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2go and the likes technically use airtime as payment. And they have been doing that for ages

javalady:
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But one is free to request for someone to help him monetize airtime. Without necessarily paying for some thing

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Go watch the video, Ojukwu did not eat that food.

Things are really not moving well in this country. All fingers point to the man at the helm but I'll resist the temptation of attacking him for at least 1yr....
Nice one OP, He urgently needs to step things up

enigmaotr:
The name saints belongs equally to the living and the dead; yea, in the mention of the dead, the determining clause is added, “who had slept.” And these saints are reckoned such, not by human, but Divine Canon. Of the Saints, who had died either a long while before the birth of Christ, or not much after, from all tribes no doubt.
The Bible has quite a bit to say about Mary and you can read this for yourself in the gospels, especially in Luke 1-3 and some in Matthew 1-3. But Scripture does not affirm what is believed about Mary by the Catholic church. She is not the mother of God, only the mother of the humanity of Christ. Mary is not a mediator between God and man, only Jesus is the mediator between God and man. “For there is one God,and one mediator also between God and men,the man Christ Jesus” ( 1 Tim. 2:5).
In Luke 1:28, she is called “favored one” (literally, “endowed or filled with grace”) but only in the sense that God, by grace chose her to be the human mother who would give birth to the Christ child. This same idea and word is used of all believers in Ephesians 1:6. To say any more than this is to add to what the text says and this is what Catholicism has done.

please, the name "Saints" does not equally belong to the dead. A saint is someone that lived a life of exceptional Holiness while on earth.
Also, The Church neva said that Mary is the mediator between God and man. weneva we pray to Mary, we pray to her to as a mediator between man and Jesus Christ... Pple tend to misquote the Church because Jesus is God.
Jesus is the only mediator between man and God but we can as well go to Jesus Christ through Mary.

enigmaotr:
Whoever made you believe, dead people are in heaven, I don't know, but the Bible makes us understand that dead people are still in their graves. The prayers of the saints as stated in that verse is not about that of the dead, the holy people.
And Mary can not intercede for you. It is only Jesus who has paid that price who. He is the only High Priest who is pleading our case in the Heavenly Temple with by virtue of the blood he shed in Calvary. You'll be sorry you pray to Mary at the Judgement Day. The Scripture is clear on this.

Get the differences and similarities between Grave, Paradise, Heaven, New Heaven. Hell, shoel etc.
KJV Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Also take a look at Rev 6: 9-11. Some Bible translations replace the word 'saints' with 'Holy one', That's left for historians to argue but it's very clear the the word 'holy one' or 'saint' is not referred humans still living, rather it's referring to pple that lived their life righteously while on earth.
The Bible also made it clear that "the prayers of the righteous availeth much", Although it is referring to a righteous living being in this context, common sense should tell u that if saints can offer prayers to Jesus (as explained in Rev 8:4), what stops them from making prayers on ur behalf when u call on dem

godsveryown:
didn't d bible warn against invoking d dead? Do u pray to ur pastor to intercede 4 u? Are u aware dat nobody goes to d fada except tru Jesus christ?why don't u ask moses or even david to pray 4 u?or devote a rosary session asking dem to pray 4 u?my dear all no b intercession o if not jesus wuld hav told us to pray either tru her or him to God

I hope this answer ur question if u are really open hearted.And not here just to win arguments.
Revelation 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
The church believes that Mary is in heaven same way they believe that Peter, Paul, Mathew etc are in heaven.
So, we do pray to Mary and Saints to intercede for us but in no way denigrating the supremacy of Jesus Christ's mediatorship. That's why when we say:
Holy Mary -- pray for us
Saints -- pray for us
But When call Jesus Christ, we say "have mercy on us".
It might also interest u to knw that we pray to Mary/Saints to pray for us, to God through Jesus Christ... That is:
Man --> Mary/Saints --> Jesus Christ --> Almighty God.
Of course u know that Jesus Christ is God.
That is it, In as much as u are free to believe what u want to believe, U will be doing too much by criticizing others.
I await ur questions, if any

Summary:
Catholics fighting hard to convert non Christians to Christianity while Protestants fighting real hard to convert Catholics to Protestants.

who is deceiving who?

Summary:
Catholics fighting hard to convert non Christians to Christianity while Protestants fighting real hard to convert Catholics to Protestants.

who is deceiving who?

sheunfemix:
There is just too much dirt associated with the Catholic church. A church that embraces same sex marriage, why on earth should u want to continue in their doctrine. The church that has so much of satanic stories attached to it should be totally ignored. Darkness has nothing to do with light they are entirely separate. And until we christians come together as one in union our churches will not grow. Ever wondered why the muslims are growing so vast? They have a certain oneness that christians lack and if we don't open our hearts to the truth and follow Christ as a perfect example, not our Pastors or Bishops but Christ the muslims will constantly be a thorn in our flesh. Go directly to Christ, He tore the veil already leaving a clear path

please. who told u that Catholics accept same sex marriage? and what are dirty things associated to the Church?
If any denomination is to blame for disunity in Christianity, it's the Protestant Churches that decided to break away from the catholic Church. Catholic has always been there since inception of Christianity.

SalC:
Sorry but your definition of a believer here is actually the definition of a saint, To be sanctified in Christ is to be made Holy, observe the words "Saint and Sanctify" and you don't even need a dictionary to know they are synonymous, you can look up. Heb 12:23 and see that people are made "perfect" (sanctified) by Christ, and mind you there are far more saints than those canonised and that's why we have the".

well, let's not argue that but whichever way u look at it, your earlier statement that prompted me to respond is wrong. just wana correct that notion. You said that:
"1 Cor 1:1-2 implies that all believers are saints"
but that's not actually what the verse said as
1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
the Bible didn't use the word believers, u invented that one yourself thereby u are of the opinion that those sanctified in Christ Jesus are believers "according to the verse" (of which I equally agree). But the same verse does not state or imply that they are saints.
Ofcourse, There are many other saints that are not canonized or celebrated by the church but that's only because of absent of proof. The Church can only canonized the ones they've verified that's why I said only God knows that lived a life of extraordinary Holiness.
My singular response still remains that all believers are not saints

It's one thing to believe in what u believe but it's entirely another thing to abuse or castigate others. It either shows an act of desperation or Jealousy or both. You hardly see a Catholic priest criticize another denomination yet must pastors in other denomination will be comfortable enough to preach against Catholicism for the whole sermon.
If only some of us knew how long and the difficulties the Catholic Church had before it came to a conclusion that the Blessed mother must b revered, your arguments would have been different.
In as much as I don't agree with u, I completely respect your opinion. someone even said Catholic is Antichrist, I don't knw his reason but with such ability to knw the denomination that is Antichrist, He can as well b able to look u in the face and tell u if u are going to heaven or not.

It's one thing to believe in what u believe but it's entirely another thing to abuse or castigate others. It either shows an act of desperation or Jealousy or both. You hardly see a Catholic priest criticize another denomination yet must pastors in other denomination will be comfortable enough to preach against Catholicism for the whole sermon.
If only some of us knew how long and the difficulties the Catholic Church had before it came to a conclusion that the Blessed mother must b revered, your arguments would have been different.
In as much as I don't agree with u, I completely respect your opinion. someone even said Catholic is Antichrist, I don't knw his reason but with such ability to knw the denomination that is Antichrist, He can as well b able to look u in the face and tell u if u are going to heaven or not.
When Catholics say that all that happ

SalC:
Who is a believer? I don't mean by lip service but a true believer and what prevents a believer who is sanctified from being a saint?

Get the definitions right Salc. A believer is anyone that is sanctified in Christ Jesus while a Saint someone that lived a life of exceptional Holiness.
So, common knowledge should tell u that not all believers are saints. the next question is:
How do u know if someone lived a life of exceptional Holiness?
That IMO is only left for God to judge. The Catholic Church however examine the life of some Christians who lived exceptional lives or did extraordinary things through the power of the Lord and canonize them as Saints. Some of these saints have some or most part of their body incorrupt after several months or years of there death Which is a clear sign that there's something extraordinary about it.
so dear, that u are sanctified in Christ Jesus doesn't automatically make u a saint.

The argument on whether Blessed Mary has other children or not will neva cease, Even the 4th century theologians had different opinions on that.
However, One thing is pristine clear, SHE MUST BE REVERED as it's stated that "all generations shall call her blessed" and the fact our Lord Jesus did a miracle even when it wasn't time shows how important her intercession can be.
From "Revelation 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand" we understand that the prayers of the saints reaches d Almighty God, How about the prayer the Blessed Mother "full of grace"? Immaculate conception has happened once in this life, why was she the choice?
Whether she later had more children will not take away her honour.
A practical example has always been given that "Sometimes it's easier to beg the mother of someone you've offended to help u talk to her son than go to the person directly"
We pray to God through Jesus Christ but we can also call on the Blessed mother to intercede between us and her son Jesus Christ. What happened in Fatima, 1917 was no fluke.
It's my opinion anyway...

SalC:
And who told you who is a believer, am surprised you don't know every believer is a saint. Read 1 cor 1:1-2

SalC:
And who told you who is a believer, am surprised you don't know every believer is a saint. Read 1 cor 1:1-2

please, let's not misinterpret things. KJV says in
1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, CALLED TO BE SAINTS, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
The word, "to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints" doesn't mean that every believer is a saint. A better interpretation is that all saints are believers but surely all believers are not saints.

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