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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 12:06pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
jpmoriarti:You know the correct thing and you will still go about spewing bizarre notions to suit agenda. You should be a Chelsea fan. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 12:04pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
jpmoriarti:I agree with this, Bartomeau didn't manage the relationship with club legends properly. I don't know how he managed to convince Koeman to coach the club |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 12:01pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
FirstbornWds:Noooo, who was mediocre? You do know that under Bartomeau Barca won the same number trophies that Barca under Laporta won during Laporta's tenure? The exact same number of trophies. How is that mediocrity? And Bartomeau didn't launder money. The main wrong that he did is his slander of club legends and that's terrible. But economically, Bartomeau has been Barca's best president. Economically!!! So that someone won't say I said overall. Just from the economic standpoint of financial gains. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 11:58am On Aug 14, 2021 |
jpmoriarti:It wasn't wash, it was factual and it was true. Remember that every team make financial statements to La Liga, and those financial statements are public records. Barca was in debt of 1b euros and considering the income of 2018 and 2019 the club would have come out of that debt if 2020 hadn't been Covided. Not come out but with proper planning, it would have been addressed. So essentially, it wasn't made up. It was true. Bartomeau had economic plans but no sporting project. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 11:55am On Aug 14, 2021 |
FirstbornWds:PSG activated his release clause. When a player's release clause is activated it means the entity that activated it want to buy all the rights of that player that his employer is holding. It's a common economic requirement in Spain and some parts of Europe. When PSG activated Neymar's release clause, Barca didn't have the right to say no. The only person that could refuse was Neymar and he didn't. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 11:53am On Aug 14, 2021 |
Awesome01:Covid isn't an excuse, it was a fact. Before the pandemic of last year got terrible we generated over x2 or x3 of the 180m of last year in 2019 and 2018. Last year it became terrible and our players weren't exactly marketable. Remember that Madrid was also in debt of over 800m but their players were more marketable than Barca's players and they sold a lot of them. Chelsea were in debt of over 400m before the FFP ban on transfers and with Lampard and that woman through player sales they were able to get out of the debt. Bartomeau didn't invest the influx of money properly and that's what gave rise to this fiasco with Coutinho and other high earning players. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:56am On Aug 14, 2021 |
Awesome01:poor planning. And his biggest wrong for me isn't even the overbloated wage bill, the biggest wrong is that he paid social media accounts to blackmail and insult people he should have protected their intrest and shielded them from the outside criticism. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:54am On Aug 14, 2021 |
Awesome01:I think Bartomeau is better. I can list some of his accomplishments. At least under him, Barca became both the most valuable club in football and had the highest influx of income 2 and 3 years ago. Has Buhari done something like that for Nigeria since 2015?? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:48am On Aug 14, 2021 |
Oldboss:Bartomeau had excellent financial plans for the club but the sporting aspect suffered. Barca is a sporting project before it's a financial project. The finances are necessary to support the sporting projects but they planned very very badly, the frightening wage bill was poorly planned and signing Greizman wasn't well thought through. But they sha gave us De Jong and Pedri that's all. I am certain that 142m they used in signing Coutinho would have brought us someone good from the academy or some cheaper midfielder from Ligue 1 or Bundesliga. That's poor planning but economically, Bartomeau had brilliant ideas. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:43am On Aug 14, 2021 |
And personally, looking at some of Bartomeau's wins as Barca president, I think he is a better leader than Buhari |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:42am On Aug 14, 2021 |
FirstbornWds:Bartomeau didn't sell Neymar. |
TV/Movies / Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by IKON360(m): 2:01pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
VerifiedStalin:We all are. Next week Wednesday will be lit |
Celebrities / Re: Why I Am A Lesbian – Temmie Ovwasa (Photos) by IKON360(m): 1:16pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Nigerian lesbians are never fine, it's so unfortunate 8 Likes |
TV/Movies / Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by IKON360(m): 7:28am On Aug 13, 2021 |
VerifiedStalin:It was brilliant. Better than Black widow. And not even 40 minutes long 1 Like |
Car Talk / Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by IKON360(m): 6:00pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
Yungbitz, BMW's are fun cars to own but you need to pay extreme attention to them. And have a trustworthy mechanic that actually knows what he is doing. One guy in our church was BMW mechanic and that was the only car he ever used and he didn't use them for a long time too. If you are such a person, then you can go for the BMW if not, just go with the Acura |
Car Talk / Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by IKON360(m): 5:52pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
Yungbitz:The Acura |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 5:49pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
FirstbornWds:Braithewaite isn't earning much, but he wants prestige. He wants the attention and West Ham |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 7:57pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
GrammarNazi1:Violence has entered |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 5:27pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
So Messi is the Barca player with the most appearances. He is also the club's highest goal scorer and highest assists provider. That's 672 goals in 778 appearances He is La Liga's highest goal scorer, and also it's highest assists provider and also the scorer of the most hattricks in La Liga. He has also won 34 trophies in 17 seasons and of course was part of the Barca team to win the every tournament available to club in a particular season. He has scored more goals in a season than any player in the competition's history and holds the record for the most goals scored home and away in a single season. In 2011/2012, Messi went on a 21 match scoring streak yielding 33 goals, no player has come close before and after Messi. Man's scored 36 goals from free kicks in La Liga and against 36 different La Liga teams. He is also the most impactful substitute in La Liga history scoring 30 goals from 35 sub appearances. He is the highest goal scorer too in El classico, scoring 26 times, in which he has 8 goals than Ronaldo and Di Stefano and 11 more than Raul. Messi is the second highest goal scorer in UCL second only to the phenomenal Ronaldo but Messi's 120 goals from 149 appearances gives him a better goal per game ratio at 0.81 which is only beaten by Alfredo Di Stefano's 0.84. He has been the top scorer of UCL 6 times and wad the first player to score 5 times in one game against Leverkusen and then also destroyed Arsenal by scoring 4 times in one game too. He has been nominated for Puskas award 7 times and weirdly never won it but he has won the European Golden shoe 6 times. He has 151 caps for Argentina and scored 76 times of course, Argentina records too. He has won the Ballon D or 6 times. The Ballon D or trophy weighs 12kg and Messi is 65kg thus we can say that Messi is worth more than his weight in gold 15 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:11pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
Debroslink: I think, you don't just like Gerrard. That's it, you don't like him at all. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 5:16pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
Debroslink:You won't use only the national team as basis to compare these players na, Modric has never won an international trophy and will most likely never do so. Gerrard was basically wallowing in a pool of badluck with Liverpool because for a lot of his career was freaking phenomenal for Liverpool, as an 8, as a 10 and as Deep lying playmaker, just for you to get his versatility. And he was brilliant playing all these roles. So I don't get how you want to use only national team triumphs to criticize a phenomenal player |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 5:08pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
GrammarNazi1:Scholes and Lampard contributed to lots of trophies for Man utd and Chelsea respectively. Gerrard not so much but he was phenomenal nonetheless. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 5:06pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
GrammarNazi1:Brother, being below Xavi and Iniesta isn't a bad thing. I love Pirlo, Busquets, Zidane, Guti, Ozil and some other excellent midfielders even De Bryune. But except Zidane, the rest of them are all below Xavi and Iniesta. Xavi and Iniesta are basically the walking peaks of midfield brilliance since I started watching ball. For Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard to be below them isn't a bad thing it also doesn't mean that they are overhyped. It just means that while being phenomenal for their teams, they aren't as good individually as Xavi and Iniesta 4 Likes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 3:07pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
patrickmuf:This is the point of view I wanted debroslink to look at it from. It's not always about trophies, if not Dani Alves would be the greatest footballer this century. But he isn't |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 3:05pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
pu7pl3:The same Modric that Fede Valverde has been outshining for the past two seasons? Modric in his prime wasn't better than Gerrard or Scholes |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 3:03pm On Jul 28, 2021 |
GrammarNazi1:I don't think you are right, Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard weren't overhyped |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:47pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
FirstbornWds:I don't know the exact year but I can remember the occurrences in that year. That season, Man utd and Madrid played, Giggs played as a CM. Ronaldo had joined Madrid by then. That was also the season that Modric was voted as Madrid's worst signing. Mourinho was Madrid's coach too. I think |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:41pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
FirstbornWds:Uh, Giggs was a winger, Left winger, and by most it was just that last year. The season that Ronaldo played against Madrid for the first time. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:40pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
GrammarNazi1:Yes, it will but it doesn't diminish the fact that a great player is a great player. Casemiro is believed to be one of the best ball winning DMs in the world but if you compare his ball winning ability with that of Kante, you find out that Kante in form is far far better than him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:37pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Debroslink:You didn't use trophies to compare Scholes and Modric, but you used national honours. If you used trophies, Scholes wipes the floor with Modric but we are using football ability and we watched both of them. I don't know how you see it but Scholes is a far better midfielder than Modric. Scholes retired, came back from retirement and won EPL with Man utd as one of their best players that season. Since Ronaldo left Madrid, there have been tears upon tears. For Gerrard and Kroos, Kroos has played in better teams than Gerrard sha but in terms of their individual quality, from dead balls, short and long range passes, general creativity, Gerrard pips Kroos. Gerrard and Scholes are actually very good footballers, no hype or noise. And they signified the peak of the dominance of English football until Xavi and Iniesta scattered the show. 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 12:35pm On Jul 27, 2021 |
Debroslink:Scholes is better than Modric and in no dream or such is Kroos better Gerrard. Or trophies are the only metric for grading players now? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 10:24pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
FirstbornWds:I think they were just poor but it was still a friendly. My own is that Barca should win that La Liga and reach semi finals of UCL |
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