₦airaland Forum

Scorpio99:
Before we talk, are you older than God too? I just wan check something. 🤣🤣

Scorpio99:
Which kain shameless lawyer be dis for Christ sake 🤣🤣

Allthelight:
Ok... Well I am not Wikipedia. My point is if u have government officials doing this then are you sure they are not the ones sponsoring these people

Akaekpuchionwa2:
Just for you to provide evidence/receipt to the above question u don turn am to seniority contest. Look who is clutching at straw?

Akaekpuchionwa2:
Can we see your past post condemning the killing of Muslims by terrorist in the North?
Can we see you condemning the government policy of rehabilitating islamic terrorist who murdered your friends?

Benue has been suffering back to back attack and killings but you dismiss everything cox to you Muslims are the major casualties.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Good that you have been exposed.
Defending and whitewashing Islamist terrorists as bandits. Defending the attacks against Christians in the North.. You're no different from the genocidal Zionist entity.

Allthelight:
To really solve Nigeria problems the three main ethnic groups needs to be re-educated.

Ted Cruz is right to point out Fulanis.

No genocide but a former president called on violence

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The same you referring to Islamist terrorist as bandits. You're irredeemable

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Of course you don't see anything wrong. Proper Muslim Taqqiya.

Akaekpuchionwa2:
I don't know why they're hellbent on rewriting history. Something we all witnessed.

seunny4lif:
“In Iraq and Afghanistan, there are no trenches.”

🗣️ American instructor Matthew Samson, who fought on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on the fundamental difference between the war in Ukraine and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan:

“Sometimes we came across caves and had to conduct combat operations inside them, but that was rare.

The US Army does not train for trench warfare at all.
We know that Russians bosom-trap objects much more often compared to Iraq and Afghanistan.

There, we were much more used to "clearing" rooms with as many people as possible: if a room fits seven, we put seven.

But here in Ukraine, it’s the opposite, because almost everything inside the room can be rigged with explosives.”

shoodboi2:
That's his job here

LordAdam16:
The genocide talk is an insertion by the Hasbara f**ls to push their "genocide is okay in Gaza" agenda.

We can see the nauseous attempt from a mile away.

-Lord

shoodboi2:
I have repeatedly referred to the genocide in Sudan as a genocide and you can see it here:

https://www.nairaland.com/7481160/russia-ukraine-war-world-news-weapons/4027#137301945

Meanwhile, you have refused to do so and have repeatedly referred to it as a “carnage” and "atrocities" instead of calling it the genocide that it is. And yet, you keep accusing me of downplaying a genocide you won’t even acknowledge.

But you likely did not know I called the Sudanese genocide a genocide because you are only interested in arguing from an emotional standpoint rather than addressing issues logically.

For context, Sainttwist started this conversation when he referred to those of us who condemned the Israeli genocide in Gaza as “women and children people” and said that we aren’t talking about the Sudanese genocide because Israel and the US are not the ones committing it. His wingman, Jerryking, then supported his stance.

I then pointed out that no one is talking about “women and children” being killed in the Sudanese genocide because the majority of the victims of the Sudanese genocide are men, which is true. I also acknowledged seeing photos of women being tortured by the RSF.

Even the Washington Post link the pleader who has never been to a real courtroom shared yesterday, clearly mentions that the people who fled El Fasher where the Rapid Support Forces has been committing a genocide are majorly women, children, and the elderly with very scanty men. This clearly proves my point about men being the main casualties of the RSF genocide and not women and children.

So how is that me downplaying a genocide? I didn’t downplay the genocide in Gaza and I will never downplay the one in Sudan too. But I know you guys will downplay both genocides.

You have already started by repeatedly referring to the Sudanese genocide as a “carnage” or "atrocity" rather than a “genocide”. Your man, Hoaxen, has offered you support by talking about people “bastadizing” the meaning of genocide and “genocide accusations flying up and down."

It is only a matter of time you all will begin to openly claim that there is no genocide happening in Sudan. I know you are currently in your usual wait-and-see approach mode where you wait for the US to opnely clarify its position on an issue before deciding on which side to take.

LordAdam16:
We are in agreement that there are multiple underlying reasons for the killings.

But for too long we have allowed this issue to metastasize because we have put too much focus on properly categorizing the attacks.

For instance, a bunch of opportunistic herders with personal arms could fell a tree, drop it on a road, stop traveling passengers and rob them with one or more unfortunate deaths. Some of these militias are pretty much gangs like the confraternities in the South.
If Christian armed robbers in the South kill Muslim victims, no one gives it an ethnic or religious coloration.
So I get it. We are all Nigerians and we know the finer details of this multifaceted issue.

That notwithstanding, Christians in the North particularly in exurban and rural locations are being squeezed by the worsening insecurity, and Christians and other well-meaning Nigerians like myself have had it with the stories and explanations.
We are tired. They should make it stop. Both the killings of Christians and Muslims.
And for the umpteenth time, no one should ask Christians to tolerate or be circumspect about more killings of Christians because Muslims are also dying.
You don't ask a grieving family not to grieve and demand justice because other people died.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
U too dey shalaye for nothing.
If clicked that link, you will see where the terrorist ransacked communities in Jos, turned the churches to mosques in those communities the original inhabitants fled from.
Check below excerpt from the ThisDay news article.

“It’s quite provoking to imagine that the foundations of churches that were destroyed by these terrorist elements have overnight been reconstructed as mosques, to the utter disregard of the fundamental rights of the displaced people. A case in point is the Rankum (Mahanga) in Jol, Ranchos, and Kak in Sopp, all in the Riyom LGA.

“For the avoidance of doubt, over 151 hamlets and villages are either totally ‘annexed’ or effectively being occupied by the Fulani militants, bandits, or terrorists in the aforementioned Local Government of Barkin Ladi, Bassa, Bokkos, Mangu, and Riyom,” he explained.

Before this latest allegation by the Plateau youths, the son of the first Gbong Gwom Jos and spokesperson for Southern Middle Belt Alliance (SAMBA), Prince Rwang Pam Jr., had in a media interview in December 2021 claimed that 102 communities in the state were renamed and forcefully occupied by Fulani herdsmen, who had been attacking the state since 2001.

“When attacks happen, some say it was allegedly committed by herdsmen. They are not alleged herdsmen; they are Fulani herdsmen. Survivors know their identity and when they come to attack, they shout ‘God is great’ in Arabic. They kill women and children while mothers watch their daughters being raped. It is just pathetic. The killings have continued because the government allowed them. The annexed communities have increased to 102 because the government allowed it to happen,” Pam reportedly explained.

In the petition, MUTA further alleged that since 2013, “armed Fulani herdsmen have repeatedly wreaked havoc on communities in 20 of the 23 local government areas of Benue State, massacring thousands of people, destroying communities and, often, totally obliterating economic and cultural assets.”

Hoaxen:
All this genocide accusations flying around up and down until it reached Nigeria and south Africa is a direct consequence of the bastardization of the term "genocide" by Hamas terrorists sympathisers.

They modified the definition of genocide to fit their anti Israeli propaganda and now it can fit almost every conflict around the world. 🤭

If Hamas jihadists "genocide" propaganda continues. The term "genocide" will loose any real meaning as a term.

Just imagine:
Trigger happy police officers kill some youths = youth genocide.

Fight occurs in a market place between two tribes leaving two members of one tribe dead= tribal genocide.

Random Nigerian bandits kill some European tourists= European genocide. Etc

A round of applause for Hamas terrorist sympathisers 👏👏👏 they have given a very simple and straightforward word new meaning. 🤡🤡🤡

LordAdam16:
Again that's not true.
This is a report of armed militias taking over and renaming communities in Plateau state.
https://www.thisdaylive.com/2024/06/02/disturbing-occupation-of-151-villages-by-armed-herders-in-plateau-state/

How is that different from what the Israelis are doing in the West Bank.

You should know your facts before commenting.

Your commentary is providing cover for more inaction that will lead to more killings.
The aim is to stop the Islamist groups from killing both Christians and Muslims.
However, Christian advocacy groups will advocate for the plights of Christians. It is that simple.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Stop calling them bandits, there are islamic terrorist. No be me u go gaslight. People wey dey overrun military base and formation. Take over local government, communities.
We saw videos when they went for peace talks in Zamfara with the government. All were armed to the teeth

LordAdam16:
Is your statement in bold not a damning revelation.

That Islamist militia groups can make entire settlements of Christians flee their historic lands in Nigeria.
The Israelis are doing it in the West Bank. ISIS did it in Syria. But Christians in Nigeria cannot protest because it also happens to Muslims.
So because there are killers out there, you would not seek justice when someone you know is a victim.

What are you arguing?
So when the Christians flee their historic lands, what is the religious constitution of those who take over the abandoned land?
What is ethnic cleansing?

You do know someone can interpret all these long shalaye as attempting to make excuses for these murderous beasts ba?

Islamists are killing Christians.
Christians said enough is enough.
You're telling them to mind their language.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I've lived in the NW too, one of the K- state bordering Niger Republic. If you don't want to acknowledge the Christian genocides in Nigeria, that's your own cup of tea.
Benue and Plateau is no go area. Southern Kaduna , they're also wrecking havoc.

We have seen Iranian jews and Christians freely conducting their religious activities in Iran without attacks or persecution, same thing in Gaza, Lebanon. Go to Russia, there are millions of Muslims and Christians we don't hear such story. Why is our own different? Whether Muslims or Christians the killings should stop in the North.

You can't get be shouting Free Palestine while at home , scores are killed cox of their faith/believe yet you are not doing anything about it.

LordAdam16:
I also disagree with the Christian genocide characterization.

But you will agree that this is a situation that certain interest groups primarily of a certain background have allowed to fester through inaction.

The facts are damning.
Christians are a minority in the North.
People are not going to wait until Christians are extinct in the North before stating that Islamist groups in Nigeria are killing Christians.
No Christian militia in the South is killing Muslims and then Christians in the South will try to muddy the waters by saying they're killing Christians too. It is simply not happening. No Christian militia is killing Christians or Muslims.

Why can that not happen in the North?
Why is any attempt to make that not happen in the North met with initial criticisms of framing.
We need to put comma in the right place while thousands are killed.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Lol @ the bolded. Don't be a hypocrite

LordAdam16:
The interesting part is that no one said Muslims are not dying.
But somehow they want it to be forbidden to say Christians are dying.

They are on a long thing.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Source = trust me bro, I no fit lie give u.

LordAdam16:
You are wrong.
There have been killings in Plateau, Nasarawa, Taraba.
Virtually all states in the North have been targeted.
We cannot keep playing semantics while more than a hundred thousand Nigerians have died with no end in sight.
If action is taken to stop the killings, it is going to stop both the killings of Christians and Muslims.

And no one here or anywhere on the planet can say these murderous elements have NEVER targeted a Christian settlement because of its religion.
Two things can be correct.

It is true that the US is drawing attention to this for nefarious reasons.
But you do not throw the baby with the bath water.
Condemnation of killings, some of which have had religious and ethnic undertones, is necessary by everyone with a pulse.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Make nobody whine you,, even PBAT acknowledged the unprovoked attack and killings against Christians in Nigeria.

This is what Trump is saying, nothing new.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
U wan compare a "Secret Agent" with person wey inherent his father's wealth.

WriteerNg:
⚡Putin:

The nuclear power unit of the Burevestnik is 1,000 times smaller than a nuclear reactor on a submarine with comparable power.

23jerryking:
The way you flip your table of ignorance on someone else while trying to sound clever. He clearly wrote (a branch of Judaism).
So with this logic of yours, we can therefore say that Lagosian is a branch of Christianity right?
And for the records, you were the one who referred me to the AI. There you have it.

23jerryking:
Which one is (a branch of Judaism)?😂😂
If he's a Samaritan then he's from the region of Samaria. You don't know that Samaritans have their own religious beliefs and scriptures? Abeg don't say this outside