuum between The Atheist and Religionists who happen to be the two sides of a coin. As for the religionists who feel a god is responsible for humans and needs constant praises, I see it as a misunderstanding of who and what a God is. For atheists who only see the material world as an island on its on must also understand that the physical is a result of the mental world.

Yes do resend the email please.

Mer- people do exist along with other unusual beings. We share the planet with animals that look totally different or similar us. Why should mermaids be different. In the water body alone resides the octopus with several brains, different varieties of life forms exist and should never be a surprise.

amstamon:
Pls try reduce the way u dey smoke your weed.. Too much of it no good

Apparently we smoke the same weed.

Worshipping Jesus the SUN is the same thing as celebrating Christmas, which is about celebrating the movement of the Sun.

Merry Christmas AKA MARRY’s SOLAR PLEXUS AKA THE SUN THAT WAS BORN IN THE 6TH HOUSE SPACE WILL RISE FROM THE CRUX AKA CROSS CONSTELLATION DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME AS THE STAR ON TOP OF NATURE ( Christmas tree literally)

Means knowing yourself. God is your true form which is beyond our physical body. There is no God outside of you.

Heaven is not a place but a state you allow yourself to be. You can experience joy, peace of mind, happiness while the guy sitting next to you is in a state of sadness, fear - that’s two people physically in the same location experience different state of being. You see heaven is not a place you go when you die but where you can be right now.

And if you can remove the fear of death, life will be seen in a different light. We have all died a billion times, why fear what you do all the time ?

AdoOloro:
Before access is granted, I have to make proclaimations.
Christianity section is free to enter.
What is happening or what do you think?

They have the freedom to be the way they want to be and you should let them be as long as they ain’t bothering you.

Your bible said follow peace with all men right ? Simply let them be. I notice they don’t bother themselves with what Christians do, which to me you should learn from.

LoJ:
Hello bro,

we have not read from you here in ages. Most of the great people here have left, or contribute no more. The place has lost interesting comments and perspective, especially with respect to spiritual issues.

How are your businesses booming?

Hello my bro!

I kinda lost interest but then again these are my people and I had to check in again to see how things are. Sometimes it’s good to go away for a bit. Business is fine and I was in Germany for a Fibo event. I didn’t have your number, I would I have holla at you. How is your side ?