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MaxInDHouse:
Of course worship separates the father from the son nah!

Since worship only belongs to the father! Deuteronomy 6:4🙂

Where was the separation in Revelation 5:13-14?
YOU DID THE SEPARATION BY YOURSELF IN YOUR MIND RIGHT.

MaxInDHouse:
When it comes to worship automatically the father and son are separated since worship only belongs to the true God!🙂

Ahhhhh...this guy. You don cast.
Last last you separated them.

I HAIL YOU OH!!!
TUALE.

MaxInDHouse:
There is only one true God says Jesus {John 17:3} so if you're confused due to a Bible verse all you need to do is think (meditate) by comparing what other verses say not picking up out of context a verse that never explicitly said what you want to imply.

That is why i asked you to quote a verse that says "everyone should worship both the father and the lamb" that you can never ever find throughout the Bible that is why you are trying to tie your belief to this verse and ọmọ it's not working!🙂

Another deflection.
But they both worship the father and the lamb sitting on the throne na. Abi na you want separate the father from the lamb now ni?
I QUOTED FROM YOUR SCRIPTURES. EXPLAIN YOU SCRIPTURES NA. E HARD YOU?

MaxInDHouse:
Worshiped who?🙂
Jesus said his father is his God and our God {John 20:17} so if verse 14 said they worshiped who do they worship?🙂

Trying to evade. Explain verse 13 and 14. Simple. If you don't know, come clean and say it make I help you explain am.

MaxInDHouse:
And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.” Revelation 5:13

Our salvation hings on the knowledge of two persons according to Jesus himself! John 17:3

Why you stop?
You no quote VERSE 14 na. Why you stop at verse 13.
WHY YOU DEY FEAR?
Let me use your JW Bible, I get the soft copy. I go quote am and you go do the explanation.
OYA EXPLAIN VERSE 14, NA UNA BIBLE I QUOTE O WEY USE WORSHIP.
LET ME HEAR WHAT YOU GAT TO SAY.

JW Bible (Revelation 5:13-14
13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.”
14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what i asked you to quote in any version of your choice!

You no sabi read? Did I tell you I quoted anywhere? Wasn't that a statement that captured different verses that I later quoted for you?
Oya explain the passage I quoted for you in ur own Bible to prove you OBEISANCE.
I go come ask you how you pay Obeisance and how you pay worship.
First explain wetin the 24 elders did to the lamb first.
Explain wetin the 24 elders did for the Lamb.
Explain wetin the 24 elders did for the Lamb.

I bet you cannot explain it to fit your Obeisance, because the next question will be "How do you pay worship then? Tell us.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote the highlighted in the Bible?

Shey you go rest if I qouto am.
As you no know Bible and u no sabi read yourself until your organization releases statement. OYA TAKE.
Revelation 5:13-14
[13]And then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea. They sang:
“Blessing and honor and glory and power
    belong to the one sitting on the throne
    and to the Lamb forever and ever.”
[14]And the four living beings said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped the Lamb.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself.

If you are one of the worshipers Jesus it's OK we aren't worshiping Jesus he is our fellow worshiper of the same father and God! John 20:17

But the host of heaven worshipped both the father and the Lamb who sit upon the throne na. But you want to dey cos division between them. Commot the lamb from the throne first before you worship the father alone na.
EVIDENCE FULL GROUND LIKE WATER...
Revelation 5:14
[14]And the four living beings said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped the Lamb.
Revelation 7:11
[11]And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living beings. And they fell before the throne with their faces to the ground and worshiped God.
Revelation 22:3
[3]No longer will there be a curse upon anything. For the throne of God and of the Lamb will be there, and his servants will worship him.

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted is where we differ because we are OBEDIENT to the lamb but as for worship it belongs only to the true God! John 17:3
That is what OBEISANCE to the lamb means to us!🙂

Means to u? You people have rewritten your own scriptures to suit you?
You translated the Bible from a language to English and other languages na.
Tell us the word for Worship and Obeisance in that original language you translated them from, let us check.
IS THAT TOO DIFFICULT AN ASSIGNMENT TO.DO?

NO BE JUJU BE DAT?

Truthseeker10:
1)Lol...you are a very funny man.
You clearly stated as evident in the screenshot below that English interpretation of greek words is inconsequential.

If Jesus used greek word to tell you not to call your dad at home "father", why are you now calling your dad "father"?

Is there a seperate greek word for human "father" and a seperate greek word for "father" as referring to the Almighty God?

2) You claimed to worship your parents in the screenshot that I shared in the previous post. Is there a seperate greek word for "worship" when referring to parents and a seperate greek word for "worship" when referring to the Almighty God? Why are you now trying to twist the greek word for "worship" to fit your parent?

Below is Matthew 18:36

King James Bible
The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

New King James Version
The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’

Why is the new king James version avoiding the use of "worship" in the above verse. Is it not trying to twist the greek word for "Worship"?

Why are you also saying that servants should honor their masters, are you not bold enough to claim that servants should "worship" their masters?

New King James trying to evade worship? Are you new to Bible history? Why was the New King James version written differently from the King James? Was it not to make it simpler for people to understand? Worship was broken down to mean falling down or bowing down.
When the Devil asked Jesus to fall down and worship him, was the devil not demanding worship from Jesus if he fell down to worship? Why didn't Jesus just bow down and say it is just bowing down and not worship. When you fall and bow down to anyone or image, it is worship. Such is meant for Elohim (Spirit beings (plural) with God's delegation) alone.

You still have not told us the Greek of Worship and Obeisance so we can check the difference.

MaxInDHouse:
We worship the only true God Jehovah {John 17:3} and Jesus is our high priest {Hebrews 9:11} leading pure worship so all of us with Jesus are fellow worshipers of the same father and God! John 20:17

So as our high priest whatever Jesus say regarding pure worship everyone including all the angels in heaven must Obey him! Hebrews 1:6

As my God, whatever the father asks me to do for anyone I will do. He asked that the land sitting on the throne should be worshipped and I shall OBEY.
If you like disobey the Father, na your wahala be that.
Revelation 5:13-14
[13]And then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea. They sang:
“Blessing and honor and glory and power
    belong to the one sitting on the throne
    and to the Lamb forever and ever.”
[14]And the four living beings said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped the Lamb.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue with your fellow worshipers Joo!🤣

I worship Jesus because the father has put me under him and he is above me.
I commit any crime to obey the father's instruction?

No Be Juju Be Dat?

Truthseeker10:
You've not still provided the answer to the question in the screenshot below.

How many answers do you want provided? If you need a course on Bible interpretation then enroll in one.
Jesus was teaching his disciples, in the presence of the crowd whom he was addressing, that they should not behave like the Pharisees by attributing to THEMSELVES and to OTHER attributes that will make them full proud and larger than life.
Jesus did not oppose the names: Rabbi (Master), Father, not Teacher. He was only telling them that when people attribute such names to them, they should give honor back to God who is the father of all and His Christ (Messiah) who is the Master/Teacher of all.

Or is it a sin to be called teacher or master?

Back to worship.
It is worthy for the Lamb (Christ) to be worshipped by men and heavenly hosts as he is greater than them. It is also expedient for the Lamb to worship and acknowledge the father always as the ruler of all.
SERVANTS SHOULD HONOR THEIR MASTER AND THE MASTER TOGETHER WITH HIS SERVANTS SHOULD HONOR THE MASTER'S MASTER.

MaxInDHouse:
Since you have your own people and we have our own people it's better to be on your lane while we remain on our lane! Matthew 7:12-13

You no get original Greek evidence to back your Obeisance and Worship?
Why you come dey explain tire since?

MaxInDHouse:
Will the father join in worshiping Jesus?🤣


The word OBEISANCE and WORSHIP are two different things.

Obeisance means taking instructions from someone so it has to do with the readiness to obey such a person.

Worship means rendering sacred service to someone.

But if you don't agree it's OK go and worship with your folks!🙂

Another Ignorance.
Quote from your own JW Bible where worship was used for God and Obeisance was used for Jesus. After you have done that from the two passages, show us the Greek word for Worship and then for Obeisance make we check.
You really need to check yourself and what you believe.
I AM WAITING FOR YOUR:
1. QUOTED PASSAGES
2. GREEK TRANSLATIONS

I BET YOU CAN'T FIND THE SECOND ONE IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH. OYA KEEP FINDING.

MaxInDHouse:
This is hilarious!😂



Wait a minute!

Now i understand you better. The first father who must join in worshiping Jesus is capital letter while the one who should not worship Jesus is small letter!😃

Guy, nobody will flog you for admitting that you typed rubbish nah!🤣

Ignorance at its peak.
Does the Greek language has capital letter?
Do you know that Elohim (plural) used to refer to angels in Hebrews mean gods. Do you know that God in Hebrew is a plural form?
You need a lot of lessons on Bible interpretation. You really need it.

MaxInDHouse:
Please make sense with these two posts of yours!🤣

You no sabi read? Jesus is only second to the father and no other. He is above all. Everything and everyone worship him except the father. Everything and everyone worship the father including the son.
The three verses are as clear as the day. But you ignorance of Bible interpretation and lack of objectivity will still not understand.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you being serious right now?😂

Do you find it difficult to read that Bible that you have or are you just lazy to?
Ephesians 1:20-22
[20]that raised Christ from the dead and seated him in the place of honor at God’s right hand in the heavenly realms.
[21]Now he is far above any ruler or authority or power or leader or anything else—not only in this world but also in the world to come.
[22]God has put all things under the authority of Christ and has made him head over all things for the benefit of the church.

1 Corinthians 15:27-28
[27]For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.” (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.)
[28]Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.

Revelation 5:12-14
[12]And they sang in a mighty chorus:
“Worthy is the Lamb who was slaughtered—
    to receive power and riches
and wisdom and strength
    and honor and glory and blessing.”
[13]And then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea. They sang:
“Blessing and honor and glory and power
    belong to the one sitting on the throne
    and to the Lamb forever and ever.”
[14]And the four living beings said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and WORSHIPPED the LAMB.

Janosky:
Mark 12:29-30
"Yeshua said to him, "The first of all the commandments: 'Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.' " 30"'And you shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God with your whole heart and with your entire soul and with your entire mind and with all your power.' This is the first commandment"
Mark 12:29-30 plus Matt 4:10
Yeshua said The Lord Jehovah your God is One, WORSHIP Lord Jehovah ALONE"

This instruction is for those who love & WORSHIP their God Jehovah ALONE.

I won't disobey Jesus instructions his God taught him.

But it's God himself that now announce that everything in heaven and on earth excluding the Father should worship him (Jesus).
Jesus denied himself worship on earth because he has a mission and he will not be distracted same.way he said nobody should call him GOOD but only the father. Does that mean Jesus is not good?

olayinka63:
How is it the most expensive? Why would the writer stops the list at 9? What about 10th.....

You seem to be the only person with sense here. There are over 130 nations in the world and this guy gave best nine and still claiming that number 9 is the worst out of 130.
It's just like your child came third in a class of 60 and the teacher said her result is the worst.

No Be Juju Be Dat?

Janosky:
God his Father taught Jesus @ Deut 6:13 & Matt 4:10 (quoted by Jesus) "Worship Jehovah Yahweh ALONE".

Meaning "Do NOT worship 2 persons, Jesus & Yahweh.
Worship YAHWEH ALONE, simple instruction.
Paul a Jew already knows that Obeisance/ homage is the proper meaning @ Hebrew 1:6.
Catholic new Jerusalem Bible evidence.
Pope say nah homage not worship.

So I should listen to the Pope or Catholic abi? I what capacity will the Pope be acting on? As my God or as the scriptures.
Worship is worship, nothing like Obeisance except you want to use it as synonyms.
IT IS VISIBLE TO THE BLING THAT THE SAME HEBREW WORD WAS USED IN BOTH INSTANCES WHICH SHOWS SAME MEANING AND WEIGHT. IF YOU LIKE USE ANY SYNONYM TO DIFFERENTIATE THEM, NA YOUR WAHALA BE THAT. ALL THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH WERE INSTRUCTED TO WORSHIP HIM. HE ENJOYS THAT PRIVILEGE BECAUSE GOD, HIS FATHER, SAID SO. THAT DOESN'T PUT HIM OVER THE FATHER. THAT JUST PUT HIM OVER EVERY OTHER THING IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH.

NO BE JUJU BE DAT?

I am 100% in support of Tinubu and the Tax law BUT those who were involved in the forgery should be sent to prison ASAP.

NO BE JUJU BE DAT?

aariwa:
What is this one saying? Abi Idi amin, hitler , Bokassa, papa doc and other disgraced leaders like them not in history books of their country ? Any one can be in history books good or bad but still doesn’t change the fact that tinubu is a illegitimate mandate thief that would soon be removed

You no get EVIDENCE.
You go EXPLAIN TIRE.
No Be you go write History na.
We know what Ojukwu is remembered for in History. We know what Awolowo is remembered for in History. Irrespective of how some people want to remember these two people in their own different ways, we know what HISTORY itself wrong about them.
Once again, NO BE YOU AND YOUR LIKES GO WRITE TINUBU HISTORY.

No Be Juju Be Dat?

[quote author=zoomzoom post=138021179][/quote]Who in the world remember backgrounds? People have risen over the years from slavery to legends. People remember achievements and records.
TINUBU will be remembered and buried as a former senator and President. Obi will be remembered as a former governor and a presidential LOSER.

NO BE JUJU BE DAT?

aariwa:
Did illegitimate mandate thief ever win any elections?

But your so called illegitimate thief is the President of Nigeria and his name will be in the history book as one. But the person you said won in your brain will not be remembered for anything. How can a supposed winner of an election be negotiating to be the Vice of a loser in that election? Even Kwankwaso can't stoop that low.
A WINNER WANNA BEG TO BE DEPUTY OF A LOSER.

NO BE JUJU BE DAT?

saintokwuluora:
Kagame seating at the head of the table shows Tinubu visited him in Paris. Baba is doing baabiala in Europe to be saved from Trump.

How did you know the head of the table?
You are wrong.
TINUBU is the one at home and the person who visited was Kegame. TINUBU was sitting at the head of the table.
Even from the clothes they wore, Kegame was on suit while TINUBU was wearing a casual ware.

No Be Juju Be Dat?

Chai...so Obi after 2027 or 2026 November election will now be remembered as "Former VICE Presidential Candidate of the ADC." No longer Former Presidential Candidate.

Na big downgrading be that ooo. E even better to no even contest again to maintain his honor and the clout chasing of a supposed winner in the last election. At least he will be celebrated as putting up a good show just like Abiola today. But to be finally remembered as Former VICE Presidential Candidate who failed in 2027? That is bad.

No Be Juju Be Dat?

jmoore:
Stop shouting?

What makes it fake?

Was a police station burnt or not?

Where the culprits armed with gun or not?


Which one is youth vs police? The youths used broom abi?

First question, are you at the location? Because I am at the location and I know all the details 100%.
YOU ARE NOT PRIVY TO THE ISSUE, SO YOU CANNOT JUDGE THE CASE.
To answer your question:
1. The youth were not armed with guns.
2. The youth set the station on fire.

To why the news was fake.
1. There was no gunmen.
2. The identity of the youths are known.
3. It is not a terrorists attack.

Does that answer your question?

No Be Juju Be Dat?

THIS IS FAKE NEWS

ITS YOUTHS VERSUS POLICE

NO GUNMEN

buzmanjohn:
https://dailypost.ng/2026/01/01/gunmen-attack-burn-down-police-station-in-ondo-community/

THIS IS FAKE NEWS

ITS YOUTHS VERSUS POLICE

NO GUNMEN

buzmanjohn:
https://dailypost.ng/2026/01/01/gunmen-attack-burn-down-police-station-in-ondo-community/

This is FAKE NEWS.
Gunmen never attacked Owo (Ipele area) which is my hometown here.
The youths had issues with the police and it escalated. SIMPLE.
NO GUNMEN OOOO, DAILY TRUST.
ITS THE YOUTHS VERSUS POLICE THAT WENT SOUTH.

NO BE JUJU BE DAT?

Kukutente23:
It's obvious you're just rambling about

Show evidence Oga.