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Jodera:
If he'd seen enough minutes (not saying he would have been a starter last season oo), there's big tendency that Spain wouldn't have taken Carlos Soler. Spain hardly carries overage players to competition historically.

Also, there's also tendency of taking the spot of Bryan Gil, who I know is a winger, but Spain favors having more midfielders to winger.

But the biggest hit will be Carlos Soler due to his overage status


There's no way that Puig will see reasonable minutes last season and wont get into that Olympic squad.

Soler wasn't even a starter, the starters were Merino, Pedri and Zubimendi of Sociedad. I don't think Puig would have benched any of them sha. He would have been with the team but benching these 3, nope.
Actually, Spain since Del Bosque still relied in their wingers but those of kind wingers were magnificent with the ball but some were pacey enough to trouble defenses. Like Pedri.
But I don't think Puig would have benched Pedri or Merino or Zubimendi.

pu7pl3:
He used to be loved by his father especially, when he was still growing up he was a pacifist before he started getting enamoured with nihilism and death which drove him mad and he killed his mother, skinning her alive, that was when he became an outcast...

Wow, thanks for this information

Jodera:
Messi and Puig is entirely different. Puig needs to save his career, even if it's loan. In as much he loves barca, but he needs to know that his career comes first before barca. You can imagine even young Puig( at 22 yrs) couldn't make the cut for the Olympic squad. Even people inferior than him made the squad but he couldn't. If he continues like this and Koeman still deny him minutes, he'll las las be forced to be sold away from barca which is what he is avoiding.

You can't compare that to messi who is/was a keyman, best player and influential to barca team and can decide if he wants to go or stay.

So they're two different contrasting context!

Who are the players inferior to Puig that made Spain's Olympic squad?

Jodera:
Is it not what most people are saying? If he's good, he'll go and come back possibly, and if not, he'll shine elsewhere as dem olmo and others. Let him think of his career first esp if he's always going down the pecking order. Not everyone will be fortunate as xavi

Let him remain, there is nothing better than being at Barca for him. There have been a lot players that left Barca and went down hill

FanOfMyself:
I personally prefer Ford, Chevrolet, et al to all these Toyota, Honda, Lexus wey full everywhere. But I have a question, how much is the cost of maintenance of ford compared to brands like toyota and lexus? Also how available are the mechanics with enough experience to take care of it.

Prefer a Chevrolet to a Lexus in Nigeria at your detriment

pu7pl3:
What I replied you with was that Thanos is a Deviant hybrid, no dey do all these Shakira twists....

Have you not seen normal Human beings that give birth to mutated babies despite the fact that both parents were perfectly normal? You dey fall my hands tbh
I've forgotten the particular issue where it was stated that he had the Deviant gene/Syndrome....
But this was Thanos at birth...he looks nothing like his brother or cousins cos he was born a hybrid

Thanos was an outcast from his own people abi race. He was stronger than normal and more intelligent. He was better than them so he was made an outcast. That's until their population problem started and they destroyed themselves before he went on his population halving journey

jpmoriarti:
Comfort zone in the sense it applied to Puig cannot be viewed same way as it is for Messi. Ruiq Puig needs to leave Barcelona to save his career. Messi clearly did not need such. Messi already have the career anyone in the world football can only dream of. So it is 100% wrong to ever allude that Barcelona was Messi's comfort zone.

For avoidance of doubt, this is the dictionary definition of comfort zone as I inferred it to with regards to Puig' situation.

I dont see how this definition can be used in the same sentence as Messi's 20years meritorious career at Barca.

Puig staying in Barca isn't staying in his comfort zone, did Xavi leave his "comfort zone" when he wasn't being played? Did he leave his "comfort zone" when Barca fans booed him and even blamed Rijkaard for playing him in some matches that Barca performed poorly in? Puig staying in Barca isn't staying in his comfort zone, how many La Masia players have left the club and thrived elsewhere? They are so few, Olmo, Thiago even Garcia left and came back, Fabregas left and came back, Alba left and came back.
Koeman won't be Barca coach for ever and Puig has a strong following unlike Xavi he will still come good. Shaw was basically mistreated by Mourinho and now Shaw is among the best LBs in EPL. Boy's just 22. He will still play and he will play well

pu7pl3:
Make I on location? Na 2 by 2 you wan use?

No on am, go and help yourself. The plank no go solve the main problem.

pu7pl3:
Modern striker that no big club is serious for... meanwhile Morata is on different coaches to buy list every season

You're asking for logical points but you no wan answer question wey I ask you since

Na to plank you remain

BlueAngel444:
those who actually watched Euros 2020 are the ones saying Lukaku is better than Harry Kane

I like Lukaku but omo Kane is better than him abeg. Kane's passing alone obliterates Lukaku

FirstbornWds:
Your choice. I wouldn't pick Higuain either. But then, Benz doesn't have his stats.

True sha

jpmoriarti:
Where do u put Lukaku. I guess above Benzema. Lukaku is the best striker right now in Europe in my opinion. Powerful and quality

Kane is better than Lukaku.
Haaland is among the best 9s in Europe now

FirstbornWds:
In a saner argument, even Higuain would be rated far above whatever 'barking lion' that Benzema is. Suarez and co have never been his mate.

I will take Benzema over Higuain. In fact in every world and time I will take Benzema over Higuain

pu7pl3:
Yen yen yen...Benzema is.better than all of them except Lẹwa, it's not a hard pill to swallow

How is Benzema better than Suarez or Ibrahimovic?

Well we have 5 subs so I would expect that they would all be used in this match. Especially when we are in the ascendency.

Kilishihunter:
It's not even about favoritism, pedri played the most games of any outfield player coming into this new season, most times we tend to forget that as good as he is, this boy's just 18yrs of old and is still in his developmental phase,In the Olympics final I saw few traces of fatigue in him despite him trying his best in the midfield, there's a reason barca didn't want him to even go for it though it was him that agreed, Not that he'll be overworked again at this tender time, breaks down and starts churning out mixed performances leading to harsh criticism

Last season after series of impressive performances, it became clear that our squad was clearly tired out. We don't want such a thing to happen to our midfielders again. It would be terrible

GrammarNazi1:
He won't rest.

We all know that.

But it's pathetic.

It truly is.
He is starting today, he and Garcia

jpmoriarti:
Una don start again o. This is a new season. Let the best players play. Not a matter of favouritism. We need all the points in as many game as possible. It shouldn't matter who plays

I was wrong insinuating favoritism, Pedri is good but we have other players in the squad that can offer something.
Maybe not as good as Pedri but something worthwhile

FirstbornWds:
Pedro is as stubborn as Koeman. The mumu refused rest even when it was offered on a platter.


Make I agree say na small pikin brain sha

The boy is good, he knows he is good but resting isn't a bad idea. I hope he doesn't play more than 50 minutes today.

If Pedri starts today, it won't be well with Koeman.


As much as I love Puig, even if he doesn't start Gavi can start, or Demir in that role like against Juventus but Pedri starting even though he is very good is borderline unfair to others

jpmoriarti:
There were plenty law cases flying up and down. It is quite difficult to keep track back then. Besides, if it were Barca that took Neymar to court, it means Neymar made demands that the club disagreed with. Either way, it still boils down to clear mistrust between Neymar's camp and the Barca's camp, being championed by none other than Bartomeu.

Bartomew had us thinking we were the best there is financially. How can we be suffering so much in so short a time. This beggars belief really. It doesn't make sense at all.

The reason for the law suit was a breach of the terms Barca signed with Neymar, Neymar breached the contract and he was expected to be held liable for that. Don't make it like anyone should breach the terms of a contracts and get away with it.
In fact I don't think you understood the case.
Here https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/soccer/2020/06/19/neymar-lawsuit-ruling-barcelona-signing-bonus

https://www.google.com/amp/s/barcauniversal.com/official-barcelona-and-neymar-reach-agreement-to-end-legal-cases/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11833/12364916/barcelona-and-neymar-end-legal-dispute-in-amicable-out-of-court-settlement

I can bring more so you can see that the club was absolutely right to sue Neymar and he would have lost that case. But the club chose an out of court settlement

jpmoriarti:
This is the kind of gesture that you expect from true Barca fans that are also Barca player. I don't need your tears in front of the whole world. All the club needed is help from players who have benefited when things were rosy. Not crocodile tears. Tears help no one

Thank you Gerard Pique. You're a true Barcelona fans.

It is also instructive that Barcelona mentioned this kind gesture in the report.

Na wa o, and I thought I was discussing with a reasonable Barca fan

jpmoriarti:
Barcelona and Neymar had been in court for various issues since he left. It was an acrimonious relationship even before he left. If he had everything he needed in Paris, I wonder why he would be back dragging matter for court. Its because he knew Bartomeu was a dishonest and deceitful. Everything was hoax. Putting smokescreen in front of people eyes.

Barca sued Neymar, not Neymar suing Barca. They are two different things and you should read up on the facts of that case before you make wrong allusions

Karleb:
Neymar didn't see shiit.

He left because he was offered everything a player can dream of at that time.

Had he stayed, he would be leaving now with tears in his eyes like Suarez and Messi.

PSG signed Neymar and promised him money, status and preferential treatment. Neymar was provided with a private jet for whenever he wanted to travel to Brazil while making him one of the 3 highest earning players in Europe.

jpmoriarti:
Me

He will say PSG paid his buyout clause so technically we didn't sell him because there was nothing we could have done to prevent that.

But I'll say that there's a reason for everything. For Neymar to consider leaving means all was not well with Barcelona. We have been going downhill ever since.

Neymar saw today and chose to leave before the house of cards Bartomeu was building comes crumbling upon him.

Bartomeu's chicken has finally come home to roost.

I just pray what is left of the ruins is salvaged as soon as possible so we can move on.

You know the correct thing and you will still go about spewing bizarre notions to suit agenda. You should be a Chelsea fan.

jpmoriarti:
Lmaooo Bartomeu had brilliant ideas but led Barca to financial ruins and managed to distance all club legends from the club. No former club legends wanted to have anything to do with Bartomeu and his doomed management team. Only Eric Abidal came close. And he left with his tails between his leg That alone told me Bartomeu is leading Barcelona to a devastating end. We can all see it now

I agree with this, Bartomeau didn't manage the relationship with club legends properly. I don't know how he managed to convince Koeman to coach the club

FirstbornWds:
Are we now going to use mediocrity as a standard for valuing leaders?

Bart was a pest that came into Barcelona to launder money. Irrespective of whatever accomplishments he had during his stint, the fact that he couldn't manage the progress of the club until it became almost a shadow is a testament that he was only banking on luck. He further went ahead to hire louts to paint the club so badly in the media. That man ehn

Noooo, who was mediocre? You do know that under Bartomeau Barca won the same number trophies that Barca under Laporta won during Laporta's tenure? The exact same number of trophies. How is that mediocrity? And Bartomeau didn't launder money. The main wrong that he did is his slander of club legends and that's terrible. But economically, Bartomeau has been Barca's best president.
Economically!!! So that someone won't say I said overall. Just from the economic standpoint of financial gains.

jpmoriarti:
Lolz we were most valuable club in 2019 and within two years we have turned into a laughing stock. Can't attract any top level players and losing the GOAT too.

It shows it was wash... the more you look, the less you see. Barcelona account were all cooked to appear good. Now, wind don blow, everything came crumbling like a pack of card.

Whatever Bartomeu achieved simply were all made up otherwise how can you explain how we quickly got into such financial mess in so short a time. Other big clubs are not having it this bad.

It wasn't wash, it was factual and it was true. Remember that every team make financial statements to La Liga, and those financial statements are public records. Barca was in debt of 1b euros and considering the income of 2018 and 2019 the club would have come out of that debt if 2020 hadn't been Covided. Not come out but with proper planning, it would have been addressed.
So essentially, it wasn't made up. It was true. Bartomeau had economic plans but no sporting project.

FirstbornWds:
Who did?

PSG activated his release clause. When a player's release clause is activated it means the entity that activated it want to buy all the rights of that player that his employer is holding. It's a common economic requirement in Spain and some parts of Europe.
When PSG activated Neymar's release clause, Barca didn't have the right to say no. The only person that could refuse was Neymar and he didn't.

Awesome01:
Most valuable club! How much did we get from Forbes for that achievement, Bros?

Highest influx of income for 2 and 3 years ago, nice to know, but where did that income disappear to? Why are we suddenly in debt? Don't bring Covid excuse o, cos that affecting every other club out there, not Barça alone, why are they not in financial mess like ours?

So, if an engineer builds a beautiful house, and the house falls apart because of bad decisions on his part, you will still call him a brilliant engineer?

Covid isn't an excuse, it was a fact. Before the pandemic of last year got terrible we generated over x2 or x3 of the 180m of last year in 2019 and 2018. Last year it became terrible and our players weren't exactly marketable. Remember that Madrid was also in debt of over 800m but their players were more marketable than Barca's players and they sold a lot of them. Chelsea were in debt of over 400m before the FFP ban on transfers and with Lampard and that woman through player sales they were able to get out of the debt. Bartomeau didn't invest the influx of money properly and that's what gave rise to this fiasco with Coutinho and other high earning players.

Awesome01:
Yeah, you are right. And see where his 11 years excellent and brilliant financial genius brought us to . I dey clap for am.

poor planning.
And his biggest wrong for me isn't even the overbloated wage bill, the biggest wrong is that he paid social media accounts to blackmail and insult people he should have protected their intrest and shielded them from the outside criticism.

Awesome01:
You are comparing Pot to kettle, for blackness matter.

Buhari o, Bartomeau o, which is better, especially since since both of them start with "B", they are both failures and destructive.

I think Bartomeau is better. I can list some of his accomplishments. At least under him, Barca became both the most valuable club in football and had the highest influx of income 2 and 3 years ago. Has Buhari done something like that for Nigeria since 2015??