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23jerryking:
If the doctor prescribes Paracetamol Tabs for your headache, his job is done, he won't be the one to force it down your throat.
Note: This is not about physical ailments 😂
I'll state no further.

Always proudly riding on coattails...smh

23jerryking:
Bro he served you well. Just admit you were simply not up for it.

Why do you need me to admit anything?

If your opinion is 'he served me well', why do you need confirmation?

sainttwist1:
bro seriously you need to rest. You are a Nigerian not a Palestine, a black man not an Arab..... having sleepless night on another person wahala is not worth it and there is nothing you can do about the Gaza wahala, they brought it on themselves

So pls rest.....you need it

If you believe all you've written, then leave me to my folly and you also shouldn't be on this thread, you should be in the local politics section...this is foreign affairs

sainttwist1:
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I laugh in Hebrew, you need to rest

Our resident side character

Gbadebo19:
This strong-head wey you get go later show you sheygey for life.

See as Michael been dey school you since, yet your agidi will not let you concede. Smh!!! Am not surprised though, seen your type and worse since 2022.

Concede to what?

There's nothing he said that I've not heard from netanyahu i.e. official Israeli talking points, why waste time with that?

I'm pretty sure I'm much older than you, if anyone is to give life advice it should be me to you

Gbadebo19:
And it's funny how you have never written anything about the names you copied from Google without even knowing who exactly they are.
A quick one: If you ain't a meddlesome interloper, shouldn't you be writing about your heroes rather than developing migraine over Jews?

Those Jews I listed are developing said migraine on my behalf

You're special sha

LordAdam16:
Hamas is a recent creation.

Why did Israel not allow an independent Palestine before the creation of Hamas.
Hamas is Israel's brainchild.
Israel discreetly supported Hamas to obstruct the creation of an independent State of Palestine.

The monster they created has matured and has come for them.

The Palestine War of Independence has been ongoing for 80 years.
It is a noble mission.
We've had decades of talks. We've had marches. We've had enough conciliatory attempts.
The barbarians have finally admitted what we've always known: that they have no desire of accepting an independent State of Palestine as guaranteed by the UN approved two-state solution.
So it is a decision that will be forced on them.

History is replete with deadly wars of independence.
The French murdered more than a million Algerians to prevent their independence.
It failed.
Satanyahu and his gang of buff**ns will fail too.

They were hoping to fulfill their nefarious agenda under the radar.
With the myopic assistance of feckless and corrupt Arab traitors.
Sinwar forced them out in the open and now it is a global struggle.
They should make their plans to ethnically cleanse Palestine. They should assassinate leaders. They should murder children waiting for aid.

It will stop the inevitable.
For Palestine shall be FREE.

-Lord

Succinctly put

The way to know a zionist and an israel supporter despite how much they claim not to be, they blame almost everything on Hamas

We've seen it since October 7...Everytime israel commits a war crime they blame Hamas, Everytime!!! and that's what the guy was trying to do on this thread

He's literally the most israeli talking points guy on this thread

Hoaxen:
Do you want us to say the same about Hamas terrorists?

Gaza has a context, infact Palestine has a context spanning almost a 100years

Directly comparing Gaza to Ukraine is a false equivalence

Hoaxen:
I think you mean evacuating.

In the map below shows the humanitarian zone in yellow set up by Israel.

Cramping up more than 2million people into that tiny zone isn't an evacuation especially when it's under brute force

This is also considering that israel Katz the defence minister has announced that Palestinians there won't be allowed to leave...infact, the israelis have stated several times that their aim is to force Palestinians out of Gaza, a term they cynically call 'voluntary migration' and them pushing Palestinians to the South is in preparation for that

Keep in mind that Gaza before the genocide was already one of the most densely populated places on earth, meaning it was already a cramped up place

Hoaxen:
It's strange how your camp see Hamas terrorists as brave but criticize Ukraine as foolish.

Ukrainians have carried out acts of bravery...facing a mightier army like Russia is brave, especially considering the high level of willingness by Ukrainians early on in the conflict

I've only considered Zelensky's decisions as foolish and I've said so here

Watcharena:
Where are they suppose to go when they leave their homes,do you expect them to be going round the world without a place they home or a country of their own ,no identity nothing nothing

He didn't question why israel is forcing them out of Gaza city which is ethnic cleansing(a war crime), he didn't ask why israel has flattened Gaza, bombed hospitals repeatedly, bombed places of worship repeatedly, destroyed every school in Gaza, killed more than 200 journalists, summarily executed health workers, is enforcing a starvation policy, has announced the creation of concentration camps in the South of Gaza, why people keep getting killed at aid points...all these are war crimes israel is RESPONSIBLE for

Yet as far as he is concerned Hamas is to blame for israel's actions because of October 7, Israel isn't responsible

Like I said he's the most Israeli talking points guy on this thread

Michaeltreasure:
I have no business with Netanyahu. I'm not a Zionist, neither a Jew nor Israeli. I'm a full blooded Nigerian with conscience. I feel the pain of the Palestinians and I know that their problems with the Jews will never be resolved until those points I raised are taken care of.

Cheering Hamas when ordinary Palestinians are paying the price for their actions is extreme wickedness. Just recently, Hamas sent a message round Gaza encouraging the Palestinians not to leave their homes Gaza city, telling them to stand and face the force of the IDF. what type of wickedness is more than this? Defenceless civilians, including nursing mothers and babies, should stand and face tanks, F35s and military commandos? Haba!

I told you about Gaza's literacy rate certified by the UN and look at the nonsense reply you gave me and you want a proper chat?

Michaeltreasure:
Are you kidding me!!!!
My muslim neighbors daughter is eight years old but can't read simple sentence in English. Meanwhile, she has memorized the entire Quran. Thus, she's literate. Literacy simply means ability to read and write in any language. It does not mean intelligence.

Hamas, efficiency in governance? Guy... Sorry bro, I don't think I have a reply to this your assertion. So sending young vibrant Palestinians to their death before the IDF is efficiency? Spending scarce resources manufacturing IEDs and rockets is efficiency? Starting a war with a far more powerful Israel and then running to hide leaving the people at the mercy of the IDF is efficiency? SMH...

You wrote Israelis teach their kids to hate the Palestinians more than the Palestinians do, do to know that there are Arab Israelis, and they're living well accomplished lives right in Israel? Are you aware Israel is a hot-spot for science and innovation and a major producer of technical knowledge? You think they built their country by hating Palestinians?

Besides, I've never heard of an Arab Israeli denouncing Israeli citizenship to become a Palestinian. If the Israelis teach such hate as you claim to their kids, if would be evident in the relationship between the Jewish majority and Arab minority in the country...

You're the guy with the most Israeli talking points in this entire thread

It's like arguing with netanyahu

LordAdam16:
They clearly have no control of anything.

The Americans in Saudi Arabia intercepted the missile while they allowed the Israelis to pass.
Humiliation pro max.

-Lord

Exactly

Lord... don't know if you can give your take on the possible consequences in Africa and Middle East of the withering unipolarism and emerging multipolarism globally, with a particular focus on the Military power scaling of the US, Russia and China vis-a-vis the respective political realities of the regions

Michaeltreasure:
Palestine has been attracting attention for decades, heaven did not fall. You think the Israelis are worried, yet they bombed Qatar's capital? Israel has lost a lot, yet Israelis are partying and clubbing with businesses operating across the country normally, while the UN is talking of famine in Gaza?
The romance of the PA with the Americans and Israelis themselves is one of the problems of the Palestinians I've been hammering on. How do you expect Israel and other countries to take you serious when you can't even keep your house in order? Selling yourselves out and betraying each other for peanuts? Do the Jew's sell themselves out like that? Whose fault is it that the PA can't handle themselves with one accord without internal frictions? Israel's?
Hamas has been in charge of Gaza do about two decades and they can't point at one achievement theyve had for their people. All their resources have been focused so much on hating Israel, rather than making the lives of ordinary Palestinians better.
That's why I wrote Hamas is a major problem in Gaza. And as for other armed groups rising, it's expected. The average Palestinian has been brainwashed into hating Israel more than loving themselves. Thus, any armed group will easily find fighters among the population...

Hamas achieved a 98% percent literacy rate in Gaza, one of the highest in the world. That's an astounding achievement

Gaza has been under a suffocating blockade since Hamas took over yet they achieved efficiency in governance. Infact, Sinwar was so effective in his administration, that he was cited as a reference point for others in the region

israel has a policy called 'mowing the lawn' that they execute especially in Gaza. Google Mowing the lawn

Israelis educate their kids to hate Arabs far more than Palestinians do against israelis...if you can watch the documentary the settlers, I don't think you'd even make that claim

23jerryking:
There's a thin line between bravery and stupidity. One man standing up to tanks only connotes foolery.

It worked didn't it

Bravery is bravery, facing up to tanks is bravery

Unlike a lot of you, if an idf soldier displayed bravery, I'd admit it and call it bravery

Simple

LordAdam16:
I'm sure most have seen Harrison tweet from August.
https://x.com/HarrisonHSmith/status/1955705962964111425


This was one of the replies.
https://x.com/tommyborumjokes/status/1955707128825393497


Kirk killed as predicted in an open-air event and we have several idiot groypers as patsies.
Message delivered to MAGA leaders.
Stay in line. Or you're next.
Maybe it was us. Maybe it wasn't us. But you'll never be sure. And that serves us just fine.

Thankfully, we are on a preordained path that ends in freedom for Palestine.
Regardless of who is assassinated.
Not even assassinating 47 will change their fortunes.
Sinwar's gambit had a simple premise. Make the world see the underbelly of Israel.
That's all it'd take.

The bast**d felt the need to clarify he didn't do it.
Like we give a sh*t.

-Lord

Charlie Kirk complained that his phone was getting blown up by texts and calls from AIPAC people and Jewish lobby officials because he was asking uncomfortable questions

The context is especially striking because israel has embarked on a hasbara drive anchored through popular MAGA influencers, so having a prominent MAGA influencer undermine it was bad for business

WriterrNg:
⚡Dutch broadcaster AVROTROS says the Netherlands will boycott Eurovision 2026 if Israel competes.

Rejects in the Middle East, rejects in Europe

From chosen to rejected

Gbadebo19:
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Jews are my heroes.
Yahya Sinwar is your hero.
Hassan Nasrallah is your hero.
The Iranian army is your hero.
Hamas is your hero.
Houthis are your hero.

Now, reread the filth you wrote up there and tell me who has been let down by their hero.

My own heroes are delivering whenever they are called upon.
Your own heroes are collecting non existent virgins in a non existent world called Al-Jannah.

My heroes are sending your heroes to the grave. 😂😂😂😂

I'm a lawyer and my heroes are those who stand for justice including Jews like Norman Finkelstein, Avi Shlaim, Omer Bartov, Miko Peled, Gideon Levy, Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe, Peter Beinart, Max Blumenthal, Katie Harper, Rabbi Weiss, Dave Smith, Ori Goldberg etc. I could go on and on

Your heroes are war criminals and sociopaths, Jews like netanyahu, ben gvir, smotrich, yoav gallant etc.

Human qualities are human qualities, the orientation doesn't matter. Whether Jews, Christians, Muslims, it doesn't matter, what infact matters are the principles they stand for

Scum is scum and you are who you admire

Michaeltreasure:
And you think the normalisation of ties between Israel and Saudi Arabia won't happen in the future? Who would believe that the Abraham accords will ever be a reality? Who believed the UAE would normalise ties with Israel?
As for the so called global recognition of Palestine, several countries have recognized Palestinian state for decades, including Nigeria. How has that benefited the average Palestinian? Mind you, Saudi Arabia still does trade with Israel, despite the lack of official ties between them. Turkiye, with all the talk, still trades with Israel.
As for the West Bank government, you and I know very much that that governments is a cesspool of corruption with so many leaders in bed with the Americans and Israelis secretly.
For your information, the PLO hasn't even had strong institutions that checks the government officials in power. Within Abbas's government are numerous backstabbers, sleeper cells etc with intense disagreements among officials.
Israel simply took advantage of these loopholes in the West Bank government, infiltrated it sabotaged it from within.
The Palestinians need to take care of their houses first...

You've deviated from your claim of Hamas being the problem but I'll indulge you

The so-called Abraham accords has always been unpopular in the region and now with israel's actions in Palestine and beyond, the accords are in more jeopardy than they've ever been...even Egypt's long term truce agreement is looking shaky

Saudi being friends with israel may indeed happen in future, but definitely not the nearest future

Do you think israel likes the overwhelming attention that Palestine is getting globally? They'd rather bury the question of Palestine quietly and throw away the shovel...israel has lost a lot since October 7

With regard to the PA, their romance with israel isn't hidden, it's very public and that's one of the reasons they're very unpopular among Palestinians. That's aside the corruption they're known for and general ineffectiveness

The fact that the PA simping for israel and the US hasn't stopped Palestinian land usurpation in the form of settlement building and infact, israel is embarking on the biggest land theft of West Bank land in it's history, rubbishes your claim of Hamas being the problem

If the PA isn't good enough despite their bending for Israel, then who's good enough?

Hamas is only a symptom of the problem and not the problem itself. The problem is israeli occupation, land seizures and theft, brutality, denial of justice, apartheid and general oppression of Palestinians

There are already several armed groups beside Hamas and they'll continue to emerge if things remain the same

You should watch Louis Theroux's documentary called the settlers....no fair and honest person will question why Palestinians resort to armed resistance after seeing it

Gbadebo19:
And let's not forget about the schools without names that you claimed even God cannot attend.

But I'm curious what tangent are you on?

You sound like someone letdown by his hero

WriterrNg:
⚡Utah Governor Cox says "Russian and Chinese bots" are trying to "encourage violence" online over Charlie Kirk's assassination: "'we should put our phones down.'"

When control slips from authority, they blame imaginary forces

The US is fast slipping into anarchy

Gbadebo19:
Lol. Every normal thinking individual on this thread knows that the only set of people who have never accepted correction on anything is you and your camp. Even Mr Usman that you quoted the other day found no merit in you and never bothered replying you.

As for me, without any shadow of doubt, you are pained that your epistles are meaningless to me. I have accepted correction when it mattered. And let me tell you what they have done that your pre frontal cortex has been incapacitated from doing. They know how to make and present a convincing argument.

Okay man...have a nice day

Now be on your way

WriterrNg:
⚡Qatar's PM:

Israeli leaders are afflicted with arrogance and intoxication of power because they have ensured impunity.

Iran has already shown how to deal with them

Talking and noise isn't a language they understand...it took the threat of leveling tel aviv and making israel Gaza 2.0, for them to sheathe their sword after attacking Iran unprovoked

If truly things happened as Qatar claimed they did, then a re-assessment of the security agreement with the US must be on the table...the US greenlit the attack and stood down it's air defenses for israel

Personally, I like the fact that Trump's actions which I'm sure are often against the wishes of some of his advisers, seem to be fast eroding US credibility in the region

The US have used negotiations to bait Iranian and Hamas officials for israel and that's just unheard of. It's a new low for a supposed superpower with power to influence a lot in the region and exposes Trump as being too beholden to Israel to act rationally for long term interests

We shall see where this all leads us in the future

Michaeltreasure:
And how has that benefited the average Palestinian?
Face it bro! Hamas is the bane of the Palestinians. October 7 achieved nothing, absolutely nothing! Other than misery and pain for innocent and harmless civilians on both sides.
Until the Palestinians take their destiny in their own hands and chase Hamas out of their lives, they will never know peace.
Take that to the bank... Ü

It's cute that you think, or want to believe whatever the case may be, that Hamas is the problem

israel has rejected the Palestinian Authority (PA) having any authority in both the West Bank and Gaza...they accuse the PA of supporting terrorism and are usurping a lot of Palestinian land

October 7 ensured that the Palestinian Cause didn't die. Saudi was on the verge of a normalisation deal with israel and if that had been achieved, that would have been a death knell for Palestinians

Today despite the very high cost paid by the Palestinians, the question of Statehood is once again front and center globally and despite the genocide, erasure of the Palestinian Cause is that much harder

Hamas has already agreed to relinquish power in a post war Gaza, the problem is israeli usurpation of Palestinian lands and even beyond

LordAdam16:
A major source of Hamas munitions are Israeli unexploded ordinances.

Complemented by smuggling.
From Egypt to Gaza.
From Jordan to the West Bank.

Both Sisi and the Hashemites use it as a cudgel/insurance.
Tel Aviv knows if they go, they'll be replaced by Muslim Brotherhood patrons, who are the OG parent organization of Hamas.
They already had a sneak peek under Morsi.

The Sinwar plan has progressed smoothly so far.
One big prize is somehow voiding the Egypt-Israel accords.
The gambit is that it'll compel Egypt to seize Gaza and unilaterally trigger a declaration of Palestinian independence.

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Militarily, if Egypt's only goal is to seize Gaza and install a Palestinian government, they have the capacity and international legal backing to do so.
Trying to forestall this is why Egypt receives the second most military aid from the US after Israel.
Why Tel Aviv looks the other way while Egypt permits limited smuggling.
And why Satanyahu hasn't responded militarily to Egypt deploying 40,000 troops to Sinai in contravention of the Egypt-Israel treaty.
He only suspended the gas deal. Egypt is okay with that trade off.

When Sisi warned Trump that an attack on Cairo will carry catastrophic consequences, he was not bloviating.
This fairly favorable position is why he is insisting that there will be no displacement of Gazans under any guise.

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Many have speculated that Sisi is a puppet.
That is half true.
He is actually being held back by the Gulf monarchs.
Egypt will need funds to prosecute an SMO in Gaza.
But the moneybags in Qatar, UAE, and Kuwait, heck even Saudi Arabia, cannot protect themselves.
So if Egypt moves into Gaza, the USreal will pick off the Gulf monarchs one by one. Checkmate!

Otherwise, if it is by capability.
Egypt can mobilize 2 million men to seize Gaza and Iran + the Axis of Resistance will ensure the Egyptians win by going all out and forcing a 12D-esque Israeli surrender.

-Lord

The whole thing is precarious, especially for the US, but israel seems to be self-absorbed at the moment

The Gulf seemed to be immune and the safe spot, but that's fast becoming a red zone

Currently the US holds sway in the Gulf, but there's no telling what the future might portend due to israel's intransigence

shoodboi2:
Yep, the tunnels have smuggling routes that open up into Egypt. Back in 2007, Hamas even used them to smuggle animals, including hyenas and lions, for Gaza’s zoo.

As for the tunnels themselves, they are a life assignment for Israel. Reports indicate they go 7 to 8 levels deep. The ones Israel destroys are the top ones. The deepest ones are so underground that air cannot reach them and Hamas has to use ventilation systems to pump air into them.

They have no idea what they've gotten themselves into

Hoaxen:
stop pretending that you don't know how Hamas is getting supplies.

Aid theft!
They steal aid meant for Palestinians and then accuse Israel of starving their people

Whatever you say man

Hoaxen:
I'm not seeing any sequence. Assist me in tracing the sequence.

I'm tired of bans

Just know it was a specific reply to a specific individual who is not you

FoolishBoy419:
It is the only logical thing to do. They have serious moral issues but I don't see how I wouldn't join them as a Palestinian

The israelis have taken a blood debt from the Palestinians and beyond, peace is a mirage in that region for the foreseeable future

Alamkiir:
This is the part I never get till now, how are those guys surviving on supplies to fight for almost 2yrs since everywhere is blockade. isreal cant even survive fighting only Hamas for a year without supplies from US. How are this guys doing it?

Apart from the fact that they amassed weaponry over the years for such an eventuality, I suspect that there are smuggling routes that extend outside Gaza through the tunnel system

Keep in mind that israel hasn't still figured out the extent of the tunnel network and still doesn't know a lot of entry and exit points

If there's a smuggling route, it could lead into Egypt and the Egyptians might be helping them covertly...israel's relations with Egypt have been tense for quite sometime and Palestinian displacement isn't in Egypt's interest

This is all speculation though and I agree that it's remarkable how they've been fighting a high intensity battle for two years now, when the israelis have been dependent on foreign aid to keep up